OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread John Coyle
My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
would love to meet up
with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.

If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
New York, 13-19 October
Boston 21-23 October
New Orleans 26-28 October
St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
Chicago 3-4 November
Los Angeles 7-8 November
San Francisco 10-11 November

I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate the 
number when I arrive
to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
me for preliminaries.
We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
States before, and we've
decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
experience!


John in Brisbane




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Re: Hammer of the Gods

2016-08-27 Thread David Mann
On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Mark C  wrote:

> A shot of the building and a close up of the damage. Based on the debris on 
> the sidewalk below, its a good thing that no one was standing outside the 
> building when it was hit.
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/lightning-struck?blog=9

I've seen the damage that brick parapets can do to a footpath, even after going 
through a rigid awning.  Definitely not something you want to be under.

The people in that plane would have been safe but the thunder might have caused 
a few trouser accidents.

Cheers,
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Re: Peso-Gray Heron (one more)

2016-08-27 Thread David Mann
On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Does look almost identicalto the Grey Heron  -Ardea cinerea-  but the latter 
> is a European and Asian variety and the Great Blue isthe North American guy
> 
> can't help myself :-)

The other day when I told my wife she was technically correct about something, 
she quoted Futurama... "technically correct, the best kind of correct."

Cheers,
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Re: OT: Barry Lyndon

2016-08-27 Thread ann sanfedele
Perhaps, and perhaps not.  Richard was pushing 60 and I was in my 40's 
when we walked out of the theatre :-)


ann


On 8/27/2016 11:29 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I made the incredibly dumb move of taking a date to see BL during its
debut release. I was young and really awkward at dating (typical
engineering nerd) and I'm fairly sure that that action sealed my fate.
Never heard from that girl again.

I actually do want to see Barry Lyndon again because I'm certain that
my older, reinvented brain would appreciate what my barely out of
adolescence brain could not.


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Well my mind and my companion's mind wandered when we saw it back in the
early 80's in a theatre Ithink Richard was slightly more antsy than I
was,

but we walked out after about 30 minutes... maybe 45, but no more.

Thanks, I'll take Dr. Strangelove and Paths of Glory...

ann




On 8/26/2016 3:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

That was pretty much the view of a lot of the critics at the time it came
out, but re-looking at it they're changing their minds.

Either way, Kubrick was a genius.

I've watched it bit-by-bit before on the small screen, but often find my
mind wandering when I'm watching anything on TV, but in the cinema I was
transfixed from the word go.

B


On 26 Aug 2016, at 14:50, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

I'm a big Kubrick fan, but found BL boring.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Bob W-PDML 
wrote:

Kubrick's Barry Lyndon was recently re-released, so yesterday I watched
it
on the big screen for the first time. Wow. If it comes to a cinema near
you, don't miss the opportunity to be ravished.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jul/31/barry-lyndon-
review-stanley-kubrick

Famous for its use of a 50/0.7 and a 35/0.7 lens, shot in natural light,
composition based on 18th-century paintings, great acting, great story,
great everything.

B
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Re: PESO 2016 - 173 - GDG

2016-08-27 Thread ann sanfedele

Ditto- love it..

ann


On 8/27/2016 5:58 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 26/8/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


One of my favorite stops in Yerba Buena Park is the Martin Luther King
Memorial. Unusually, this time there was only one other person there,
doing what so many do to help remember the words on the plaques...

  https://flic.kr/p/Lpwu2U

Excellent!




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Re: Peso-Gray Heron (one more)

2016-08-27 Thread mike wilson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurama


> On 27 August 2016 at 15:52 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's a girl thing :-) what is Futurama?
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 8/27/2016 2:05 AM, David Mann wrote:
> > On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> >> Does look almost identicalto the Grey Heron  -Ardea cinerea-  but the
> >> latter is a European and Asian variety and the Great Blue isthe North
> >> American guy
> >>
> >> can't help myself :-)
> > The other day when I told my wife she was technically correct about
> > something, she quoted Futurama... "technically correct, the best kind of
> > correct."
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave

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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread ann sanfedele

John - ooh ooh NYC PDML  !

Most defininitely would love to meet up, have you up for a cuppa Chez 
Ashley, etc..


will write off list

ann


On 8/27/2016 3:15 AM, John Coyle wrote:

My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
would love to meet up
with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.

If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
New York, 13-19 October
Boston 21-23 October
New Orleans 26-28 October
St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
Chicago 3-4 November
Los Angeles 7-8 November
San Francisco 10-11 November

I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate the 
number when I arrive
to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
me for preliminaries.
We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
States before, and we've
decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
experience!


John in Brisbane







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Re: Peso-Gray Heron (one more)

2016-08-27 Thread ann sanfedele

It's a girl thing :-) what is Futurama?

ann


On 8/27/2016 2:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Does look almost identicalto the Grey Heron  -Ardea cinerea-  but the latter is 
a European and Asian variety and the Great Blue isthe North American guy

can't help myself :-)

The other day when I told my wife she was technically correct about something, she quoted 
Futurama... "technically correct, the best kind of correct."

Cheers,
Dave





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Re: OT: Barry Lyndon

2016-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
I made the incredibly dumb move of taking a date to see BL during its
debut release. I was young and really awkward at dating (typical
engineering nerd) and I'm fairly sure that that action sealed my fate.
Never heard from that girl again.

I actually do want to see Barry Lyndon again because I'm certain that
my older, reinvented brain would appreciate what my barely out of
adolescence brain could not.


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Well my mind and my companion's mind wandered when we saw it back in the
> early 80's in a theatre Ithink Richard was slightly more antsy than I
> was,
>
> but we walked out after about 30 minutes... maybe 45, but no more.
>
> Thanks, I'll take Dr. Strangelove and Paths of Glory...
>
> ann
>
>
>
>
> On 8/26/2016 3:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>
>> That was pretty much the view of a lot of the critics at the time it came
>> out, but re-looking at it they're changing their minds.
>>
>> Either way, Kubrick was a genius.
>>
>> I've watched it bit-by-bit before on the small screen, but often find my
>> mind wandering when I'm watching anything on TV, but in the cinema I was
>> transfixed from the word go.
>>
>> B
>>
>>> On 26 Aug 2016, at 14:50, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm a big Kubrick fan, but found BL boring.
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Bob W-PDML 
 wrote:

 Kubrick's Barry Lyndon was recently re-released, so yesterday I watched
 it
 on the big screen for the first time. Wow. If it comes to a cinema near
 you, don't miss the opportunity to be ravished.

 https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jul/31/barry-lyndon-
 review-stanley-kubrick

 Famous for its use of a 50/0.7 and a 35/0.7 lens, shot in natural light,
 composition based on 18th-century paintings, great acting, great story,
 great everything.

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Re: Astronomic field report

2016-08-27 Thread Alan C

Jostein

Once the equatorial mount is motorised & aligned correctly, do you intend to 
use a camera body to collect images through the telescope or will you 
replace the telescope with a camera & lens?


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Jostein

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:42 PM
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Subject: Astronomic field report

Skies are getting darker here now, so finally I got a good chance to try
out my semi-DIY motorisation of the telescope mount for the Pentax 75 EDHF.

At the moment I can produce reasonably sharp images at a 30s exposure.
The focal length of the telescope is about 500 mm, so this exceeds the
controlling capability of the Astrotrace function in the K-5 + O-GPS1
combo. That's got to be a milestone.

The current limits to accuracy are accurate polar alignment and accurate
focus. The believe the latter can be improved by lubrication of the
mechanism, and the former by reading up on the subject. :-)

No PESOs yet, but here's a picture of the mount here (Google images,
shortened link): http://turl.no/15lv

Substitute the clump of metal mounted to the same axle as the knob with
the Pentax logo for my own setup, and you get the idea.


Jostein



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Re: OT: Barry Lyndon

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Thanks, I'll take Dr. Strangelove and Paths of Glory...


I agree!  Fathom is re-releasing Dr Strangelove in selected theaters in a
limited big screen version.


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Re: PESO 2016 - 172 - GDG

2016-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/8/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>On Wednesday, I went to San Francisco for a visit to the re-imagined SF
>Museum Of Modern Art. 
>
>  https://flic.kr/p/KBdL7d

I missed this on the OP - exquisite shot!

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Astronomic field report

2016-08-27 Thread Jostein
Skies are getting darker here now, so finally I got a good chance to try 
out my semi-DIY motorisation of the telescope mount for the Pentax 75 EDHF.


At the moment I can produce reasonably sharp images at a 30s exposure. 
The focal length of the telescope is about 500 mm, so this exceeds the 
controlling capability of the Astrotrace function in the K-5 + O-GPS1 
combo. That's got to be a milestone.


The current limits to accuracy are accurate polar alignment and accurate 
focus. The believe the latter can be improved by lubrication of the 
mechanism, and the former by reading up on the subject. :-)


No PESOs yet, but here's a picture of the mount here (Google images, 
shortened link): http://turl.no/15lv


Substitute the clump of metal mounted to the same axle as the knob with 
the Pentax logo for my own setup, and you get the idea.



Jostein



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Re: PESO 2016 - 173 - GDG

2016-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/8/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>One of my favorite stops in Yerba Buena Park is the Martin Luther King
>Memorial. Unusually, this time there was only one other person there,
>doing what so many do to help remember the words on the plaques...
>
>  https://flic.kr/p/Lpwu2U

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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Welcome, Hope you enjoy!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:15 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
> would love to meet up
> with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.
> 
> If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
> New York, 13-19 October
> Boston 21-23 October
> New Orleans 26-28 October
> St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
> Chicago 3-4 November
> Los Angeles 7-8 November
> San Francisco 10-11 November
> 
> I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate 
> the number when I arrive
> to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
> jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
> me for preliminaries.
> We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
> States before, and we've
> decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
> experience!
> 
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I am about an hour west of the City, and would love to meet up while you
are in New York.

Dan

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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 3:15 AM, John Coyle  wrote:

> My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA,
> and would love to meet up
> with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.
>
> If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
> New York, 13-19 October
> Boston 21-23 October
> New Orleans 26-28 October
> St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
> Chicago 3-4 November
> Los Angeles 7-8 November
> San Francisco 10-11 November
>
> I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate
> the number when I arrive
> to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address
> jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
> me for preliminaries.
> We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to
> the States before, and we've
> decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a
> great experience!
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
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Re: PESO 2016 - 172 - GDG

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice.

Paul via phone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 26/8/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> On Wednesday, I went to San Francisco for a visit to the re-imagined SF
>> Museum Of Modern Art. 
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/KBdL7d
> 
> I missed this on the OP - exquisite shot!
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
> 
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Re: Peso-Gray Heron (one more)

2016-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dave! 
"Technically correct" is now my new 
standard. :)
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:05 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Does look almost identicalto the Grey Heron  -Ardea cinerea-  but the latter 
>> is a European and Asian variety and the Great Blue isthe North American guy
>> 
>> can't help myself :-)
> 
> The other day when I told my wife she was technically correct about 
> something, she quoted Futurama... "technically correct, the best kind of 
> correct."
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
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Re: OT: Some photo ops this weekend:

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:13 PM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:

> Sadly it's always the ones you don't want to see topless who are...
>

Boy, isn't that the case.  The last time I stumble onto a clothing optional
beach in the Caribbean, as to both genders, the ore unsightly, the less
clothing.

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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
John Coyle wrote:

>My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
>would love to meet up
>with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.
>
>If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
>New York, 13-19 October
>Boston 21-23 October

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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Larry Colen



John Coyle wrote:

My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
would love to meet up
with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.


I'm about an hour and a half south of San Francisco, could head up 
there, or you could come visit here with redwoods, beach etc.




If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
New York, 13-19 October
Boston 21-23 October
New Orleans 26-28 October
St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
Chicago 3-4 November
Los Angeles 7-8 November
San Francisco 10-11 November

I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate the 
number when I arrive
to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
me for preliminaries.
We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
States before, and we've
decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
experience!


John in Brisbane






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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
Would welcome you to Chicago when you get here.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:15 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
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> would love to meet up
> with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.
>
> If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
> New York, 13-19 October
> Boston 21-23 October
> New Orleans 26-28 October
> St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
> Chicago 3-4 November
> Los Angeles 7-8 November
> San Francisco 10-11 November
>
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> the number when I arrive
> to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
> jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
> me for preliminaries.
> We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
> States before, and we've
> decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
> experience!
>
>
> John in Brisbane
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Re: Astronomic field report

2016-08-27 Thread Jostein Øksne
A bit of both, I suspect.
It's mostly a technical adventure at the moment, so trying out what's within 
grasp is very much a part of it.
Jostein 

Den 27. august 2016 18.11.33 CEST, skrev Alan C :
>Jostein
>
>Once the equatorial mount is motorised & aligned correctly, do you
>intend to 
>use a camera body to collect images through the telescope or will you 
>replace the telescope with a camera & lens?
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: Jostein
>Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:42 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Astronomic field report
>
>Skies are getting darker here now, so finally I got a good chance to
>try
>out my semi-DIY motorisation of the telescope mount for the Pentax 75
>EDHF.
>
>At the moment I can produce reasonably sharp images at a 30s exposure.
>The focal length of the telescope is about 500 mm, so this exceeds the
>controlling capability of the Astrotrace function in the K-5 + O-GPS1
>combo. That's got to be a milestone.
>
>The current limits to accuracy are accurate polar alignment and
>accurate
>focus. The believe the latter can be improved by lubrication of the
>mechanism, and the former by reading up on the subject. :-)
>
>No PESOs yet, but here's a picture of the mount here (Google images,
>shortened link): http://turl.no/15lv
>
>Substitute the clump of metal mounted to the same axle as the knob with
>the Pentax logo for my own setup, and you get the idea.
>
>
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Re: Peso-Gray Heron (one more)

2016-08-27 Thread ann sanfedele

No wonder I didn't know what it was...  :-)

ann


On 8/27/2016 1:20 PM, mike wilson wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurama



On 27 August 2016 at 15:52 ann sanfedele  wrote:


It's a girl thing :-) what is Futurama?

ann


On 8/27/2016 2:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Does look almost identicalto the Grey Heron  -Ardea cinerea-  but the
latter is a European and Asian variety and the Great Blue isthe North
American guy

can't help myself :-)

The other day when I told my wife she was technically correct about
something, she quoted Futurama... "technically correct, the best kind of
correct."

Cheers,
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RE: Hammer of the Gods

2016-08-27 Thread Larry Colen


On August 26, 2016 10:17:06 PM PDT, John Coyle  wrote:
>What a load of bollocks the art-speak was!

Stuff like that is one of the reasons that I don't consider myself an artist. 
I'll leave any other reasons as an exercise for the reader.

>
>John in Brisbane
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W-PDML
>Sent: Saturday, 27 August 2016 07:22
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: Hammer of the Gods
>
>Here in London we pay good money for that sort of damage.
>
>http://www.contemporaryartsociety.org/news/lse-unveils-new-richard-wilson-sculpture-square-the-block
>/
>
>B
>
>> On 26 Aug 2016, at 21:39, Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan's recent post reminded me of this - the school building behind my
>house was hit by lightning
>during a storm about a month ago. Less than 100 yards away I was
>working on the PC, thankfully
>nothing got fried.
>> 
>> A shot of the building and a close up of the damage. Based on the
>debris on the sidewalk below,
>its a good thing that no one was standing outside the building when it
>was hit.
>> 
>>
>http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/lightning-struck?blog=9
>> 
>> Top shot was taken with K3 and DA 17-70 f4. Second shot was taken
>with K3 and Tokina ATX 400 f5.6.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Christine Aguila
What Bob S. said.  Let us know when you get here—here being Chicago!  Cheers, 
Christine


> On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> John,
> Would welcome you to Chicago when you get here.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:15 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
>> My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
>> would love to meet up
>> with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.
>> 
>> If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
>> New York, 13-19 October
>> Boston 21-23 October
>> New Orleans 26-28 October
>> St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
>> Chicago 3-4 November
>> Los Angeles 7-8 November
>> San Francisco 10-11 November
>> 
>> I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate 
>> the number when I arrive
>> to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
>> jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
>> me for preliminaries.
>> We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
>> States before, and we've
>> decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
>> experience!
>> 
>> 
>> John in Brisbane
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Paul

Sounds like a plan!

Bob & Christine - If there's a way to meet in one of the North 'burbs 
(Schaumburg, Addison, etc) I could make my way down from Milwaukee.


-p

On 8/27/2016 1:42 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

John,
Would welcome you to Chicago when you get here.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:15 AM, John Coyle  wrote:

My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
would love to meet up
with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.

If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
New York, 13-19 October
Boston 21-23 October
New Orleans 26-28 October
St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
Chicago 3-4 November
Los Angeles 7-8 November
San Francisco 10-11 November

I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate the 
number when I arrive
to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
me for preliminaries.
We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
States before, and we've
decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
experience!


John in Brisbane




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Re: OT: Coming to the USA

2016-08-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Sounds cool to me.  It’s mainly up to John and his wife though.  We don’t know 
what their plans are when they come to Chicago.  Cheers, Christine


> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Paul  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a plan!
> 
> Bob & Christine - If there's a way to meet in one of the North 'burbs 
> (Schaumburg, Addison, etc) I could make my way down from Milwaukee.
> 
> -p
> 
> On 8/27/2016 1:42 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> John,
>> Would welcome you to Chicago when you get here.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:15 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
>>> My wife and I are in the final stages of organising a month in the USA, and 
>>> would love to meet up
>>> with any PDML-ers for coffee, lunch (or even dinner!) at any of our stops.
>>> 
>>> If anyone would like to meet up, our itinerary includes:
>>> New York, 13-19 October
>>> Boston 21-23 October
>>> New Orleans 26-28 October
>>> St. Louis 31 October - 1st. November
>>> Chicago 3-4 November
>>> Los Angeles 7-8 November
>>> San Francisco 10-11 November
>>> 
>>> I'm planning to get a pre-paid cell phone for the trip, and will circulate 
>>> the number when I arrive
>>> to any respondents, for last minute details, but this email address 
>>> jco...@iinet.net.au  will reach
>>> me for preliminaries.
>>> We're very much looking forward to this trip, neither of us has been to the 
>>> States before, and we've
>>> decided to use Amtrak for all our intercity travel, which should be a great 
>>> experience!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John in Brisbane
>>> 
>>> 
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OT- blurb.com Adobe InDesign plug-in with Lightroom Creative Cloud question

2016-08-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi All:

Has anyone used the blurb.com Adobe InDesign Plug-in with Lightroom Creative 
Cloud?  Any comments, complaints et al?

I’ve recently became a creative cloud user on my Mac laptop.  I used Adobe 
InDesign to layout our school literary journal this summer, so I have InDesign 
skills—well, developing skills :-)—though laying out the journal was a lot of 
fun—fun to learn some new software skills.

I’m seriously interested in downloading the blurb.com Adobe InDesign plug-in 
for Lightroom CC, but if it’s crap and not worth it, I’d rather not, of course.

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Re: OT PESO - Red Sky in the Morning...

2016-08-27 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks for taking a look, Ann.  


Cheers

Brian

++
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> ditto!
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 8/25/2016 11:51 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> > Gorgeous!
> >
> >   Marco
> >
> >> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> >>
> >> G'day all
> >>
> >> Back in May, we had just arrived in Melbourne (off the vehicular ferry
> >> from Tasmania) as dawn was breaking and Melbourne put on this brief, but
> >> spectacular, display for us.
> >>
> >> I just had time to pull over and grab this shot in (I think) Bay Street.
> >>
> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGO4941-EM10-1-peso.html
> >>
> >> (OT because it was shot with the Olympus E-M10)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> ++
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PESO: Capital Bikeshare

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
DC in the Summer

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244517=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

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Re: OT PESO - Red Sky in the Morning...

2016-08-27 Thread Larry Colen



Brian Walters wrote:

Thanks for taking a look, Ann.


Very nice. Lots of punch!




Cheers

Brian

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On Sat, Aug 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

ditto!

ann


On 8/25/2016 11:51 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Gorgeous!

   Marco


On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

G'day all

Back in May, we had just arrived in Melbourne (off the vehicular ferry
from Tasmania) as dawn was breaking and Melbourne put on this brief, but
spectacular, display for us.

I just had time to pull over and grab this shot in (I think) Bay Street.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGO4941-EM10-1-peso.html

(OT because it was shot with the Olympus E-M10)



Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT- blurb.com Adobe InDesign plug-in with Lightroom Creative Cloud question

2016-08-27 Thread Bill

On 8/27/2016 1:50 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi All:

Has anyone used the blurb.com Adobe InDesign Plug-in with Lightroom
Creative Cloud?  Any comments, complaints et al?

I’ve recently became a creative cloud user on my Mac laptop.  I used
Adobe InDesign to layout our school literary journal this summer, so
I have InDesign skills—well, developing skills :-)—though laying out
the journal was a lot of fun—fun to learn some new software skills.

I’m seriously interested in downloading the blurb.com Adobe InDesign
plug-in for Lightroom CC, but if it’s crap and not worth it, I’d
rather not, of course.

Cheers, Christine



I've use the Blub plug in that is installed with Lightroom. It seems to 
work well enough.


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Re: OT- blurb.com Adobe InDesign plug-in with Lightroom Creative Cloud question

2016-08-27 Thread Larry Colen



Bill wrote:

On 8/27/2016 1:50 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi All:

Has anyone used the blurb.com Adobe InDesign Plug-in with Lightroom
Creative Cloud? Any comments, complaints et al?

I’ve recently became a creative cloud user on my Mac laptop. I used
Adobe InDesign to layout our school literary journal this summer, so
I have InDesign skills—well, developing skills :-)—though laying out
the journal was a lot of fun—fun to learn some new software skills.

I’m seriously interested in downloading the blurb.com Adobe InDesign
plug-in for Lightroom CC, but if it’s crap and not worth it, I’d
rather not, of course.

Cheers, Christine



I've use the Blub plug in that is installed with Lightroom. It seems to
work well enough.


Likewise.  Not as fancy or versatile as inDesign, but lots easier to 
use, and much better interface with lightroom than the generic blurb tool.






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Re: Peso-Gray Heron (one more)

2016-08-27 Thread P.J. Alling

Mat Groening is a very strange man.

On 8/27/2016 4:33 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

No wonder I didn't know what it was...  :-)

ann


On 8/27/2016 1:20 PM, mike wilson wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurama



On 27 August 2016 at 15:52 ann sanfedele  wrote:


It's a girl thing :-) what is Futurama?

ann


On 8/27/2016 2:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Does look almost identicalto the Grey Heron  -Ardea cinerea-  but the
latter is a European and Asian variety and the Great Blue isthe North
American guy

can't help myself :-)

The other day when I told my wife she was technically correct about
something, she quoted Futurama... "technically correct, the best 
kind of

correct."

Cheers,
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Re: OT PESO - Red Sky in the Morning...

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautifu! The urban setting makes it special.

Paul via phone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for taking a look, Ann.  
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> ditto!
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/25/2016 11:51 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>> Gorgeous!
>>> 
>>>  Marco
>>> 
 On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
 
 G'day all
 
 Back in May, we had just arrived in Melbourne (off the vehicular ferry
 from Tasmania) as dawn was breaking and Melbourne put on this brief, but
 spectacular, display for us.
 
 I just had time to pull over and grab this shot in (I think) Bay Street.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGO4941-EM10-1-peso.html
 
 (OT because it was shot with the Olympus E-M10)
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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