Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Also, the Atom name, was once used for a British made computer called the Acorn Atom - back in 1980's . the era of the first QL machines too. The Atom was a fine machine, with a fast (if unusual) basic. *#*Snip#*# I

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes And you can get a BBC Interpreter for the PC... Derek I used to use a very good one for the 186, 286 and 386 early PC's, as this was the easiest way to do computer control projects at the time. I don't know what is

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IIRC Atom basic was an unstructured basic, fast, but with listingshard to follow because they were peppered with keyword abbreviations, pokes and symbols. There may have been similarities with BBC BASIC, but without the structures. Are you sure that wasnt just your code then, Dilwyn? ;o)

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Also, the Atom name, was once used for a British made computer called the Acorn Atom - back in 1980's . the era of the first QL machines too. The Atom was a fine machine, with a fast (if unusual) basic. *#*Snip#*# I

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Also, the Atom name, was once used for a British made computer called the Acorn Atom - back in 1980's . the era of the first QL machines too. The Atom was a fine machine, with a fast (if unusual) basic. *#*Snip#*# I though it ran BBC Basic, which was inferior but similar to SuperBASIC?

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And you can get a BBC Interpreter for the PC... Derek Dilwyn Jones wrote: Also, the Atom name, was once used for a British made computer called the Acorn Atom - back in 1980's . the era of the first QL machines too. The Atom was a fine machine, with a fast (if unusual) basic.

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 7 Sep 2008, at 17:24, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Does anyone know the specification of the Intel 1.66Ghz Atom ? Is it a RISC based chip, from the collaboration with the Cambridge based RISC company ? Also, the Atom

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

Also, the Atom name, was once used for a British made computer called the Acorn Atom - back in 1980's . the era of the first QL machines too. The Atom was a fine machine, with a fast (if unusual) basic. Those were the days for home computers you remember, unlike modern machines which

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi, I think that Richard has put his finger on it here ... where is the value ? The price point of a mini-laptop has to much lower than a standard laptop, the latter are now offering good value at the lower end of

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On 7 Sep 2008, at 17:24, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Does anyone know the specification of the Intel 1.66Ghz Atom ? Is it a RISC based chip, from the collaboration with the Cambridge based RISC company ? Also, the Atom name, was once used for a British made computer called the Acorn Atom -

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

Right now in the states there is a retail chain selling a Compaq laptop, Intel dual core, 2 giggles ram, 160giggles HD, 15.4 screen, Wireless and Vista, US $ is $430, thats about 245 of your pounds. This is being mentioned for comparison purposes -- Paul Holmgren Mine: 2 57 300-C's in Indy

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Paul Holmgren wrote: Right now in the states there is a retail chain selling a Compaq laptop, Intel dual core, 2 giggles ram, 160giggles HD, 15.4 screen, Wireless and Vista, US $ is $430, thats about 245 of your pounds. This is being mentioned for comparison purposes This is exactly the kind

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

On 7 Sep 2008, at 19:24, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I have a conventional Windows laptop of reasonable spec already, but fancied a small and light notebook to carry around with me when all I need is a tiny QL (possibly with wireless and/or web access) to carry around. If work-related, I'd use

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After using the eeePC 701 for a while, I gave it up as too limiting for my purposes. The battery life is crap, the fan whirres incessantly because the thing produces far too much heat. It also seems stupid to put up with a 7 screen when the box is more like 10. So all in all, after the initial

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On 6 Sep 2008, at 18:09, P Witte wrote: After using the eeePC 701 for a while, I gave it up as too limiting for my purposes. The battery life is crap, the fan whirres incessantly because the thing produces far too much heat. It also seems stupid to put up with a 7 screen when the box is

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

After using the eeePC 701 for a while, I gave it up as too limiting for my purposes. The battery life is crap, the fan whirres incessantly because the thing produces far too much heat. It also seems stupid to put up with a 7 screen when the box is more like 10. So all in all, after the

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

Hi everybody, I was able to use the Wind for a short while (Andrea bought one for herself)... Excellent machine: large display, harddisk, WinXP, Bluetooth, WLAN, no noise and very fast. QPC runs very well :-) And the resolution is fine for QPC. For Windows programs, I miss more lines on the

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Evening Jochen, just a quick word, I received the documentation upgrades safely. Thanks. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

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Wind? Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: SMSQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook Hi everybody, I was able to use the Wind for a short while (Andrea bought one for herself

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On 6 Sep 2008, at 19:47, Dilwyn Jones wrote: From what you've said, it seems that the cheaper systems aren't much good for regular use. What about someone like me who has an occasional need for a portable QL away from home, where weight and small size might be important? Or would I be

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Richard, Thanks for detailed explanation - below. There is no doubt that these devices are an interesting development that we will all get involved with. The 1.6 Ghz Atom processor is an example of that. On 5

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Per, I think that you are right. The mini-laptop devices are interesting, yet still developing in capability ... which is changing all the time. Which is why the MSI Wind U100 has been seen as a successor / rival to the Eee

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MSI Wind ... Medion and Plus sold them recently ... same model, but without Bluetooth. Jochen Ralf Reköndt wrote: Wind? Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: SMSQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] sub

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-Users] sub-£100 notebook Hi everybody, I was able to use the Wind for a short while (Andrea bought one for herself)... Excellent machine: large display, harddisk, WinXP, Bluetooth, WLAN, no noise and very fast. QPC runs very well :-) And the resolution is fine for QPC. For Windows programs, I

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On 6 Sep 2008, at 21:34, SMSQ wrote: MSI Wind ... Medion and Plus sold them recently in Germany... same model, but without Bluetooth. Also sold as the Advent 4211 in the UK, at £279. It's a 10.2 screen (so larger form factor), but still 1024 x 600; featuring built-in bluetooth is a

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I cn get the EEEPC for less than the prices you quote, but I would have to buy in batches of 10-20 to get the discounted price. I am not sure if there is a mrket for this type of thing. What do you think. Derek Not really - individuals may buy one if it fulfils a particular need for them,

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On 5 Sep 2008, at 11:55, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Not really - individuals may buy one if it fulfils a particular need for them, but I don't really think there's a market for them unless someone can convince us that a hard-disk-less computer running a (older?) form of linux with WINE and QPC2

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When new things like this come out, we should look at them since the combined cost of a Eeepc, WINE and QPC2 is a cheaper QL compatible (with benefit of Linux for those who like or use Linux) than any future QL compatible hardware is likely to be. You don't need WINE; Acer's Aspire One

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Hi Dilwyn, Good point. Does Windows run native on them or is it via some form of Linux interface? It is indeed a native OS. The Asus EE (that's the Yorkshire version) came out as a Linux system 'only'. It seems that MS 'talked' to Asus and lo, an XP version was the result. I

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I cn get the EEEPC for less than the prices you quote, but I would have to buy in batches of 10-20 to get the discounted price. I am not sure if there is a mrket for this type of thing. What do you think. Derek Not really

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Derek, The RRP is only a guide, and obviously these products become available at lower prices after a while. I dunno if there is a market for the Eee PC amongst QL users . Yet, these mini-laptops are an interesting

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Richard, Esus seem now to be pushing the 900 series and the latest 1000 series in their new advertisements. Which are obviously more capable. So, that is why the 700 series is being discounted. The Eee and Aspire

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On 5 Sep 2008, at 19:52, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Richard, Esus seem now to be pushing the 900 series and the latest 1000 series in their new advertisements. Which are obviously more capable. So, that is why the

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Thanks Richard for your informative and helpful machine assesments. However, about (8GB) SSD... I am ignorant! SSD? please Richard. TIA Greetings to all John in Wales ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

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On 4 Sep 2008, at 10:42, hitchies wrote: Thanks Richard for your informative and helpful machine assesments. However, about (8GB) SSD... I am ignorant! SSD = Solid State Disc. Smaller, more expensive per GB, and slower - but very hard to break. The primary drawback of a machine with

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Dilwyn, I have just bought the October issue of PC Pro magazine, and Asus, who make the Eee Pc have a massive 12 page advertising booklet within it. So, they do a very wide range of products. In the notebook (

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On 4 Sep 2008, at 20:26, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Dilwyn, I have just bought the October issue of PC Pro magazine, and Asus, who make the Eee Pc have a massive 12 page advertising booklet within it. So, they do

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Hi Malcom, I cn get the EEEPC for less than the prices you quote, but I would have to buy in batches of 10-20 to get the discounted price. I am not sure if there is a mrket for this type of thing. What do you think. Derek Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard

Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

On 2 Sep 2008, at 19:04, Dilwyn Jones wrote: We had a brief discussion of using the WINE/QPC2 combination on the new Linux-based notebook PCs such as the Asus Eeepc. I notice that Maplin are selling a £160 notebook and Elonex a £99 notebook along the same lines. Anyone tried these