Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
James Hunkins schreef: Tried running it and it listed the lines with these procedures as mistakes. It sounds like you have a toolkit or something that I don't have on my system. I am running the latest QPC beta release. jim SNIP 'PW' is a keyword found in ProWesS-Proforma (Joachim Vanderauwera PROGS) François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Working sotware (was Re: fast find)
After long technical studies of what was done in the past (ie before 1983) Tony Tebby did software that worked (and still works). That Marcel managed to make QPC work on top of Windows is a kind of miracle. Arnould On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 00:33:34 +, Roy wood wrote There are two parallel threads here. On the one hand people complaining about Windows and on the other people struggling with Linux, which, to the uninitiated, it a maze of undocumented and unhelpful commands. Does this not posit a hypothesis : i.e. no one writes software/OS that works - except perhaps Marcel. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Morning Jim, Tried running it and it listed the lines with these procedures as mistakes. It sounds like you have a toolkit or something that I don't have on my system. If these lines are flagged with MIStake : 1190 DEFine PROCedure PW(V) 1200 POKE_W Base + Offset,V 1210 Offset = Offset + 2 1220 END DEFine 1230 : 1240 DEFine PROCedure PL(V) 1250 POKE_L Base + Offset,V 1260 Offset = Offset + 4 1270 END DEFine Then do you have some other toolkit installed that defines the PW and PL 'keywords' perhaps? On an unadorned QL/QPC installation I don't know of PW or PL so the SuperBasic versions from Marcel should be ok. If your boot file loads some toolkits in prior to you loading the above code, then I suspect those extras are the cause of the problems. Can you boot a blank QPC and then run the EXTRAS command and see if you get PW and PL listed, if yo do, change the names in the SuperBasic listing to something other then PW or PL (plus the calling lines too of course) and see if that makes any difference. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Morning Marcel, Could you (and anybody else having increased cursor blink frequency) run this Basic program? Tell me what values it's printing (47 to 50 is normal). I'll give it a go tonight when I get home. Cheers, norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
James Hunkins a écrit : Tried running it and it listed the lines with these procedures as mistakes. It sounds like you have a toolkit or something that I don't have on my system. I am running the latest QPC beta release. jim OK, this is most probably due to the fact that when porting these lines from your mail app into QPC (perhaps via QD?) some TABS were inserted after the line number, to which SBASIC objects when loading the file- try editing the mistakes out via ED and re-run... Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
James Hunkins wrote: I don't have PW or PL commands on my system so this fails to run. It's a pure SBASIC program that specifically was written to not use any outside keywords. As François wrote there might be a name clash with a loaded toolkit, but then it's better to run the program on a clean system anyway. But feel free to rename PW and PL to anything you like ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] fast find
At 23:11 07/01/2008 +, you wrote: Go to control panel (classic view) - administrative tools - services Then find Indexing Service. Right click on it and STOP the service Right click and select properties - change startup to Disabled. Ah, thanks. Done. When clicking on 'Services' I get: Not only stopping indexing, also auto search network, and many other Services eat up runtime resources, here is a useful link. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1786008,00.asp ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Thanks all - it was the suggested imported tabs which became special characters and messed up the procedure definitions. Will test more tonight and report. jim On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:49 AM, James Hunkins wrote: Tried running it and it listed the lines with these procedures as mistakes. It sounds like you have a toolkit or something that I don't have on my system. I am running the latest QPC beta release. jim On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Jan 2008 at 23:29, James Hunkins wrote: I don't have PW or PL commands on my system so this fails to run. jim Neither do I, but I believe that these are basic procs defined in the program itself. Running it on QPC2 under windows gives me 49 or 50. I'll test tonight under Wine. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] 2.5 inch HD
hitchies wrote: Tony said (of me) - = Oh dear you misunderstand again I am afraid. Isn't text ridiculous. I have not intended to criticise or patronise or insult or anything else. I was just saying what I had experienced. I am sorry if you have read something else into the raw text. . I think I had better withdraw and not say anything more in the future = Thank you Tony; I fully accept that this originated in a hurried misunderstanding. If you withdraw, you will be sorely missed. :( I simply don't have enough time. I am re-developing a house and also program for worldnews.com . These activities actually pay the bills. I cannot afford expensive hobbies like the QL trading now. I will still be doing QL work, but only when I can. I cannot offer a sensible turnaround for work now. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Evening Marcel, Could you (and anybody else having increased cursor blink frequency) run this Basic program? Tell me what values it's printing (47 to 50 is normal). Ok, managed to get it to run quite happily - couldn't type it in though, too many foibles with the keyboard. Created a file in ~/.wine/dosdevices and loaded it from dos1_ - worked a charm and no problems with the PW or PL procedures. Anyway, I ran it and the results were : 3 (yes, three!) 50 48 49 43 49 50 50 38 and so on. There were quite a few 50s turned up after about 30 or 40 repetitions, then after a few dozen of those, it started varying again. The first run was a 3 that is ot a typo. I have just run it again and it started with 40, then repeated 50 a few dozen times before I CTRL-SPACEd it. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC and notebook
Norman Dunbar writes: Talking of which, I thought QL users just might get excited about: ASUS have created the brand new UMPC Eee PC 701 4GB for total mobile internet computing. £219.73 inc VAT Features Choice of black or white finish Simple and easy to use Fast boot up and switch on Powered by Linux Operating System (WXP compatible) WiFi 802.11b/g 900MHz Intel Celeron M ULV 512GB RAM 4GB SSD Memory 7 Display (800 x 480) 22.5 x 16.4 x 2.15~3.5 cm Lightweight at just 920g 1 x USB 2.0 SD expansion slot 10/100 Mbps Ethernet WLAN WiFi 802.11b/g Web-Cam etc Might make a nice QL system with uQLx or XP and QPC. Probably couldnt handle Wine.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
I get nearly all 50s after the first few startups. And I do see my CPU meter peg maximum while running this, just the same as if I am moving the cursor around the screen (idle mode it stays around 25-33%, Windows by itself is 5% in idle. jim On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening Marcel, Could you (and anybody else having increased cursor blink frequency) run this Basic program? Tell me what values it's printing (47 to 50 is normal). Ok, managed to get it to run quite happily - couldn't type it in though, too many foibles with the keyboard. Created a file in ~/.wine/ dosdevices and loaded it from dos1_ - worked a charm and no problems with the PW or PL procedures. Anyway, I ran it and the results were : 3 (yes, three!) 50 48 49 43 49 50 50 38 and so on. There were quite a few 50s turned up after about 30 or 40 repetitions, then after a few dozen of those, it started varying again. The first run was a 3 that is ot a typo. I have just run it again and it started with 40, then repeated 50 a few dozen times before I CTRL-SPACEd it. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Hi Norman, For tests, I've gone back to the normal Suse Kernal, but there was no change, it still works OK here. A -probably stupid - question: have you switched off all the stuff that Suse autostarts (e.g. the *- +**$ Beagle indexing, Man pages autoupdate etc...)? If not, could you leave the machine on for an hour while they do their stuff and then retry it? Perhaps the irregular keyboard is due to other jobs whittling away in the background? Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
On 8 Jan 2008 at 21:18, James Hunkins wrote: I get nearly all 50s after the first few startups. Do you have the same problem as Norman? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
On 8 Jan 2008 at 21:18, James Hunkins wrote: And I do see my CPU meter peg maximum while running this, just the same as if I am moving the cursor around the screen (idle mode it stays around 25-33%, Windows by itself is 5% in idle. It does that under a normal Windows, too, so that doesn't mean anything. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
The problem is that the CPU meter is pegging and it kills my laptop battery. On my office computer I don't care. I do not have this problem with any other Windows program. My case may be special as I run QPC in Windows XP but in a virtual machine on a Mac. I had the same problem with it back when it was the VirtualPC emulator. I see the cursor occasionally behave itself and then often just take off. Marcel and I have discussed this briefly before and it would seem that the pause mechanism that he uses between cursor updates/ pointer checks, etc. is handled differently on different systems. We even tried extending the delay period and it seemed to have no affect. Looking at this test code I am guessing that Marcel is verifying that the time clock function in QPC is reporting as expected, which I am guessing that it is. jim On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:49 AM, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: On 8 Jan 2008 at 21:18, James Hunkins wrote: And I do see my CPU meter peg maximum while running this, just the same as if I am moving the cursor around the screen (idle mode it stays around 25-33%, Windows by itself is 5% in idle. It does that under a normal Windows, too, so that doesn't mean anything. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Morning Wolfgang, A -probably stupid - question: There's no such thing as a stupid question! ;-) have you switched off all the stuff that Suse autostarts (e.g. the *- +**$ Beagle indexing, Man pages autoupdate etc...)? I have indeed turned them off. It's one of the first things I normally do after an install, however, just to be absolutely certain, I shall check again tonight. However, there is no disc accesses going on while I'm trying to run QPC unless I ask it to dddir iii1_ :-) I have to say that once again this list is proving just how friendly and helpful we are in the QL community. I have help from yourself and from Marcel - and why should he bother, QPC is a Windows program after all - but he is still helping. It is all very much appreciated. Thank you. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Morning Jim, The problem is that the CPU meter is pegging and it kills my laptop battery. On my office computer I don't care. I've just plugged QPC into my work PC running Windows 2000 - with QPC sitting there doing nothing the CPU is fine. When I simply move the move across the display, CPU flat lines at 100% - so your set up is not likely to be the cause. Better get it unplugged now - I'll get shot for having unauthorised devices plugged in! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Was that just the cursor or were you moving a full window? jim On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning Jim, The problem is that the CPU meter is pegging and it kills my laptop battery. On my office computer I don't care. I've just plugged QPC into my work PC running Windows 2000 - with QPC sitting there doing nothing the CPU is fine. When I simply move the move across the display, CPU flat lines at 100% - so your set up is not likely to be the cause. Better get it unplugged now - I'll get shot for having unauthorised devices plugged in! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC and notebook
Morning Per, ASUS have created the brand new UMPC Eee PC 701 4GB for total mobile internet computing. £219.73 inc VAT I saw a review of this recently in a Linux comic and while it got a pretty god review, it has afew faults as a Linux laptop. For running as a QL emulator base system, I suspect it will be fine. Wine might not be all that big a problem though - but who knows! I love this bit - I'm sure you meant MB by the way! 512GB RAM The 7 screen might be a tad small for my aging eyes though! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Hi Jim, Was that just the cursor or were you moving a full window? No, QPC was sat still in the corner and all I diod was move the mouse over the QPC display. All I has on screen were the wtv 4 windows and the button frame with pick, rjob, jobs, sysmon, clock and files all buttoned. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
