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I must say I appreciated James Craven's last posting on URPE/RRPE issue a lot.
No nonsense--straight talk. I think JC's comment could be divided into two
parts. One simply says that
Subject:Re: The Cold War
Gil, you SOB, you're absolutely right on this. Despite your usual
petty-bourgeois revisionist snivellings, _ad hominem_ attacks
should play no role on pen-l.
Joking aside, when criticizing someone's views, please let's
restrict ourselves to (1) the logic of the
"...models and theories of 'traditional' economic geography seem to
fall short. Studying 'economic regions' invites the danger of
confusing appearance with explanation and, at best, tends to abstract
regions from their context. The traditional approach to economic
regions has been undermined
After posting a message about the near-tautology and non-
falsifiable character of the "rationality" assumption in
economics, I stumbled on a prima facie case of economic
IRrationality that indicates that maybe the "rationality"
assumption is falsifiable:
at the campus stamp machine last year,
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Gil Skillman seems offended that Jim Devine warns us that
his rejection of the classical surplus approach to value
Doug Henwood wrote:
The modeling of social life as a set of simulataneous [sic]
equations is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Doug
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Originally
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I haven't seen them in the Washington Post. Isn't that shocking?
Nancy Breen
NIH
Just thought I would send this along for pen-l folks who might not
read this list. Much of this information or information that
parallels it can be found in Michael Levine's "The Big White Lie"
(memoirs of a 25 year undercover DEA agent).
It is a bit removed from the etherial level of
Dear Trond,
Thanks for your work in this area. I have been interested in the area of "Political
Economiy of the Media" for many years. Here is a model that I developed and use when
discussing the question of why journalists all over a given country invariably cover
the same stories, ask
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The key to the whole issue is that only 40-50 percent of the
electorate in the U.S. bothers to vote on
With all this talk by Clinton and others about how "America" and "We"
are "number One", I just thought we might talk about some of the
areas in which "America" is "Number One" among 19 industrialized
countries. The following was taken from "We're Number One: Where
America Stands--and
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From the Wall Street Journal, Sept.
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Subject:[PEN-L:6207] Dick Morris and my confession
At the gym today, I picked up
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Eban, I don't know the exact
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Subject:[PEN-L:6619] a nobel puzzle
Suppose you won the Nobel prize and wanted to put it to use to make the
society you live in improve as much
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Subject:[PEN-L:6791] Re: pen-l
I for one would object to Shawgi Tell's postings being barred from PEN-L.
I don't read them all; very few, in fact.
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So far two people have spoken up for the usefulness of Shawgi's postings,
several for freedom of
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The first economics class I took as an undergraduate at Yale, where I
eventually got a B.A. in economics, was
Just about everyone I know has horror stories from graduate school
about perceived scholar despots, inner cliques, "old boy networks
etc". But that level gets us no where beyond anecdotes.
A few years ago Dave Colander and Bob Coats edited a book "The
Dissemination of Economic Ideas" based on
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Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA
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Priority: normal
The tabloids reported t
Two economists (one a Chicago School devotee of Uncle Miltie and one
A Rational Expectationist) were walking down the road and came across
a pile of shit. The Chicago School devotee of Miltie offered the
Rational Expectationist $20,000 to eat the shit. After a quick
optimization calculation,
Doug Henwood writes on pomo:
A theoretical problem: if there is no truth, only provisional constructions
of truth, and if there is no master narrative, but only a polyphony of
local narratives and situated knowledges, than how can you criticize the
official (celebratory) version of history
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Subject:[PEN-L:7436] Re: more science!
At 2:57 PM 11/17/96, James Michael Craven wrote:
Gradually
through debate, cross-testing provisional
Doug Henwood Wrote:
I'm not sure how people are defining contingent work, but MANPOWER, INC., the
daily hiring agency used for restaurants and blue collar laboring work is now
the largest employer in the united states.
Well, yes, but there's not much rigorous evidence that this is the
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At 2:17 PM 12/31/96, James Michael Craven
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At 2:17 PM 12/31/96, James Michael Craven
I just thought I would forward this from Darwin-L for food for
thought.
"The men of experiment are like the ant, they only collect and use; the
reasoners resemble spiders, who make cobwebs out of their own substance. But
the bee takes the middle course: it gathers its material from the
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Maggie Coleman asksdo you think this quote [about business
reluctance to hire economics Ph.D.s] is referring to Chicago or
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Commentary: Documents show U.S.
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Subject:[PEN-L:7823] Stiglitz to WB
one possible point in J. Stiglitz's favor: hasn't he written a
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Doug writes I'm amazed at how contingent work in general gets
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At 12:40 PM 12/31/96, James Michael Craven
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Subject:[PEN-L:8012] Re: contingent work
At 2:17 PM 12/31/96, James Michael Craven
Doug Henwood wrote:
Well, yes, but what are we to make of this?
LFPR EPR U
195033.932.05.7
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change +25.7 +24.3 -0.2
The discouragement/U effect may apply over the business cycle, but there's
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Perception in this area is fairly important. There have been lately a
number of
Perhaps add to this list a new book out called "The Great Wave: Price
Revolutions and the Thythm of History" by David Hackett Fischer,
Oxford, 1996.
Jim Craven
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Let a hundred flowers bloom; let all ideas contend. The delete key is
on the right side of the keyboard below insert and to the left of end-
--for those so inclined.
Jim Craven
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Perhaps add to this list a new book out called "The Great Wave: Price
Revolutions and the Thythm of History" by David Hackett Fischer,
Oxford, 1996.
Jim Craven
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Heard on Roach Limpbone:
It seems that in order to promote the concept of ebonics recognized as
a separate language from which to proceed to build foundations in
"formal" english, the proponents have proposed a "Miss Ebonics"
beauty contest. When the idea was pitched, 49 out of 50 States
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At 12:10 PM 2/4/97, D Shniad wrote:
"Karl Marx argued that capitalism needs a 'reserve army' of
You all know about the Darwin Awards - It's an annual honor given to the
person who did the gene pool the biggest service by killing
themselves in the most extraordinarily stupid way.
The 1995 winner was the fellow who was killed by a Coke machine which
toppled over on top of him as
It's simple: outsource up to but not beyond the point where the
marginal cost of outsourcing one's children equals the marginal
benefit and... Market "Efficiency" Uber Alles.
SUBJ:
Bill Adler To Outsource Children
GRANADA HILLS, CA - Bill Adler, UNIX System Administrator and father
of two
In response to private correspondence, I should have added some other
categories:
progressive adacemics (tenured and non-tenured) who are isolated from
colleagues and access to big grants and publications in "prestigious
journals" as a result of the stands they have taken and who, for
their
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James Michael Craven wrote:
I would not characterize thi
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Jerry, please. I do not know Hinrich's politics or why he chose
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Letter from Chief Sealth to President Franklin Pierce--1855
" The Great Chief in Washington sends word that he wishes to buy our
land. How can you buy or sell the sky--the warmth of the land. The
idea is strange to us. Yet we do not own the freshness of the air or
the sparkle of the water.
For those teaching Intro or Intermediate Macro or Micro, you might
want to take a look at "Economics and Changing Economies" by
Mackintosh, Brown, Costello, Dawson, Thompson and Trigg, 1996,
Thomson Business Press, The Open University (Milton, Keynes, UK).
It is based on an Open University
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Just came back from Browning to interview candidates for a postion
here and will be going back. I thought I would share this with the
pen-lers. This is from one of the BLackfeet Elders given to
graduating high-school students.
"25 Things you'll Need to Know Now That You've Graduated From
Every now and then I watch Politically Incorrect to see the evolution
of Disney's market niche. They frequently will have some person
designated as a "conservative activist" from some organization with a
title like "National Council for Family Values" or something like
that. When you research
Economics
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I posted this previously with no response. I got a lot of response on
the subject of "high-class
Dear Pen-lers
This is my last post. I tried to send this directly to Ms Quan and
Harry Cleaver but my mail was returned. I'll use this medium for the
last time on this issue. Notice, I sent a response and got something
immediately back. Why? What do my views matter? This cover I could be
Part of it was cut off (see below)
You forgot:
12. __ I lost the syllabus and didn't know when the exams were.
13. __ I am sorry I have an average of less than 40. What can I do
for extra credit?
In a message dated 98-02-26 16:39:49 EST, Jim Craven writes:
For those on
For those on pen-l who are teaching and are continually swamped with
begging and appeals for grade changes, I thought I would share a
standardized form that I use in order to get to the point quickly and
efficiently.
UNIVERSAL GRADE CHANGE FORM
Food for Thought (from "Beyond Capital" by Istvan Meszaros):
"Contrary to widespread belief, popularized by the legitimate
fears of green movements, the shadow of uncontrollability is
not a new phenomenon. Although undoubtedly it has become much
darker in the twentieth
I love this one! "in the name of science"
Ok, the story behind this... There's this nutball who digs things
out of his back yard and sends the stuff he finds to the
Smithsonian Institute, labeling them with scientific names,
insisting that they are actual archeological finds. The
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In a message dated 98-02-24 12:12:01 EST, you write:
The character Rose as a metaphor
for all the women
OK how about Faustus?
To add to the Titanic Metaphor list: The character Rose as a metaphor
for all the women who are told that the ultimate and pinnacle of
achievement is to become an ornament of some rich scum and who seek
self-actualization and independence in a system that commodifies
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In a message dated 98-02-19
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One important aspect of the Titanic disaster not mentioned in the film
or on
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What a lovely idea, Jim!
Haven't seen the film, but here are a couple of
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I am having a bit of a battle at my company with a manager who is a
Druckerite over
I don't like markets in general. Prostitution is just a commercialization
of another human relationship.
I think Fred Lane is onto something in looking at the class nature of th
subject.
Some sleeze cruises around and picks on a poor young girl who has few
options in life. He has
I passed along Valis' and Jim Craven's comments on Nina Hartley porn to
Susie Bright - an anarcho-marxist aka Susie Sexpert - who writes:
Nina is a very special woman, but her college education and leftie
political opinions are not as rare in the sex industry as the writer
imagines. In fact,
Too much! Who has the barf bag?
Just what homage does Paul Kneisel - the same whose Computer Kills
Fascists - imagine he is paying to truth and proportionality by
introducing us to Nina Hartley? How many Berkeley faculty brats
with a magna cum laude degree in a marketable skill does he
On Thu, January 8, 1998 at 11:02:39 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes:
William S. Lear wrote:
Bright nor Hartley
Remember that these two women are socialists whose critique of degradation
and exploitation focuses on wage labor, not sex.
Yes, quite right. It's easy to get sucked into a pointless
James Michael Craven wrote:
I'm sure that the few rich Jews of Hungry had rationalized away or
insulated themselves from knowing exactly what fate awaited the other
Jews that they helped to identify, register, collect and have
deported.
Am I the only one who finds this analogy offensive
At 04:01 PM 1/8/98 -0500, Susan Fleck wrote:
What's different between prostitution and many marriage contracts?
1.prostitution is sex for direct payment of money,
marriage is sex for indirect payment of money/financial security.
Response: Marriage is or equals sex for indirect payment of
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Jerry Levy's discussion of anarcho-Marxists is very welcome. My
understanding is that the difference between "antiauthoritarian Marxists" (a
redundant phrase, at least in my book) and pure anarchists is that while the
latter want to abolish the state as soon as possible, the former want to
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This kid, little Johnny, was assigned to do a high-school paper on
"What is a market economy?". At dinner, he asks his Father to help
him. The father, somnewhat flustered, remembering the D he got when he
took economics, said: "Well a market economy is a system in which
people play different
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It is interesting to note that the chaos/complexity "paradigm" is
often portrayed as "cutting edge; the notions of hidden order in
complexity and complexity out of assumed order, fuzzy logic, strange-
attractors, spirals rather than linear chains of causality etc.
The earilies known date of
In my Macro courses, I find that when I am discussing the concepts
and paradigms embodied in the so-called "Natural Rate of Unemployment"
or target rate of unemployment, bringing in Marx's Industrial Reserve
Army opens up all sorts of discussion and thought. "The industrial
reserve
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In a message dated 98-02-09 14:48:09 EST, you write:
s this really going to happen? I find it
This guy was sitting in his car on I-405 in LA surrounded by wall-to-
wall cars with nothing moving for miles. He figures it is due to some
kind of accident way up ahead. He then sees this guy going from car
to car with a bucket talking to each motorist and figures he'll find
out what's
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James Michael Craven wrote:
For my classes in which there are some who have had
I teach a journalism history survey course at the undergraduate level, and
the Titanic takes up most of one lecture. It is important historically in
mass media (and mentioned in all recent mass media history survey texts)
as one of the factors in the passage of the Radio Act of 1912, which,
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In a message dated 98-02-20 12:12:40 EST, you write:
Aside from those rather snide comments, I think the more interesting question
is how to get some of these lefty journals talking to each other and the rest
of the profession rather than addressing their little piece of audience.
Feminist Economics was named one of the year's best journals
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Over the weekend, I heard an album by the anarchist-singer U.
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For my classes in which there are some who have had a problem
demonstrating "command of the subjects" through the usual examination
modalities, I have given the following extra-credit assignment:
"The central concerns of 'Mainstream Economics' are seen by some as
analogous to concern with
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What the fuck's this line of discussion about?
(Canadian) Sid
Of course.
As an addendum to previous remarks, the ultra-rightist "property
rights" arguments are being examined for some dialectical turnabout
by some of the Tribes. Where the "property rightists" argue that any
social legislation that abridges, modifies, eliminates the effective,
full and
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Comment: This piece was simply very well done and to the point. Under
the old formulae of Reagan/Bush, the oil-holding Tribes were ripped
off for over $5 billion through systematic and calculated under-
valuation of oil and mineral assets. Add another $3 to $5 billion of
BIA accounts suddenly
I lived in Puerto Rico 1983-86 and worked as a Senior Planner for the
Planning Board of the Office of the Governor of P.R. My original
assignment was to work as a project leader restructuring and
examining the input-output system used for planning and forecasting
estimates.
After some time I
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
there is a better chance a woman being
brutalized by someone with whom she is in non-commodified relationship (a
boyfriend or a husband) than by a 'john' in the commodified sexual act.
This is not only too much faith in the equality
A couple of quick thoughts in response to Valis' remarks
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And how much of a connection is there between her polished ideological
trumpetings and the terms of Fred Lane's original request?
Actually, in Paul's defense, enough to make it worthwhile. Hartley had
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I heard a report this morning on (US) NPR about the abuses that many
Canadian Indians
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