Re: [ql-users] Lynx

2006-08-06 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Hi, I am using lynx to view edit local HTML files. Thanks for the responses I have now solved my problem, basically the fork program that converts unix names to qdos is not found by lynx unless it is on the qdos default program device. There does not seem to be a system variable to set

[ql-users] Lynx

2006-08-04 Thread Duncan Neithercut
Hi, Help if possible please. I am using lynx 2.8.2 on QPC2. Previously I had it set up to use QD to edit the html file within but now this facility has stopped. I have the editor defined in both the lynxrc and the lynx_cfg as : fork Win1/PRG/QD98/QD which the correct path. I think I must have

Re: [ql-users] Lynx

2006-08-04 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:48:59 +0300,ο(η) Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε: Hi, Help if possible please. I am using lynx 2.8.2 on QPC2. Previously I had it set up to use QD to edit the html file within but now this facility has stopped. I have the editor defined in both the

Re: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-11 Thread dilwyn.jones
Lynx is GPL license and you should include the source. Perhaps the answer is to unzip on a linux box, change the directory names to shorter ones and zip it up again. Probably breaks terms of licence in much the same way and certainly fouls up replacement should Jonathan update it. What I've

Re: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-11 Thread dilwyn.jones
The answer is to create two zip files, one with the runtime version and one with the sources etc - we know the second one will not unzip on the QL properly. Then zip these two zip files together - so there is ONE download. The user can unzip on the PC and then access the runtime zip

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-11 Thread P Witte
Kjartan Geble Olsen writes: Norsk? But I can already hear the whining but I can't adapt my application to use the new traps as then it wouldn't be QDOS compatible anymore, so I probably just don't bother. Not trying to discourage anybody else, of course, it's just my view of things. Is

Re: [ql-users] Lynx and QPC2

2005-01-11 Thread jms1
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:21 AM Subject: [ql-users] Lynx and QPC2 skip To get a copy, goto www.dilwyn.uk6.net/internet/index.html or browse there from my home page of course. The idea

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-11 Thread jms1
- Original Message - From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282 Dilwyn Jones writes: I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. Poor old Dilwyn. My commiserations (in advance) for 2005. I

Re: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread dilwyn.jones
P Witte wrote: Marcel: Presumably, there is no 36 character limit on www paths under the TCP etc devices? Right, this is a character device. So couldnt the DOS device (easily) be made to work the same under TCP? Eg: No, DOS is a directory device. Marcel The whole situation

[ql-users] Lynx runtime

2005-01-10 Thread dilwyn.jones
I've put a minimal runtime-only Lynx 2.8.2. onto my website as per the email I sent last night. I've been asked to make clear that it should be installed in win1_L_ (i.e. directory called letter L in lower case rather than the number 1, which might not be clear from some character sets).

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes: Marcel: Presumably, there is no 36 character limit on www paths under the TCP etc devices? Right, this is a character device. So couldnt the DOS device (easily) be made to work the same under TCP? Eg: No, DOS is a directory device. I knew this was rubbish as I

Re: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn writes: OPEN#3,TCP_(very long URL name) or whatever the syntax will be - i.e. will any QL name length restrictions apply? I always thought that a non-directory device was not subject to the same name length limitation as a filename, or is any name qualifier on a non-directory device

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote: What I meant to ax was would it be difficult to make a 'hole' through QPC to the Windoze file system via the TCP driver, so that when the driver encounters a /dos/pathname/filename it wouldnt feel obliged to restrict itself to the QL file name conventions? Could be done, but

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread jms1
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282 Rich Mellor wrote: Do you want to put together a new zip which we can extract on the QL please Dilwyn... snip Next step

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread Marcel Kilgus
jms1 wrote: Lynx is GPL license and you should include the source. No, binary only is fine. A separate ZIP with the sources or a link to the original combined ZIP is good enough (and even that is not strictly necessary). Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:24:19 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut Next step is to assemble a Tim-Swenson style ready to go package, which I know will not meet with JRH's approval - I seem to remember a snooty email from JRH when Tim originally put it together. His package includes sources and

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:18:40 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. It starts off overwriting its own files as you unzip them because the path names are stored too long. Classic example of an author supplying a problem for you to use.

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. Clip Just what is happening? What's being done wrong here? Using Lynx 282, latest on JRH's website. The lynx_cfg and lynxrc files are meaningless garbage to me, so I haven't

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. clip Just what is happening? What's being done wrong here? Using Lynx 282, latest on JRH's website. The lynx_cfg and lynxrc files are meaningless garbage to me, so I haven't

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. Well, works here. ...without help to get over needless problems which should never have occurred int he first place. Thank you Marcel. Yet again. It now works. 130 SETENV TERMINFO=win1_LYNX282_terminfo_qdos That should be SETENV

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP And while I'm in a foul mood over another non-QL issue, will anyone having successfully installed a Tevion MD Slimline MD 42361 USB digital camera please contact me off list - it was bought by my father for my son from Aldi

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Hmm seeing as Dilwyn has mentioned running Lynx from within QPC2 - does Marcel want to actually let us poor mortals who do not have the beta version what v3.30 is going to contain - I guess the ability to access the

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
This is the problem with all the programs ported from Unix - no-one bothers to look at the documentation and see if it would make any sense to QL users. Guess that's why Linux is free but you pay so much to purchase a copy and get support... Linux ports to QL systems will be a waste of time

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 9 Jan 2005 at 18:02, Roy wood wrote: It is coming. Be glad he does extensive beta testing so it is us and not the users who find most of the bugs. I think the one I have here is probable release candidate - but then I have not made any of the other three betas fall over. Neither have I.

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 9 Jan 2005 at 17:34, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (...) I forgot it wasn't public knowledge yet. QPC2 v3.30 will have access to Windows TCP/IP much like how uQLx allows access to TCP/IP of the underlying Linux. It's not a general TCP/IP system like soql because it uses Windows. So don't expect

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:34:13 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the problem with all the programs ported from Unix - no-one bothers to look at the documentation and see if it would make any sense to QL users. Guess that's why Linux is free but you pay so much to purchase a

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Ah! So you don't use the real full filename of the file, you refer to terminfo_qdos as terminfo? So the filename must be made up of the joined together TERMINFO and TERM strings. Yes, that's the idea. You tell it where all the TERMINFOs are stored and which one of those you

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 at 16:38:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip It works now and just goes to show how lucky we are on this list to have our collective selves to help each other, especially people like That said, my wife bought a 3 year old BMW-Rover 25 before christmas. She's

RE: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Duncan Neithercut
Hi, Dilwyn wrote: Linux ports to QL systems will be a waste of time until either we all learn Linux or authors learn to make documentation make sense. Marcel has already explained about the terminfo, I didn't as its some time (years) since I set Lynx up and had forgotten I havent looked at email

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Jeremy Taffel
Under uQLx the apps have comlete unfettered access to the native unix file system. Therefore AFAIK none of the file name/path issues affecting Dilwyn would have hit users of Lynx under uQLx. ( I haven't tried it myself). So, the port of any unix programme onto uQLx can, and often does, make

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Medion is another of those makes so beloved of PC World (spit!) and they are hand in hand with Packard Bell for a. making crap b. not caring when a customer notices its crap c. not listening to anything you say or write because anyone who buys anything at PC World (spit) can't know anything

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Hmm seeing as Dilwyn has mentioned running Lynx from within QPC2 - does Marcel want to actually let us poor mortals who do not have the beta version what v3.30 is going to contain - I guess the ability to access the internet :-) It is coming. Be glad he does extensive beta testing so it is us

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Rich Mellor wrote: Do you want to put together a new zip which we can extract on the QL please Dilwyn... And maybe your sample boot file Well, I've made some progress. Lynx starts. Lynx browses websites. I can now display 'help' after fixing path and file names (the only way to get it to work

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes clip Well, that's the correct way to set up the home page according to Lynx!!! Local files (i.e. files on your computer) are worse, to set the above for a local file such as WIN1_TEST_FILE_HTML you'd need to unix-ify it a bit:

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Under uQLx the apps have comlete unfettered access to the native unix file system. Therefore AFAIK none of the file name/path issues affecting Dilwyn would have hit users of Lynx under uQLx. ( I haven't tried it myself). So, the port of any unix programme onto uQLx can, and often does, make

[ql-users] Lynx and QPC2

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
OK, time to eat my words. After a little while browsing with Lynx, I even downloaded a QPC2 update from Marcel's website using Lynx from within QPC2 itself. I hope I have now created a useable minimal Lynx distro on my website for download. Even this 'minimal' distribution is about 480KB in

Fw: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282 I forgot it wasn't public knowledge yet. QPC2 v3.30 will have access to Windows TCP/IP much like how uQLx allows access to TCP/IP

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. Poor old Dilwyn. My commiserations (in advance) for 2005. I agree with you that for us poor QLers Lynx is a malevolent and misogynistic piece of software. I also agree with Marcel (as he says further down the line) that it

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote: Marcel: Presumably, there is no 36 character limit on www paths under the TCP etc devices? Right, this is a character device. So couldnt the DOS device (easily) be made to work the same under TCP? Eg: No, DOS is a directory device. Marcel

Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2. Well, works here. I connected to my ISP from Windows, then ran the boot program for Lynx and all that happens is a brief flash of a Lynx screen and nothing, disappears without error or anything. Try ex