Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

2007-01-21 Thread Francis
Kenneth Waller wrote: Congratulations Francis !!! Feels great doesn't it. Looks pretty nice to me. What were the entry requirements regarding the images? Yachting in general or?? They were quite loose, basically anything that a sailor might see while he's on the water. Cheers,

Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !? / by buy for now

2007-01-21 Thread Francis
Thanks every one! I'm un-subscribing for a bit while I'm travailing (just so you know I'm not ignoring you on purpose). Have a great time while I'm gone (and get over with all the K10d talk so when I come back I won't feel so under privileged. :-) Cheers, Francis www.islandlight.ca -- PDML

A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Hello All Since I am soon to receive my K10D, which will partly replace my *ist D, I guess a little statistics is in it's place. I had it for 29 months. I did 45000 shots I paid app.. 1180 USD incl. CF-cards, for it. That's the total cost - just about. That's in average 52 shots every day. Each

RE: Development: Was - Unemployed

2007-01-21 Thread Simon King
Thanks to all who commented. It really was just a grab shot - but then again I always try and make at least one camera reachable. Lighting and furniture compliments of this New York style apartment*. It a beautiful but truly child unfriendly place. Cheers, Simon *

money shot: Was - Development: and before that Was - Unemployed

2007-01-21 Thread Simon King
Hi Mark, That's a money shot if ever I saw one! Thanks, but I've always taken the money shot to be used in a rather more nefarious context (what can I say, I was young, I needed the money... ). :-) Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

2007-01-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I really like the shot too, sorry. :-). What did you do, climb out on that pole thing? Don't talk about Sylwek like that ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Development: Was - Unemployed

2007-01-21 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Or perhaps if you just like that sort of thing. (Had to say it before Cotty did...) Not so much like...more a 'need' ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Music and Portraits

2007-01-21 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: BBC seems fascinated with America. Fascinated with the world mate ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PAW 2007 - 03 - GDG

2007-01-21 Thread Cotty
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/03.htm Cable release or wireless remote? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Anyone heard from our friends in the Northern Europe?

2007-01-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks Cotty. So would you be the serious weather man or the goofy anchor side kick type? If I get the lottery win, I think it would be a close-run thing to go get a degree in either Meteorology or Biology. Hey, how about both. Otherwise,

RE: Music and Portraits

2007-01-21 Thread Simon King
America IS the world. Everywhere else is just tectonic plates with lumps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 7:54 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Music and Portraits On 20/1/07, graywolf,

RE: Music and Portraits

2007-01-21 Thread Simon King
Hey Cotty, Find the time, and do it now. Time as a way of slipping... BTW, if you get a chance try and have a look at the doc - it's remarkable, and most likely quite salient to plenty here. Will do. Do you get a nod in the credits? Simon On 1/21/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just

Re: Music and Portraits

2007-01-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/1/07, Simon King, discombobulated, unleashed: Will do. Do you get a nod in the credits? Sadly not. It's been 27 years since I worked for Auntie. I couldn't afford the drop in pay ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Wales redux

2007-01-21 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Mark, http://www.robertstech.com/wales.htm interesting and encouraging to plan a trip to Wales. Nos 16, 17 and 21 are my favorites. Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Macro stand setup

2007-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Cassino Subject: Re: Macro stand setup William Robb wrote: It's a bit overkill, but an enlarger chassis makes a great copy stand, and should be fairly inexpensive. Very interesting. I've always wanted a copy stand but it's never made it to the

RE: A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Small error: Cost pr image done with *ist D is of course only 0.04 USD. Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt

Does someone know how Shel is doing?

2007-01-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Subject line says it all. He has been absent for a week. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: PESO - Repose

2007-01-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Don't get any ideas, but this is art. Do you mind if I steal it for my computer desktop? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J and K Messervy Sent: 21. januar 2007 04:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W, You know AreTists, they are never bounded by measurements. :-) While you or I were taking hard sciences and math, they were taking...??? I have a quote from Lord Kelvin in my office. To paraphrase it: If you can't measure a thing, if you haven't put numbers to it, your knowledge

Re: Does someone know how Shel is doing?

2007-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As much as I know: He returned home two evenings ago and was feeling a little weak but otherwise ok. We exchanged emails the following morning. G On Jan 21, 2007, at 5:08 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Subject line says it all. He has been absent for a week. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations Bob W, You know AreTists, they are never bounded by measurements. :-) While you or I were taking hard sciences and math, they were taking...??? I have a quote from Lord

Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Oh yeah, from the guy who like a musician with 'perfect pitch', can color calibrate photo processing machines from memory. You may be an artist, but tell me again you don't measure anything. :-) Regards, Bob S. On 1/21/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message -

Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread David Savage
I try not to. It gets depressing ;-) Cheers, Dave On 1/21/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be an artist, but tell me again you don't measure anything. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: K10D ordered and paid!

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks Godfrey. I doubt it very much. For each face I will have perhaps 200x200 pixel. Most likely less. This Flickr set illustates my point: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594491741789/ I admit neither of these images are very good, but this is the choise of technolgy I have

PESO: One for Annsan

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/one_lane.jpg ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-21 Thread Christian
Jens Bladt wrote: If I had used film and my MZ-S this figuring would have been very different: I would have taken only 33 % of the number of shots = 15.000 shots I would have been able to use the camera for 29 more months before it got obsolete, reducing the cost of the camera to 50%.

Re: PESO: One for Annsan

2007-01-21 Thread David Savage
I'd look, but it's not for me. Cheers, Dave :-) On 1/22/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/one_lane.jpg ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: One for Annsan

2007-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 21, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/one_lane.jpg Good stuff! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Macro stand setup

2007-01-21 Thread Micah Kleit
Thanks to everyone for your terrific advice. I've posted infrequently, but I hope to actually post a photo one of these days, when I work up the nerve, and if these macro photos work out, I'll include one of them as part of a first bunch of photos. Thanks again, Micah On Jan 21, 2007, at

RE: Does someone know how Shel is doing?

2007-01-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you Godfrey. Good to hear. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 21. januar 2007 15:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Does someone know how Shel is doing? As

Re: Development: Was - Unemployed

2007-01-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Obviously designed and decorated by someone who's never been to New York, (but has visited IKEA). Simon King wrote: Thanks to all who commented. It really was just a grab shot - but then again I always try and make at least one camera reachable. Lighting and furniture compliments of this

Re: PESO: One for Annsan

2007-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Gee, I wonder what made you think of me? :) ann Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/one_lane.jpg ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

OT: Help! R2400 printing problem persists

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've checked all the variables numerous times, and to the best of my knowledge, they're correct. The color space of both the file and the working space is correct. I reinstalled the Epson print drivers. Still no luck. Here are my settings (PhotoShop CS): Settings: U.S. Prepress Defaults RGB

Re: OT: Help! R2400 printing problem persists

2007-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Paul, Your Photoshop color settings look fine. I don't have CS on my system anymore so I can't check the print settings in Print with Preview precisely, I don't remember all the differences between CS and CS2. This page shows how I make the settings for the Epson R2400 with CS2 ... note

RE: A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
52 shots avg. per DAY for 29 months? Thats a quite extreme a bit of shooting isnt it? Are you an everyday pro and what are you shooting that much OF? How do you even find time to shoot let alone post process that much photos for that long a time? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: OT: Help! R2400 printing problem persists

2007-01-21 Thread Jack Davis
Something I always un-check is the High Speed box found on the Advanced printing panel. (R1800) Didn't do so once and the results were disappointing. This is free!! Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've checked all the variables numerous times, and to the best of my

Re: OT: Help! R2400 printing problem persists

2007-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I haven't found this to make much difference on the R2400. I've run tests on the same print and the difference is only noticeable with very high frequency, A3 Super sized prints. G On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Something I always un-check is the High Speed box found on the

RE:Subject: OT: Help! R2400 printing problem persists

2007-01-21 Thread Fiso_Pentax
Hello Paul, I've checked all the variables numerous times, and to the best of my knowledge, they're correct. The color space of both the file and the working space is correct. I reinstalled the Epson print drivers. Still no luck. Here are my settings (PhotoShop CS): Try the printer out

Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy with either yet... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg K10D, 77 Ltd, ISO 400 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Rick Womer
Mark, Methinks it needs a wider tonal range. Rick --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy with either yet... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg K10D, 77 Ltd, ISO 400 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread Bob W
Bob W, You know AreTists, they are never bounded by measurements. :-) While you or I were taking hard sciences and math, they were taking...??? I have a quote from Lord Kelvin in my office. To paraphrase it: If you can't measure a thing, if you haven't put numbers to

Re: PESO: One for Annsan

2007-01-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Put a smile on my face - well named. -- Bruce Sunday, January 21, 2007, 7:06:48 AM, you wrote: MR http://www.robertstech.com/temp/one_lane.jpg MR ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 21 January 2007 13:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations Bob W, You know AreTists, they are never bounded by

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy with either yet... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg K10D, 77 Ltd, ISO 400 I like it, but it's a little dark overall. Also, a high frequency image like that

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Could also stand a not so tightly cropped view perhaps. -- Bruce Sunday, January 21, 2007, 9:54:29 AM, you wrote: RW Mark, RW Methinks it needs a wider tonal range. RW Rick RW --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy

Re: OT: Anyone heard from our friends in the Northern Europe?

2007-01-21 Thread graywolf
You mean like standing under the snow machine at a ski resort and talking about the blizzard that is hitting the area? Let's see, I think I still have my photo of the aftermath somewhere Yes, here it is: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Misc/Blizzard-of-05.jpg David Savage

PESO--Christmas lights

2007-01-21 Thread Rick Womer
A bit late, perhaps, but anyway: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458277 This is a photo of the same picturesque porch in Westchester NY that was the subject of an autumn PESO: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5242404 ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 3200, f/4 @ 1/20, RAW via ACR

Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
To me this question is not a religion - just at matter of choosing the right gear for the job. Well, I know Luminous Landscape says a Canon 1Ds does better than a scan from a Pentax 6x7. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/shootout.shtml But paper is patient. So are HTML-files. But what can

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Half of your examples are grossly underexposed. I'm guessing those are the digital samples. That makes the comparison irrelevant, because underexposure causes image degradation. Paul On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: To me this question is not a religion - just at matter of

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: Film vs. Digital - not a religion To me this question is not a religion - just at matter of choosing the right gear for the job. Well, I know Luminous Landscape says a Canon 1Ds does better than a scan from a Pentax 6x7.

Re: OT: Help! R2400 printing problem persists

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I will try the test print. I'm also going to try printing with colorsynch. But I'm beginning to suspect it's a printer problem. Good thing I still have the box. I've finished printing my wedding pics and was assembling the book yesterday. I want to reprint one or two shots. I was trying to

Re: PESO--Christmas lights

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
A different and pleasing interpretation of the subject. Paul On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Rick Womer wrote: A bit late, perhaps, but anyway: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458277 This is a photo of the same picturesque porch in Westchester NY that was the subject of an autumn

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I respect your depth of knowledge in regard to optical printing, but I have to say I've never seen an optical print that resolved as much detail as a superb scan. Of course most scans are not superb, and most optical prints are not perfectly executed. This, of course, makes the comparison

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread P. J. Alling
To start with, he's comparing the scanners capabilities to the direct digital capture more than the actual image on the film. I think I could easily skew a test into the 6x7 column by shooting a nice fine ISO 100 BW film and printing in a darkroom say an 11x14 print on a good paper with a

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Jack Davis
I completely agree. I've compared a number of images which were pro lab scanned and LightJet printed to prints which had been previously pro lab optically printed. In each case, the scanned image carried more fine detail. Didn't always require a loupe to determine either. Difference was great

Re: PESO - Repose

2007-01-21 Thread J and K Messervy
I've got no problem with that mate. James - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:37 AM Subject: RE: PESO - Repose Don't get any ideas, but this is art. Do you mind if I steal it for my

Re: See Ya - This is Crazy

2007-01-21 Thread Tom C
It's why JCO should be kicked off... and why, while the list should not be moderated, that there should be, at times, judicial use of cutting someone off. Tom C. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: PESO - What is that?

2007-01-21 Thread rg2
Thanks for your response. I love kiddos :o) I actually composed that one with a purposeful asymmetry, but I appreciate the feedback. rg2 - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:04 AM Subject:

RE: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
In stead of arguing this and that; show me your digital group images. Crop out one face covering 5-10% of the frame. Lets see and judging for ourselves. Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23

RE: GESO: McNaught at the beach

2007-01-21 Thread Tom C
Nice job David. I especially like the 1st and last in column 1. Tom C. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: GESO: McNaught at the beach Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:37:09 +0900 G'day All,

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
No, not really. Digital images of this sort must be underexposed, in order to avoid burned out highlights, to which thery are more prone than film images. regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45

Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W, Good for you! I love the focus group types, such warm and fuzzy thinking! Most of them don't even recognize the sign. Regards, Bob S. On 1/21/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan

Re: test

2007-01-21 Thread rg2
thanks very much for all the responses everyone. I appreciate your time :o) rg2 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:08 AM Subject: Re: test I do. rg2 wrote: if you receive this,

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, not really. That's a digital myth. Underexposure is the enemy of good digital photography On Jan 21, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: No, not really. Digital images of this sort must be underexposed, in order to avoid burned out highlights, to which thery are more prone than film

where to send the money?

2007-01-21 Thread cbwaters
Who has the best deal for a package of K10D, grip, kit lens, and a spare battery? I don't what to pay a bunch of shipping and mark-up, ya know? CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Dalal
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy with either yet... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg In terms of the tones, I probably would have done something like this:

Re: Epson R2400 problem

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Dalal
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've already made in the neighborhood of 100 prints with my Epson R2400. I'm using the same setup as described by Godders and others here -- Photoshop is determining color. All the prints matched my monitor perfectly. Until today. Suddenly, from one

Re: where to send the money?

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
BH is among the best on price. And they are absolutely the best on return policy and service. Paul On Jan 21, 2007, at 3:04 PM, cbwaters wrote: Who has the best deal for a package of K10D, grip, kit lens, and a spare battery? I don't what to pay a bunch of shipping and mark-up, ya know?

Re: Epson R2400 problem

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Mark, I'll try that. But I already replaced all of the cartridges. Paul On Jan 21, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Mark Dalal wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've already made in the neighborhood of 100 prints with my Epson R2400. I'm using the same setup as described by Godders and

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: Could also stand a not so tightly cropped view perhaps. The version on line is slightly cropped from the full image and actually works much better than the uncropped version. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy with either yet... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg K10D, 77 Ltd, ISO 400 I like it, but it's a little dark overall. I tried a few

Re: A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-21 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I hear ya Jens! I have had my DL for about 13 months, and shot ~2400 frames (only 6 shots per day :(, but I guarantee that I could not have afforded to shoot that much film. I never got into photography because I could not afford it, then one day I called a shop that had some DL's on 30% off:

RE: Music and Portraits

2007-01-21 Thread Simon King
Oops, my error - misread watching for working -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 10:42 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Music and Portraits On 21/1/07, Simon King, discombobulated, unleashed: Will do. Do

Found a new model over Christmas

2007-01-21 Thread Beaker
Happy New Year! I found a new model over Christmas. He adopted my parents, but he was getting under foot- an little orange trip hazard. Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Evan Hanson
My experience is more in line with what WR said. A great optical print beats even a drum scan. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Found a new model over Christmas

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well, let's see him. Paul On Jan 21, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Beaker wrote: Happy New Year! I found a new model over Christmas. He adopted my parents, but he was getting under foot- an little orange trip hazard. Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/01/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me this question is not a religion - just at matter of choosing the right gear for the job. Well, I know Luminous Landscape says a Canon 1Ds does better than a scan from a Pentax 6x7. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/shootout.shtml

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Cassino
Mark Roberts wrote: I've tried color and b/w versions of this one. Not completely happy with either yet... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg K10D, 77 Ltd, ISO 400 Hard to say, Mark. I htink I'm getting at what you are trying to convey here - the brooding deep ancient tree

Re: where to send the money?

2007-01-21 Thread Micah Kleit
Cameta has the whole package (this includes the kit lens, which I'm not sure you want) for $1099.95, which isn't a bad deal. I've dealt with Cameta before, as have a couple of friends, and they're not bad in the way of shipping and customer service, although I never had to return anything

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You've stated you are producing a group shot for the web, not for printing. You put a bunch of unexposed, crappily rendered JPEG clips up as comparison to your scanned and sharpened 6x7 clips, at double the size they'll appear compared to the illustration here: This one wasn done with a

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Film vs. Digital - not a religion In stead of arguing this and that; show me your digital group images. Crop out one face covering 5-10% of the frame. Lets see and judging for ourselves. I wouldn't consider shooting a group that

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Evan Hanson wrote: My experience is more in line with what WR said. A great optical print beats even a drum scan. I have found just the opposite to be true: I've rarely seen an optical print that can compare to a well-done scan and print. Oh, certainly the *resolution* and fine detail will

RE: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Jens Bladt
I must admit I haven't done much work to the digital files. I did sharpen them, though, but that didin't help much due the the low resolution. These crops were somthing like 100x100 pixel. That's not a lot, is it? Up rez'ing them wouldn't help either, I'm afriad. More exposure would perhaps have

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Cassino
I spent a lot of time trying to sort out the whole film vs digital thing. A lot of the things I worked through are on my blog, but this link sums up where I finally wound up: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php?title=stuff_per_pixelmore=1c=1tb=1pb=1 Medium format and certainly

A couple of woo-hoos

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Cassino
A couple bits of good news came this week. On Thursday I got word from one of stock agents that he had sold one of my snow crystals shots to the Sierra Club, for use in a future holiday greeting card. I knew he was working on it but it was great to see the deal close, and obviously it's an

Re: Another PESO from Florida

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Cassino wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/oldtree.jpg Definitely not an image that works well at web size - which of course means nothing since web size is the equivalent of a 4 x6 at best. I'd probably try to play with the tonal ranges to boost the contrast

Re: Peso - My own HDR

2007-01-21 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've a problem with this shot. There is this white glow or whatever is the term just above the roofs of the buildings. Then there is same white artifact around the tree branches on the far left. Could be this is some kind of HDR effect. Yet, it makes this photo

PESO -- Left all alone.

2007-01-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Sitting in the window of the local coffee shop, you occasionally see a bit of pathos. In this case a dog was left tied to a bench out in the cold while her owners went in for a cup. She stood around disconsolate until they stepped out of the door.

Re: where to send the money?

2007-01-21 Thread John Francis
Adorama are good, too. And I can (unfortunately) testify to their satisfactory return exchange service; my first AF-540 was defective (probably damaged in transit - I hate UPS), but I now have an exchange unit where the wide-angle adapter and catchlight reflector slide in and out properly. On

Re: Hello! (introduction)

2007-01-21 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction) You can never have too many lenses. That with or without aperture simulators? I don't differentiate. Do you integrate? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

PESO: two more

2007-01-21 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
One from Boulogne: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/7757564 and another one from Liège: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/extra/buddies/display/7752110 Enjoy. Comments and suggestions as always most welcome. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne,

RE: A couple of woo-hoos

2007-01-21 Thread Tom C
Congratulations Mark. Well deserved I'm sure. It's always gratifying to receive some 'official' recognition. Tom C. From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: A couple of woo-hoos Date: Sun, 21

Re: See Ya - This is Crazy

2007-01-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Maybe he should ask Doug for refund. g On 1/20/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wimp! :-) Dave On 1/21/07, W. Guy Finley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 11:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold,but worries remain (yet

Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion

2007-01-21 Thread Evan Hanson
As always Mark, you make a great point. On Jan 21, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Mark Cassino wrote: I spent a lot of time trying to sort out the whole film vs digital thing. A lot of the things I worked through are on my blog, but this link sums up where I finally wound up:

Re: Development: Was - Unemployed

2007-01-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/20/07, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it!

Re: Unemployed

2007-01-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/19/07, rg2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development,

Re: Praising K10D performance even with limitations

2007-01-21 Thread mike wilson
Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16300full=1 Please comment on the quality of light as I still want to learn more about this light billiard I've been playing yesterday with the diffuser and the flash. Happy anniversary. You could have worn a tie. [8-)))]

Re: A couple of woo-hoos

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Congratulaitions, Mark. You're snow flake shots are certainly worthy of wider exposure. The Krappy Kamera contest is an even bigger win. I've seen that show. It's excellent Paul Go Bears! On Jan 21, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Mark Cassino wrote: A couple bits of good news came this week. On

Re: A couple of woo-hoos

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
One more woo hoo. The Bears are going to the Super Bowl! I waited twenty-one years for this WOOO HOOO! Paul PS: Who doesn't care that his printer doesn't work for the moment. On Jan 21, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Mark Cassino wrote: A couple bits of good news came this week. On Thursday I got word

Re: PESO: two more

2007-01-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ralf, Good pictures, but not as good as your previous stuff. I wish there was a top corner to the building on the left in pix#1. The moving barge in #2 is distracting. Regards, Bob S. On 1/21/07, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One from Boulogne:

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