I have the following in a grammar
rule TOP{ ^ + $ };
rule statement { '='
| { { self.panic($/, "Declaration syntax
incorrect") } }
};
rule endvalue { '(' ~ ')'
| { self.panic($/, "Invalid declaration.")
.
Regards,
Richard Hainsworth
(finanalyst)
s would need to have vetted the modules in
the bundle, especially those without all badges.
Regards,
Richard
On 10/14/2015 05:54 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote:
On 10/13/2015 10:52 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Following on the :D not :D thread, something odd stuck out.
On 10/13/2015 03:17 P
Following on the :D not :D thread, something odd stuck out.
On 10/13/2015 03:17 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote:
But hopefully none of them breaking backwards compatibility on such a
large scale. The last few backwards incompatible changes still cause
pain in the ecosystem. We have 390+ modules, and
Is there an error in the cascade? Shouldn't the indices be 'a', 'b',
'c'; not 'a','a','a' ?
On 08/10/2015 11:26 PM, yary wrote:
with, without look awesome.
-y
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, GitHub nore...@github.com
mailto:nore...@github.com wrote:
Branch: refs/heads/master
I was trying out macros and run into an anomaly. Not sure what is happening.
I tried a macro snippet as a standalone script, then tested exactly the
same in REPL. It worked in REPL, as in the hash variable was changed.
But the hash variable stayed the same in the stand alone. What am I
Dear Perl6 community,
Since this is my first use of git, I did not do what I intended, which
was to create a new branch to show my suggestions. Apologies.
Some time back, I suggested revising the front part of all the Synopses
and rewriting Synopsis 1.
Basically, it seemed to me that the
On 12/19/2013 10:32 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:27:32AM +0800, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
I've been running a perl6 program that runs through a loop, dumps
intermediate results and starts again with new initialisation
values.
[...]
Looking at system resources
I've been running a perl6 program that runs through a loop, dumps
intermediate results and starts again with new initialisation values.
The program runs fine for the first three loops, but does appear to slow
down and on the fourth time though hangs.
Looking at system resources, the program
Initially I though the following was a bug, but now I'm not sure.
I got these results
perl6 -v
This is perl6 version 2013.09 built on parrot 5.5.0 revision 0
$ perl6
say '0' xx 4
0 0 0 0
print '0' xx 4
print 's' ~ ('0' xx 4)
s0 0 0 0
I'm not sure why the elements of the expansion are
OK x not xx.
The doubling of operators is confusing.
Richard
On 12/19/2013 10:01 PM, Jonathan Worthington wrote:
On 12/19/2013 3:47, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Initially I though the following was a bug, but now I'm not sure.
I got these results
perl6 -v
This is perl6 version 2013.09 built
is in a sense always arbitrary, at least now it's
programmable.
// Carl
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Richard Hainsworth
rich...@rusrating.ru wrote:
Moritz,
You are the everflowing font of knowledge. Thanks.
However, I read the synopsis on objects and did not find the .get_value
method
I ran into a problem at the weekend and reduced it to a fragment and
then looked at alternatives.
The problem is in snippet bug2_2 below. There is a type check that
fails, but the types appear to be the same. This may be an existing bug.
The problem is that when I put the return type in the
Perhaps I am using class incorrectly, but I set up a class, then change
some of the parameters in an instance of the class. Next I would like to
discover what the current state of the instance is.
However, I could find no specification of how to access multiple
attributes, as opposed to
to
attributes?
Richard
On 10/28/2013 01:45 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote:
Hi Richard,
On 10/28/2013 08:07 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Perhaps I am using class incorrectly, but I set up a class, then change
some of the parameters in an instance of the class. Next I would like to
discover what
There are two issues here.
a) Using language in a consistent manner in Perl6 space
- the word 'specification' is used in Perl6 space both in the way it has
become acceptable in computer language design circles, but also in a new
and more nuanced way in Perl6.
- Perl6 is being developed using
On 09/30/2013 02:16 AM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 02:03:43AM +0800, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Not wising to disagree with PM, but |docs/feather/syn_index.html
states on line 1:|
The Synopsis documents are to be taken as the formal specification
for Perl 6 implementations
, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:28:48PM +0800, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
However, the Synopses are now primary specification and the
Apocalypses have only historical significance. Also there are more
Synopses than Apocalypses.
One correction: The test suite (roast
Some suggestions about documentation.
Originally the Synopses were implementation oriented sumaries of the
previous description base Apocalypses. That meant that the Synopses were
derivative and secondary to the Apocalypses
However, the Synopses are now primary specification and the
of the power of HoTT
is that it is possible to create computer-aided proof assistants. Sets
do not implement well on a computer.
In other words, perhaps sets, which have already been ring-fenced by
existing implementations, can be cut from the perl6 specification
altogether?
Richard Hainsworth
I noticed that subst-rw does not have is export in the definition.
Does this mean that subst-rw is not available outside the module?
Richard
On 06/09/2012 02:20 PM, GitHub wrote:
Branch: refs/heads/master
Home: https://github.com/perl6/specs
Commit:
On 05/23/2012 03:35 AM, Parrot Raiser wrote:
Perl 6 is awesome.
agreed
snip
In short, Perl 6 is awesome: Extremely impressive or daunting, inspiring awe.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/awesome?view=uk
That is a problem, if we want to get it adopted widely and quickly.
Not convinced
If you're asking for an explanation of the humour, then it's easy. There
is no word play or a significant reference to a program only available
to a special audience.
Seems to me that when Damian got to the end of his email he noticed that
each sentence ended in a '?'
That's not usual. Most
On 11/17/10 14:03, Moritz Lenz wrote:
Am 17.11.2010 10:31, schrieb Kris Shannon:
$duration * $duration# WRONG, durations aren't geometric
$duration * 2# ok, a duration twice as long
2 * $duration# same
What are your thoughts?
I've summarized my
I do want the diffs back: its the only way I have to keep at least some
idea of what is changing any why.
Dont care if I'm called an old foggy either - 1997 wasnt that long ago
for me.
On 09/08/10 13:32, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 07:41, Jason Switzerjswit...@gmail.com
If I might offer a late viewpoint after reading the Aaron's expanded
email (attached below).
When originally I suggested using 'open' instead of 'connect', the aim
was to keep consistency with the paradigm of files on the local system.
However, as Aaron's post suggests, when dealing with
Ideally [at least, what I would like], managing a file on a remote
resource should be the same as managing one locally, eg.
my Amazon $fn = open($path-to-input-file-location/$file-name, :r) or
die $!;
for $fn.readlines { };
$fn.close;
my Google $fn =
After reading this thread and S17, I have lots of questions and some
remarks.
Parallelism and Concurrency could be considered to be two different things.
The hyperoperators and junctions imply, but do not require, parallelism.
It is left for the implementors to resolve whether a single or
, and daylight saving
differences would automatically be taken care of.
Regards,
Richard Hainsworth (finanalyst)
Damian Conway wrote:
Personally, I'd prefer to see the English conventions carried over to
the use of general use of hyphen and underscore in identifiers in
the core (and everywhere else).
By that, I mean that, in English, the hyphen is notionally a
higher precedence word-separator than the
I too re-read PM's journal. Note his explicit desire to avoid
'stability' as a goal at this stage for rakudo because of its imprecision.
We often use words that have different shades of meanings for different
people/situations, eg., what is a 'short' time? Consider how a child
might answer,
I know PM does not like the word 'stability' for language development,
and I have just posted a response to Wendell Hatcher's question
justifying Patrick's approach.
However, some other questions arose when I was considering 'usability',
which Patrick sets as a goal for Rakudo *, as opposed
Re-posting to list.
Original Message
Subject:Re: Where's the release announcement?
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:39:17 +0300
From: Richard Hainsworth rich...@rusrating.ru
To: Darren Duncan dar...@darrenduncan.net
References: 4ba329a0.7030...@rusrating.ru
4ba32f1e
-03-20 às 12:16 +0300, Richard Hainsworth escreveu:
Suppose we define a domain of stability as syntax/functionality/features
that will not be changed until a milestone is reached, with the
guarantee that if the language specification changes before then,
backwards compatibility
Is there a glitch in the mail list system for p6l? I got the Copenhagen
release announcement on the parrot developers list but not on p6l.
Also activity on p6l seems light recently, but this may just be random
flow fluctuation.
To add to Daniel's comment.
Lets recast the time/date discussion in another way.
The way times and dates are quoted (human time) depends on:
- religion denomination: the Jewish, Muslim, and Bahai religions have
their own calendars as part of their religions; Orthodox and Catholic
(including
+the calls stack is actually unwound to run. That is, just because an
+exception is thrown past a stack frame does not leave the block, since
+the exception might be resumable. It is only if an exception is not
+resumed that the stack is unwound the the phasers called.
'just because ...'
a) How many of the gripes are affected by Damian's new draft ? I found
many of my pet irritations were eliminated by the new one.
b) I suggest that Damian's new draft is committed as S-26 forthwith and
development begin on it.
c) Some of the comments in threads on documentation have been
Suggest:
=head1 Regexes constitute a first-class language, rather than just being
strings
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On Jan 16, 2010, at 01:47 , pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
-=head1 Regexes are now first-class language, not strings
+=head1 Regexes are now a first-class language,
David Green wrote:
I'm wondering whether we can make use of the contrary sense implied by
the word but, and have it apply specifically to cases where
something is being overridden. In cases where there isn't something
to override we could use a different word, such as with.
I must admit to
Just got error from new clone rakudo directory, Viz.
rich...@jupiter:~/Development$ git clone git://github.com/rakudo/rakudo.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /home/richard/Development/rakudo/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 22035, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (5908/5908), done.
Ovid wrote:
At the BBC, we never encounter this because semantically different methods are
renamed and semantically identical methods are refactored (aliasing and
excluding being code smells). However, if roles start making their way on to
the CPAN, you won't necessarily have control over
Ovid wrote:
I recently was trying to research some composition issues with roles and one of
the researchers directed me to this paper:
http://scg.unibe.ch/archive/papers/Duca07b-FreezableTrait.pdf
Basically, the problem they have is this T1 (Trait 1) and T2 each implement a public x()
Ovid wrote:
--- On Thu, 15/10/09, Richard Hainsworth rich...@rusrating.ru wrote:
Later S14 has:
There are several ways to solve method conflicts. The
first is simply to write a class method that overrides the
conflicting role methods, perhaps figuring out which role
method to call
For the slides on Rakudo, I would suggest adding the modules that are
associated with proto as measure of code written in perl6. There is a
list of 27 projects. proto in itself is an interesting installer.
Also, the number of tests written for perl6 is substantial (18,000 vs
1,400 for Ruby -
Carl Mäsak wrote:
Darren (), commit-bot ():
+Returns a TAI epoch value for the current time.
Shouldn't the result type of time() be an Instant object (Instant and
Duration are defined in S02) rather than a Rat?
I fear that the Instant from S02 is a fossil. Instant was renamed
Suggest
s/right argument/right-hand argument/
Also suggest
s/** 2/** $y/
since it seems strange to be referring to a right-hand argument which,
in the example, is a constant.
pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
Author: carlin
Date: 2009-08-25 08:48:35 +0200 (Tue, 25 Aug 2009)
New Revision:
I think this is a much more flexible system than those suggested so far.
It seems to me that this approach
- lets the OS and the implementation deal with pathways that are valid
(taking into account locale and OS constraints).
- defines only that part of the location/directory tree/file system
I like this way.
Would it be possible to remove the special purpose of \ from strings
within IO constructs?
This would mean '\' could be used in naming paths as an alternative to
'/', thus allowing windows and unix strings to be equivalent, eg.
IO(:path{$root-path}/data/new) would be
Referring to Patrick's blog about an official 'useable' version of
Rakudo, a suggestion:
Since Rakudo* (not sure how it is to be written) is intended to be a
cut-down version of perl6.0.0 that is useable, how about Rakudo-lite?
Its just that */star/whatever doesnt convey [to me] the fact
One of Masak's irritations with perl6
(http://use.perl.org/~masak/journal/39334) concerns interspacing POD and
code.
I ran into an analogous problem with a project I am trying to do with
perl6. Since perl6 doesnt yet link to the gd library, and I need
graphical output, I use perl6 to compile
Larry Wall wrote:
snip
Well, regardless of whether there are extra spaces, please note that
the default stringifications are not intended as a serialization
format. They are intended only to provide a bit of human readability
for the common case of small, spaceless items such as numbers and
I came upon the following, which seems to be in line with spec, but I
think is inconsistent.
I write a hash to a file delimited by tabs, eg
my $fn=open('data.csv',:w);
my %x=one two three four Z 1,2,2.1,3;
$fn.say('record-name'~map(\t$^a\t$^b),%x);
$fn.close;
The output sometimes contains
Is this a good place to come with code that runs into speed problems?
I am writing a program in perl6 to read the xml file from a Sony book
reader, list the books, and move books into collections (the Sony
software to do this will only work on windoz and not on wine).
I have a grammar that
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Mark Overmeer wrote:
Currently in CPAN you have modules like:
Digest::MD5
Digest::SHA
Digest::MD5::Perl
Digest::SHA::PurePerl
The difference is that the first two are implemented in C and the
later two in Perl.
This is comparible to adding a target to each of the
Before joining in the previous CPAN threads, here are some personal wish
lists regarding what the perl6 version of CPAN should do. But in order
to get some distance from CPAN, I want to call it the Module Library
system. Some of the debate threads impact on the internal software
environment,
:
Richard Hainsworth richard-at-rusrating.ru |Perl 6| wrote:
Once a module has been decided on, you look to see if there is a
binary that matches your internal environment. If not, you have to
roll your own from source.
Why not have it generate the binary for you, and safe it for future
On #perl6 Larry said that STD is a part of the specification for perl6.
Would it be possible to include a link to STD.pm in the list of official
documentation?
There are things in STD that are not in the specifications, eg., default
values for optional parameters should come after traits
Larry Wall wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 08:40:12AM -0700, Dave Whipp wrote:
That said, the semantics of a chained relop really should work correctly
for this. If you only reference a junction once in an expression, then
it should behave as such: {abc} !=== {ab bc}.
Yes, that is
Thinking about Jon Lang's -1|+1 example in another way, I wondered about
simultaneous conditions.
Consider
$x = any (1,2,5,6)
How do we compose a conditional that asks if any of this set of
eigenstates are simultaneously both 2 and 5?
Clearly the desired answer for $x is False, but
my $x
This email was mistakenly not sent to the p6l list.
Jon writes:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Richard Hainsworth
rich...@rusrating.ru wrote:
Jon Lang wrote:
In Junction Algebra, Martin Kealey wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Mark J. Reed wrote:
( $a = any(-1,+1) = $b
Daniel Ruoso wrote:
The thing is that junctions are so cool that people like to use it for
more things than it's really usefull (overseeing that junctions are too
much powerfull for that uses, meaning it will lead to unexpected
behaviors at some point).
What are the general boundaries for
Included in my 'On junctions' message were some questions that have not
been directly answered. I simplify and expand them here.
Here I use === to mean 'is the same as'.
(I am not sure which of == or === should be used.)
1) Is the following true for an any junction?
any( ... ,
The following arose out of a discussion on #perl6. Junctions are new and
different from anything I have encountered, but I cant get rid of the
feeling that there needs to be some more flexibility in their use to
make them a common programming tool.
Background: Imagine a hand of cards. Cards
Just read nearly 100 emails on Re: Logo Considerations, a whole lot in
reverse order and repeated! Is this the result of a perl6 implementation
of a listserver using junctions?
But I agree with Brett, Camelia is the first logo idea I really liked.
I vote we tell Camelia she has the prize she
Hats off to the designer of the gimel symbol - the associations with
anarchy are probably right for perl6. But to be honest, a letter didnt
quite inspire me. Since, I dont want to criticize without providing
other ideas, here are some thoughts.
Logos can contain meaning. I am not sure whether
But I recently read this on irc:
2009-03-12
23:16pugs_svnr25809 | lwall++ | This decrease in consistency on
the syntactic level is offset by an
23:16pugs_svnr25809 | lwall++ | increase in consistency on the
semantic level, as suggested by rouso++.
23:16pugs_svnr25809 |
Original post not very clear. So here goes again:
First statement (below) says: dot forms of adverbs eliminated.
Second appears to say: adverb form is translated to dot form.
Richard Hainsworth wrote:
But I recently read this on irc:
2009-03-12
23:16pugs_svnr25809 | lwall
The following (the n: is to mark the lines) are legal:
1: my @x = 1,2,3,4; ([+] @x).say; # output 10
2: my @x = 1|11,2,3,4; ([+] @a).perl.say; # output any(10,20)
3: my @x = 1|11,2,3,4; ([+] @a).eigenstates.min.say; # output 10
However, the next line isnt
4: my @x = 1,2,3,4; ([+]
Jonathan Worthington wrote:
Richard Hainsworth wrote:
snip
Eg.
$ perl6
my @s=1|11,2,3,4,5,6;my @x; loop {...@x=@s.pick(3);([+]
@x).eigenstates.min.say}
8
6
Method 'eigenstates' not found for invocant of class 'Integer'
You can detect junctions by smart-matching against the Junction type
Various Appocalypses, Exegeses, and Synopses use rules in example codes.
These were gathered together by PM and implemented in PGE. Larry asked
for them to be listed in S05 for a short description to be added.
Timothy Nelson added them and I have just described them.
This yielded some extra
The official Perl6 Documentation site http://perlcabal.org/syn/ list
this document as
special-names
not special-variables
variables is more constrictive, so suggest a change in name of pod.
pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
Author: wayland
Date: 2009-02-23 04:47:22 +0100 (Mon, 23 Feb 2009)
Here is a list of rules (see below) that are spread around the language
design documents, but which lack a home in which they are systematically
canonically defined.
I suggest they be added to the new S28 (which is possible if S28 is
special-names, not special-variables)
Richard
Where can
Dave Rolsky wrote:
After some discussion I made a number of drastic revisions to
S32-setting-library/Temporal.pod
What I want to see in Perl 6 is a set of very minimal roles that can
be used to provide a simply object from gmtime() and localtime().
These objects should not handle locales,
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
snipbe specifying our files; it's prettier than File::Spec :), and
unified.
Anyway, HTH,
I like all the default suggestions.
Not sure whether this means you completely agree
disagreement:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
snip
$dir = new IO::Dir(/home/wayland);
@files = grep { -f } @$dir;
But this is exactly what I think should be avoided. -f implies that
the location $dir contains things other than files. But that is an
artifact
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
Hi all. I know we usually run on forgiveness instead of
permission, but I'm suggesting a big change (or extension, anyway), so
I wanted to run the ideas by you all before I put the effort in. If I
don't get feedback, I'll just make the changes.
The first
VERY stylish!
For example, some questions:
To what extent is the vertical alignment important? Does it indicate
some form of seniority within a category?
Where do the terms iffy dotty fiddly, etc come from? STD.pm?
Where do the categories Jungian, Jungior etc come from?
Just an excellent
to discover container objects (files, archives, databases) in them.
Richard Hainsworth
(Daniel Ruoso also proposed to call the adverb :test
instead of :ok, making it easier to read but a bit
longer; my happiness doesn't depend on the exact name,
but of course we can discuss it once we have settled
on this scheme, if we do so).
My two-cents worth:
The adverb on a boolean
Can I suggest a new method to be declared with enums, viz. .face
enum day Sun Mon Tue Wed Thur Fri Sat;
my $today does day;
$today = prompt Type in a day of the week ;
#later
say $today ; # prints 3
say $today.face; #prints Wed
Whilst having an enum being a list of values is useful, not
Following the request for ideas on IO, this is my wish list for working
with files. I am not a perl guru and so I do not claim to be able to
write specifications. But I do know what I would like.
The organisation of the IO as roles seems to be a great idea. I think
that what is suggested here
Just as a variable name in perl6 must conform to a standard and abide by
a set of constraints, why should file or other resource names be an
exception?
The constraints on variable names in perl6 are very flexible, but there
are some rules that must be enforced for a program to work.
It
The S16: chown, chmod thread seems to be too unix-focussed.
Perl6 is being born in a world dominated by the internet. Whilst perl
was the glue for the internet when the internet was born, it was a unix
child. I learned perl from a Windows perspective and I found the
discussion of ownership
Two sorts of testing - a) compiler, b) modules.
Each category has different environment and function.
a) compiler.
An official test suite is defined (and probably will be added to as
corner cases / ambiguities are discovered and disambiguation decided, so
presumably some standardisation of
these concepts give a programmer that cannot be
obtained from the roles/class/object hierarchy?
Regards,
Richard Hainsworth
How about 'contingent blocks', because they are contingent on some
event, without having to use the word 'event'.
Richard
TSa wrote:
HaloO,
Larry Wall wrote:
Hmm, maybe control event blocks and control events, then...
I would call them flow blocks because this is where they are
called and
this through The Perl Foundation and you will get a clear answer.
Richard Hainsworth
Uri Guttman wrote:
RH == Richard Hainsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RH No one likes bureacracy. But I feel much happier about handing over
RH money, or persuading someone else to hand over money
In my $life, I raise money from sponsors.
It is not difficult to spend money, once you have it.
It is not difficult to raise money, once you know how to spend it wisely.
What's difficult is putting the two together.
Some donors know what to contribute to - they choose specific projects
and
Me too. $500. That's 3*500, so far.
Can I do this through the Perl Foundation as an earmark?
Conrad Schneiker wrote:
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could take a month's sabbatical from my
, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
No one likes bureacracy. But I feel much happier about handing over money,
or persuading someone else to hand over money, to a group of people with
established procedures and collective responsibility, than to some
enthusiatic individual who promises the earth and whose
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:43 , Richard Hainsworth wrote:
I posted an idea about pluralisation could be handled in a way that
would not be English-centric (Subject: interpolation
contextualisation). There were no responses to the idea. Was it so
bad? Did no one
Warnocked!
I posted an idea about pluralisation could be handled in a way that
would not be English-centric (Subject: interpolation contextualisation).
There were no responses to the idea. Was it so bad? Did no one see it?
Was it too un-perlish? Was the title too horrible?
The basic idea
Perl - when I first met it - was great because it handled text easily
and 'naturally'. I now use perl for everything, even when another
language would probably be better.
Perl6 has gone a long way to making things more universal by using
UNICODE, (The difficulties of non-Latin fonts and
Its only English centric if the idea is fixed to plurals, because its
only for plurals where English words are mutated by grammar rules.
In other languages, words are mutated by other factors, such as the
gender of the word, the case, and the number.
The problem can be quite difficult, say
May I suggest the following extension to the 'use ' pragma, viz.
use module name written in unicode and case sensitive in filename as
constrained by local system
For justification, see below.
asideThere were some hot replies to what I thought was a fairly
trivial question. A corollary
Not sure whether this should be p6-lan or p6-users. Posted to p6l only.
Given a function implemented in parrot, how can it be called from a
perl6 program?
Suppose I have a file (in current path)
myfun.pir
which contains
.sub myfun
.param pmc passed_variable
.local int an_int
chromatic wrote:
On Saturday 08 December 2007 06:50:48 Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Surely, some concentrated thought by the inventive and resouceful minds of
who lead this project should go into language utilisation and
popularisation.
My goodness, @Larry's pretty darn busy trying
snip
I've never said that switch ... case was better than given ... when
or that switch ... case was even a good construct.
I have said that given ... when sounds weird as a construct
(not mentionning the use of past participle and on top of that of an
irregular verb).
I understand the meaning
snip
I don't know why, this given... when sounds so 'English' without
really being that
English.
The construct given ... when sounds better in English than switch ...
case ... because:
a) Switch is more commonly used in English as a noun, eg., Use the
switch to turn on the light. But because
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