Re: If you left Pentax, what Scurvy Dawg system would you invite into your life?

2002-12-13 Thread MPozzi
Firstly Nikon, then Canon --- Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd go Olympus, or mebbe Nikon. This thread should flare on for a while. -Lon __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Alin Flaider
Pål wrote: PJ I'm not so shocked by this real possibility at all. After all, the PJ 35mm format doesn't make much sense for digital. Older lenses can PJ still be used whereas newere digital only lenses could be made PJ better, cheaper and smaller. I don't feel that moving to a lower

Stupid ad and funny

2002-12-13 Thread Brad Dobo
http://www.epinions.com/Pentax_SMCP_A_400mm_f_5_6_Telephoto_Lens__Lens_24570 /display_~full_specs The SMCP-A 400mm f/5.6 telephoto lens is power zoom and auto focus. It can be manually focused and zoomed on all Pentax bayonet camera bodies. With 6.2 degree viewing angle, it provides all program

KMP Update, updated FS list

2002-12-13 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi all, I have just uploaded the next KMP release. You will find mostly small corrections and additions to the Lenses and Teleconverters pages, and some major changes in the Bodies section. Now there is an individual page for each camera body, just like with lenses and teleconverters. I have

Re: Bruce R

2002-12-13 Thread Feroze Kistan
Sorry William but if your coming to his defence or trying to excuse his behaviour than you should apply that kind of response to all members of this list, regardless of lenght of time they've been year or how full their heads are with information. I find it hard to belive that you can react so

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi William, If the employer owns the work, does that include the negs as well or just the right to reproduce the images and the negs stay in the photographers possession? Feroze - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?) I don't feel that moving to a lower sensor size has anything to do with maintaining a SLR system, which is the whole

Re: Just another Sandinavian report. Longish.

2002-12-13 Thread Camdir
Out shooting some bands at a concert in late summer I was more or less picked up by this young woman who very much wanted to become a model. Well, she was nice and funny, and very persistent. (And she said that she felt I was just the right person for it - Any of you guys that

Re: PROS

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I don't think that you personally need a camera anymore either. There was a collection of photographs in the NY Times Magazine section a few weeks ago by a photographer that works more like a film director. There's a very large crew and the person who ultimately pushes the button is only the

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread T Rittenhouse
Someday, I am going to have to read up on Canadian copyrigth law. Of course in my last look around I found that apparently some lobbying has been done re copyright here in the US, as there are now several types of work that are defined as WFH unless otherwise agreed. Which was one of the things

Mettle, metal

2002-12-13 Thread Mike Johnston
He tests his metal more often, in other words. You mean mettle? Woo hoo, I just corrected an editor!! Oh, yes, you're right. I was thinking of Ezra Pound's dictum from the _ABC of Reading_, The amateur does not test his metal in the acid of accepted fact or words to that effect (quoting

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Maybe I don't understand this . . . As I understood it, the old K mount lenses would work fine with a new APS sensor with a 1.5 or so factor. The new new digital lenses would not work with the 35 mm film cameras (old or new) becuase of lack of coverage. This seems OK to me. Pentax will

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Pål Jensen
Bojidar wrote: First of all, releasing lenses with smaller coverage circles seems to indicate that the APS-sized digitals are here to stay. Like Alin, I too had hoped that they are only for-the-time-being solutions. It might be that this move is just a way to get proper wide angles for the

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this whatPentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Mike Ignatiev
I am, for one, would be glad to see the new lenses, as long as Pentax continues the backward-compatibility with the old ones. I want to use the old lenses on DSLR. Not the new ones on LX. Faec it, it's like complaining that 35mm lenses don't cover the whole 6x7 circle. Who gives? Besides, a

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Well, Bruce, I didn't ask why. Everyone knows it's about attempting to control others through inflicting pain. This is what I don't understand. Don't you know that control is an illusion? - but thanks for your sententious description of me. Regards from, Piss Face

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this whatPentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread tom
I guess the part I don't understand is why Nikon would release a lens covering the smaller sensor when they've got a full-frame coming out? Do they think full-frame prices will never come down? On a related note, I understand the argument that a smaller sensor may be sufficient to equal the

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread Cotty
With respect to focal length, APS sized sensors only have a negative effect on wide angle. So yes, you might have to burn a 200-500 dollar hole to get that new wide angle zoom or prime. But compare that to what happens to your telephoto lenses such as the 200/2.8 or 300/4.5. The savings there

Re: Just another Sandinavian report. Sheeeesh.

2002-12-13 Thread Cotty
Out shooting some bands at a concert in late summer I was more or less picked up by this young woman who very much wanted to become a model. Well, she was nice and funny, and very persistent. (And she said that she felt I was just the right person for it - Any of you guys that would

Re: Re: OT: Mailing photos

2002-12-13 Thread David Brooks
Just don't use thin cardboard.I sent out several pictures lately in soft cardboard,some arrived ok and 2 were bent in half to fit into a rural mailbox,even with the do not bend contains photos hilited in yellow. Complaint to Canada Post went nowere,as anticipated. Dave Begin Original

RE: Mike's Brief Harrumph

2002-12-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Two things: There is clearly no clear distinction between an amateur and a pro that one cannot nitpick about. The most obvious distinction is based on earning a reasonable part of one's income from photography, the key and controversial word being reasonable. The pro/amateur camera distinction

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Is this what Pentax is up to?) Maybe I don't understand this . . . As I understood it, the old K mount lenses would work fine with a new APS sensor with a 1.5 or so factor. They would work, but I'm not so sure about

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] With respect to focal length, APS sized sensors only have a negative effect on wide angle. So yes, you might have to burn a 200-500 dollar hole to get that new wide angle zoom or prime. But compare that to what happens to

Re: Naked without a camera.

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
At 01:01 PM 12/13/2002 +, Cotty wrote: I also don't want to clip some box on my belt that's a power unit! (It'll probably be only available in Japan only) My pants will fall down!! Guess I'm gladly out of the digital game for a long while! There are reports of an accessory hat with two

Re: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
Either the oil is getting thick, (dirty), or the return spring is getting fatigued. A cleaning will most probably fix the problem, (if you can find someplace to do the repair). It might be difficult to justify the cost however. At 12:11 PM 12/13/2002 +, you wrote: Would some of you

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
It's not quite that simple. What will we do for a 50/1.4? 24/2? Even if Pentax decided to release a 35/1.4, how many folks would be happy to shell out $1000 for what is basically a 50/1.4?! You guys dont understand. A 35mm F1.4 lens designed for a smaller sensor will be as cheap to produce

RE: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
Among other things the lens automatically works correctly in stop down mode on un-coupled devices and when mounted reversed. It can be a pain to try to use certain 3rd party m42 lenses on un-coupled extension tubes or for that matter a K to M42 adapter since they lack auto manual switches.

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Isthis what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
I thought about the Kodak camera. The problem here is finding the sweet spot of price and resolution. Once they start releasing APS senor lenses, they'll have a certain commitment to that format and the smaller sensor will always be a cheaper camera. After all, $1000 is cheap for a DSLR but

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this whatPentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll wait and see what Pentax does, but I have to admit I'm concerned. I was content with the pace at which Pentax released new cameras in the past because I knew the quality of my prints depended on the lenses, not the camera. This is no longer true with digital -

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this whatPentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
Even with the lessor requirements of the APS format sized format I doubt such a lens would be 'Tiny'. At 05:48 PM 12/13/2002 +0300, you wrote: I am, for one, would be glad to see the new lenses, as long as Pentax continues the backward-compatibility with the old ones. I want to use the old

Re: Re: OT: Mailing photos

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
Never underestimate the Idiocy of the postal services. To insure something from being bent my guess you'd have to mail it with a 1/8th inch steel plate as backing. Even then someone might just take it as a challenge. At 10:35 AM 12/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: Just don't use thin cardboard.I sent

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2002-12-13 Thread akozak
hat Pentax is up to?)?= Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: onet.poczta Hi, You are right. If we cannot use out nice manaual lenses and even new FA ones on future dslr it would be the end of Pentax in slr market. I do hope it will be the truth. Alek uytkownik Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa:

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It's not quite that simple. What will we do for a 50/1.4? 24/2? Even if Pentax decided to release a 35/1.4, how many folks would be happy to shell out $1000 for what is basically a 50/1.4?! You guys dont

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread Arnold Stark
J. C. O'Connell schrieb: You guys dont understand. A 35mm F1.4 lens designed for a smaller sensor will be as cheap to produce as a 50mm F1.4 for 35mm or even cheaper. That I do not believe as the distance of the lens to the focal plane will not be changed so that a 35mm f1.4 must be a

Re: Re: OT: Mailing photos

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
Never underestimate the Idiocy of the postal services. To insure something from being bent my guess you'd have to mail it with a 1/8th inch steel plate as backing. Even then someone might just take it as a challenge. I just re-read this and realize that possibly someone could take this as a

Re: Re: Re: OT: Mailing photos

2002-12-13 Thread David Brooks
To mail a picture costs me a $1.00.I might have to charge postage on this itemvbg Dave Begin Original Message From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To insure something from being bent my guess you'd have to mail it with a 1/8th inch steel plate as backing.   Pentax User Stouffville

OT: eBay auctiothat fills one with confidence

2002-12-13 Thread Cotty
This is worth a look - have a chuckle... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1945289157 :-) Cotty Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!

OT: Fuji Acros Again

2002-12-13 Thread David Chang-Sang
Folks, I know Brendan and a few others have used this Fuji 100 BW film but seeing as how it's been about a month or two I want to find out what developer people are using to develop the film if they're doing it on their own (i.e. not dropping it off for processing). Which one gives the results

Pentax Tram

2002-12-13 Thread Cotty
No bids yet, and not a camera or lens, so maybe fair game? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1924642712 Cotty Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Pål Jensen
Alin wrote: results? - current APS sized 6 MPixel cameras are not convincing at all in a digital versus film argument, at least not to me. Just because today's scanners are poor in exploiting film capabilities (see Nyquest sampling frequency theorem) doesn't mean digital

Re: OT: eBay auctiothat fills one with confidence

2002-12-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Needs autofocus. Must be a girl . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/13/02 11:25AM This is worth a look - have a chuckle...

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this whatPentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Pl Jensen
Tom wrote: I'll wait and see what Pentax does, but I have to admit I'm concerned. I was content with the pace at which Pentax released new cameras in the past because I knew the quality of my prints depended on the lenses, not the camera. This is no longer true with digital - the body is no

Re: KMP Update, updated FS list

2002-12-13 Thread Peter Alling
I know the photo on the LX early version page has to be because Boz don't have a good photo of the black body, but it is funny. At 10:51 AM 12/13/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi all, I have just uploaded the next KMP release. You will find mostly small corrections and additions to the Lenses and

RE: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm

2002-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Good point. But since you still get the A/M switch on every auto aperture PENTAX screwmount lens, I like that system better. The aperture ALWAYS stops down fully unless it's REALLY fowled with oil because its forced hard by the body and isnt relying on a spring that may weaken with age. JCO

Re[2]: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
On top of that, it seems we are really talking two standards here. One for APS size sensor and one for full frame. I have seen plenty of 8X10 prints from Nikon D100 and they look just fine. A large portion of the SLR community doesn't commonly print beyond 8X10. Why use so much more horsepower

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I don't understand this . . . As I understood it, the old K mount lenses would work fine with a new APS sensor with a 1.5 or so factor. They would work, but I'm not so sure about fine. I think that lenses designed strictly for a smaller image

Re: OT: eBay auctiothat fills one with confidence

2002-12-13 Thread David Brooks
Musta used a 'softening' filterG Dave Begin Original Message From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:25:35 + To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: eBay auctiothat fills one with confidence This is worth a look - have a chuckle...

RE: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread Matti Etelapera
Hi gang, I bet Pentax has all this time been waiting for the sensor technology to upgrade on a level that a good quality 5 mpix 17x13mm chip can be made. The Digital Auto 110 would be something ;) -mte

Re: Naked without a camera.

2002-12-13 Thread Cotty
There are reports of an accessory hat with two power units mounted on either side, much like the much lauded and technologically advanced beer hat of the '70s. I understand that as the power units discharge, the waste heat is scavenged and reused in the winter for ear warming. That's got to

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging?

2002-12-13 Thread Tom Reese
From: Arnold Stark J. C. O'Connell schrieb: You guys dont understand. A 35mm F1.4 lens designed for a smaller sensor will be as cheap to produce as a 50mm F1.4 for 35mm or even cheaper. That I do not believe as the distance of the lens to the focal plane will not be changed so that a 35mm f1.4

Re[2]: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DXlenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
If Pentax does the same thing, what is the harm? Seems to make lots of sense. Don't abandon the mount, just make a few specific lenses to cover the wide side. If and when full frame is a economically viable option, then build and sell it. Exactly. Pentax wants to make a viable APS sensor

Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Ken Archer
My normal film is Kodak Portra 160 or 400 NC. On early mornings under cloudy conditions I use Kodak Max 800 because of the additional speed and increased contrast. I don't particulary like the color and the added grain of the Max 800, however. Has anyone used a film that gives the color and

RE: Change in stop down mechanics K vs. M42 was RE: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm

2002-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Change in stop down mechanics K vs. M42 was RE: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm What you say is true. If you stick with Pentax(Takumar) you're all set. My only point on the K mount change is that it is probably easier to engineer Right and build, Right therefore simpler with

RE: Re[2]: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DXlenses: Is this what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
And given the same basic technology, the larger sensor will have higher resolution. Or dont forget, given the same number of Mpixels, a larger sensor will be more sensitive. This would allow faster shutter sppeds and or better DOF when needed. JCO

Re: Portra 400 UC

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hey Joe, Thanks for the first peak at this new film. I've got to go out and shoot some (just sitting in the fridge). I wonder how it compares to the 400VC product? Thanks again, Bruce Friday, December 13, 2002, 10:01:43 AM, you wrote: JT I spent November in France, during which I shot

RE: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Ken Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My normal film is Kodak Portra 160 or 400 NC. On early mornings under cloudy conditions I use Kodak Max 800 because of the additional speed and increased contrast. I don't particulary like the color and the added

All At Sea - Suggestions Wanted for Cheap Telephoto

2002-12-13 Thread eactivist
Okay, I mentioned previously that I bought a PDMLer's MZ-5n. Also included was the 28-70mm AF/Al Autofocus lens. I've played with it a bit and don't particularly like its feel (sheesh, now I sound like the rest of you!). I shot one role (not back yet) all autofocus to see how it worked. I also

RE: Re: OT: Mailing photos

2002-12-13 Thread tom
Here's what I do: - Put like-sized prints in plastic print-file envelopes. - Tape envelopes shut. - Tape envelopes to cardboard that's a bit larger than the envelope. This prevents the photo corners from being dinged. - If it's a small order, I place another piece of cardboard on top making a

Re: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Ken, The two to try are Portra 800 and Fuji NPZ 800. There was a recent thread on this. The bottom line seems to be that the Portra should be shot more about 640 and the NPZ is a true 800. Bruce Friday, December 13, 2002, 4:22:10 AM, you wrote: KA My normal film is Kodak Portra 160 or 400

FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Cross
Can someone who own the FA 50mm F/1.4 tell me if his/her lens has an aperture click at f/1.7? My new FA 50mm f/1.4 lens does not have a distinct click stop at the f/1.7 aperture. There is a click stop at f/1.4 and f/2.0 but not at f/1.7. There are distinct click stops at all other full and

Re: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Cross
Ken, I heartily recommend Portra 800. Give it a try. Michael Cross Ken Archer wrote: My normal film is Kodak Portra 160 or 400 NC. On early mornings under cloudy conditions I use Kodak Max 800 because of the additional speed and increased contrast. I don't particulary like the color and

Re: Portra 400 UC (Postscriptum)

2002-12-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Forgot to mention. I did not push the film, but several times I underexposed by 1 to 1.5 stops. The prints look fine. Joe

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Dr E D F Williams
It would appear that although the title of the thread is still strange the subject matter has changed. I'm back and ready to make a whole load of filters should it happen again. Photographers don't usually hand over the negatives after they have completed an ordinary job, like taking pictures of

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Isthiswhat Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
T Rittenhouse wrote: The computer electronics law of halves should apply. That is 1/2 the price, or twice the capability per year. That puts a 14mp 24x36 sensor camera down into the $1000 range in two years. But there is always the WTMWB factor to consider. But that just isn't happening. See

Re: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ken Archer asked: I don't particulary like the color and the added grain of the Max 800, however. Has anyone used a film that gives the color and grain of Portra NC with additional speed and contrast? They won't be quite the same look as Portra 400 NC, but you'll probably be happier with

Re: OT: Fuji Acros Again

2002-12-13 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Expose @ ISO 80 HC-110(b)

Re: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Ken Archer
Mike, Since I am usually working under rather blah conditions when I need the 800 film, I need something with a little more contrast in it. I have heard that Portra 800 has about the same kind of contrast as 160/400 NC, is that true? On Friday 13 December 2002 06:35 pm, Michael Cross wrote:

Re: RE: Fuji Acros Again

2002-12-13 Thread David Brooks
David. Did you look at: http://www.digitaltruth.com/ They have the Acros film listed. Dave Begin Original Message From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:49:06 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Fuji Acros Again -Original Message- From: David

Re: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Ken Archer
Bruce, Does the NPZ 800 have the exaggerated colors that most Fuji films seem to have? On Friday 13 December 2002 06:34 pm, Bruce Dayton wrote: Ken, The two to try are Portra 800 and Fuji NPZ 800. There was a recent thread on this. The bottom line seems to be that the Portra should be

Copyright matters OT

2002-12-13 Thread Dr E D F Williams
It would appear that although the title of the thread is still strange the subject matter has changed. I'm back and ready to make a whole load of filters should it happen again. I've changed it again in the hope that most filters will not delete it without it being read. Photographers don't

Re: EPson ink usage for color prints

2002-12-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
Though not the same concept, an outfit called Photographer's Edge (www.photographersedge.com) sells calendar blanks already bound, onto which you attach 4 X 6 horizontal prints. Prices range from $5.99 to $4.99 each depending on volume. Add in the cost of the prints (13 images required) and

Re: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Cross
Ken, I really haven't used it outside too much. But its really not going to be a higher contrast film I would say. How about Kodak Supra 800? It is supposed to have higher contrast and punchy colors. Michael Ken Archer wrote: Mike, Since I am usually working under rather blah conditions

RE: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ken Archer asked: I don't particulary like the color and the added grain of the Max 800, however. Has anyone used a film that gives the color and grain of Portra NC with additional speed and contrast? They

Re: PROS [WAS:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.]

2002-12-13 Thread Keith Whaley
Dr E D F Williams wrote: It would appear that although the title of the thread is still strange the subject matter has changed. I'm back and ready to make a whole load of filters should it happen again. Oh, we know that you will! Why don't you just drop it Doctor. Everybody else has. A

Re[2]: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Ken, I haven't noticed any real problems with the NPZ, but then, I haven't shot lots of it. It did seem on the cool side (typical for Fuji), but no real problems. If you are shooting only 35mm, there is also Supra 800. It is much more contrasty than Portra 800 and maybe finer grained.

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Dr E D F Williams, Having been certified by Mr. Bruce Rubenstein as Piss Face, May I recommend, should I not already be there, that you put me in one of your filters. Yup, I volunteer. All of the photos negatives that I produce as part of my job belong to my clients, therefore all is handed

RE: FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring

2002-12-13 Thread MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1)
Michael, My FA 50mm f1.4 does NOT have a click between 2 and 1.4. On my PZ-1p I do get a f1.7 readout. SN# of lens: 5140XXX Purchased from BH around August 2002 Mark Mangum -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:34

Re: FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring

2002-12-13 Thread Jostein
Mine has no click stop at 1.7 Jostein - Original Message - From: Michael Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring Can someone who own the FA 50mm F/1.4 tell me if his/her lens has an aperture

RE: FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring

2002-12-13 Thread MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1)
Follow up, Michael, FYI.. There is also no click between 11 16 and 16 22. All others have the half stop clicks. Mark Mangum -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:34 PM To: Pentax Mail Subject: FA 50mm F/1.4

Re: Bruce R

2002-12-13 Thread Feroze Kistan
I asked, you answered, I'm happy Feroze - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Bruce R - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan Subject: Re: Bruce R Sorry William but if your

RE: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] MORE GUNS. Dr E D F Williams, Having been certified by Mr. Bruce Rubenstein as Piss Face, May I recommend, should I not already be there, that you put me in one of your filters. Yup, I volunteer. Can I have a

Re: FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring

2002-12-13 Thread Scott Nelson
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 10:33, Michael Cross wrote: Can someone who own the FA 50mm F/1.4 tell me if his/her lens has an aperture click at f/1.7? My new FA 50mm f/1.4 lens does not have a distinct click stop at the f/1.7 aperture. There is a click stop at f/1.4 and f/2.0 but not at f/1.7.

Digital Darkroom

2002-12-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, it's official: I suck at doing digital darkroom stuff. I saw others' complaints about the time required to do the post processing digitally instead of handing it off to a lab to do wet, and even with that in mind I'm too slow. And whether it's lack of skill, lack of tools, or both (it

Re: PROS [WAS:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.]

2002-12-13 Thread Dr E D F Williams
What on earth have I done? For Gud's sake? Are you off your medication? You really must keep taking those pills old chap. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley

Re: Digital Darkroom

2002-12-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
You have my sympathies. It's certainly not easy, just more doable than a color enlarger. I often kill work and go back to the original, but I haven't had to do much on deadline and I can get pretty frustrated just enjoying my hobby. I can't image taking my 500 vacation pictures, digital or

Re: Digital Darkroom

2002-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, it's official: I suck at doing digital darkroom stuff. I saw others' complaints about the time required to do the post processing digitally instead of handing it off to a lab to do wet, and even with that in mind I'm too slow. And whether it's

Flash questions

2002-12-13 Thread Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes
[disclaimer: these are pretty basic questions, but hey! I never claim to be more than a beginner... but a professional beginner, ofcourse! g] It's been said on numerous occasions that the exposure compensation dial works as flash compensation in M mode. Okay, so if I understand this correctly,

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Isthiswhat Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
What is not being addressed here is that many of the shooters who are currently buying DSLRs aren't looking for 30meg files. One of the features that they like about the Kodak 14n is that it can be configured to only produce 8meg (not compressed) files. Giant files, unless you really need them,

Re: Digital Darkroom

2002-12-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Study and practice are indeed the keys. *nod* That's why I stuck that bit in. I've been giving prints as Christmas gifts and have no trouble going from insert the slide into the scanner to print emerges from the inkjet printer in about 30 minutes. I had some try to minimize my 5 o'clock

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:37 PM, tom wrote: Can I have a cool name too? tv Nope. If you want a cool name, you'll have to earn it. :-) Dan Scott

Re: FA 50mm F/1.4 Aperture Ring

2002-12-13 Thread Brad Dobo
Ditto here. Mine has no click stop at 1.7 Jostein

RE: Flash questions

2002-12-13 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It's been said on numerous occasions that the exposure compensation dial works as flash compensation in M mode. Okay, so if I understand this correctly, for half intensity, dial in -1 EV of flash

Re: All At Sea - Suggestions Wanted for Cheap Telephoto

2002-12-13 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 12:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I am wondering which telephoto (to 200) or prime (to 200 or 300) that I might get. One which I won't have to pay more than $100 for (or much more than that). Pentax or other brand. (Don't want much, do I?) You could

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DXlenses:Isthiswhat Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Scott Nelson
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 12:21, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: What is not being addressed here is that many of the shooters who are currently buying DSLRs aren't looking for 30meg files. One of the features that they like about the Kodak 14n is that it can be configured to only produce 8meg (not

RE: Flash questions

2002-12-13 Thread Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes
Thanks, Tom! Very nice explanation. Much appreciated. - jerome On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, tom wrote: The camera is still metering for the ambient light. You've set the sperture/shutter speed for a correct ambient exposure. If you dial in -1, the camera is telling you that the manual

Re: Re[2]: Substitute for Max 800?

2002-12-13 Thread Ken Archer
Bruce, I shoot mostly retriever hunt tests and field trials. I had three weekends in a row in October where it rained everyday. When I came home after the first weekend, you couldn't tell what color my truck was for all the mud. After the third weekend of rain, it kind of dawned on me why

Re: RE: Flash questions

2002-12-13 Thread David Brooks
Printed and in the binder.Thanks Tom Dave Begin Original Message From: Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:16:45 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Flash questions Thanks, Tom! Very nice explanation. Much appreciated.      - jerome

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Isthis what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Isthis what Pentax is up to?) The computer electronics law of halves should apply. That is 1/2 the price, or twice the capability per year. That puts a 14mp 24x36 sensor

RE: Flash questions

2002-12-13 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
No. You have to repeately post to a thread that has nothing to do with photography, without trimming your reply so that your post is 75 lines long with 1 new line and then you have to claim that you can do this because freedom of speech is protected under the First Amendment (this really impresses

Re: A new DSLR standard emerging? (WAS: Re: Nikon DX lenses:Isthis what Pentax is up to?)

2002-12-13 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The computer electronics law of halves should apply. That is 1/2 the price, or twice the capability per year. That puts a 14mp 24x36 sensor camera down into the $1000 range in two years. Graywolf, It's called Moore's Law, but it doesn't work so good for some

Re: All At Sea - Suggestions Wanted for Cheap Telephoto

2002-12-13 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You could look for an M 200/4 or the earlier and larger 200/4. You'd like the feel and probably like the quality better than a cheap zoom that goes to 200. I'd second Dan's recommendation on the M 200/4. It's small and good. I also use a Pentax FA 70-210/4-5.6?

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