[ql-users] WANTED - 2nd Hand QL :-)
I have a customer who is looking for a 2nd hand QL in good condition - think he will pay around 45 pounds for it if anyone in the UK has one for sale. Please contact him direct: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot everyone. Rich Mellor RWAP Software 7 Common Road, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JR TEL: 01977 614299 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware
RE: [ql-users] Miracle Hard Disk
I couldn't find my version so that is a lucky break. Sorry. Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Miracle Hard Disk On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 at 11:14:27, Timothy Swenson wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony, I got some hard copy with the one that Ruth sent me. I can either photocopy and send via snail mail, or I can scan it in and send to you. Thanks - a scanned copy would be great, thanks. -- Tony Firshman This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] OT Texas
On 8 Apr 2002, at 23:00, Dexter wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Wow ! ... I guess everything in Texas is big then :-) I don't know about that, but they say that George W. Bush is half human, half texan. Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr
On 8 Apr 2002, at 19:59, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Seriously now, between what I saw Wolfgang and Marcel achieving with QPTR and EasyPTR respectively... I agree that at least ONE PTR toolkit (either) should be in one's arsenal :-) Oh but Marcel had the idea, not me. It's just a question of what you're used to. I never used EasyPtr, and found QPTR easy once I understood the concepts behind the PE. Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] SMSQ/E Source Code, general
On 8 Apr 2002, at 14:34, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: -not done via a Website or FTP. Not a safe way, sourceforge does not (always) use either, but it uses CVS. To make this safer, change it to not done electronically, with the exception of email or something similar. OK, I'll do that, thanks for the suggestion. How are you? Everything OK with you? How's your brother? Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] SMSQ/E license criticisms
On 8 Apr 2002, at 17:25, Dexter wrote: If you resent that comment, I didn't explain it properly. Or I didn't understand it. Yes, Tony will make a little money from SMSQ. I doubt the resellers will - they'll probably cover costs. I was trying to say that some of the money should stay with the people that are doing the work - the resellers. They are FREE to fix the price they want to sell it at. If they only charge 10 EUR, all of that goes to TT. If they charge eur 1000, still only 10 of that goes to TT... Sorry I caused offense. Case of too big a point expressed in too few words ?:o) No offense. I think we're getting along admirably! Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] SMSQ/E Source Code, general
On 8 Apr 2002, at 15:47, Richard Zidlicky wrote: probably wrong. It indicates that the provisorial license was so badly formulated that everyone found his loophole in it and was happy. Yes, that's another way of looking at it -so I was overly optimistic, then. the point is that with a usable licence you could have cured the split between Minerva, QDOS Classic (technically unrelated to QDOS) and SMSQ. With this license you only avoid new splits and new development in this one branch I will happilly contribute to whatever SMSQ alternatives there are. Ok, point taken - a pity, really! what about source only? You can distribute the source only, of course, but not electonically, it has to be an a physucal media. allright, someone will setup an rdist daemon than. This point is ridiculous. What is a website differnet from a mailing list or email list or TFTP or samba or NFS or snail or POP or IMAP or any other way to distribute the code? You are not alone in making this point, hence the not to be distributed electronically bit. You may choose following formulation for your license, perhaps it follows your intentions: Anyone is free to distribute the source code provided that: a) he doesn't receive any form of payment or reimbursement b) the distribution method is guaranteed to cost him at least 10 Euro and 2 hours of work per copy No, it must cost him more, since he must already pay 10 EUR to TT (but NOT for the cource code only). very helpful.. but I am not involved so why bother. Indeed. I will *more than happilly* leave the fun to disassemble broken SMSQ-Q40 code, diagnose problems in it and implement workarounds or fixes to the resellers who - according to your license - are obliged to do support. It is really nice to see appointed professionals and not some amateurs doing this. Indeed, again. Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] Source Code Status
On 8 Apr 2002, at 15:52, Richard Zidlicky wrote: don't say it will be open source then - it won't. True. Forget those who have seen this as a great chance for SMSQ. I still see it as such. You can still get the code, you can still make changes, you can still dustribute your changes in source code form. TT was ready to make available his treasure for *free* - and this is what comes out. Really pretty.. there was so little missing to make this a perfect world. Instead it turns into disaster. I entirely disagree, of course. This is no disaster. It is a different way to distributing it completely open, yes. You may be surprised that I perceive the situation so negative, it is because I assume we can hardly expect TT to do any work on SMSQ in the future and I am now pretty curious to see who who will work for free under this license. I will, if my job as registrar leaves me the time. Perhaps others will, as well. Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr
Dilwyn Jones writes: take on this task. I myself would be willing to do something for the (English) manual, if wanted. A note of caution: when I last spoke to him he said he had no English manual for it! I definitely have a comprehensive English manual! If Albin doesnt have one anymore, Ill be able to help out. It requires a bit of de-Germanisation and perhaps some streamlining (and any new features would have to be added ;)) Fear not! The Brits can have it in the only foreign language they understand: English! Per
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr
Wolfgang Uhlig writes: As far as I know, Marcel will try to get in contact with Albin in order to get him to correct and improve some things. But even so, if there is a possibility to do things, I am willing to contribute in any way I can. Concerning the german comments, if there are problems of understanding I could help. Perhaps Marcel knows differently, but I have the definite impression that Albin is not intending to do any more work on EasyPTR. I would of course love to help, but knowing my limitations, it would be foolish of me to step in where even the wise would hesitate to enter ;) BTW Welcome to the group! Per
RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr
I've had problems with both - never understood QPTR at all, docs were cr4p to say the least. Still got it somewhere - unused and as far as I can see, unusable. Even some of the demos (sprite editor) just give a no-entry pointer and hang. Not very helpful. As for DifficultPTR, well, Dilwyn knows the fun I had with that way back. When I eventually figured some of it out, I wrote it up in Quanta - and still use those notes today (!!!) when I try to do things. Then there was the C68 interface - again, too 'strange' for me to figure out. Maybe I'm too thik to be a programmer :o) Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr It's just a question of what you're used to. I never used EasyPtr, and found QPTR easy once I understood the concepts behind the PE. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr [OT]
-Original Message- From: P Witte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr Fear not! The Brits can have it in the only foreign language they understand: English! Q. What do you call someone who speaks 3 languages ? A. Tri-lingual. Q. What do you call someone who speaks 2 languages ? A. Bi-lingual. Q. What do you call someone who speaks 1 languages ? A. British. Why should we have to learn anything else - you all speak English fine, except maybe the Americans - tee hee ! (To all Americans, that was a joke - don't flame me (again) please !) Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr [OT]
I always think the right answer was : French -Message d'origine- De : Norman Dunbar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : mardi 9 avril 2002 11:32 À : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet : RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr [OT] -Original Message- From: P Witte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr Q. What do you call someone who speaks 1 languages ? A. British.
RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr [OT]
Nah, when I was in Paris, my wife did all the talking - she speaks it quite well - but everyone just said 'it's ok, we speak English' :o) Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Claude Mourier 00 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:34 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr [OT] I always think the right answer was : French This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr
... Then there was the C68 interface - again, too 'strange' for me to figure out. Maybe I'm too thik to be a programmer :o) Nah, it's just the windows concept of programming. I never got to grips with Windows programming on PCs or X-Windows. And as for C++ and Object Disorientated programming, well... Don't worry, fashions change, people will flock back to command line interfaces as something new, and realize how much more intuitive they are. Then our traditional programming skills will be sought after again. ;O) Ian. -Original Message- From: Norman.Dunbar Sent: 09 April 2002 10:22 To: ql-users Cc: Norman.Dunbar Subject: RE: [ql-users] EasyPtr I've had problems with both - never understood QPTR at all, docs were cr4p to say the least. Still got it somewhere - unused and as far as I can see, unusable. Even some of the demos (sprite editor) just give a no-entry pointer and hang. Not very helpful. As for DifficultPTR, well, Dilwyn knows the fun I had with that way back. When I eventually figured some of it out, I wrote it up in Quanta - and still use those notes today (!!!) when I try to do things. Then there was the C68 interface - again, too 'strange' for me to figure out. Maybe I'm too thik to be a programmer :o) Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr It's just a question of what you're used to. I never used EasyPtr, and found QPTR easy once I understood the concepts behind the PE. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990. Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
RE: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??
As always Sir Clive was a precursor : others take advantage of his technology. Mergetwo C5 (4 wheels) and add a motor and you get something that can earn money ;-) -Message d'origine-De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Envoyé: mardi 9 avril 2002 14:27À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Objet: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??I know that Sir Clive's skills lay in other places other than marketing, but has he sold out to the french I wonder??Just that I saw a TV advert last night for a Citreon C5 :-ORich Mellor RWAP Software7 Common Road, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JRTEL: 01977 614299http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware
[ql-users] Aurora problems
Hi all, I am turning to the list for any ideas... As you might have guessed at last I have a working (well sort of) Aurora setup... However I experience a couple of problems, mainly with resolutions. Specifically, I give DISP_SIZE 640, 480 but nothing happens (still 512x256). My Aurora is set up to use a Multisync non-interlaced monitor and SVGA I am running SMSQ/E v.2.91 I also changed the config blocks of SMSQ/E to all possible combinations for resolutions and aspect ratios ut to no avail... SMSQ/E still starts up at 512x256... The following also happens which may (or may not) be related... IPCMOUSE returns: BAD PARAMETER (The serial cable is connected in the right place and it worked in the beginning, but after a while stopped and now it just doesn't do anything) My setup includes the following: Aurora, Q-Plane (Mounted on a bracket sideways ;-) SuperGoldCard, superHermes RomDisq (2.14) 2 Mb QubIDE (2.1) with a Western Digital WDC6100 (6 Gb) drive as master (switchable through a Trios with a 512Meg CF card/adapter combo) and Maxtor AT120 (temporarily until I put on the CD-ROM) Thanks, Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 at 11:04:48, ZN wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 09/04/02 at 14:31 Claude Mourier 00 wrote: Clive Sinclair working for the French?? I know that Sir Clive's skills lay in other places other than marketing, but has he sold out to the french I wonder?? Just that I saw a TV advert last night for a Citreon C5 As always Sir Clive was a precursor : others take advantage of his technology. Merge two C5 (4 wheels) and add a motor and you get something that can earn money ;-) Citroen C5 has nothing to do with Sinclair, though I am sure their marketing department must have been caugh unaware by the history of that 'name' in the UK. The Cit C5 is named after it's pre (pre-pre-pre) decessor from the 1920s. Now if you don't mind, stop knocking down my favorite car manufacturer ;-) who actually has a lot in common with the QL, in philosophical ways. Although, I will be the first to acknowledge, Citroens can be a pain in the a... khm, neck when there is a problem, but when it all works, it's amazing. Just like with the QL, where you have to seek converts to computing in a better way, with Citroen you get to preach that there are better ways to drive around on 4 (and actually, even 3 - some will work without one rear) wheels! Oddly enough on the way back from the recent Eindhoven QL show, a Citroen in front of us had a flat tyre and diesel was pouring out of it. I pumped it up for him - but I see he could have driven without it (8-)# Great when they go well of course (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] OT: Clive Sinclair working for the French??
On 09/04/02 at 17:49 Tony Firshman wrote: Clive Sinclair working for the French?? Just that I saw a TV advert last night for a Citreon C5 Citroen C5 has nothing to do with Sinclair, though I am sure their marketing department must have been caugh unaware by the history of that 'name' in the UK. ...you get to preach that there are better ways to drive around on 4 (and actually, even 3 - some will work without one rear) wheels! Oddly enough on the way back from the recent Eindhoven QL show, a Citroen in front of us had a flat tyre and diesel was pouring out of it. I pumped it up for him - but I see he could have driven without it (8-)# If it's one with a hydropneumatic suspension, yes, it can go without one of the rear wheels, if the suspension is set to high (although this is really only for emergency). The suspension is self-leveling and it will try to do that even with no wheels - most of the weight being in the front helps with the 3 wheel situation. I've done it with the one I used to have for a bet (well, they wouldn't believe me until I showed them!). Unfortunately, this ability can also be a detriment. There is hardly any difference in driving with one of the rear tires completely flat, unless the car is substantially loaded, and even then it's not any great problem. If your hearing isn't so good, you may end up with a burning flat tire... As for the state of the car you mention, this is not surprising. Most Citroens, especially with hydraulic suspension get to be worn into the ground rather than serviced. The service outlets are it's biggest enemy and they are expensive, so people just keep driving on... I've had my hands (head, feet, body) in/under/over quite a few, the stories I could tell... Contrary to popular opinion, they are really not that complicated, just very different (sonds familiar? Almost on topic here :-) ). Nasta
Re: [ql-users] OT: Clive Sinclair working for the French??
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, ZN wrote: The service outlets are it's biggest enemy and they are expensive, so people just keep driving on... Yeah! A suspension sphere cost 44 pounds back in the days I had citroens. Changing them was no tougher than changing an oil filter - same skills required (twist off, twist on, just remember to jack the car up first ;) But for some reason they always thought they should charge 150 pounds for 'fitting'... Grrr. For on-topicness, has anyone ever used a QL in a mobile configuration, in, say, a car? Dave http://ql.spodmail.com/
Re: [ql-users] OT: Clive Sinclair working for the French??
At 02:03 ìì 9/4/2002, you wrote: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, ZN wrote: The service outlets are it's biggest enemy and they are expensive, so people just keep driving on... Yeah! A suspension sphere cost 44 pounds back in the days I had citroens. Changing them was no tougher than changing an oil filter - same skills required (twist off, twist on, just remember to jack the car up first ;) But for some reason they always thought they should charge 150 pounds for 'fitting'... Hehe I remember my late uncle's DS21 when he took it for service he was cursing a week before and a week after ;-) (And his wallet was empty too :-) Grrr. For on-topicness, has anyone ever used a QL in a mobile configuration, in, say, a car? A regular one could be used, an Aurora based one, I am afraid it could never survive the vibrations ;-) It's mechanically unstable as it is let alone on a car! Phoebus Dave http://ql.spodmail.com/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Ôï åéóåñ÷üìåíï ìÞíõìá åßíáé åëåýèåñï éþí. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.344 / Virus Database: 191 - Release Date: 2/4/2002
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr
Wolfgang Lenerz writes: Seriously now, between what I saw Wolfgang and Marcel achieving with QPTR and EasyPTR respectively... I agree that at least ONE PTR toolkit (either) should be in one's arsenal :-) Oh but Marcel had the idea, not me. It's just a question of what you're used to. I never used EasyPtr, and found QPTR easy once I understood the concepts behind the PE. Youre quite right. The only wee difference is that of designing graphical objects intellectually or visually ;) Per
[ql-users] ROMable SMSQ/E for Aurora?
Does anybody know if SMSQ for the Aurora can be ROMed? Also does anybody know which is the last Aurora version? (I have 2.91) Phoebus
[ql-users] Suggestions...
Ok, As many of you know, I have been away for some time, and am freshly back in the fold :o) I've been working on the Qeyboard, and pushing for ethernet hardware to be available, so we can help John Dent finish his TCP/IP stack - which I suspect will do more for the QL than most realise. I've also signed up to write an email client for all. Signed up, in the I'm dedicating myself to this task sense of the word. However, I've been away for a very long time, and have forgotten most of my QL-related programming knowledge, having become fat and lazy with my bash shell and gcc compiler. Therefore, I'm asking you what tools you think I should take advantage of and what tools to avoid. I have to build a software library from scratch, which I am sure will make the traders happy ;) Also, the way I am writing my mail client will practically require an 80 column width, and reasonably 25 rows. What suggestions do people have to do that, make it functional, and not be a screen hog? Finally, I plan to make the project Open Source in the true sense of the word. I will publish the sources and others are free to work on them. All I ask is that they feed back any improvements to me so they can be incorporated into my main release. The initial program would most likely be in SBASIC, to demonstrate the sections and modules (emails viewer, email viewer, editor, config, etc) but when I get back into the flow, I would prefer to go with C. Also, I have very kindly been loaned a Gold Card. This will open up some horizons for me, but I do want to make sure the program will run on even the most basic QL. Advice please! Dave http://ql.spodmail.com/
Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??
ZN writes: computing in a better way, with Citroen you get to preach that there are better ways to drive around on 4 (and actually, even 3 - some will work without one rear) wheels! Dont I know! Once, driving with a friend in his ancient Citroen D model in Africa somewhere, I saw this single wheel overtaking us on the left. We only realised it was ours later, when we stopped to take a look at it! Per
Re: [ql-users] ROMable SMSQ/E for Aurora?
There are much later versions of SMSQ/E for Aurora, but they all have various problems, mainly coping with DD disks!! I still stick with v2.91 Rich Mellor RWAP Software 7 Common Road, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JR TEL: 01977 614299 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware
Re: [ql-users] ROMable SMSQ/E for Aurora?
At 05:21 ìì 9/4/2002, you wrote: There are much later versions of SMSQ/E for Aurora, but they all have various problems, mainly coping with DD disks!! I still stick with v2.91 That's okay... the only DD disks in the house are either 1. Archimedes games 2. QLT cover disks :-) S which one is the latest? Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] OT: Clive Sinclair working for the French??
For on-topicness, has anyone ever used a QL in a mobile configuration, in, say, a car? Dave A nice British policeman objected when he saw me trying to use a QL while driving ;-) Seriously though, I've used a laptop with QPC2 via a voltage inverter in a car (thanks Darren). Worked OK while parked, but the cigarette lighter power plug fell out when driver went over a speed hump, fine time to realise the battery wasn't too well charged :-( -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Re: [ql-users] Suggestions...
However, I've been away for a very long time, and have forgotten most of my QL-related programming knowledge, having become fat and lazy with my bash shell and gcc compiler. Therefore, I'm asking you what tools you think I should take advantage of and what tools to avoid. I have to build a software library from scratch, which I am sure will make the traders happy ;) All of the C68 stuff should be OK (Dave Walker's website). There are a few good assemblers about, including the QMac (I think I've got the name wrong...anyone remember the correct name?) from Quanta. Most of the C tools have pointer utilities. C68, QMenu, QPTR and Easyptr all have these. Also, the way I am writing my mail client will practically require an 80 column width, and reasonably 25 rows. What suggestions do people have to do that, make it functional, and not be a screen hog? Try to allow it to use higher resolutions where available. See the file DISPLAY.ZIP (display_cde) in the software downloads part of my website for commented assembler source I used to write the hires display handler extensions). It might be worth you contacting Jonathan Hudson and Richard Zidlicky too, as they have both been involved in various ways with TCP/IP, email etc for QDOS. Richard is on this list, Jonathan's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Hudson did start work on porting a small TCP/IP system (free sources he got for an embedded controller device IIRC) but I don't know how far he got with it. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html