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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities
Heidrun quoted RDA:
are lacking, and there's no RDA provision, I suppose you can
for the time being at least, go back to AACR:
Just use: S.L. : s.n., n.d.
Until no mixed record or coding is allowed, or a 264 5 should come along.
Jack
Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
Brenndorfer, Thomas
tbrenndor
Just to add some other details on this topic and the relationship designator
“reproduction of (manifestation)” under the broader designator of “equivalent
manifestation” (a manifestation embodying the same expression of a work – which
covers manifestations in different font sizes of the same
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Qualifying access points
Thomas said:
I already make extensive use of that data in the new RDA-based MARC
for
the work.
Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library
From: J. McRee Elrod [m...@slc.bc.ca]
Sent: October-18-13 3:03 AM
To: Brenndorfer, Thomas
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Access points vs. cross references
Thomas posted
RDA does provide for that in 18.6 when a relationship to a resource requires
explanation (this is the closest in RDA to the justify the added entry
concept).
Of note is that most elements in 18.6 are manifestation elements. In this case
that example would likely be mapped to 2.20.3 - Note on
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Subject: Re: Access points vs. cross references
Thomas posted:
Implementing these access points in a card catalog produces
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Access points vs. cross references
Thomas said:
All cross-references are access points
That's a silly
Considering this authority record for the name-title SEE reference (based on
AACR2 22.2B3) ...
100 1# $a Cunningham, E. V., $d 1914-2003. $t Sylvia
400 1# $a Fast, Howard, $d 1914-2003. $t Sylvia
I wonder if catalogers are tempted to fix this in bibliographic records.
The 400
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(KC) I am
...@slc.bc.ca]
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Thomas quoted an RDA example:
Authorized access point: Cunningham, E. V., 1914-2003. Sylvia
Variant access point: Fast, Howard, 1914-2003. Sylvia
I ain't gwine do dat
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adger Williams
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Uniqueness of titles proper
Thomas said
snip
No, there is no equation of
No, there is no equation of 'preferred title for the work' and the authorized
access point for the work.
The preferred title for the work is one element only. Mapping it in MARC would
mean mapping it to 240 $a,$n,$p,$k -- but not to the rest of the 240 subfields.
RDA 5.3 says to record
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RDA 5.3 says to record additional elements to differentiate identical
?titles
There are two types of relationships being discussed here, in moving 240 to a
700 name-title access point.
Primary relationships (RDA 17), such as Work Manifested, are for relationships
like work-to-manifestation relationships.
Related works (RDA 25) include whole-part relationships, such as
There is a handy diagram, Barbara Tillett's Family of Works that shows the
categories for works and expressions, and where the cataloging conventions have
put the boundary between new works and new expressions.
For a working link, there is page 2 of
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is that if the data for the reproducer isn't presented, then
you use the data of the original.
Just saying.
Adolfo
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September
That's similar to our situation.
Once we went with a system that used fixed field generated icons, the GMD was a
burden. The icon also produces an equivalent term that is appended to titles in
the Title Browse index, which means the last place the GMD had any value was
gone.
In the regular
Also getting into new territory for me, would the RDA Manuscript-related
elements (RDA 3.9.2) apply for a single cataloged print-out of a published
electronic resource?
Production Method for Manuscript: printout
Scratch that idea. Better to apply the basic RDA concept of choosing the right
Would the scope of privately printed resources under Publication Statement in
LC-PCC PS 2.8.1.1 not also cover local printouts of a published online resource?
If an organization or individual prints out copies for local use, and these are
cataloged, then it seems who issued or released the
I would tie two RDA instructions together:
RDA 1.1.2 The term 'resource' is used in chapters 2-4 to refer to a
manifestation or item.
RDA 2.8.1.1 A publication statement is a statement identifying the place or
places of publication, publisher or publishers, and date or dates of
publication of
be entered once in the
775 or 776.
Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts
Thomas
Comparing Extent of Text in RDA to AACR2:
RDA: Extent of Text is for resources consisting of printed or manuscript text
(with or without accompanying illustrations).
Further in RDA 3.4.5.1: These instructions apply to text resources in volumes,
sheets, portfolios or cases.
AACR2: for
--
From that, I suppose I could add another possibility:
300 |a 1 comic book (ix, 45 pages) : |b color ; |c 24 cm
This I think is a good fit.
One could say that neither Extent of Text nor Extent of Still Image apply for a
comic book or graphic novel
: September-13-13 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Alternate forms of name as access points
Thomas posted:
Preferred name basis for authorized access point
Variant name basis for variant access point
Variant name basis for variant access point
Could
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From: Brenndorfer, Thomas tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.ca
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 10:12:03 -0400
2. Establish some identifier
337 Media Type aligns most frequently with the GMD:
projected [for moving images] = motion picture
Obviously it is not possible to walk from 337 to GMD. This is the way
we do it in preparing AACR2 compatible records from RDA records:
If 338 is: Export as 245$h:
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] YouTube video, Resource Description Access (RDA)
Basics for Copy Catalogers
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
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...
An idea
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Galletta, Rosanne
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Subject: [RDA-L] Composite identities/pseudonyms in RDA?
This misses the point that RDA always has a date as a core element. The core
if... language points to the cascading use of other dates such as copyright
date, and then only if a date of publication cannot reasonably be determined.
The core if ... instructions provide the sequence of
Judge and similar relationship designators are already handled quite well in
RDA.
There are two relationship elements to a work:
1. Creator
2. Other Person, Family or Corporate Body Associated with a Work
Under the second relationship element would fall such designators for roles
that led
Large print is mapped to 340 $n, although it hasn't appeared there yet
(currently (large print) is free text found after the pagination in 300$a).
The RDA element name is Font Size, and this is a manifestation element.
It is extremely important that Large print not be used as a work element
For Content Type, video games are listed under two-dimensional moving image.
Content Type refers to the primary human perception involved.
For the authorized access point of the work, video games are treated like
motion pictures, and are grouped under collaborative moving image works (RDA
] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games
For Content Type, video games are listed under two-dimensional moving image.
Content Type refers to the primary human
The two RDA examples for video games on this page are informative:
http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/RDA%20training%20materials/SCT%20RDA%20Records%20TG/
While LDR/06=m is used, treating the video games as a computer file record
type, that is not reflected exactly in the 336 Content Types. Both
.
Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library
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Sent: August-28-13 5:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games
Thomas said:
For LDR/06=m
that not only text could be carried by
a volume. I feel that is why it causes a trouble :-)
Thanks,
Joan Wang
Illinois Heartland Library System
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Brenndorfer, Thomas
tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.camailto:tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.ca
wrote:
Use subelements under
On the topic of improving the idea of Extent, this discussion paper is on the
right track:
http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-ALA-Discussion-1.pdf
The main problem has its source in cramming too many overlapping ideas into the
300$a field. There are different things being counted.
Extent of
and in using DCRM(B)?
Thank you,
Larry
--
Laurence S. Creider
Head, Archives and Special Collections Dept.
University Library
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003
Work: 575-646-4756
Fax: 575-646-7477
lcrei...@lib.nmsu.edu
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print?
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer,
Thomas
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition
Whether or not it has an edition statement, you could (would be
advised to) add Font Size (3.13) large print, in either the 300$a
or 340$n or both
True. But in the absence of a GMD, or a large print icon, a 250 large
print edition statement (transcribed or supplied) would give helpful
to
FRBR user tasks are another way to specify which elements to use.
The edition statement is used to identify the resource in two main ways:
1. help identifying the manifestation by recording what's on the manifestation
(this should be done if Large print edition is on the resource).
2.
The main problem with 006/007 add-ons is where they are optional for
accompanying material they can really mess up the use of fixed fields to
generate icons for type of material.
I've frequently amputated these 006/007 fields when they conflict with an icon
that represents the primary content
I have memories of a job in an interlibrary loan department where I
occasionally had to work with whatever scrap of data I could lay my hands on to
find the books people had requested.
On one occasion, I had limited information to use to search for nearly
identical books, which were otherwise
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ford Davey
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...
That disturbs me, a lot! I would like to know how those of you
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Barbara said:
That is not
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Both RDA and Bibframe follow modern data modeling techniques, such as
the entity
For example, labeling 100 as Author does not apply to a criminal
defendant in 100. Labeling 100 Person adds no useful information.
I've seem nothing better than an unlabeled ISBD display.
All of those are corrected in RDA, where it is recognized that all the names in
a 100 field are not
Check RDA D.1.2.2 Title and Statement of Responsibility Area for ISBD
punctuation
Use semicolons to separate titles proper if by same person.
Use full stop to separate each grouping of titles proper and statements of
responsibility if by different persons.
Using the example:
Saudades do
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Sent: July-27-13 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA media terms
In he RDA/ONIX framework for Content Type one checks off an attribute
for two-dimensional
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[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathie Coblentz [kcobl...@nypl.org]
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a volume
thomas Brenndorfer said:
Generated from MARC codes, objects in my system are flagged as
Three Dimensional Object (Artifact) ...
Please explain to me how an object could be one, two, or four
dimensional. Tooth dentist as my Granny would have said had I used
a phrase like that.
From
The RDA-MARC example bibliographic records in the Toolkit have examples with
multiple designators after names in the 100 and 700 fields. The designators can
fall into any category of relationship element.
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer,
Thomas
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person
://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
~~
On Mon, 13 May 2013, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote:
If an other person/family/corporate body associated with the work is used to
construct the authorized access point representing the work, then that *one*
person, family
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Shorten, Jay
Sent: May-13-13 5:05 PM
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Subject: [RDA-L] Title main entry equivalent in RDA?
I'd like someone to confirm my
It would be useful to enumerate how RDA treats all the different types of
statements of responsibility.
In a similar situation, RDA limits the use of the statement of responsibility
relating to series. RDA instructs to include it only if necessary for the
identification of the series. In many
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Heidrun
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Sent: May-09-13 2:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like
Board book or Scented book
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But as Deborah
You should allow the U.S. Metric Association to provide some assistance.
Here’s a quick guide
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/common.html
and a set of exercises for those who have trouble with this matter
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/correct.htm
One no longer needs to wonder what to
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Rochard
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The RDA Content Type audio does cover MP3 players as the intermediary device
(RDA 3.2).
Which would result in:
Content type=audio
and
Carrier type=other
and which does correspond generally with current Playaway AACR2 record values:
GMD = [sound recording]
300$a = 1 sound media player
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz
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Thomas said: The basic problem is then thrown back to MARC
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[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Typos in Titles
On
Really? There is a part 2 to AACR2? I never got that far into the book! ;-)
In my opinion, laziness has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Catalogers were
always supposed to check to see if there were other editions of the work and
relate those editions using a uniform title when appropriate. If
In the rare cases when I've seen a [sic] in a display it's been a disservice
especially when it's close to the beginning of a title, as it throws off the
sort order, and in fact most users are none the wiser and so assume [sic] is
part of the title.
I have seen titles with unusual spelling
Re: Thomas' comment, and in fact most users are none the wiser and so assume
[sic] is part of the title. I'm curious where you get this fact. It may be a
function of different user bases
We serve users of all ages and all walks of life. Probably many who are not
good spellers to begin with.
In looking at the examples in RDA 19.3.1.3 for Other Person, Family or
Corporate Body Associated with a Work there are several instances where a
specific relationship designator is not in the initial phrasing for the example.
So when one sees Authorized access point representing the dedicatee
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Santos Muñoz,
Ricardo
Sent: February-28-13 6:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Multiple identities named on same
Of Brenndorfer, Thomas
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants
Multiple creators and aggregate works are covered in RDA 19.1.2:
“If the resource being described contains two or more works associated with
different
Multiple creators and aggregate works are covered in RDA 19.1.2:
If the resource being described contains two or more works associated with
different persons, families, or corporate bodies, record the persons, families,
and corporate bodies associated with each of the works in the aggregate
The scope note for two dimensional moving image includes sound.
From RDA 6.9.1.3 for two dimensional moving image:
Moving images may or may not be accompanied by sound ...
Details about sound are covered in the Sound Content element (RDA 7.18).
'Sound content' is the presence of sound in a
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Media type for streaming video
Jack Wu
When applying RDA 17.8 to compilations, and having only the first or
predominant work be a core element, I think that situation points back to RDA
6.27.1.5 when there is a compilation but no collective title (and therefore no
authorized access point for an aggregate work).
In the example at
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more
of representation better
than the second.
Heidrun
On 07.02.2013 19:50, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote:
Perhaps, but one should always refer back to the RDA objectives and principles,
and FRBR/FRAD user tasks.
At one point in RDA development, the statement of responsibility was not going
The confusion around the Rule of Three and RDA's core elements stems from
mixing up two different ideas.
RDA says the first statement of responsibility relating to the title proper is
a core element. Subsequent statements of responsibility are not core elements
(which approximates AACR2's
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Thomas
In some ways there is already a simplification in RDA-- the conflation of the
FRAD Person and Name Entities.
In FRAD, a Person entity has a relationship to a Name entity, and the Name
entity has its own attributes, such as Scope of Usage and Date of Usage. In
FRAD, Name also applies to titles
There is a hierarchy in the RDA relationship designators, underneath respective
relationship elements, which establishes the logical links, as shown in
Appendix I:
Example:
Relationship element: creator
Relationship designator: author
Relationship designator: screenwriter
While the
The distinction between “artist” and “illustrator” currently exists in the
choices for main entry heading. Catalogers have to know that an artist can be a
main entry heading, and an illustrator can only be an added entry. The
distinction comes down to knowing what is the work and what is the
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On Mon, November 26, 2012 9:19 am, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote:
The distinction between “artist†and “illustrator†currently
exists in the choices for main entry heading. Catalogers have to know
Good point, and what often gets short shrift is the importance of applying the
logic of the user tasks. If the data doesn't help to find, identify, select or
obtain a resource, then it's not bibliographically relevant.
Beyond that, there is scaling effect in RDA, where essential elements are
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At one level I don't see the work and instance discussion in the paper of
any greater significance than RDA's penchant for preferring a content vs
carrier distinction in the organization of the earlier chapters in RDA.
In several early chapters in RDA there is only a thin blue line separating
Carrier Type includes Media Type as a constituent attribute, which means
Carrier Type volume includes unmediated and would therefore exclude
stereographic for the intermediation attribute. One can't combine volume
and stereographic, and stereographic by itself would at least point to
Carrier
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Thomas Brennndorfer said:
Carrier Type
The RDA-ONIX Framework allows for a genre attribute to be part of Content Type.
http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2007/5chair10.pdf
This has already happened with cartographic and computer (as in computer
dataset and computer program Content types)-- see Recommendation #3 in the
document.
The
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