Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 9:58 AM +0200 8/1/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Jerry Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leopold Toetch wrote: Both ways - or better three stages: Its optional. If its there, we *can* link against it. If you want/need it, and your OS doesn't have it, well, then install it. and if you don't want

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and therefore ICU will continue to stay in CVS as part of parrot. Period. The alternative here is the same alternative as with GMP and big numbers--we can yank ICU *if* someone writes an alternate Unicode implementation for us. --

The Roadmap

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
I got asked a lot at OSCON, and this has been something of a topic on and off on the list. I've committed a DESIGN_TODO file with brief details of what I think still needs working on, which I'll be adding to as things make themselves obvious (I've got a bigger list on paper this morning) so

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 6:20 AM -0700 8/3/04, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: --- Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and therefore ICU will continue to stay in CVS as part of parrot. Period. The alternative here is the same alternative as with GMP and big numbers--we can yank ICU *if* someone writes an alternate

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Leon Brocard
Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: If someone's tempted to do 3) Write our own Unicode system, I'm OK with that too. The string internals doc needs writing, and I can get that done. IIRC the mono people wrote their own, but with the ICU data files. Apart from license

RE: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Garrett Goebel
Joshua Gatcomb wrote: Dan Sugalski dan at sidhe dot org wrote: ... and therefore ICU will continue to stay in CVS as part of parrot. Period. The alternative here is the same alternative as with GMP and big numbers--we can yank ICU *if* someone writes an alternate Unicode

PMC basics

2004-08-03 Thread Leopold Toetsch
I know this was discussed earlier, but I think its still an issue. First python's usage of values aka builtin objects: 1) almost all opcodes create a new object as result (the value) 2) LOAD_NAME | STORE_NAME (or _GLOBAL or _FAST) opcodes deal with variables, the value is fetched or stored from

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: If someone's tempted to do 3) Write our own Unicode system, I'm OK with that too. The string internals doc needs writing, and I can get that done. IIRC the mono

Starting to make things final

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
In what's seems a rather bizarre twist, Parrot's getting production ready. Yes, I find this really strange, and no, I'm not even talking about my work project, though I probably should. Python and PHP are both near-beta ready, and Span looks... well, it looks damn nice. As such, I think we're

Everything Parrot

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Scott
I've had this list lying around for too long, but never seem to find time to make it all shiny and complete. I want to have another go at the html documentation. But before I start I'd prefer to have a good list of everything Parrot. That way I can build a proper subject view of the project.

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandao Simoes
Although I sent this ideas to this list, with another subject, here they go again to enter in the correct thread. I think that to have ICU included both in CVS and tarballs created for parrot is not the best way. I know Dan (and maybe some others) do not want to depend on too much libraries.

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 7:22 PM +0100 8/3/04, Alberto Manuel Brandao Simoes wrote: Although I sent this ideas to this list, with another subject, here they go again to enter in the correct thread. I think that to have ICU included both in CVS and tarballs created for parrot is not the best way. I know Dan (and

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Josh Wilmes
At 18:46 on 08/03/2004 EDT, Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone's got the time and I spec out the encoding and charset APIs, I'd be thrilled if ICU became optional again. Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. We need it, because we need Unicode, but it doesn't have to be

Re: Starting to make things final

2004-08-03 Thread Gregor N. Purdy
Dan -- Thanks for mentioning Jako. It usually gets no respect. :) But, I think Jako is working for some definition of working. But, it is clearly not an idiomatic compiler in that its using old conventions (not surprising, given its history). Did I miss the creation of the compiler-writer list? I

(De-Lurk)

2004-08-03 Thread Andrew Rodland
Hello, folks. Just wanted to let people know, I've been following parrot and reading the list for a while now, but just recently I finally co'd a copy of parrot and decided it was time that i actually did something with it. The first thing I did was do some work on making it nice in the editor

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

2004-08-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:32:33PM +0100, Alex Gough wrote: For what it's worth, I checked a parrot out for the first time in ages a couple of days ago (the Shub-tuit gives, as the Shub-tuit takes away...), but got all stuck failing to work out how to get icu not to be a problem, and so get

Declaring MMD Subs from PASM/PIR

2004-08-03 Thread chromatic
Hi all, I'd like to register some subroutines defined in PASM (or better, PIR) as participating in multiple dispatch. This is very handy when writing Test::Builder::is(), for example, which can compare two strings, integers, numbers, or PMCs, or for calling NCI functions which can take various

Re: Starting to make things final

2004-08-03 Thread Melvin Smith
At 05:13 PM 8/3/2004 -0700, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: Did I miss the creation of the compiler-writer list? I need to figure No, we are still holding our breath (and turning blue, purple, green, ...) Btw, I'll poke the Cola rewrite I have here and see where it stands. It gathered a bit of dust in the

[perl #30946] [PATCH editor/imc.vim.in] Add Macro Highlighting

2004-08-03 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by chromatic # Please include the string: [perl #30946] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org:80/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=30946 Hi there, Here's a small patch that adds syntax highlighting to macros in .imc and