Re: [Pharo-project] Merging one-click and pharo-dev

2008-10-22 Thread Lukas Renggli
Then, you can embed the latest one into a One-Click that you generate (it seems I can't generate them myself because I don't use MacOS, but I'm not sure). Don't know if you need macos, could be. (never tried it on linux). In general it would be nice to be able to build the one-click

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 22/10/2008, at 6:38 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: It is absolutely evil to display anything else than if there are super (up triangle) or sub implementations (down triangle) next to method. I just lost 10 minutes, because of these agressive green arrow that mark methods calling super. Whilst I

[Pharo-project] [update] 10102

2008-10-22 Thread Marcus Denker
- Issue 277:SelfEvaluating Arrays - {$a. Array. 1} instead of {$a . Array . 1} - Issue 265:TODO: (simple): remove Browser printOut menu - Issue 251:remove ref Parser from getSourceFor:in: - Issue 249:add regexps to core image -- Marcus Denker -- [EMAIL

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread David Roethlisberger
It is absolutely evil to display anything else than if there are super (up triangle) or sub implementations (down triangle) next to method. I just lost 10 minutes, because of these agressive green arrow that mark methods calling super. I couldn't figure out why the method wasn't run as

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Dan Corneanu
Wouldn't be enough for deprecated methods to just use a strikethrough font style? ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Lukas Renggli
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Dan Corneanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't be enough for deprecated methods to just use a strikethrough font style? +1 Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Torsten Bergmann
use a strikethrough font style? +1 For icons: why not reuse some of the Eclipse icons. As far as I know they are free to use and some developers might be familiar with them [1]. Would also be good to work with small overlays/decorators as Eclipse does [2]. Bye Torsten [1]

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 22/10/2008, at 11:37 PM, David Roethlisberger wrote: But in the columns of OB we don't have enough space to also add meaningful decorations to icons. The screenshot I posted was OB, and I have arbitrary space. You just need to address a particular OB flaw - the use of Text as the

Re: [Pharo-project] OldSocket removal

2008-10-22 Thread Dan Corneanu
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Dan Corneanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While playing with the OldSocket classclientServerTestUDP method I found out that a call to SocketdiscardReceivedData is blocking and this is not what happened with OldSocketdiscardReceivedData. An extra test for available

Re: [Pharo-project] OldSocket removal

2008-10-22 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Dan Corneanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Dan Corneanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While playing with the OldSocket classclientServerTestUDP method I found out that a call to SocketdiscardReceivedData is blocking and this is not what

Re: [Pharo-project] Merging one-click and pharo-dev

2008-10-22 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general it would be nice to be able to build the one-click programmatically. There should be a one-click package-generator in the image. It should be easy in Bash, I can try. However, I don't know how it can be done in

Re: [Pharo-project] Merging one-click and pharo-dev

2008-10-22 Thread Keith Hodges
Lukas Renggli wrote: However if you are using linux then you should be fine, the Squeak.app is just a folder with a bunch of files/folders. It would be good to have a SakeTask for generating one click images, that can be incorporated into Bob. Keith

[Pharo-project] Returning something when debugging

2008-10-22 Thread Damien Cassou
I've just discovered something today: when you are debugging you can always return from the current method by right-clicking on the stack frame and selecting 'return entered value'. You then get an input field where you can enter any expression and the result of that expression will be evaluated

Re: [Pharo-project] Merging one-click and pharo-dev

2008-10-22 Thread John M McIntosh
That is preserving any resource fork, and meta-data from hfs file attributes. Also so retains the hidden file that is used by the finder to format the folder view. It doesn't need to be present I believe in order for the re-zipped app to run, however I'd just keep it for now. After you

[Pharo-project] changes file

2008-10-22 Thread John M McIntosh
I note I downloaded the current pharo image/changes for pushing out on the iPhone and noticed the changes was 10.5MB, but if I condense it becomes 4.2MB which is much easier to deal with if I include it in an iPhone.app I'm wondering here if you need to push out the changes with all the

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for ImageSegment tests

2008-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 21, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 16:05 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi all if by any chance you have some code that could be turned into tests, or some tests or some time to write tests for image segments this would be great because etoy is really

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for ImageSegment tests

2008-10-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 22, 2008, at 22:04 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 16:05 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi all if by any chance you have some code that could be turned into tests, or some tests or some time to write tests for image

Re: [Pharo-project] Size of objects

2008-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
may be compare with the vw version I remember that lomg time ago in book of the guy doing june there was some code to do that http://www.sra.co.jp/people/aoki/ in freedocument thenSmalltalk Idioms in English then chapter 3 Here let me introduce a program that finds

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo Sprint, 26.10

2008-10-22 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We are organizing a Pharo Sprint (that is: a hacking session) about Pharo this Sunday. Date: 26.10 Time: Starting 11h Where? Lille, France Depending on how many people want to come. Likely it will be at Stef's place. Please send me an email ASAP if you want to join. Then we decide

Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions

2008-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yo know this is really funny that I hear myself pronocing open... when I want to get mc browser and for a while I was looking for the open Stef On Oct 21, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: The recently logged changes menu item has been reintroduced in the world menu refactoring

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
hi antony can you explain the icons what the arrow up means ? and the others? Stef On Oct 22, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Antony Blakey wrote: On 22/10/2008, at 6:38 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: It is absolutely evil to display anything else than if there are super (up triangle) or sub

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for ImageSegment tests

2008-10-22 Thread John M McIntosh
We used imageSegments in Sophie to store cached font information, we then attempted to store a few more binary objects that way but soon discovered it was flaky. Flaky meaning when we loaded an image segment it would crash the VM, but not always. We didn't have time to figure out

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/10/2008, at 7:21 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: can you explain the icons The left arrow, which comes in three forms - up, down and updown, indicates declared-in-super/subclass. It is not overloaded with any other meaning. To the left of that is space for a green '+' that indicates

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/10/2008, at 7:19 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: would be nice to know do whom I'm replying. Me. But still there is a value in knowing that the method is doing a super call or not. The indicator means that the method use the keyword super. So this is valuable. I cannot see why it is

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/10/2008, at 1:06 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: I disagree. I exclusively use OB in productive development on a daily bases for over 2 years now. Decent selection support? Multiple selection? Dynamic filtering? Rich labels? Trees? Multiple 'definition' edges? OB is usable today, and I

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/10/2008, at 1:05 AM, David Roethlisberger wrote: Any possibility to see how you do this browser? It's a commercial effort, but I will explain it. Could you elaborate on that? I don't quite get this. How is the fact that we use text (or string) to represent labels of items to be

Re: [Pharo-project] OB annotation icons

2008-10-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/10/2008, at 9:40 AM, Antony Blakey wrote: A video of it in action in VW is here: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/antony/blogView?showComments=trueprintTitle=A_VW_command_model_and_UI_inspired_by_TextMateentry=3395013105 I should point out that the VW version has none of the

Re: [Pharo-project] Merging one-click and pharo-dev

2008-10-22 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is preserving any resource fork, and meta-data from hfs file attributes. Also so retains the hidden file that is used by the finder to format the folder view. It doesn't need to be present I believe in order for

Re: [Pharo-project] OldSocket removal

2008-10-22 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:24 PM, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Michael R suggested I bundle these up, recheck them, so who would I send them to? You should commit them directly to PharoInbox on SqueakSource. As an alternative, you can upload it to