Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Igor PDML-StR]

+1.
Cotty stole my thoughts! :)



But when I was taking this, related photo, if I had used a polarizer,
I am not sure if my car (the white one) would have shown up:
http://42graphy.org/misc/Car_IR32941.jpg
(or maybe it would've been enhanced... it depends on the polarization...)
:-)
Igor




Chris Mitchell Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:27:01 -0700 wrote:

Thanks Cotty. That's 2 votes for a polariser...

Chris


On 24 March 2017 at 13:59, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 24/3/17, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:


While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
think of this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0


Really nice shot Chris. I like how you've kept the outline of the car
free from background clutter. They only thing that would improve it
would be the use of a polarising filter to combat sky reflection.

Nice one!



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RE: My attempt at car photography!

[Malcolm Smith]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

I thought so too. I entered it in a competition with the subject "Objects of
desire". The judge said "I'd rather have seen the whole thing and not just
the badge". Soon after I stopped entering club competitions...


You'll find the judge in the next competition where you show the whole car,
will ask why you didn't how just the badge and a bit of bonnet.

That is why club competitions aren't worth entering. 

Malcolm


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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

On 24 March 2017 at 19:21, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Nice, especially the badge shot.

I thought so too. I entered it in a competition with the subject
"Objects of desire". The judge said "I'd rather have seen the whole
thing and not just the badge". Soon after I stopped entering club
competitions...

CM

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

On 24 March 2017 at 18:57, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Lovely car, and you did it justice.

Thanks Larry.

>>
>> Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
>> this close-up of the badge:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
>
>
> I thought that all you had to do to get that effect in England was to park a
> car outdoors for an hour or two.
>
Haha, the old ones are the best. I gather you've been having somewhat
inclement weather lately. Trust your cars have dried out OK.

Chris

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

And they were made in Newport Pagnell, a couple of miles from where I live.

On 24 Mar 2017 19:21, "Bob W-PDML"  wrote:

> Nice, especially the badge shot. If somebody forced me to have a car, I'd
> want an Aston Martin. I think they're the car version of a Roberts bike.
>
> B
>
> > On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:37, Jack Davis  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
> > Love the B, Chris
> >
> > J
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris Mitchell" 
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
> > Subject: My attempt at car photography!
> >
> > While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
> > entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
> > Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
> > think of this:
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%
> 20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
> >
> > Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
> > this close-up of the badge:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%
> 20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
> >
> > Any comments gratefully received.
> >
> > Thanks, Chris
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[mike wilson]

> On 24 March 2017 at 21:24 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24/3/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I thought that all you had to do to get that effect in England was to 
> >park a car outdoors for an hour or two.
> 
> That's Scotland.

Wales.  I still remember the sound of Minis rusting in the showrooms when I was
a lad.

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Gonz]

Which is like the next county over in Texas right?


On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 24/3/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I thought that all you had to do to get that effect in England was to
>>park a car outdoors for an hour or two.
>
> That's Scotland.
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/3/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I thought that all you had to do to get that effect in England was to 
>park a car outdoors for an hour or two.

That's Scotland.

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Bob W-PDML]

Nice, especially the badge shot. If somebody forced me to have a car, I'd want 
an Aston Martin. I think they're the car version of a Roberts bike.

B

> On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:37, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
> Love the B, Chris
> 
> J
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Mitchell" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
> Subject: My attempt at car photography!
> 
> While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
> entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
> Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
> think of this:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
> 
> Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
> this close-up of the badge:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
> 
> Any comments gratefully received.
> 
> Thanks, Chris
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Larry Colen]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
think of this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0


Lovely car, and you did it justice.



Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
this close-up of the badge:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0


I thought that all you had to do to get that effect in England was to 
park a car outdoors for an hour or two.




Any comments gratefully received.

Thanks, Chris



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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[mike wilson]

> On 24 March 2017 at 17:38 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24 March 2017 at 17:29, mike wilson  wrote:
> > Three.  Also very brave, wetting a 1970s Aston.  Did it ever run again?
> >
> A chamois leather was produced as soon as I'd finished and it was bone
> dry in seconds...

This guy isn't called Charles, by any chance?

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

On 24 March 2017 at 17:29, mike wilson  wrote:
> Three.  Also very brave, wetting a 1970s Aston.  Did it ever run again?
>
A chamois leather was produced as soon as I'd finished and it was bone
dry in seconds...

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[mike wilson]

Three.  Also very brave, wetting a 1970s Aston.  Did it ever run again?

> On 24 March 2017 at 14:25 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Cotty. That's 2 votes for a polariser...
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 24 March 2017 at 13:59, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > On 24/3/17, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
> >>entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
> >>Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
> >>think of this:
> >>
> >>https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
> >
> > Really nice shot Chris. I like how you've kept the outline of the car
> > free from background clutter. They only thing that would improve it
> > would be the use of a polarising filter to combat sky reflection.
> >
> > Nice one!

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/3/17, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Thanks Cotty. That's 2 votes for a polariser...

In this day and age when everything can be done in Photoshop, and to a
similar extent in video editing and SFX software, I tend not to use any
filters - except for one, and only for video. I have a 4X4 polariser for
the video camera - cost me a couple of hundred quid about 10 years ago -
and it works beautifully on windows, water, anything like that
especially out in the sunlight.

Of course being TV gear, you cant just have the polarising filter,
you've got to a have a matte box that *accepts* 4X4 filters ***and***
has a rotating holder - so of course that's another thousand quid!!

The advantage it has is that it comes with a huge detachable French flag
that really helps in low sun and keeping rain off.



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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

Thanks Alan. And it is a nice car - he's still got it. It was scanned
on an Epson V600. I see from the other thread that you're doing battle
with a copy setup. I've tried various alternatives to scanning,
including a slide copier and photographing on a light box using a
macro lens, and can't get better than the V600.

Chris

On 24 March 2017 at 14:50, Alan C  wrote:
> Well, it looks pretty good to me. The car too. Did you scan the neg?
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Chris Mitchell
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 3:25 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: My attempt at car photography!
>
> While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
> entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
> Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
> think of this:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
>
> Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
> this close-up of the badge:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
>
> Any comments gratefully received.
>
> Thanks, Chris
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Alan C]

Well, it looks pretty good to me. The car too. Did you scan the neg?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Mitchell

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 3:25 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: My attempt at car photography!

While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
think of this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0

Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
this close-up of the badge:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0

Any comments gratefully received.

Thanks, Chris

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

Thanks Cotty. That's 2 votes for a polariser...

Chris

On 24 March 2017 at 13:59, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 24/3/17, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
>>entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
>>Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
>>think of this:
>>
>>https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
>
> Really nice shot Chris. I like how you've kept the outline of the car
> free from background clutter. They only thing that would improve it
> would be the use of a polarising filter to combat sky reflection.
>
> Nice one!
>
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Paul Stenquist]

My comments are based on personal preference. And my personal preference is 
based partly on what publications want. Some photographers do like the wide 
angle look, but I’ve never been a fan. Here, if you had rotated the car, you 
would probably have had to deal with your shadow to get the right framing. 
That’s another argument or long lens photography!

Paul
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Paul, I was hoping that you'd respond. It was late evening, but
> I realise from your point and looking at the shadow cast by the car,
> it was probably parked the wrong way round! 90 degrees rotation would
> have had the sunlight illuminating the side. Schoolboy error...
> 
> If I ever get another chance to have a go I'll bear all of your
> suggestions in mind.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 24 March 2017 at 13:58, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> Nicely rendered, but too wide a lens for my taste. It yields a "fat front 
>> end" look. In addition to a longer focal length, a polarizer would have 
>> served you well. Finally, try to shoot at magic hour when the light comes 
>> from a low angle. That will illuminate the car's flanks.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Chris Mitchell  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Jack. Forgot to say that it was Ilford FP4 - probably using a
>>> Z1 and Pentax-A 28mm.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
 On 24 March 2017 at 13:36, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
 Love the B, Chris
 
 J
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris Mitchell" 
 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
 Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
 Subject: My attempt at car photography!
 
 While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
 entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
 Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
 think of this:
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
 
 Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
 this close-up of the badge:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
 
 Any comments gratefully received.
 
 Thanks, Chris
 
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

Thanks Paul, I was hoping that you'd respond. It was late evening, but
I realise from your point and looking at the shadow cast by the car,
it was probably parked the wrong way round! 90 degrees rotation would
have had the sunlight illuminating the side. Schoolboy error...

If I ever get another chance to have a go I'll bear all of your
suggestions in mind.

Chris

On 24 March 2017 at 13:58, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Nicely rendered, but too wide a lens for my taste. It yields a "fat front 
> end" look. In addition to a longer focal length, a polarizer would have 
> served you well. Finally, try to shoot at magic hour when the light comes 
> from a low angle. That will illuminate the car's flanks.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jack. Forgot to say that it was Ilford FP4 - probably using a
>> Z1 and Pentax-A 28mm.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>> On 24 March 2017 at 13:36, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>>
>>> Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
>>> Love the B, Chris
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Chris Mitchell" 
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
>>> Subject: My attempt at car photography!
>>>
>>> While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
>>> entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
>>> Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
>>> think of this:
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
>>>
>>> Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
>>> this close-up of the badge:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
>>>
>>> Any comments gratefully received.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chris
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/3/17, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
>entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
>Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
>think of this:
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0

Really nice shot Chris. I like how you've kept the outline of the car
free from background clutter. They only thing that would improve it
would be the use of a polarising filter to combat sky reflection.

Nice one!

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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Paul Stenquist]

Nicely rendered, but too wide a lens for my taste. It yields a "fat front end" 
look. In addition to a longer focal length, a polarizer would have served you 
well. Finally, try to shoot at magic hour when the light comes from a low 
angle. That will illuminate the car's flanks.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jack. Forgot to say that it was Ilford FP4 - probably using a
> Z1 and Pentax-A 28mm.
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On 24 March 2017 at 13:36, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
>> Love the B, Chris
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Chris Mitchell" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
>> Subject: My attempt at car photography!
>> 
>> While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
>> entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
>> Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
>> think of this:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
>> 
>> Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
>> this close-up of the badge:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
>> 
>> Any comments gratefully received.
>> 
>> Thanks, Chris
>> 
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Chris Mitchell]

Thanks Jack. Forgot to say that it was Ilford FP4 - probably using a
Z1 and Pentax-A 28mm.

Chris

On 24 March 2017 at 13:36, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
> Love the B, Chris
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Mitchell" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
> Subject: My attempt at car photography!
>
> While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
> entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
> Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
> think of this:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0
>
> Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
> this close-up of the badge:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0
>
> Any comments gratefully received.
>
> Thanks, Chris
>
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Re: My attempt at car photography!

[Jack Davis]

Beautifully positioned in an ideal setting.
Love the B, Chris

J

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Mitchell" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:25:58 AM
Subject: My attempt at car photography!

While I was going through masses of negatives to decide on my PUG 20
entry, I came across a session that I did for a friend who has a 1970s
Aston Martin V8. I'd be interested in what the car buffs on the list
think of this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkwexm6zmxcjyzx/John%20Aston%20Martin002.jpg?dl=0

Also my friend allowed me to spray his beloved Aston with water to get
this close-up of the badge:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qekjtfgbg83f1nz/John%20Aston%20Martin003.jpg?dl=0

Any comments gratefully received.

Thanks, Chris

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