Re: GESO: Spiders and Snake

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> On 29 Apr 2024, at 09:00, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 29.04.24 um 09:24 schrieb Larry Colen:
>> Oh, and I think the snake might be a red diamond rattlesnake.
> 
> Does it make a difference?

Better taste in art and beer.

http://www.burton-on-trent.org.uk/category/miscellany/bass-logo

> 
> Ralf
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Re: Rediscovering the world's largest cormorant ...

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Beautiful plumage.

It’s a fascinating article, thanks for posting it.

Incidentally, it’s not extinct, merely pinin’ for the fjords. My understanding 
is that there is a breeding colony of them, descended from Genghis Khan’s 
flock, still living in a secret location not unadjacent to Ulan Bator, and 
everyone who buys one of the new Pentax film cameras will receive a free 
Spectacled* Cormorant**.

* Pentax glass only

** while stocks last


> On 21 Mar 2024, at 18:04, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> https://phys.org/news/2024-03-rediscovering-world-largest-cormorant.html
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Re: PESO: A strange looking bird

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Beautiful plumage!

> On 20 Mar 2024, at 12:53, Alan Cole  wrote:
> 
>  An African Snake Darter at Lake Panic, near Skukuza Camp, Kruger Park.
> Unfortunately back lit. These birds are closely related to Cormorants but
> swim with their bodies totally immersed giving the impression of a swimming
> snake. The second image (by a fellow photographer, Ian van Romburgh) shows
> that very well.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53599214819/
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51790648710/
> 
> K5 & Sigma 170-500 DG
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Re: VESO - my pics friend's guitar and why you haven't seen me i a while

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> On 19 Mar 2024, at 00:24, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> hope you kids like these.

Sure do.
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Re: March PUG is up

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Thanks. It’s a very good gallery.

> On 7 Mar 2024, at 10:03, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Enjoy the gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not 
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, 
> let me know.
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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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> On 5 Mar 2024, at 01:48, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I'd play with film more if I had a reliable place to get it processed.

I tried several UK labs a couple of years ago when I restarted with film. Most 
of them were disappointing but I have found two that provide a very good 
service. One of them is Harman Labs, who also have a lab in the US. You’ll have 
to Google it as the Pdml rejects it when I include the link.

They own and make Ilford film and processing chemicals. The labs use Refrema 
dip’n’dunk processing with their own Ilford chemicals, and it all seems very 
well controlled and consistent. My favourite film is Ilford Delta 100 and 400, 
so it’s a perfect match.

Over here they turn the stuff round pretty quickly. It takes about a week from 
me posting the freepost envelope to getting the scans, then another day or two 
to receiving the negs. There’s obviously some dependency on the postal service.

They always include another mailer when they return the negs. 

One of the other labs I use gives you the option of returning the negs in 
archival sleeves; Harman doesn’t offer this so I just resolve and file them 
when I get them back.

Shoot a few rolls and send them in, see what you think.
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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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> On 5 Mar 2024, at 07:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
> […]
> 
> My Fulvia's muffler 

> […]

If that’s not the start of a Frankie Howerd joke then I’m a Vestal Virgin.

https://youtu.be/SKphHvvvNSs?si=CZcXsrSOaB9lQmco
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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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> On 4 Mar 2024, at 15:42, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> It's not going to be a horizontal half frame, that would just be plain 
> silly. There were a couple of quick teasers in the video. Portrait format 
> like a 'phone camera. IMHO it will be standard film advance, but half a frame 
> at a time. It seems to me it will be like a digital compact with film 
> replacing the sensor. All controls will be electronic, nothing mechanical. 
> The lens could be anything. Auto mode will probably mostly rule supreme.
> 
> Alan C

He says in the video, as they have all along, that it will have a manual 
mechanical film advance. Same with the rewind. 

They also seem to be considering some sort of unconventional focusing method 
based on zone focusing, so I’m guessing at a click-stop mechanism possibly 
implemented as focus by wire rather than having all the gubbins needed for 
autofocus or for a real focus ring. 
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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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> On 4 Mar 2024, at 10:16, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> 
>> In the video he talks about using zone focusing on the camera.
> 
> The only times I ever see this term is when people describe the way the 
> Horizon panoramic camera is focussed or rather isn't. It has no focussing 
> control. Instead it's fix-focussed somehere mid-distance between here and 
> infinity and you have to stop down to get whatever you want to be sharp into 
> focus.

It’s a technique that was necessary before rangefinders were standard on 
cameras, and is still quite widely used by street photographers, using the 
hyperfocal distance to ensure maximum depth of field. 

Manual lenses are generally marked with the hyperfocal ranges for different 
f-stops.

Some, such as the thread-mount Leica 50mm Elmar that I have, use a mark to line 
up focus at 10ft/3m so you can be ready to snap à la sauvette. At f8 everything 
is in focus from 7.5 feet / 2.something metres to 15ft/4-5m. 

At 3m the vertical 35mm frame covers the height of a normal door - perfect for 
when you’re pouting into a mirror for a full-length selfie. It might be a bit 
different for a half-frame camera.

Old school paparazzi relied on this to get their flash-subject distance right. 
They set their cameras, focus and flashes in advance and pressed the button 
only when their target was positioned correctly in the finder. The human figure 
becomes the scale for all the camera settings, something I expect Le Corbusier 
would have approved of.


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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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> On 3 Mar 2024, at 17:45, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 03.03.24 um 18:29 schrieb Bill:
>> I was quite surprised that it is a vertical half frame, but the logic behind 
>> that decision is that a vertical format is what the target market is already 
>> comfortable with.
> 
> Making it a horizontal half frame would mean transporting the film from top 
> to bottom and a very odd shape of the camera.

[…]

Actually it would be the same shape but in a different orientation. I’m not a 
mechanical engineer so I might be completely wrong, but if you put the film 
advance on the new top of the camera it would perhaps need only one more gear 
to deal with the change of orientation. The rewind crank doesn’t need to be on 
the new top.

Making the camera square would do away with that. In fact using a square 
negative 24x24 would give you 54 frames per roll.

A lot of people now like to see the sprocket holes in the picture, postmodernly 
drawing attention to it being film, so making the frame mask switchable might 
be an interesting option.

In the video he talks about using zone focusing on the camera. I wonder if he 
means click-stops on the focus ring, or perhaps on a dial, with symbols for the 
type of shot, eg headshot, head and shoulders, cowboy, full-length, group/wide 
shot, landscape etc. That could also be used to determine the exposure settings 
in conjunction with the orientation of the camera, favouring a larger aperture 
for closer portraits to increase background blur, and a smaller aperture for 
wider shots using the hyperfocal distance to give the greatest depth of field.

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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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> Am I missing something here?

Yes. You’re not part of the target market. It’s aimed at young people who are 
using it for fun.

> On 3 Mar 2024, at 15:07, Comcast  wrote:
> 
> As a medium, film suffers in comparison to digital in that it is less 
> capable of low light reproduction and when pushed, image quality drops 
> precipitously. The solution has always been larger formats. My best film work 
> was generally on 6x7 or 6x6 film. Half a f a 35 mm frame has no appeal 
> whatsoever. Am I missing something here?
> Paul
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2024, at 4:01 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>> 
>> More news on the Pentax film camera:
>> https://youtu.be/xqRQTOkhOJU?si=PssAjafiIoYaxbuW
>> 
>> As for me, with a least a dozen film camera's accumulating dust on the shelf 
>> is not fair to these to invest in a new one.
>> 
>> Henk
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Re: Soul cam?

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It’s larger than 4/3rds. Almost the same as APS-C, but the wrong way up, so a 
return to the original 35mm movie format.

> On 2 Mar 2024, at 22:55, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> So, they developed a micro 4/3 film cell phone camera.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> Some of you may have already seen the recent updates about the forthcoming 
>> Pentax film camera, which sounds interesting and unusual.
>> 
>> There’s an article here
>> https://silvergrainclassics.com/en/2024/03/new-pentax-camera-will-be-half-frame-available-summer-24/
>> 
>> which links to this video:
>> https://youtu.be/xqRQTOkhOJU?si=E3xBE2-ZQcv5SoYV
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Soul cam?

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Some of you may have already seen the recent updates about the forthcoming 
Pentax film camera, which sounds interesting and unusual.

There’s an article here
https://silvergrainclassics.com/en/2024/03/new-pentax-camera-will-be-half-frame-available-summer-24/

which links to this video:
https://youtu.be/xqRQTOkhOJU?si=E3xBE2-ZQcv5SoYV
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Re: Problems reading SD cards

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If you put the cards back in the camera can you still see all the photos in 
preview?

Can you use the camera as the card reader? That is, connect the camera to the 
computer and download from there.

Can you download to a non-Windows device, such as a phone?

> On 22 Feb 2024, at 20:39, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I don't think it's Adobe because I had problems just copying using Windoze 
> with Adobe not involved ...
> 
> I HOPE it's not the computer because I don't know how I'd transfer CS6 to a 
> new computer.
> 
> It could be the card reader is getting old. I looked online for a new reader, 
> but haven't yet found one I like.
> 
> I found a bunch more files I have to rename to get my catalog in order.
> 
> Don't know if I'm going to get them done before I shut the computer down to 
> clean it out.
> 
>> On 2/22/2024 1:33 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> Unlikely to be the cards if you are getting exactly the same error on all 
>> three.  My default position is to blame Adobe, which seems to have a more 
>> than 50% success rate.  For hardware problems, I would look at the card 
>> reader.
 On 22/02/2024 00:54 GMT John Sessoms  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I spent today doing some maintenance on my photography - making sure I
>>> have all of my images copied off of the memory cards onto the computer &
>>> batch renaming by Camera Type & Sequence Number ... so that IMGP5432
>>> from the K-2 becomes K3-05432
>>> 
>>> Part of the reason for this is the default for Pentax Raw files is
>>> "IMGP" and a couple of my cameras have rolled over past  and the
>>> K-1 numbering was reset when I had to send it in for repair after I fell
>>> & yanked the screen off the back.
>>> 
>>> So it's K10D-1, K20D-0, K-3-0 & K-1-1 ... I pretty much
>>> kept up with it WHILE I was downloading images from the camera up until
>>> Covid (when I got lazy and sometimes wouldn't download the images for
>>> months after I took them)
>>> 
>>> ANYWAY - The K-3 has been giving me fits downloading images today. Adobe
>>> Bridge "get media" seems to fail after pulling down about 8 images. I'm
>>> having the same problem directly copying from the card to the computer -
>>> 8 images & an error.
>>> 
>>> When the error comes Windoze says the DCIM folder is empty & can't even
>>> see the card to eject it. If I just pull the card reader out & plug it
>>> in again the sub-folders are still there in DCIM and I can go into the
>>> sub-folder and copy images manually ... but if I select more than 8 at a
>>> time it's going to have the same error copying.
>>> 
>>> If I just select 8 images they seem to copy fine and then I can select 8
>>> more and they'll copy, but rarely works for a third batch of 8. Repeat
>>> remove & reinsert & select the next 8 ...
>>> 
>>> I only had the problem with the K-3 cards - 2-32GB Sandisk Extreme SDHC
>>> and 1-32GB Sandisk Ultra SDXC.
>>> 
>>> I'm pretty sure I only lost a single image to corruption. Sucks, but at
>>> least it's not worse. I copied all the images over to my file server.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if it's the camera, the cards, the card reader or the
>>> computer. I hope it's not the computer because it's Windows 7 &
>>> Photoshop CS6 Extended (which I don't think will run on Windoze 10 &
>>> Windoze 10 definitely would not install on this computer (I shall not
>>> repeat my previous rant about the attempt to install Windows 10 ...)
>>> 
>>> I'll shut the Photoshop computer down tomorrow, open it up & give it a
>>> good cleaning inside & see where we go from here.
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Re: PESO Leci n'est pas une Magritte

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> On 11 Feb 2024, at 09:18, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 11.02.24 um 03:44 schrieb Larry Colen:
>> Sometimes my sense of humor amuses me
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53521668513/in/album-72177720314703860/
> 
> Great and well seen.
> 
> Here's one I did, years ago:
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/magritte-meets-code-de-la-route-fotoralfbe/46076093
> 
> The sign says "Attention. This isn't a roundabout".

Here’s one I did many years ago in St-Germain-des-Prés, called Ceci est-elle 
une pipe?

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Re: February PUG is up

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> On 10 Feb 2024, at 12:27, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 10.02.24 um 13:14 schrieb Alan C:
>> The "Cow" fooled me too.
> A hybrid? The first step to what the Germans call an egg-laying wool-milk-sow?

I wonder what its pronouns are. Sheep, ewe, herd? 

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Re: PESO, scratching that itch

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I’d be tempted to make a gallery of them and call it Larry Burros…

https://www.icp.org/browse/archive/constituents/larry-burrows?all/all/all/all/0

> On 5 Feb 2024, at 19:22, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> On my bike ride Saturday I crossed paths with some of the local burros
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53508970487/in/album-72177720314572830/
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

> On 5 Feb 2024, at 15:49, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.
> 
> Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE
> 
> Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>> On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
>> imac M3.
>> I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
>> I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
>> flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
>> the ball in my finger.
>> I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
>> but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,
>> 
>> I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
>> locate the buttons or links needed todo so.
>> 
>> Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,
>> 
>> Dave .
>> 
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Re: Reprocessing an old file in lightroom

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> On 5 Feb 2024, at 06:08, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> […]
> With AI & Elon Musk's brain implants we may eventually be able to recover 
> anything we have ever seen directly from our brains!?
> 

That’ll keep the psychiatric industry going for a while. Maybe even longer than 
Larry’s excellent lighthouse, which should be a compulsory feature in every 
shrink’s office. 
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P30?

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https://www.instagram.com/p/C24TyRFNwjY/?igsh=MXJkcTNnd3VlMTBkOQ==
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Re: Pentax APS-C cameras

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> On 26 Jan 2024, at 20:00, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I have a hard time even remembering to "Spring Forward/Fall Back" ... the 
> "fall back" part isn't that big of a problem, but the week after "spring 
> forward" I'd be late for my own hanging.

It seems to me that that would be a good thing…


> 
> What I've got is I got the *ist-D early in 2004 and set the time to "New 
> York" (aka Eastern US time zone) and shipped out to Iraq a couple of weeks 
> later.
> 
> I didn't notice the time zone setting until I'd been in country for several 
> months. And after I did notice, I was back home for several months before I 
> noticed the camera was still on "Moscow" time (Iraq time zone)
> 
> So I've got more than a year's worth of photos where the time is off by 12 
> hours. It's not a world shaking problem, but it BUGS ME - like ALWAYS being 
> pursued by a cloud of mosquitos. Low level irritation, but constant and 
> forever.
> 
> Whenever I've tried to fix it in post it ends up screwing with the DATE 
> (trying to change Date Taken to the current computer date/time).
> 
> To a lesser extent I've had the same "problems" with the K10D, K20D, K-3 & 
> the K-1.
> 
> A camera that could automagically determine the local time zone & keep the 
> internal clock updated would suit me just fine. My cell phone can do it, why 
> can't my camera?
> 
> I use the cell phone camera occasionally, but I like my DSLRs more. I 
> couldn't have done the eclipse on my cell phone.
> 

I don’t know what date/time format standard the metadata is supposed to use, 
but it really ought* to be in ISO format, which (optionally) includes the 
offset from UTC. This would make your task quite straightforward using the 
method Mark suggested. The thing to be careful about, if you were writing some 
sort of macro to make the change rather than relying on a trusted routine from 
elsewhere, is when the offset takes you forward or back to a different date. 
For example, time showing as 11am on 1 March, subtract 12 hours - was it a leap 
year? Make sure you have a backup!

*a well-designed system would distinguish between the format of the stored date 
time (I would usually use ISO), and the format of the displayed date time, so 
years later when looking at your photos in the comfort of Badiddlyboing, 
Odawidaho you ask yourself, what the hell time was it in Ulan Bator when I made 
this masterpiece? It can tell you without having to change any of your data.

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Re: Pentax APS-C cameras

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> On 23 Jan 2024, at 01:54, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm. I like to keep the camera's date setting current, but rarely ever look 
> at the time my cameras are set to.
> I order things in LR by frame number, not by time, and only very very 
> occasionally use more than one camera at a time, so it's rarely an issue.
> 
> If I do have two cameras output (iphone and m10m, or m10m and m10r), since I 
> don't shoot all that many frames in a session on average, I can usually 
> integrate all the photos together in the right sequence and then rename them 
> into an ordinal sequence, if that seems important. I can also set the capture 
> times into an ordinal range that way.
> 
> Most of the time, I don't worry about time and date very much. Once I've 
> rendered my photos and put together a set to display, whatever order they are 
> in is what I choose, not what the frame numbering or the time/date sequence 
> are.
> 
> Life is sure simpler in the Polaroid instant film world where a pack of film 
> has only eight exposures and I can remember exactly what sequence I shot them 
> in… :D

There’s a lot to be said for that!

I’ve just discovered that the Visoflex 020 has a GPS. So attached to my M10M, 
and after changing a couple of settings in the menu, it can pluck the date and 
time from out of the sky!

As far as I can tell it uses local time, but as I’m in the UTC time zone it’s 
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Re: Pentax APS-C cameras

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> On 23 Jan 2024, at 13:30, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> […]
> I'll have to think about changing over to UTC.
> 
> At least then ALL of the times will be "WRONG", rather than just blocks of 
> them.
> 

It doesn’t have to be UTC of course - it could be any time you choose as the 
reference time, eg the time in your home town, or in Ulan Batar, as long as all 
the cameras have the same time. It’s not like you look at the camera to tell 
the time in whatever non-home timezone you may find yourself, you have a watch 
for that, presumably.



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Re: Pentax APS-C cameras

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> On 22 Jan 2024, at 21:36, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Can it reset the clock to LOCAL time?
> 
> That's the biggest problem I have with the clock - traveling to a different 
> time zone and forgetting to set the camera's clock to the correct time zone, 
> i.e. I have the camera set to "New York" (because it doesn't have a setting 
> for "Eastern" time or "Raleigh, NC" and I'm in Albuquerque ... or halfway 
> round the world, so the clock may be off anywhere 2 to 12 hours.
> 

I’d expect the satellites to transmit UTC. Local time is a function of UTC and 
the time zone offset and savings time, derived from the GPS coordinates. 

If I were you I’d set all my cameras to UTC, then you shouldn’t have any 
problems merging image files from different cameras and getting the date/time 
sorting all stuffed up. 

Then photograph a town name from time to time so you have an embedded record of 
where you were. Modern operating systems can recognise and select text in image 
files, so you can copy and paste it into the metadata if you want to.

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Re: Pentax APS-C cameras

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I can see the value of it even if it’s something that I don’t have much need 
for personally.

To me it would be quite useful sometimes for a camera to connect automatically 
(ie without all the ridiculous faff of camera WiFi connections) using Bluetooth 
or Ant+ or something similar to external devices which have GPS, such as a 
phone, smartwatch or Garmin bike device. So when you press the shutter it can 
just write the current position and time into the image file. I imagine that 
would be less of a drain on the battery than keeping a built-in GPS active.

> On 21 Jan 2024, at 23:08, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> S … All this discussion of GPS equipped cameras … I'm curious: Why do we 
> need GPS location information in our photographs?
> 
> Oh, I can see some uses for it, for specific purposes, but in general … I 
> don't know why I'd want it.
> I figure when I want GPS location info, I just snap a photo with my iPhone at 
> the same time I take a picture with any other camera, then copy-paste the GPS 
> location information from the iPhone image into the other camera's photo. I 
> haven't used it more than once or twice in the past ten years.
> 
> G
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Re: January PUG is up

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Alan’s reminds me of a Larson cartoon which has the caption ‘bummer of a 
birthmark, Hal’.

Good gallery all round!

> On 8 Jan 2024, at 10:25, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Enjoy the gallery here:
> 
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> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Alan's submission is an innovative interpretation of the theme 
> 
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Re: OT maps help

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You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop on 
the … menu. 

You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list. 

As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t see 
> a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route, Maps 
> quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for planning, I 
> seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options offered up.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
>> for me so here his my questions,
>> 
>> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
>> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
>> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
>> generation iPhone 12 mini
>> 
>> Any ideas
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: wishlist items

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> On 6 Dec 2023, at 05:51, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2023, at 8:50 PM, Alan Cole  wrote:
>> 
>> Go for one of these:
>> 
>> https://aas.org/files/cfht_star_trails.jpg
>> 
>> Alan C
> 
> If I could have that, I'd rather have this
> https://i.insider.com/60d0e3c9db3f80001848d09f?width=1000=jpeg=webp
> 

It looks like something Cotty could make with a tin can, a toilet roll and some 
aluminium foil.
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Elliott Erwitt

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has died, unfortunately. I met him once after a fascinating and very amusing 
talk he gave at the National Portrait Gallery in London. He very generously 
signed a copy of his book Manwatching for me - in Russian - I’d brought it 
along hoping he’d do that for me so I could give it to a Russian friend. 

His photos have always been an inspiration. Today I happened to be at the Leica 
Gallery in London for the Emily Garthwaite exhibition. Just before I left I 
noticed someone else, who had been drooling at Leicas, leave then immediately 
come back in. As far as I could tell he’d caught sight of something he couldn’t 
understand and needed to check. It was Erwitt’s photo of a man in NYC with the 
head of a bulldog, and he left again with his shoulders heaving with laughter. 

https://www.magnumphotos.com/theory-and-practice/elliot-erwitt-bulldog-contact-sheet-print/

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Re: The unending quest

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Divide and conquer. You’re talking about three different situations, storage, 
transport and shooting. 

For storage I divide everything by system: Pentax, Leica and MFT, and generic 
accessories. Each gets its own case; I use a Pelican hard case and two Vanguard 
soft cases with dividers, and a variety of Domke bags as well as inserts from 
Topo Designs, Crumpler and Artist and Artisan. Any kind of bag with suitable 
dividers or inserts would be ok.

For travel I generally decant what I need either directly into a Domke bag, or 
into an insert and some other non-camera bag. I’d use the Pelican, with 
padlocks, for any travel where I needed some security. Some of the inserts fit 
nicely into a handlebar bag for my bike; they can also go into a backpack or 
suitcase, or a larger travel camera bag.

For shooting I normally work from shoulder bags; I don’t like using a backpack, 
but the principle of divide and conquer holds either way. This generally 
involves further decanting a subset of the kit to match whatever I want to 
photograph into an insert and/or a shoulder bag. I used a Domke F-2 for many 
years*, and I still have it, but it holds more than I want to carry. If I find 
myself thinking of using it, it means I’m taking too much, so I think again and 
take less stuff in a smaller bag. 

Fanny packs/bum bags - just say no. A more versatile option is to use a belt, 
worn like a tool belt or a gunslinger’s gun belt, with pouches that you can 
swap and change according to need. I have a Domke webbing belt and a couple of 
pouches, although in all honesty I’ve never used them. Don’t know if you can 
still buy them but one of the other manufacturers will make something similar. 
Lowepro had something similar in the Street & Field range.

*When I was travelling quite a lot in the 90s I packed my clothes and most 
other stuff, including film, in the Pelican and it went into the hold of 
aircraft or buses. I packed one change of clothes and all my camera kit into 
the F-2 and it came with me as carry-on. When I was at the hotel or on a train, 
especially a sleeper, most of the camera kit would go into the Pelican, which I 
could lock and attach to something, and I’d keep a small working kit with me.

It’s ok to travel light. This is from ‘American Geography’ by Matt Black of 
Magnum:

“I’m catching the 11pm train from Fresno to Calexico, 438 miles, 10 hours. One 
backpack with one pair of pants, one long-sleeved shirt, one T-shirt, jacket, 
hat, four pairs of socks. Panasonic camera, XPan camera, six lenses, thirty 
rolls of film. From Calexico, I’ll take the bus cross-country, to Bangor, 
Maine, and back. It’s 3,317 miles, one way. About six weeks.”

https://www.mattblack.com/american-geography
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Re: PESO: Hélène

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Lunched a thousand chips, I think.

> On 20 Nov 2023, at 21:54, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> It's a lovely photo.  Is it a reference to "launching a thousand ships"?
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 12:21 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> Very Clever!
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>>> On 20-Nov-23 01:30 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> ...on her favourite bollard in the port of Boulogne. There, she has
>>> everything in sight, especially the chip shop on the other side, just in
>>> case somehone might drop something.
>>> 
>>> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/helene-fotoralfbe/47872402
>>> 
>>> Enjoy
>>> Ralf
>>> 
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>>> Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
>>> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
>>> Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012
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Re: A big day for the official bird

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Hi Ann, 

yes, I received the calendars email .

Sorry to everyone about the bird link - the world seems determined to duck up 
the internet in every way they can and drive people onto closed platforms.

B

> On 8 Nov 2023, at 16:42, ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
> 
> I couldn't even follow the link.. but then my email is screwed up
> anyway..I'm having to deal with thunderbird issues.. I can send from
> my thunderbird but cant download to my computer I'm writing this from
> the webmail site ..
> Bob , hope you post this to the PDML facebook page :-)
> In other news.. did the announcement about my CALENDARS in a group
> email get through to PDML yesterday? or to any of you that were in
> that list I mailed to through Thunderbird?
> ann
> 
>-From: "Stanley Halpin"
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday November 8 2023 9:53:08AM
> Subject: Re: A big day for the official bird
> 
> Nice to see The Bird given such recognition!
> I actually prefer the runner-up Nuthatch, but they neglected to ask
> for my opinion.
> 
> Note to others trying to see these images: After I followed the link
> in Bob’s note, I had to affirm several times that I am human and
> was
> connecting from a secure site in order to be able to open the page,
> but eventually got through.
> 
> Stan
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 9:43 AM, Bob W PDML wrote:
>> 
>> 
> https://sussexwildlifetrust.org.uk/news/early-bird-wins-sussex-wildlife-trust-photo-competition
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A big day for the official bird

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https://sussexwildlifetrust.org.uk/news/early-bird-wins-sussex-wildlife-trust-photo-competition
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Re: PESO: mushroom time!

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Very beautiful, and very skilful, photos.

> On 17 Oct 2023, at 08:25, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> It is hard work at present to catch up with the variety of mushrooms
> shooting out of the ground.
> Here are just a few results of my efforts:
> https://flic.kr/p/2p8nGqi
> https://flic.kr/p/2p9cyf9
> https://flic.kr/p/2p8CeML
> 
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Re: On the Road Again ...

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Bonne route!

> On 7 Oct 2023, at 00:52, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I've made reservations. Confirmed reservations.
> 
> I intend to be in Albuquerque a week from Saturday (14 Oct)
> 
> ... and this time I've ALREADY made sure I have the instructions in the glove 
> box. Put a copy in there a few minutes ago.
> 
> After that? Maybe I should turn left or something ... I'm sure I can find 
> SOMETHING out there worth taking a photo of.
> 
> Also, already double checking cameras, tripods, astro-tracker ... charging up 
> batteries in advance, cleaning lenses ... made damn sure I have my filters.
> 
> Double checked what time the clinics at the VA open so I can stop by there on 
> the way out of town & get my flu shot and Covid booster.
> 
> On the road again,
> Just can't wait to get on the road again,
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Re: PESO 2023 - Walking (262-268) - GDG

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There’s nothing to photograph in France. What parts will you be visiting?

> On 4 Oct 2023, at 23:11, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been feeling a bit photographically restless lately, too.
> 
> Shortly we’re going to be taking a trip to France (first “real” trip since 
> before the pandemic), and that could shake some inspiration loose.
> 
> Rick
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Re: Good find today (not Pentax)

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> On 29 Sep 2023, at 00:52, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> […] I don't even think the hole is still there in the wall. […]

I looked on street view- the hole’s still there, but the wall has gone. It 
looks a bit like Blackburn, Lancashire.
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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

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It’s been a bad few years for a lot of people, I’m sorry to hear it’s been your 
turn. I hope you’re not too badly affected personally by it.

I agree with Larry’s comment about ghoulishness.

Bon courage.

> On 17 Sep 2023, at 07:31, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds from the 
> west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly got of control, 
> jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & setting several thatched 
> roofed houses on fire including the iconic Elegant Guest House. All available 
> local firefighting services from the town fire brigade & mines were on the 
> scene &  a firefighting helicopter was brought in from Tzaneen but It still 
> took 10 hours to bring the fire under control. 12 houses were totally 
> destroyed & others damaged but fortunately there was no loss of life. By far 
> the worst disaster in Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much 
> cooler today but the air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be 
> ghoulish to take photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.
> 
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Re: PESO: Some shots just after dawn

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Superb, especially the third.

> On 15 Sep 2023, at 20:17, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Sun is rising here now just after 7 o'clock. Last week I decided to get out
> of my bed early to shoot some sunrises because some fog was predicted.
> It was a pleasant experience as I ended up with a few shots of roe deer in
> the morning light:
> https://flic.kr/p/2p1tBMy
> https://flic.kr/p/2p1sjQm
> https://flic.kr/p/2p1uzcn
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Re: GESO - Mercer Museum

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> On 9 Sep 2023, at 20:20, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2023 at 06:45:09PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> Am 09.09.23 um 18:16 schrieb Rick Womer:
>>> Yesterday we took a trip to Doylestown, a well-preserved town incorporated 
>>> in 1838, about an hour west of Philly.
>> 
>> A most peculiar place indeed.
>> 
>> What do you call the guy in the third and fifth photo? It would be a
>> Kasper in German or a Guignol in French.
>> 
>> Ralf
> 
> In the U.K. that would most often be identified as "Mr Punch"
> (from "Punch & Judy" puppet shows, and also featuring on the
> masthead of "Punch" magazine)
> --
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He is based on the character of Pulcinella from the Italian Commedia dell’arte. 
His profile is said to be derived from that of the Emperor Vespasian, as seen 
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Re: PANO: East & West Bankers

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What was it that Kipling wrote? “Oh, East is East, and West is West, and ne’er 
the trunks shall meet”.

> On 6 Sep 2023, at 16:53, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Alan - nice image! 
> But, just idle curiosity… Since you merged the images for a pano, will this 
> inspire the two herds to merge as well? Or are they determined to remain 
> separate from one another??
> 
> Stan
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> As you may have gathered from previous posts, there are several smallish 
>> herds of Elephants in the area of Sable Dam in the Kruger Park about 15Km 
>> from Phalaborwa primarily because it is the only permanent water in the 
>> area. It is accessed by many other species too. It is big enough to last 
>> through the dry season until the next rains. On Saturday, I was sitting in 
>> my car at the North end when 2 herds arrived simultaneously on opposite 
>> sides to drink. I took 5 shots to make a Pano.
>> 
>> Now, frames 2 & 3 wouldn't merge so my first effort was two shorter Panos 
>> combined into a strip. Yesterday I examined the corresponding edges of the 
>> offending frames & could not understand why they wouldn't merge. I cropped 
>> thin slivers from each which then merged so I tried again using the original 
>> 5 & the newly created one - success!
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53168126899/
>> 
>> K5 & HD 55-300 WR
>> 
>> Alan C
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Re: September PUG is up

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Very impressive. Probably the best I’ve seen in the year or so I’ve been 
contributing.

A small note for John Coyle - I think that’s Knaresborough, North Yorkshire, 
rather than Hebden Bridge. I know both towns quite well.


> On 4 Sep 2023, at 10:12, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: Uxbridge fall walk

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Lots of nice stuff there. 

> On 3 Sep 2023, at 15:05, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Happy Labour day weekend all, Labor for my USA friends lol
> 
> From a recent walk, we do this trail system 4-5 times a year to get the
> changes in seasons and flowers etc
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge3/album/index.html
> 
> D7200, Nikon 28-400 some LR 6 adjustments
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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> On 29 Aug 2023, at 17:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> 
>> Just found this series of photos by one Josh Edgoose in today's online
>> edition of The Guardian and thought Bob W and a few others might like them:
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/aug/29/like-an-alien-world-the-banks-of-the-river-thames-and-beyond-in-pictures
> 
> At first glance, I thought the bloke in the kayak (second photo) was
> Bob W!
> 

As a master of fact, I did too. Was struggling to remember when I ever kayaked 
there. Or anywhere else, for that matter!
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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> On 29 Aug 2023, at 14:52, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 29.08.23 um 13:16 schrieb Bob W PDML:
> 
>> There’s a lot of money around there.
> 
> So, let everybody have enough money and the world will be a nicer place.
> 
> Ralf
> 
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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> On 29 Aug 2023, at 12:11, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 29.08.23 um 13:01 schrieb Bob W PDML:
> 
>> The people tend to be wealthy, artistically inclined, secure and confident 
>> enough not to be wary of the camera but to be aware of photography and often 
>> to play up to it.
> 
> Sounds like a street photographers paradise while the rest of the world
> becomes more hellish every day.

There’s a lot of money around there.
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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Thanks - superb photos, he has a great eye. I know some of those areas well and 
they attract a certain kind of mild eccentricity which is very photogenic.

The people tend to be wealthy, artistically inclined, secure and confident 
enough not to be wary of the camera but to be aware of photography and often to 
play up to it.

> On 29 Aug 2023, at 11:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Just found this series of photos by one Josh Edgoose in today's online
> edition of The Guardian and thought Bob W and a few others might like them:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/aug/29/like-an-alien-world-the-banks-of-the-river-thames-and-beyond-in-pictures
> 
> Ralf
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Re: Australia - Brisbane and Perth

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I remember overhearing a couple of young Aussies in Greenwich once: “jeez, I 
can’t wait to get back, I’m sick to death of old buildings”. Must have been 
from Perth. I have distant relatives in Perth. Of course, anyone in Perth is 
distant, but you know what I mean.

I’d recommend somewhere in Melbourne but I left in 1958 so my recommendation 
wouldn’t extend much beyond the maternity ward. Which was great, by the way.


> On 15 Aug 2023, at 08:19, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> From the one Perther on the board:
> "Don't know about B film. Perth is amazingly unphotogenic. It is not a city 
> of great character or charisma. Fremantle is way more interesting, and 
> perhaps it qualifies, seeing that it is more or less attached to Perth. There 
> is an amazing lack of interesting architecture in Perth. Fremantle has the 
> convict era stuff which has merit. I can't think of any particular advice I 
> could offer anyone, but am happy if you want to put your friend in touch.
> 
> Somewhere back in the Tag thread I may have put up some pics of the old 
> railway workshops and brickworks, all of which are being preserved. I find 
> "industrial archeology" to be of photogenic significance, but with almost 
> everything being less than 200 years old, there's not a lot of choice. 
> There's an awful lot of concrete and corrugated iron here, and some bizarre 
> recent modernistic footbridges and stadiums that attract attention by 
> controversy rather than merit."
> 
> Do you want me to pass your email over?
> 
>> On 12/08/2023 08:15 pkn291...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I am planning a trip to Australia end of October. It is a family visit trip
>> so not much photography time other than family photo's. Any suggestions of
>> places to visit in two area's and surroundings if I get a chance? Any places
>> where I can buy black and white film or should I take enough with me. Will
>> probably take the K3 and a mz5n.
>> 
>> Thanks for any input
>> 
>> Patrick
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Re: Photos from Colorado

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Nice. Looks quite Mediterranean.

> On 15 Aug 2023, at 16:52, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Not content with the UK and Austria trips that are bookending our
> summer, the Dr and I went to visit some friends in  Colorado for a
> week. Here are a few snaps:
> https://flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/albums/72177720310376906
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Re: LrC and travel

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> On 26 Jul 2023, at 22:20, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> […]
> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my 
> backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.

Then you can’t use LR CC, simple as that. You’ll need to find something else to 
edit and render your photos on the move.

> 
> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used 
> the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, 
> shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, 
> tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from 
> SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound 
> up with a confusing mess. 

You could make the argument that software developers should support the actual 
processes that people want to use, and many of them do a lot of ethnographic 
research to support that. However there’s always going to be a limit to what 
can be done. 

With LR I’ve tried to understand the process they support, and use that, the 
line of least resistance, rather than try to force it to do things my way. 
Again, there’s a limit and if software is too different from my approach I 
don’t use it.

In the case you’ve outlined I’d import everything from the SD card into LR on 
my phone or iPad and do whatever work I need there. Back at home I’d just let 
it sync with the classic version on the desktop in the way Adobe designed it 
rather than try to import into the desktop version from the storage devices and 
merging as you’ve described.

The second half of this link, which I’ve mangled to try and bypass the PDML’s 
guard dogs, has an explanation. 

< helpx.adobe.com/uk/

 lightroom-classic/how-to/sync-photos-lightroom-mobile.html > 

> 
> The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or 
> usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated 
> to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it 
> another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on 
> this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant 
> attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
> 
> Stan
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Re: LrC and travel

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> 
> Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally 
> different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped 
> internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in 
> Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world.

This is rather a caricature. Storing it in the cloud does not mean sharing it 
with the world. 

Storing things in the cloud is a perfectly reasonable off-site backup. And 
since it’s so easy and convenient to have everything available from each 
device, instead of being the backup it’s perfectly reasonable for it to be the 
primary storage, and for people to use something like LR Classic’s device 
storage as the backup in case Adobe’s one, never-backed-up, wobbly old PC has a 
head crash (I can do caricatures too!).

LR Mobile caches everything locally before it tries to sync it to the cloud, so 
if you have no internet connection, or a slow or wobbly one, you’re not losing 
anything and it will trickle-feed it as and when it can. 

If I were travelling somewhere very, very remote for any length of time I’d 
back the SD cards up to a separate storage device, and keep the images on the 
SD cards, as well as importing them into LR Mobile. I’ve never needed this sort 
of belt & braces approach in Europe.

The downside of the mobile version, to me, is that it doesn’t have some of the 
useful functionality of the classic version, but it’s functionality I don’t 
usually need when I’m travelling.

> On 26 Jul 2023, at 20:36, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> I use a MacBook Pro, at home and when traveling. I use Lightroom Classic. I 
> seldom need or intentionally use Adobe’s cloud synch features.
> On my upcoming trip I will try using LR Mobile on my iPad (and leave my 
> laptop home) and so there are some aspects of that app that will not work if 
> it is not actively on the net. But mostly I will have internet access turned 
> off. 
> 
> The LR Mobile approach to synching, and most of Adobe’s cloud-based design is 
> apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those 
> who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image 
> sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the 
> world. I like the functionality of LR Classic and am grateful that they 
> retained this alternative to the Cloud-based apps.
> 
> Back when I had both a desktop Mac and my laptop, I did have LR Classic on 
> both machines and never had an issue unless I tried to have both running at 
> the same time.
> 
> Stan
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> I have Lightroom Classic running on this here Mac mini, with my photos on 
>> external hard drives.
>> We’re going to be doing some traveling, and I’d like to have LR on my 
>> MacBook Pro.  There is loads of room on its internal drive.
>> What flavor of LR should I install on my laptop that won’t insist on using 
>> the cloud?  Will Adobe allow me to download another copy of LrC?
>> Their website is completely un-helpful, alas.
>> Rick
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Brothels, bartenders and film stars: Eve Arnold’s women – in pictures

[Bob W PDML]

The Graun has a good review of the Eve Arnold exhibition I went to this week. 
Hopefully the PDML will accept this link

Brothels, bartenders and film stars: Eve Arnold’s women – in pictures
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jul/10/brothels-bartenders-and-film-stars-eve-arnolds-women-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Eve Arnold, Andre Lhote

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Yesterday I went to an excellent retrospective exhibition of photos by Eve 
Arnold, which concentrated mainly on her representation of women, putting it 
into perspective of her life and times. 

The exhibition held at the Newlands House Gallery in Petworth is called “To 
Know About Women”, which is a quote from Eve Arnold. Although I was already 
familiar with all of the photos on show it was very instructive to see them as 
a whole, beautifully printed, laid out thematically and chronologically; the 
texts that accompany it are very informative.

While I was in Petworth, and before going into the exhibition, I had a look 
round a very good commercial fine art gallery called Ottocento in the town, 
which has some works by Picasso, Dora Maar, Cocteau and the like. 

Curiously and coincidentally they have a nice drawing by André Lhote, who was 
Henri Cartier-Bresson’s drawing and composition teacher before HCB turned to 
photography. It’s the first time I’ve seen an actual work by Lhote. 

Of course HCB founded Magnum, and Eve Arnold was the first woman to join 
Magnum, and she acknowledges her great debt to him, so there’s a nice 
coincidental connection between the two shows.

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Re: GESO - Cliveden Mansion

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That looks like a fascinating place. Nicely photographed.

> On 20 Jul 2023, at 02:26, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Cliveden is a mansion in the Mount Airy section of Philadelphia, built in 
> the 1760s, and home to seven generations of the Chew family. The house and 
> surrounding fields were the site of the Battle of Germantown during the 
> Revolutionary War.  The National Trust for Historic Preservation now owns and 
> operates it as a museum and research center.
> 
> These are photos of the interior. Pouring rain and sodden ground discouraged 
> me from photographing the impressive grounds and gardens.
> 
> All were taken with my K-5 and DA 17-70. The ISO was 3200; the new Denoise is 
> Lightroom is amazing.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/July-2023/Cliveden-7-16-23/
> 
> Any comments are most welcome.
> 
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Re: OnT: Grey Matter Exercise

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Only in the easy newspapers… :0)


> On 27 Jun 2023, at 11:33, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Because the ? indicate that Gegs is a  scrambled version of a word in the 
> answer.
> 
> https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/5498/gegs-9-4-a-british-cryptic-crossword-clue
> 
> Alan C
> 
> 
>> On 27-Jun-23 10:10 AM, Bob W PDML wrote:
>> Why?
>>>> On 27 Jun 2023, at 08:33, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> Shouldn't the first one have a question mark after it?
>>>> On 25/06/2023 19:50 Bob W PDML  wrote:
>>>> Too easy.
>>>> I have two favourite cryptic crossword clues, neither is difficult, but I 
>>>> like them.
>>>> One that my housemaster told me when I was about 12 and he was explaining 
>>>> what cryptic crosswords are:
>>>> Gegs (9, 4)
>>>> And another which I saw on a book cover:
>>>> Two girls, one on each knee (7)
>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2023, at 20:43, Stan Halpin  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Cormorant …
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>>>>>> Crossword clue:
>>>>>> Large diving bird from cold, wild moor and tarn. (9).
>>>>>> Alan C
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Re: OnT: Grey Matter Exercise

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Why?

> On 27 Jun 2023, at 08:33, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Shouldn't the first one have a question mark after it?
> 
>> On 25/06/2023 19:50 Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Too easy. 
>> 
>> I have two favourite cryptic crossword clues, neither is difficult, but I 
>> like them.
>> 
>> One that my housemaster told me when I was about 12 and he was explaining 
>> what cryptic crosswords are:
>> 
>> Gegs (9, 4)
>> 
>> And another which I saw on a book cover:
>> 
>> Two girls, one on each knee (7)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 25 Jun 2023, at 20:43, Stan Halpin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cormorant …
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Crossword clue:
>>>> 
>>>> Large diving bird from cold, wild moor and tarn. (9).
>>>> 
>>>> Alan C
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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

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> On 26 Jun 2023, at 22:12, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks and yes on the mend. Cryo-ablation went smoothly and so far so good….

So it’s true what they say, you do have a splinter of ice in your heart…

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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

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> On 26 Jun 2023, at 22:12, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Bob
> 
> You had a Pentax MX fixed *under warranty* ?? How does that work?!

The initial repair / refurb came with a 3-month warranty. 

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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

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> On 26 Jun 2023, at 21:18, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 26.06.23 um 20:42 schrieb Bob W PDML:
>> ...until I got the first roll of film back, which very clearly showed 
>> significant shutter lag.
> 
> So, that's what it's called. Just copied it into my vocabulary book. ;-)

You’re welcome.

> 
>> I hope the MX surgery is successful too, lovely cameras.
> 
> Indeed. I had a LX and a MX, at one time. Much preferred the MX because
> of it's smaller size.

I now have an LX too. I like them as well. I had three at one time in the 90s.

> 
> Still had to give it up because I need a +1 diopter correction for the
> viewfinder since I've got my first varifocal glasses. Seems quite odd as
> nobody else does. Have been discussing this with a lot of people,
> incuding the optical engineers at Zeiss, Rodenstock and Essilor, but
> noone has been able to explain this.

I use varifocals, but when I’m taking pictures I take them off. 

I have the diopter in the LX finder cranked up to its maximum of +1, which is 
fine. 

I have +1.5 diopter things for my Leica Ms; the Barnack Leica has an adjuster 
built in. 

I have a Pentax viewfinder correction attachment which I use on the MX, which I 
swap between it and a P30 that I have.

My LUMIX GX8s have a dial that sets the diopter correction.

The only camera I have which I can’t correct is a Minolta Hi-matic 7s that I 
bought a few weeks ago. I’m still waiting for the first film to come back so if 
they’re all out of focus I won’t know if it’s my fault or the camera’s!


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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

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I think it would still be a good idea to put a roll of film through. You seem 
to be where I was last year with my MX, which I bought new in 79/80. 

I resuscitated it last year and all seemed well, not even a sticking mirror, 
until I got the first roll of film back, which very clearly showed significant 
shutter lag. I had it serviced, including mirror foam replacement, but after 
two or three more rolls there was still a bit of a problem with the shutter, 
which I had fixed under warranty. 

Anyway, the moral is, don’t believe anything until you’ve film-tested it!

Good luck! I guess your recent procedure has been a success, and I hope the MX 
surgery is successful too, lovely cameras. 

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 20:26, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ralph,
> 
> The shutter times seem accurate, certainly at the slower speeds. The shutter 
> curtains appear to be playing ball! I have no way of checking the faster 
> times and it’s not worth sending it off for that to be done. The true test 
> can be with a roll of film.
> 
> This MX is my very first Pentax bought new in 1981 and only ever used by me. 
> Stopped using it regularly in 2003 so it has sat for 20 years in the warm and 
> dry on a shelf over my desk. I rattle off a few shutter firings every once in 
> a while, so I’ve no reason to think that it’s misbehaving. The mirror foam is 
> still there and performing its function. If iut hasn’t been fired in a while 
> the mirror sticks up on the first couple of shots, then it’s fine. I’m just 
> making sure it will last another 20 years - although my son knows that I want 
> to be buried with it, so he’ll have to give it back one day - although I’ll 
> never know!! :-0
> 
> Cot
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Re: OnT: Grey Matter Exercise

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Too easy. 

I have two favourite cryptic crossword clues, neither is difficult, but I like 
them.

One that my housemaster told me when I was about 12 and he was explaining what 
cryptic crosswords are:

Gegs (9, 4)

And another which I saw on a book cover:

Two girls, one on each knee (7)



> On 25 Jun 2023, at 20:43, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Cormorant …
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> Crossword clue:
>> 
>> Large diving bird from cold, wild moor and tarn. (9).
>> 
>> Alan C
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Re: What Adobe product?

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I use Lightroom almost exclusively on my iPhone and iPad. I also have it, and 
a copy of LR Classic, on my Mac mini, but rarely use it on that. However, I 
don’t do much post-processing. 

You could subscribe and try them all for no extra cost, then cancel the 
subscription if you don’t like it.

> On 10 Jun 2023, at 13:58, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m going to be upgrading to a new Mac, silicon not Intel. I own a copy of 
> Lightroom.I will need to upgrade. Sticking to Adobe there are three options: 
> Elements, Lightroom, and Lightroom Classic. I have never used Photoshop. 
> Don’t see myself using it down the road. Would Lightroom, i.e., without with 
> Photoshop be equivalent to the copy of Lightroom that I own and itself 
> probably has more power features that I need/will use? What about Elements?
> 
> My photography for some time now has been iPhone photography. I’ve considered 
> just relying on Apple’s Photos app for editing. But with ought Lightroom I 
> assume I’d lose access to the catalogue of photos that have been edited and 
> managed with Lightroom.
> 
> Interested in experience and thoughts of others that would help me decide.
> 
> thanks,
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> 
> - Hilary Putnam
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> 
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Re: peso - yellow sky

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I’ve been watching it on the news, thinking about you and everyone else 
affected by it, hoping you’d post something. It looks dreadful, very 
apocalyptic. Great little detail about the sweet smell - I’d never have 
imagined that. Look after yourself.

> On 8 Jun 2023, at 15:03, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> From my livingroom window yesterday.. June 7th.  about the time the air 
> quality index was well over 400.  Of course I shot it through window pane and 
> not with my Pentax, sorry..  it was so bad it smelled like someone was having 
> a BBQ right under my window.  IT was smokey but sweet - thanks to the maple 
> trees that were burning in Canada.  at about this time if day we were rated 
> as ahaving the worst pollution anywhere in the world.  Of course I didnt go 
> out,
> won't go out today but I'm not complaining here I have good AC and n95 mask 
> for when I do go out if I have to. .. the point is just the rareness of the 
> event in New York.. 50 years since anything even came close..
> 
> Giving me a good understanding of what so many places in the world experience 
> much too frequently and in New York's case at least this smoke
> is not burning things right here.. anyway...
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2022-miscellaneous-snaps/i-mMt8M57/A
> 
> 20 years ago, or even 10 I would have been up on the roof with my best Pentax 
> and gotten a shot of the Empire statebuilding not being there.
> 
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Re: Peso: A train in Philly for Ralf

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That’s a nice shot, the light on those iron girders is good. 

It seems to me the station should be in more famous photos, especially in B, 
but a google search doesn’t seem to turn anything up.

> On 7 Jun 2023, at 16:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Taken when I visited  Philly in  2014 and spent a couple of hours dining and 
> strolling around town with Rick ... more a shot of the platform than the 
> train, but there is a commuter train in it.
> 
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Re: 30th St. Station

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A very interesting set - it’s a beautiful building.

> On 7 Jun 2023, at 02:08, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Three photo-friends and I had a photo-visit to 30th St. Station (Philly’s 
> rail hub) this week.  The pics are here:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/May-2023/30th-St-Station-5-30-23/
> 
> I mislabeled the folder, hence the odd link.
> 
> (All with K-5 and either 17-70 or 10-17 fisheye).
> 
> Comments always appreciated.
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Re: GESO: Our just-completed Pennine Way walk

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> On 28 May 2023, at 13:27, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Wow - you had some **cloud**  !! We’ve been plagued with wall-to-wall 
> sunshine for nearly 3 weeks as the Azores high sits righ over the UK and will 
> continue to do so for at least another week.
> 
> Great set of pics - really captures the mood well. Love the rocky outcrops. I 
> like the stones. And the band ;-)
> 
> Mar Roberts - part man part goat!
> 
> Cotty

The ancient Greek god, Pan, god of nature and wild things, at his happiest when 
blowing his own pipe.
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Re: GESO: Our just-completed Pennine Way walk

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Well done! Superb photos of an amazing landscape.

> On 26 May 2023, at 20:43, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Finishing up (finally) in Scotland a couple of weeks ago.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/albums/72177720308386495
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

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> On 16 May 2023, at 18:34, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> I think that it is kind of silly for someone to buy a brand new film camera 
> when perfectly servicable ones are practically being given away.  I 
> personally bought several when I got back into photography because I wanted 
> the lens that came with it.  I honestly lost count of the number of spotties 
> languishing in my drawers, just because I wanted the 50/1.4 supertak that was 
> attached to them.

[…]

The young people buying the used cameras don’t necessarily have the experience 
to know whether they’re buying something that works or not. Last year I had my 
original MX, which I bought new, repaired after it had been languishing in a 
cupboard unused for years. I’ve had to have the repair fixed under warranty. 

But I enjoy using the camera so I decided to buy another MX. I tried and 
returned five, including 2-3 from reputable dealers, not just Joe Random on 
eBay, before I finally found one that is in perfect condition that had been 
serviced by somebody competent.

I also decided I wanted an LX again. I’ve tried two and returned them both, and 
am now having the third serviced by the same competent person who sold me the 
good MX. I had sent it to the technicians with the best reputation here, after 
I shot a roll of ektachrome to flush out any issues. They sent it back 
unusable, telling me it was already broken when I bought it. My reliable guy 
assures me I would not have been able to shoot more than one frame, let alone a 
full roll, if the other tech was correct, and he thinks they broke it. He has 
told me today that he will have it back in my hands in perfect working order by 
the end of next week.

It’s the Wild West out there.

I think if Pentax comes out with something stylish and simple like the 1960s / 
1970s fixed-lens rangefinders (Oly 35 RD et al) at a decent price they’ll be 
onto a winner with a lot of young people around the world.



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Re: Life Update:

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That’s good news - good luck!

> On 12 May 2023, at 22:33, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Things are looking up. I've found a house, made an offer & it has been 
> accepted.
> 
> My closing date for this house (the day I get the money from my buyer) is May 
> 31.
> 
> My closing date for the new house (the day I have to give THEM the money) is 
> June 1.
> 
> If I can get my buyer to agree I will stay in my old house until June 2 & 
> move directly into the new house. I've ordered one of those PODS containers 
> to facilitate the move.
> 
> But that means I got to get back to work now boxing stuff up & getting it 
> ready to go into the POD (or into storage - I already have two rental units, 
> one I've filled and another that's half full.
> 
> I think I may actually make my deadlines. Wish me luck.
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Re: RIP Dan Matyola

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That’s a real shock, he was always so active here. 

> On 11 May 2023, at 00:27, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Facebook alerted me today of messages about the passing of Dan
> Matyola, May 2, 2023, at 81 years of age.
> 
> I'm only a "FB friend" but we've chatted a bunch since I joined the
> list and I know he was a very long time PDML member. His last reply to
> the list was also May 2, amazingly.
> 
> I located a link to his obit:
> https://www.cusickfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Daniel-Matyola?obId=27875827
> 
> His FB profiles -- which his cousin has been adding updates to -- is here:
> https://www.facebook.com/daniel.j.matyola
> https://www.facebook.com/dan.matyola
> 
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Re: May PUG is up

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… a billboard lovely as a tree.
Indeed, unless the billboards fall,
I’ll never see a tree at all.

—-Ogden Nash

> On 4 May 2023, at 21:24, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I think that I shall never see...
> 
>> On 5/4/2023 3:37 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> Hmmm. What I sent was not what showed up...
>> 
 On May 4, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Stanley Halpin  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not just the numbers, but the flexibility of the software and, I am sure, 
>>> consideration of convenience for user (Brian) and viewer (us slobs).
>>> What might have been with 19 images of Lone Tree:
>>> 
>>>X
>>>X X
>>> X X  X
>>>   XXXX
>>>   X  X   XX
>>>X   XX   X
>>> X
>>> Stan
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2023, at 1:37 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 
 Ralf   - yeah, Henk's is a nice giggle.  The variety of trees made it for 
 me as a group..  I wish we could always
 have the right number of photos to make the index page symetrical.. we 
 needed just one MORE tree.
 
 ann
 
 
 On 5/3/2023 6:45 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> Am 03.05.23 um 12:10 schrieb Brian W:
>> G'day all
>> 
>> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
> What a great gallery. Definitely one of the best we've ever had. My
> favourites? The lot of them. But Henk's photo really put a smile on my 
> face.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: Slide scanners

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I’ve been using a Pentax Slide Holder 1X K with Pentax K extension tube #3, a 
reversing adapter, and a Pentax-M 50mm macro attached to a MFT* digital camera, 
lit by a Kaiser light table. It’s very quick and the results are good, at least 
for use as proofs. 

Nikon has a setup like it, based around the ES-2 adapter, D850 camera and a 
60mm macro lens, specifically for digitising slides & negs, but for some reason 
they only output jpeg.

*with a full-frame digital camera a different set of tubes/lens might be needed 
but the principle is the same of course, and there would be increased 
resolution from not cropping the unused bits of the 4/3rds frame. But I don’t 
have a full frame colour digital camera. 

> On 1 May 2023, at 18:30, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have you thought about paying a scanning service. I can’t say I have 
> experience, but I looked into it once. And I may use it yet, though I don’t 
> have anywhere near your number of slides. 
> 
> I don’t know about quality or cost. I do know that they let you decide after 
> scanning which slides you want to pay for. Or at least they did when I 
> checked into a few years ago.
> 
> ———
> Eric Weir 
> Atlanta, GA  USA
> 
> “It has all been combustion.”
> 
> - W.G. Sebald
> 
>> On May 1, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Good day, all,
>> 
>> I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.
>> 
>> It’s time to digitize these.
>> 
>> So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack 
>> of slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: Peso - one more lonely tree not submitted for May PUG

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Behind every tree hides a cormorant. 

> On 1 May 2023, at 13:33, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Seems to be missing a cormorant. As I suspect most of this month's entries 
> will be.
> 
>> On 01/05/2023 13:08 ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ok, I'll play
>> 
>> Decided this one  had been seen in a PUG before and the file, scanned 
>> from a Kodachrome slide, had
>> not been well processed going to digital .  Have lovely memories 
>> associated with it though .
>> 
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/North-America-Naturally/i-TFfKwNx/A
>> 
>> ann
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Re: OT: Life Changes

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> On 25 Apr 2023, at 14:49, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be certain 
> until I actually see the cash in my bank account.
> 
> Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the bank account.
> 
> But I have to be out of here on May 10.
> 

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Re: Vacation suggestion

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Yes. I remember seeing it in NG when it was first published and being amazed by 
how good McCurry is. It’s become a cliche in itself now, as you can find all 
sorts of variants of it now as tourists clearly go to that spot to reproduce it.

Another way of treating the well-known subjects is to emulate the Japanese 
woodblock printers of the Ukiyo-e style, who published collections of different 
views of the same subject, such as Hokusai’s 37 Views of Mount Fuji. You can 
see examples online. I have a beautiful book first published in the early 20th 
century called Les Trente-Six Vues de la Tour Eiffel by Henri Rivière who 
produced a collection of lithographs in the manner of Japanese woodblock 
prints, but with a distinctly art nouveau style.

You don’t have to go to Canada, Alaska or even Mars to do this sort of thing. 
You could do it in your home town - 12 Views of the local Taco Bell - or even 
at home - 36 views of my wife’s big toe. Or 10 Frames of Old Faithful.


> On 20 Apr 2023, at 19:32, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> That is an astonishing image.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:11 PM Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Apr 2023, at 18:56, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 19/04/2023 14:59 coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
>>>> In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand
>> Canyon for another week.
>>>> At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film.
>> (Just battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be
>> judicious.
>>>> So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that
>> a million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
>>> 
>>> Nude selfies.
>>> --
>> 
>> Oh dear, I hope it doesn’t come to that.
>> 
>> I remember reading something about a million years ago by one of the
>> Magnum or Nat Geo photographers who described what they did when they were
>> photographing a place that’s been done to death already. He would buy a
>> load of postcards which showed the classic views, and spend a day or two
>> going to those places, photographing them, and getting them behind him, out
>> of the way. Then he could start looking at what’s in between them, that the
>> tourists etc don’t look at.
>> 
>> You can also make an effort to look at the stale subjects with a different
>> eye. My favourite example of this is a photo of the Taj Mahal by Steve
>> McCurry, to which I provide a broken link in an attempt to stop the server
>> from blocking this email:
>> 
>> htt   ps://
>> static.nationalgeographic.co.uk/files/styles/image_3200/public/21246.webp?w=430=323=100
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Re: Vacation suggestion

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> 
> On 19 Apr 2023, at 18:56, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 19/04/2023 14:59 coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
>> In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon 
>> for another week.
>> At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film. (Just 
>> battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be 
>> judicious.
>> So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a 
>> million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
> 
> Nude selfies.
> --

Oh dear, I hope it doesn’t come to that.

I remember reading something about a million years ago by one of the Magnum or 
Nat Geo photographers who described what they did when they were photographing 
a place that’s been done to death already. He would buy a load of postcards 
which showed the classic views, and spend a day or two going to those places, 
photographing them, and getting them behind him, out of the way. Then he could 
start looking at what’s in between them, that the tourists etc don’t look at.

You can also make an effort to look at the stale subjects with a different eye. 
My favourite example of this is a photo of the Taj Mahal by Steve McCurry, to 
which I provide a broken link in an attempt to stop the server from blocking 
this email:

htt   
ps://static.nationalgeographic.co.uk/files/styles/image_3200/public/21246.webp?w=430=323=100
 

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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

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Looks like it wouldn’t have much trouble catching Maybellene at the top of the 
hill. Nothin’ outruns a V8 Foad. 

> On 16 Apr 2023, at 18:34, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
> Ford from the late 1950s.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
> 
> Shot on the Fuji X-Pro 1 and 35/1.4 Fujinon lens.
> I'm playing with the Remove tool in the Beta version of Photoshop 2023.
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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

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X100

> On 13 Apr 2023, at 21:08, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Is it an X100, X100S, X100T, X100F or the unobtainable X100V :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 Apr 2023, at 21:04, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> I have an original X100 which I never use, hardly used at all really, if 
> you’re interested when the dust settles I’m sure we can figure something out.
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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

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I have an original X100 which I never use, hardly used at all really, if you’re 
interested when the dust settles I’m sure we can figure something out.


> I really like an optical viewfinder for mono, so in theory the Pentax wins on 
> that score. The Fuji X20 has an optical viewfinder. I suppose a Leica mono 
> would be pretty good really - a lottery win for me tho! When the dust settles 
> later this year I might pick up an X100 incarnation. I’ve always fancied one 
> :-) I don’t use zooms (for stills) so that would be quite good I think. And 
> when I did use the Pen F, my go-to lens was always the Voigtlander 15mm/4.5 
> (same angle of view as a 30mm on full-frame) so not far off the X100’s lens.
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Re: A few Easter PESOs

[Bob W PDML]

Lovely stuff. The cafe reminded me immediately of the closing scenes of 
Haneke’s ‘Happy End’. I love the way the word Frites slides downwards, and if I 
ever buy a house again I shall call it Villa Kunterbunt.


> On 13 Apr 2023, at 17:42, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> We haven't made it to Dunkirk yet again, this Easter, so here are a few
> PESOs from earlier years:
> 
> The Café du Cap Gris Nez was very popular with day trippers. It has been
> closed and demolished in 2006 at the behest of local environmentalists:
> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/le-cafe-du-cap-gris-nez-2006-fotoralfbe/47270827
> 
> Good Friday in the port of Boulogne-sur-Mer 2006:
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/karfreitag-2006-fotoralfbe/47269020
> 
> A retired mobile chippy in the port of Dunkirk:
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/bienvenue-chez-les-chtis-fotoralfbe/47275969
> 
> A colourful building in the port of Dunkirk:
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/villa-kunterbunt-fotoralfbe/47279019
> 
> Enjoy
> Ralf
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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

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> On 13 Apr 2023, at 17:12, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 13.04.23 um 17:11 schrieb Bob W PDML:
>> That would be only 1,220.
> 
> Is anyone seriously expecting more than that?
> 
> Ralf

Their finance director?


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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

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That would be only 1,220. 

> On 13 Apr 2023, at 16:05, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I hope they sell a ton of them.
> 
>> On 4/13/2023 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr
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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

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Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is 
nothing more to take away.

—- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry 

> On 13 Apr 2023, at 13:44, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> No flip screen, no colour, what can be removed next?:)
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op do 13 apr 2023 om 11:14 schreef Steve Cottrell :
> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr
>> 
>> 
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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

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Nice. The tones that come out of the M10 monochrome are superb.

> On 13 Apr 2023, at 10:14, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> 
> https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr
> 
> 
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Re: PDML Gothic

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> On 11 Apr 2023, at 18:12, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2023, at 5:35 AM, Mark Roberts  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm in NY for a short visit to deal with some family business and see a 
>>> couple of friends ... And of course I visited Ann while I was here. :) 
>>> 
>>> PDML Gothic - Manhattan, New York City 2023 :: https://flic.kr/p/2osw7km
>> 
>> Oh come on. Neither of you is wearing nearly enough eye makeup to be
>> gothic. ;-)
> 
> If you’re a goth, where were you when we sacked Rome?
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Re: PDML Gothic

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Great shot. One of should have had a pitchfork in your hand!

> On 11 Apr 2023, at 12:33, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I'm in NY for a short visit to deal with some family business and see a 
> couple of friends ... And of course I visited Ann while I was here. :) 
> 
> PDML Gothic - Manhattan, New York City 2023 :: https://flic.kr/p/2osw7km
> 
> The art of the selfie ... gads, it's harder than I think every time I try to 
> make one. I made two with my iPhone that I deleted immediately, Ann made one 
> with her CoolPix where she had a nice smile and I looked like I'd been 
> smokin' dope for a day. This one I made with the Light L16 camera on self 
> timer, camera set to about 75mm focal length: I cut my head off partially, 
> but Ann has a mischievous look on her face that I like and at least the photo 
> is reasonably sharp. The picture of the girl on the wall is one of Ann's 
> paintings, based on a photo taken of her by her mom when she was a young girl.
> 
> It was a lovely hour! Ann, you're looking great! It was great to see you and 
> spend some time together once again! :D
> 
> I'm off for another day and a half in Connecticut and then back home... 
> 
> Godfrey
> —
> No matter where you go, there you are.
> 
> 
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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

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A PUG theme of Cinema would be quite interesting as it’s fairly wide-ranging 
and open to quite a lot of interpretation. 

Making an homage to a single individual’s style seems a bit narrow to me, and 
why choose Wes Anderson rather than Kurosawa or Godard or Hitchcock or Varda or 
any other auteur film maker? 

Good starting point though.

> On 3 Apr 2023, at 17:51, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.
> 
> I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how to 
> take photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker). But I 
> think it would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?
> 
> Anyway ...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0
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Re: GESO: Doors

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Great gallery - very interesting!

> On 31 Mar 2023, at 06:05, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> For a number of reasons, I was unable to take a new image for the April
> PUG, so I decided to review my old image files, to see
> what interpretations of that theme I could locate.  I settled on an old
> favorite image of a door I took years ago, but I also uncovered images that
> I had forgotten or that brought back memories.
> 
> This gallery then is sort of a *Salon des Refusés, *a collection of those
> images rejected for my April PUG entry
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2023/3/31/doors
> 
> Comments, suggestions and criticisms are invited and appreciated.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
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Re: Bob, Dan, Godfrey, Bill, Collin and I are alive...

[Bob W PDML]

We’ve all been around a long time. Sometimes it’s hard to tell. I only read the 
newspapers these days to see if I’m in the obituaries.

> On 28 Mar 2023, at 22:04, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else?
> 
> Rick
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Re: GESO (17) - Old City Philadelphia walk

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Nice looking place. Parts of it could be mistaken for Spitalfields in London.

> On 27 Mar 2023, at 00:09, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> My apologies for my lack of moderation in posting a 17-photo gallery.  They 
> are my favorites of about 70 shots from a cold, wet photo-walk with two 
> friends.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/March-2023/Old-City-Walk-3-23-23/
> 
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Re: Pentax to make new film camera?

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Couldn’t you just buy them all a Leica M11 and a selection of lenses?

Something a bit more practical could probably be done in software. My phone and 
my bike GPS both have a ‘Guest’ mode whereby you can limit the functionality 
when you lend the device to someone. On the GPS it’s for people who run 
self-guided cycle tours - you put in the routes and that’s all the client can 
use except for emergency contact. 

It would probably not take much to program a manual-only mode into a DSLR.

For the new Pentax they wouldn’t go far wrong if they just revived something 
like the P30/P3 and 2-3 PKA lenses.

> On 24 Mar 2023, at 13:08, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> I'd really prefer it if they (or someone else) made an all-manual DSLR
> for photography students. Having so much automation available is a
> real handicap for my beginning students learning photography.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

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My anagram reply was to google, not to you. I understand your problems and 
didn’t mean any offence, just wanted you to know that people may not be seeing 
your photos.

> On 22 Mar 2023, at 16:19, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> That's fine, I don't terribly care that you don't look at them. I'm up to my 
> asshole in storm damage, have no power or Internet at home, I hope you won't 
> feel offended that I don't spend an hour and a half paying something on 
> Flickr so you can see it .  
> 
>> On March 22, 2023 8:29:27 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> Whenever you put a link to photos on Google it tells me it wants access to 
>> all my photos before it will show me yours. My reply is an anagram of 
>> cfffkou.
>> 
>>>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 15:23, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just with my phone
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>>>>>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> […]
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
>>>>> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where 
>>>>> they chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 
>>>> 
>>>> One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

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Whenever you put a link to photos on Google it tells me it wants access to all 
my photos before it will show me yours. My reply is an anagram of cfffkou.

> On 22 Mar 2023, at 15:23, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Just with my phone
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9
> 
> 
> On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>>>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> […]
>>> 
>>> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
>>> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where 
>>> they chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
>> 
>> Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 
>> 
>> One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

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> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where they 
> chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.

Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 

One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.

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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

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It happened just over four weeks ago so I’m well on the road to recovery now. 
I was in A for about four hours - you go to the front of the queue if you 
have a head injury, so I was seen and treated straight away. 

Once my head had cleared I noticed they’d written ‘?stroke’ against my name on 
the whiteboard. I was looking forward to that, but sadly none of the nurses 
stroked me. Bloody NHS!



> On 18 Mar 2023, at 21:06, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Sheesh! Waht happened? You’re in hospital??
> 
> C
> 
> 
> On 17 Mar 2023, at 15:27, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> It also depends to some extent how well my fractured collarbone has healed. I 
> expect to be discharged at the end of April,
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Re: PESO: European brook lamprey

[Bob W PDML]

Fascinating. One of our medieval kings is said to have died ‘of a surfeit of 
lampreys’, though presumably not brook lampreys as they seem to small to eat.

> On 18 Mar 2023, at 20:29, Toine  wrote:
> 
> This fish is very rare and if present an indication of water quality. I had
> the opportunity to see them because they were just being counted.
> 
> https://repiuk.nl/new/_1033255/
> 
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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

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The bike wasn’t particularly damaged apparently. The helmet was a write-off, 
of course, but they must be insured for that sort of thing.

I’ll try and make it to Dorset. I’m trying to plan my hols at the moment, which 
were going to involve a vintage bike ride in France that week, but I think 
that’s probably off the cards now and I’ll go walking somewhere in June instead 
with some other Francophile friends.



> On 18 Mar 2023, at 10:15, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> At least it was someone else's bike (as all the motorcyclists on here will 
> be thinking) but full marks for commitment.  We will be in Dorset first 
> week of July, if you are healed and fancy meeting up.
>> On 17/03/2023 19:02 Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> That sounds very unpleasant and disabling, I hope you make a quick and 
>> complete recovery.
>> It was a motorbike mishap for me. I was doing my compulsory basic training 
>> with a view to buying a 125-equivalent electric motorbike. When the 
>> instructor dropped his arm to signal an emergency stop I ballsed it up and 
>> came off. Concussion, bruising and a broken collarbone were my reward, but 
>> I’ve decided that motorbikes and I are not meant for each other.
>>>> On 17 Mar 2023, at 18:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>>> Bob W PDML wrote:
>>>> I’ll be in Paris from 18-21 May.
>>>> 10th and 11th are possibilities but I’m trying to arrange a trip to
>>>> Amsterdam and the NL for May sometime, so it’s a bit uncertain.
>>>> It also depends to some extent how well my fractured collarbone has healed.
>>>> I expect to be discharged at the end of April, and so far everything’s
>>>> going well, but who knows?
>>> Yikes! Didn't know about the collarbone. Cycling mishap?
>>> I just had surgery on my left hand two weeks ago (and had the stitches
>>> removed 2 hours ago!) for Dupuytren's Contracture on two fingers.
>>> Still painful and inconvenient and the recovery time won't be quick
>>> but I hope to be playing bass again within 6 weeks or so.
>>> Keep me posted on your recovery.
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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

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That sounds very unpleasant and disabling, I hope you make a quick and complete 
recovery.

It was a motorbike mishap for me. I was doing my compulsory basic training with 
a view to buying a 125-equivalent electric motorbike. When the instructor 
dropped his arm to signal an emergency stop I ballsed it up and came off. 
Concussion, bruising and a broken collarbone were my reward, but I’ve decided 
that motorbikes and I are not meant for each other.

> On 17 Mar 2023, at 18:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob W PDML wrote:
> 
>> I’ll be in Paris from 18-21 May. 
>> 
>> 10th and 11th are possibilities but I’m trying to arrange a trip to 
>> Amsterdam and the NL for May sometime, so it’s a bit uncertain. 
>> 
>> It also depends to some extent how well my fractured collarbone has healed. 
>> I expect to be discharged at the end of April, and so far everything’s 
>> going well, but who knows?
> 
> Yikes! Didn't know about the collarbone. Cycling mishap?
> 
> I just had surgery on my left hand two weeks ago (and had the stitches
> removed 2 hours ago!) for Dupuytren's Contracture on two fingers.
> Still painful and inconvenient and the recovery time won't be quick
> but I hope to be playing bass again within 6 weeks or so.
> 
> Keep me posted on your recovery.
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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

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I’ll be in Paris from 18-21 May. 

10th and 11th are possibilities but I’m trying to arrange a trip to Amsterdam 
and the NL for May sometime, so it’s a bit uncertain. 

It also depends to some extent how well my fractured collarbone has healed. I 
expect to be discharged at the end of April, and so far everything’s going 
well, but who knows?

> On 17 Mar 2023, at 14:50, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> We'll be in the UK in May, finishing up the final third of our Pennine
> Way walk and doing some general wandering. 
> 
> We arrive in London on May 9 but we'll probably only be there for a
> day or two before heading north for the walk. We're spending most of
> our time in The North (eckythump!) but still haven't decided exactly
> when we're returning to London - we could spend the 21st through the
> 23rd in the northern hinterlands (Mike Wilson territory) or we could
> go beck to London early and spend more time there (our return flight's
> on the 24th).
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Re: March PUG is Up

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> On 8 Mar 2023, at 14:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 08.03.23 um 09:42 schrieb Brian W:
>> G'day all
>> 
>> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> What a beautiful gallery of our loved companions. My favourite is Bob
> Walkden's cat on the wall of *her* front garden.

Thanks - much appreciated!

Not actually *my* cat, just some random village mog, presumably the owner of 
the old blacksmith.

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