Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-29 Thread Kan-Ru Chen
Hi there, I'm not aware this discussion is also happening on the list. Although I'm subscribed to the list but I only check it infrequently. Please feel free to CC me when there are Debian package related issues : -) Myself is also a Emacs user so naturally when I packaged picolisp I also

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-24 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Just for the list info, here is the reply I got from the Debian packager. The good news is that thanks to his work we're going to have even better integration on Debian :) JC > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Kan-Ru Chen" > Subject: Re: picolisp on Debian (raspbian) > Date: January 25,

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-23 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Rick, Thank you again for your multiple thoughtful and detailed replies :) > On Jan 23, 2019, at 17:09, r...@tamos.net wrote: > >> The discussion is not about changing anything for people who already use one >> or the other mode. It is about proposing something easy to use *and* not >>

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-23 Thread rick
Hi Jean-Christophe! Sorry, I forgot to address the other things you mentioned. On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 02:33 -05:00, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > The discussion is not about changing anything for people who already > use one or the other mode. It is about proposing something easy to > use *and*

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-23 Thread rick
Hi Jean-Christophe! Trying to clear up maybe some confusion (and I had already started composing this too long ago :). On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:17 -05:00, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > 1) On debian and related distributions, the picolisp official mode is > installed by default Just to be

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread rick
Hi Jean-Christophe! On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 02:33 -05:00, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > There is also a maintenance issue for the official mode. From what I > understand, there seems to be 3 different versions of that mode and the > authors are not active anymore (and have not been for 6

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Rick, Thank you for explaining your position. My wording may have been clumsy but I agree with everything you write. The discussion is not about changing anything for people who already use one or the other mode. It is about proposing something easy to use *and* not confusing to new comers.

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread rick
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 16:11 -05:00, Alexis wrote: > Having said all that, if the PicoLisp community generally felt it > would be best to settle on the mode currently bundled with the > distribution as /the/ Emacs mode for PicoLisp, and wanted me to > remove my mode from MELPA - or at least, rename

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread rick
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:47 -05:00, andr...@itship.ch wrote: > In the end everyone should use whatever fits that person the best, > we don't need one way to rule them all. > > - beneroth Exactly. Well said, beneroth. I too am an emacs user. I use tj's picolisp-mode. I'm glad other people are

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:00, Alexis > wrote: > > Having said all that, if the PicoLisp community generally felt it would be > best to settle on the mode currently bundled with the distribution as /the/ > Emacs mode for PicoLisp, and wanted me to remove my mode from

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Alexis
andr...@itship.ch writes: I greatly enjoy using paredit, which works well. I have not tried out the other emacs modules for picolisp, and I don't know if the one in MELPA works well with paredit, which I see as the essential feature for an emacs picolisp-mode. i myself don't use paredit

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread andreas
I'm working with picolisp and emacs, also using the older picolisp-mode which comes with the picolisp distribution (the official upstream one from http://software-lab.de/down.html). I greatly enjoy using paredit, which works well. I have not tried out the other emacs modules for picolisp, and

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 23:23, Alexander Burger wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:41:24PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >> The problem is that on Debian (and derivatives) the most recent mode that >> Alexis has developed is not available. I discovered that when I found >>

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Alexander Burger
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:41:24PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > The problem is that on Debian (and derivatives) the most recent mode that > Alexis has developed is not available. I discovered that when I found > discrepancies between the mode in raspian and the mode on my Mac when I

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 22:04, Manuel Cano wrote: > > Hi, > > As an Emacs user, it would be nice to have Picolisp package in Debian > updated. I use Emacs but I've tweaked some other lisp libs. > I don't use MELPA either. The problem is that on Debian (and derivatives) the most recent mode

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Manuel Cano
Hi, As an Emacs user, it would be nice to have Picolisp package in Debian updated. I use Emacs but I've tweaked some other lisp libs. I don't use MELPA either. Kind regards, Manu El mar., 22 ene. 2019 a las 10:20, Jean-Christophe Helary (< brandel...@gmail.com>) escribió: > > > On Jan 22,

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-22 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 15:58, Alexander Burger wrote: > > Hi all, > > Or should we change the one in the distribution? I can do that, but as a > non-emacs user I don't know exactly what is needed. So if there is a general > agreement, please let me know what I should do. It would be nice to

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-21 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all, > > There are currently 2 picolisp modes for emacs, one is distributed with > > picolisp and the other is on melpa. Is there a reason for that ? > > Yes: > >https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/2514 > > One of the MELPA maintainers said in that thread: > >If the time comes

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-21 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Alexis, Wow :) Thank you for the information. My current issue is that Debian installs the distribution picolisp-mode by default and for some reason the melpa package (yours) is not available. Also, on Debian (well, it was Raspbian but I guess that's the same), when you open a picolisp file

Re: picolisp-mode

2019-01-21 Thread Alexis
Jean-Christophe Helary writes: There are currently 2 picolisp modes for emacs, one is distributed with picolisp and the other is on melpa. Is there a reason for that ? Yes: https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/2514 One of the MELPA maintainers said in that thread: If the time