Put me down as definite. We mailed the registration this morning.
Suggestion for those who are going:
Make it worth your while. Great Smoky Mountain National Park is only a few
hours from GFM. We're taking a full week and heading for GSMNP from GFM.
Tom Reese
That must be quite convenient.. my cat doesn't even roll over..
:)
Ryan
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail Coon - Jotenheim Golum
That's a nice shot Christian- great colours. The geese don't look as elegant
as I imagine them to be (especially after watching 'Travelling Birds'.
Anyone seen that? Great doco.. Unbelievable angles..) Maybe it's just the
4th duck.. the silhouette gives me the impression he forgot to put on his
Hi gang.
I had a chance to shoot a couple of 35mm rolls this Saturday,and i thought i best use
the
PZ-1 to start
getting used to it.
BTW this concern is with glasses on my face.
I noticed that after setting the adjustabel
on 05.12.03 19:42, Rüdiger Neumann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on dpreview is a long thread about the focus problem on fast lenses.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028message=6551761
It is stated, that the AF is not correct for lenses like the FA 1.4/50,
FA*1.4/85,
The problems noted on dpreview actually relate to focus accuracy with distant objects,
near infinity. Problems are said to be much more significant there than at closer
distances.
I used to be so bad at focusssing manually though, that any innacuracy would still be
far better than my
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Coming to terms with *ist D lens mag factor?
So how are *ist D users coping with the lens mag factors and are some
lenses
now less useful than they were on film bodies?
Just fine. I made the transition pretty seamlessly in this
on 08.12.03 13:57, Rob Brigham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problems noted on dpreview actually relate to focus accuracy with distant
objects, near infinity. Problems are said to be much more significant there
than at closer distances.
Hmmm... I will test this issue too than, althought I
On 8 Dec 2003 at 2:59, Dave Miers wrote:
Brian
I took your advice and took this deal on the free web hosting as well as
getting my domain from GoDaddy. Thanks for the tip. It appears to be all
you said and thus far I can't find any hidden flaws. The admin panel is a
bit slow to load but
Bill,
We bought a 20 gig portable at work for a 'sneaker network' between a
stand alone system and our corporate network. It works fine, but...
With the latest laptops having DVD burners built in, I can't imagine why
you wouldn't do that first with your pictures. The more you put in
Hi!
That's most unusual. At least to me. I have to wear glasses all the
time (-6 diopters in each eye). I have no problems whatsoever with my
ZX-L and with ME Super. In former I've ajusted the built-in diopter by
focusing on some clear object with my FA 50/1.7 and then adjusting the
diopter
on 12/8/03 3:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, it's not dead, just seriously, but not critically, ill.
Sadly, I do think it is critically ill. The next few years will be most
interesting.
One of the local office suppliers has a 3.1 MP camera for CAN $149.00.
Granted,
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:13:27 -0600, William Robb wrote:
People talk about a solid market for film, but if this digital is this
inexpensive this early in its market penetration, film doesn't stand a
chance.
In the industrialized world, I think you're probably right. There are
large parts of
Jon Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
until digital can be done more conveniently and _without_ a computer,
This until is already here.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Here's a subjective short list. All are photoshop
plugs unless otherwise noted. I've used all of these,
and others as well. These are my pick:
Color correction:
Pictographics EditLab (has memory colors for foliage, skin, sky)
Pictographics iCorrect (slightly fewer features than EditLab, and
Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are
large parts of the world though where computing is not ubiquitous and I
think film will survive there for quite a while.
At least until computer print setups are cheaper than minilabs...
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
WW penned:
In the industrialized world, I think you're probably right. There are
large parts of the world though where computing is not ubiquitous and I
think film will survive there for quite a while.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
So you HAVE been to
Hi Fritz: nice shots. Great colour... There is certainly something to be said
about having a nice little point and shoot handy. And if it's digital, all
the better...
Vic
While I have (still) the *ist D on order, now from TechnikDirekt (taking
forever), I have won an Olympus, the C350ZOOM, I
I briefly owned a Nikon Coolpix 5700 this summer. I was trying to hold out for the
arrival of the *istD and hoped that this would be a useful stopgap for me to use until
Pentax had their digital on the shelves.
Not so. I returned the camera to the shop two days after I bought it. Even with
Ah,
My bad. I recalled seeing on the Apple website that there were no
moving parts, and now that I go back and read carefully, they are
talking about the interface, not the parts inside. Looking into the
tech specs, they do indeed quote that these have hard drives in them.
At any
You seem to be missing the point. I've already said that film would work
better if they just wanted to take a few rolls. However, they want a
digital camera, possibly for the immediacy of the results, the fun of
being able to show their photos to people after taking them, etc.
They'll be fine
Yes Wendy the lag time is one thing I did notice. Because I was shooting
action most of the time, it certainly was an annoyance. The digital viewfinder was
very weird. I'd line up the shot, take the picture, there was a lag time,
then the picture was taken, the screen held the picture and by
On Monday, Dec 8, 2003, at 02:09 America/New_York, Rob Studdert wrote:
So how are *ist D users coping with the lens mag factors and are some
lenses
now less useful than they were on film bodies?
More or less transparently. I don't even think about the mag factor at
all when I shoot. Over time,
on 08.12.03 16:09, Juey Chong Ong at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I guess I'm looking for a 15-60 lens. Is there any out there?
So you'd better wait for this:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0308/03080801pentaxda1645m.asp
--
Best Regards
Sylwek
- Original Message -
From: Jon Glass
Subject: Re: Re: down in the darkroom
. Of course, if the labs did find a way for dealing with the
computer aspect of digital, then I could see film going the way of the
dinosaur very quickly, but without that crucial element, I don't see film
Well actually the labs have already dealt with this to a point. You can
simply take in your CF Memory card to the lab and they will download and
print the pictures from it. However there is of course no negative,
although you can get them to put the pics on cd, but of course for a non
computer
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So how are *ist D users coping with the lens mag factors and are some
lenses
now less useful than they were on film bodies?
Are you using the *ist D in parallel with film bodies?
Cheers,
Rob
I'm coping just fine! I no
All --
It's scary how many excellent shooters are listed here!
Also kinda intimidating... ;-)
stephen the self-conscious
tom wrote:
TV
Annsan
Doug
Bill
Cesar
Mark
Rittenhouse
Cotty
Stan
ERN
A lurker or 2
Jostein
Frank
Adelheid
Desjardins?
Jerome?
Doug Franklin?
Len?
Herb?
Cory Or Brenda?
Tom
1. One image per month.
How many contributions should each photographer be able to submit each month?
Here are the options:
1. One image per gallery, in either the themed or the open section of the
gallery.
2. One image in each section of the gallery.
Votes will be recorded with thanks.
Boris posted:
That's most unusual. At least to me. I have to wear glasses all the
time (-6 diopters in each eye). I have no problems whatsoever with my
ZX-L and with ME Super. In former I've ajusted the built-in diopter by
focusing on some clear object with my FA 50/1.7 and then adjusting
My wife and I have already registered.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
My conclusion is: focusing problems with *istD are exaggerated, it is rather
difficult to obtain better results during action manually focusing at
shallow DOF, and if you want top focus on stationery object, than you have
time to use MF anyway. Enjoy your cameras, taking all these great
Another problem with buying a new gadget for a trip is this: Usually
the people who purchase them, as intelligent as they may be, do not
have a chance to learn the new gadget. They do not know all the
features, quirks, or let downs. They do not know how it behaves or
operates. In my
The only problem I found is with the wa side. My 24 is the widest I've got
and I used the 24 a lot with my film camera. My lense lined up nicely
otherwise.
24 to 35mm
35 to 50mm (I might sell this one since I don't use 50mm much)
50 to 75mm (finally a portrait lens)
100 to 150mm (haven't done
- Original Message -
From: Th. Stach
Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)
you're drawing your conclusion based on your sample only.
To me, it's an obvious quality-control problem.
So please don't tell us, focusing problems with *istD are exaggerated,
in
Hi!
Bill, I think that what we're seeing know is what called among my kind
- the bleeding edge. This is very first generation of Pentax __new__
AF system. I am fairly sure that what people are observing can be
fixed in the program, not in hardware...
I hope though that this is nothing more
Jon Glass wrote:
until digital can be done more conveniently and _without_ a computer
... and Mark Roberts wrote:
This until is already here.
Right - there are cute little stand-alone printers out there
that you just plug the camera into and pop
William Robb schrieb:
- Original Message -
From: Th. Stach
Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)
you're drawing your conclusion based on your sample only.
To me, it's an obvious quality-control problem.
So please don't tell us, focusing problems with
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman
Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)
Hi!
Bill, I think that what we're seeing know is what called among my kind
- the bleeding edge. This is very first generation of Pentax __new__
AF system. I am fairly sure that
- Original Message -
From: Th. Stach
Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)
*ROTFL*!!!
auto-f... hehe, great!
William,
normally I'd say 100% ACK but the viewfinder of current DSLRs is like
a view through a tunnel.
Especially when you're changing back and
If one is comparing digi to film, then let's look at this: You can take
a happy snap and walk into most any photoshop here, slip your card into
a slot, push a button, and out comes a print up to 8x10 in size. I think
the systems are called photo kiosks ... some offer more or less
features, but
Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon Glass wrote:
until digital can be done more conveniently and _without_ a computer
... and Mark Roberts wrote:
This until is already here.
Right - there are cute little stand-alone printers out there
My Epson 925 ($130.00 at Best Buy) will print anything from 4x6 to 8.5x11
with various options in between by either plugging in the camera or memory
card.
Bill
Jon Glass wrote:
until digital can be done more conveniently and _without_ a computer
... and Mark Roberts wrote:
I pretty much only us AF when I can't focus manually fast enough (not
very often). Seems that the type of inaccuracy we are hearing about
probably most affects sports/wildlife shooters who are far away from
the action - otherwise, why not use manual focus?
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Monday,
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, William Robb wrote:
Agreed about that. Unfortunately, this seems to be the way of the world. Of
all the APS sensor sized DSLR's I have seen, the ist D seems to have the
best one, but for sure, the LX is better.
It is the downside of having a smaller sensor. Light is being
I am awaiting the DA 16-45 f4, and hope it is followed soon by DA 50-200
f4, DA 12-18 f4, and fast (at least f2) primes at 13 and 16 mm. I told
the Pentax rep that if Pentax doesn't fill these gaps soon, Sigma will.
Pentax will fill the holes in its own time, at least for zooms. If we
see
in the January Shutterbug. He praises the camera, but faintly
(well-featured for a Pentax). He does note that the program metering
overexposes, which some of us have complained about in previous Pentax
cameras.
The metering is, of course, designed for color print film. I don't
understand why
Yep, the now old and currently being clearanced Epson 785EPX for less then a
$100 has a slot to insert an adaptor with a CF card. There is even a small
monitor to view the pictures your working with also available for like $40
that plugs in the back of the printer. For a cheap printer it does a
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DT DagT wrote:
DT In large parts of the world even a minilab i far out of reach.
DT Electricity too
Sounds like for those parts of the world, that they are not much of a
market for any kind of photography - film or digital. Film requires some kind of
I generally find the matrix metering most useful when shooting snaps
of people. I suspect the algorithm favors that type of picture.
When you are doing more deliberate work, the matrix really
gets in the way because you have no clue what the meter is really
doing. Center weighted or spot is the
On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time I get around
to Tom's it'll be nearly 8pm ? and I'll be
in the January Shutterbug. He praises the camera, but faintly
(well-featured for a Pentax). He does note that the program metering
overexposes, which some of us have complained about in previous Pentax
cameras.
The metering is, of course, designed for color print film. I don't
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time I get around
to Tom's
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
It appears that BH has two used Pentax 28-70/2.8s right now.
Vic
If you need speed, you will need to spend the $$ on a constant aperture
24/28-70/75/80 f2.8. Tokina's 28-80 is extremely sharp. Tamron's new
28-75 has been tested to be very sharp, and is
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Lapsang Souchong...
-frank
Funny - I have an box of Fortnum and Mason that is labelled Earl Grey but is
actually Lapsang Souchong... an odd packaging mistake - but after our tea
discussions here
I got it out had had a cup last evening.
I'll bring you
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Francis Alviar wrote:
How about an FA 50mm f/1.4 coupled with a 2x extender? Will it be
as sharp as say an FA 100mm f/2.8 macro?
Probably not. The teleconverters are generally designed to work a
variety of lenses and need to make some compromises. The 50/1.4 plus
I assume that a prime lens of 50mm, let's say a FA 50 1.4, is always going
to be sharper than a FA 28-105 set at 50mm. Is this true, assuming that
both
were set at the same f-stop?
I guess it depends on the f-stop. At f/8 the should givie similar sharpness.
Disclaimer - it's just a thought, i
Not super consumers like us, but they are many. Even in good parts of
a city like Jakarta each household has 10 Amps. Electricity is a
limited resource. You can develop and print from analog film with one
lamp. Try that with a digital file.
Analog photography was born without the knowledge
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Here's a thought, instead of getting a portable HD which has moving
parts, get yourself an iPod. 20 GB will run you $400. You can buy an
adapter that will read media cards (Belkin media card adapter runs
$100). Now you have a portable musics
-- Vasily Klyutchevsky, Russian historian
From: Larry Hodgson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question 1:
I assume that a prime lens of 50mm, let's say a FA 50 1.4, is always going
to be sharper than a FA 28-105 set at 50mm. Is this true,
assuming that both
were set at the same f-stop?
Yes and
På 8. des. 2003 kl. 20.16 skrev Mark Roberts:
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DT DagT wrote:
DT In large parts of the world even a minilab i far out of reach.
DT Electricity too
Sounds like for those parts of the world, that they are not much of a
market for any kind of photography -
My PZ-1p does not have this problem, not at all, as far as I can tell.
I compare it with many cameras and I think it's among the best in Pentax,
certainly better than any of the more recent designs. I wonder if
your sample had its finder glass repaired or replaced in the past?
Tonghang.
On
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
there's one a bit like that near Cotty's house:
http://www.headington.org.uk/history/misc/shark.htm
Yup, seen it many times. It's in a very inoffensive little backstreet in
Oxford and you get vanloads of tourists coming to see it. It was put
there by an
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in
DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday
I think Dupont circle would be better (wink, wink; nudge, nudge)
Christian
- Original Message -
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
tv
Very neat idea, to be sure, for a Marmite eater! g
Save me from buying a number of extra 512 Mb Xd, CF and SD backup cards
for the cameras. . .
For me, the 10 GB iPod would be perfect!
keith
Cotty wrote:
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Here's a thought, instead of getting a
Okay, here's a poser for you *ist D users. What's the maddest lens you've
had on your Pentax DSLR?
Gotta be the A*135mm f/1.8 ? Anyone tried that?
Anyone using the brilliant A*85mm f/1.4?
Anyone tried the 600 f/4?
Anyone mad as a hatter out there?
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) |
At 02:57 PM 12/8/03, throwing caution to the wind, Cotty wrote:
Okay, here's a poser for you *ist D users. What's the maddest lens you've
had on your Pentax DSLR?
Gotta be the A*135mm f/1.8 ? Anyone tried that?
Anyone using the brilliant A*85mm f/1.4?
Anyone tried the 600 f/4?
Anyone mad as a
I tried it with the A* 85 last week. It worked, and focussing was
easy. I´ll let you know, I´ll order it when the 16-45 comes.
They had the A* 135 there, but I didn´t dare to try. It could become a
habit
DagT
På 8. des. 2003 kl. 20.57 skrev Cotty:
Okay, here's a poser for you *ist D
My lenses are pretty sedate..no anger required.
Well, the F35-135 macro was pretty upset when I let the tripod tip over and
it crashed onto a rock...
Cory Waters
my friends say I got mad shootin' skillz, yo.
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL
Right now we have 3 survivors:
Kelly1991
Mr Pipe Liner(liner for short) 1993
Norman 1999
Ones from the past:
Samantha
Puff(we were kids)
Tom E Cat
Fred
Odee(see pug)
Bluestar
Dewpoint
Windchill
and one i cannot remember.
Thats our gang:-)
Dave
-
Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:57 PM 12/8/03, throwing caution to the wind, Cotty wrote:
Okay, here's a poser for you *ist D users. What's the maddest lens you've
had on your Pentax DSLR?
Gotta be the A*135mm f/1.8 ? Anyone tried that?
Anyone using the brilliant A*85mm f/1.4?
Hi,
I think its a bad idea to think of it as a magnification factor, as its
really cropping the edges. One thing that annoys me is that even though
a 50mm becomes the right length for a portrait lens, its not as
flattering as really having an 85mm focal length on the camera. Also my
standard
I took some shots of the full moon last night using the *istD. I have
confirmed two things for myself:
1) the sunny 16 rule works great for the moon.
2) My 500 mirror lens is pretty lousy. The edge of the moon looks
ragged.
I'll try it again tonight with my 100-300 zoom set to around 250.
I haven't seen all of these posts, but has anyone mentioned pb and
banana? a high caloric fix.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shel wrote:
You can take
a happy snap and walk into most any photoshop here, slip your card into
a slot, push a button, and out comes a print up to 8x10 in size.
I tried that at our local Walmart. Took the card out of the camera, stuck it in the
slot. Got the message file too large. That was
I missed this thread at first, and I had started another (Moonshot
with*istD). I also got a fuzzy moon (sounds like a cocktail) but I
assumed it was the lens.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL
Yes! With mayo, one of my favorites, also with Swiss Cheese and sweet
pickles.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: OT-Totally OT but...
I haven't seen all of these posts, but
I'll try it again tonight with my 100-300 zoom set to around 250. BTW,
am I correct in noting that the *istD has no mirror pre-fire?
No. There is a PF that allows 2 second self timer delay with MLU.
Bill
You guys in Toronto taking pics of the theater for PUG?
CRB
At 03:44 PM 12/8/03, throwing caution to the wind, Mark Roberts wrote:
At GFM, we'll be running the istd on a Tak 1000/8...
It's a portrait lens for shy people.
Last time Bill Fortney was at GFM, I pitched a new book idea to him--
Portraits From 500 Feet-- but he didn't bite.
There's always
I don't think Kodak will stay alive selling film to people developing
and printing with a single lamp in their house.
I think what you are saying is that digital is too costly for many
parts of the world. I am saying that not only is digital too costly,
but that making a thriving business
Frank,
my thoughts as well. Lucky me, we live together. g
Matja
I'd be a happy cat, too, if I were being scratched under the chin by
that lovely young lady. vbg
Nice shot, Matasz!
cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
Georgetown, Washington? Figures.
There's the Sunday night as well, if we are returning to DC then,
although I dare say that it'll be spent forming an orderly
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Okay, here's a poser for you *ist D users. What's the maddest lens you've
had on your Pentax DSLR?
Gotta be the A*135mm f/1.8 ? Anyone tried that?
Anyone using the brilliant A*85mm f/1.4?
Anyone tried the 600 f/4?
Anyone mad as a hatter out there?
At
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
At GFM, we'll be running the istd on a Tak 1000/8...
It's a portrait lens for shy people.
Hang on - that's an effective focal length of 1500mm !
I know you can just about make out the high-rises of Charlotte from GFM.
You wanna check out the shirt size
Hello Steve,
I thought by setting the timer to 2 secs instead of 12, that you got
mirror pre-fire, just like the PZ-1p. I believe it is a custom
setting.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Monday, December 8, 2003, 12:46:56 PM, you wrote:
SD I took some shots of the full moon last night using the
Okay, here's a poser for you *ist D users. What's the maddest lens you've
had on your Pentax DSLR?
Well, I've got a 250-600 I'm going to use on it at some point.
I might even try it with the 2X-L, although I suspect that my
tripod will be the weakest link in the chain by that time.
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I think its a bad idea to think of it as a magnification factor, as its
really cropping the edges. One thing that annoys me is that even though
a 50mm becomes the right length for a portrait lens, its not as
flattering as really having an 85mm focal
For a brief lunch I just put down several slices of Hickory Farms Beef
Stick, along with some thick chunks of sharp yellow Wisconsin cheddar
and some thin crispy bisquits.
And your post still managed to tweak the hunger genes again! g
keith
Bill Owens wrote:
Yes! With mayo, one of my
Walmart ain't the only Kiosk in town ...
wendy beard wrote:
Shel wrote:
You can take
a happy snap and walk into most any photoshop here, slip your card into
a slot, push a button, and out comes a print up to 8x10 in size.
I tried that at our local Walmart. Took the card out of the
On 8 Dec 2003 at 11:38, Malcolm Smith wrote:
How do I like the *ist D?
So far, not a lot. An LX it ain't.
I see there has been an avalanche of responses thus far..
Maybe you can enlighten us to the reasons for your feelings?
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)
Sounds great to me! I'll be there with my party shoes on! lol...
tan.
- Original Message -
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:49 AM
Subject: RE: GFM Attendees (updated)
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL
Cotty, I too, will be flying out on the Monday - not sure of the exact time
yet though, and I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
of the hot water though!)
h, Georgetown, Washington - those Americans sure were inventive when
naming their towns lol...
tan.
-
Cotty said: Any and all all offers entertained :-)
h, you could be setting yourself up with that one there mate
fairygirl.
On 8 Dec 2003 at 8:55, mike wilson wrote:
Doesn't it come under the convention about cruel and unusual
punishment?
Probably. My problem is that if I travel half way around the world I can't
justify staying less than a month given that I can't write it off as a business
cost and the air-fares
TV (DC)
Annsan (NY)
Doug (KY)
Bill (NC)
Cesar (FL)
Mark (PA)
Rittenhouse (NC)
Cotty (ENG)
Stan (MO)
ERN (TX)
A lurker or 2
Jostein (NOR?)
Frank (CAN)
Adelheid (GER)
Tom Reese (?)
Desjardins (VA)
Jerome?
Doug Franklin?
Len?
Herb?
Cory Or Brenda?
Bruce?
Tanya?
Christian?
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
of the hot water though!)
There is a compromise here, modesty aside.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Rob Studdert wrote:
So it seems that most users who have adopted the *ist D and
previously had a functional SLR kit have ceased using film
and have been enticed to buy new lenses.
Interesting, thanks for the replies.
... all part of the grand design, I suppose. Another
I suspected that might be a possibility, so I kept my comments as polite as
possible...
;-)
cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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