oh geez. I'm depressed with the response on this poll.
Vote yes to release them...6218
Vote no...5371
Undecided...99
wot the hell is wrong with 5371 people to even consider risking this childs
life further!?
thanx for the notice on the tv show trudy, watching it answered a lot of my
questions,
These online polls are meaningless, worse than other forms of polling, which
are bad enough. It is completely pointless being shocked by their results
and drawing conclusions about what people really think. Ruddock, or more
likely, one of the undead he employs in his office, can sit there and
Hi Suze,
It shocked me too - the number of people voting 'no' especially in light of the
readership of the SMH. I guess it shows how successful Ruddock's smear campaign
and villification of the refugees has been.
I think if an Australian from even 30 years ago could return from the grave, he
or
Even if we put direct vote manipulation aside, what does a No answer to that
particular question mean anyway? I can easily imagine answering Yes to that
form of words. What would it prove? What does the question even mean? The
idea of labelling a group of people as redneck or progressive on
Crispin,
I was born in a Nazi Camp in 1944, my parents were deportees from the
German occupied Channel Isles.
I migrated to Australia in 1963. I was then a stateless person. I
enlisted in the Australian Army in 1968, became an Australian in 1969 and
served for over 20 years, including a
Tim, you spend too much time in academe and not enough on aus.politics. :-)
Trudy
tim dunlop wrote:
Even if we put direct vote manipulation aside, what does a No answer to that
particular question mean anyway? I can easily imagine answering Yes to that
form of words. What would it prove?
Hi Tim,
I agree with you - up to a point. Yes, a lot of these polls are manipulated and
when you look at them regularly, it is possible to tell when and by whom. They
do show up their clientele however...e.g. the ninemsn and newspolls very seldom
show anything but a conservative to redneck
If you have a look at the results of other recent polls there you
might not feel so positive about the SMH readership Trudy. On things
like drug trials, worker entitlements, the electronic tagging of
detention centre inmates, Tony Abbott and many other measures they
look pretty reactionary to
As much as I enjoy some of the discussion on this list (not that there is
much these days) and the endless supply of interesting info, it is also a
place that exhibits some of the most amazing narrow-mindedness. Some of the
judgemental comments that are made about ordinary Australians would be
The Sydney Morning Herald
Letters: Whatever happened to compassion?
Date: 16/08/2001
What has happened to fairness and decency in this country? An escapee's family
from Villawood is deported as a retaliatory act of
revenge. The parents of a traumatised six-year-old boy are blamed by the
Hi Tim,
Could you give an example of what you consider to be a non-judgemental,
helpful to reconciliation, unhypocritical contribution to the list, and
perhaps an example of a contributer being villified for having an
incorrect attitudewithout writing anything that you are convinced is
Trudy, Tim and Laurie,
This isn't getting anyone anywhere and is showing signs of going
critical! You are all better than that, and getting diverted from
the main game!
How about a bit of focus on the big picture issues? Anyone have any
thoughts on how to regain the impetus for proper land
Rod,
I'm also a bit wary of a treaty but only because I think it may, in the long
run, not guarantee Indigenous rights because it can so easily be ignored.
All human rights, including Aboriginal land rights, would be a whole lot safer
in a Bill of Rights enshrined in the Constitution.
I know
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