Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Duncan
Brownstein aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu To: Rick Duncan nebraskalawp...@yahoo.com; Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monumentat Oklahoma Legislature

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Duncan
for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monumentat Oklahoma Legislature Wow! Allowing local groups with longstanding ties to the community preferential access

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Duncan
for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; Alan Brownstein aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monumentat Oklahoma Legislature     I’m not Alan, but I would think

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-12 Thread Douglas Laycock
want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature I think Doug is correct that preferential access probably triggers Allegheny and the endorsement test. But Justice O'Connor is long gone, and Allegheny is ripe for re-consideration. I suspect the endorsement test would

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-12 Thread Rick Duncan
dlayc...@virginia.edu To: 'Rick Duncan' nebraskalawp...@yahoo.com; 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:05 AM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandmentsmonument at Oklahoma Legislature

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-11 Thread Rick Duncan
I think Doug is correct that preferential access probably triggers Allegheny and the endorsement test. But Justice O'Connor is long gone, and Allegheny is ripe for re-consideration. I suspect the endorsement test would not survive re-consideration, given the current lineup on the Court.   

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Len
Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Sunnum handles this, no? Sent from Steve's iPhone On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:43 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote: Inevitable

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Len
...@gmail.com To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Sunnum handles this, no? Sent from

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Jamar
for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Sunnum handles this, no? Sent from Steve's iPhone On Dec 8, 2013

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Christopher Lund
/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=363402 _ From: Len campquest...@comcast.net To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:31:33 AM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Isn't

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Douglas Laycock
:31:33 AM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Isn't there a significant difference between placing a religious monument in a public park vs placing a religious monument in a State capitol building? _ From: Steven Jamar

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Marc Stern
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:36 PM To: Law Religion Law List Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature A county can surely do that - but the constitutional issue is clear

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Penalver, Eduardo
To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature The result and logic of Summum make sense to me, but I’ve been a little bothered by how far it’s gone

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Levinson, Sanford V
Prediction: They won't get it!! sandy From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sogol Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:22 PM To: Religionlaw Subject: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread hamilton02
Inevitable. Marci Marci A. Hamilton Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212) 790-0215 http://sol-reform.com -Original Message- From: Joel Sogol jlsa...@wwisp.com To: Religionlaw

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Steven Jamar
Sunnum handles this, no? Sent from Steve's iPhone On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:43 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote: Inevitable. Marci Marci A. Hamilton Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212)

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Douglas Laycock
Doesn't sound like anyone involved has read Summum -- not the Satanists, not the legislator, and not the ACLU. On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 20:22:14 -0600 Joel Sogol jlsa...@wwisp.com wrote: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Finkelman, Paul
This looks like one of the Fraternal Order of the Eagles Monument. As a one time Okie I am offended that the legislature could not at least design a new monument, rather than dig up an old one. But, what will the Satanists put on their monument?

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Marc Stern
issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; Joel Sogol jlsa...@wwisp.com Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at OklahomaLegislature Doesn't sound like anyone involved has read Summum -- not the Satanists, not the legislator, and not the ACLU