ncy advocated by older chaplains such as Iasiello, which hinges on self-restraint, is increasingly under challenge by younger ones, such as Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt, 37. Three years ago, Klingenschmitt left the Air Force, where he had been a missile officer for 11 years, and joined the Navy as
, let me know. I'd like to tap that government funding source, and get many more Bibles (smile)...
Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt
Michael Besso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a political science course on constitutional rights and liberties thatI teach, a student asked about the Armys practice
quot;...But the model of chaplaincy advocated by older chaplains such as Iasiello, which hinges on self-restraint, is increasingly under challenge by younger ones, such as Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt, 37.
Three years ago, Klingenschmitt left the Air Force, where he had been a missile officer fo
wrong place to be.
Why should chaplains have more latitude to offend than others? Indeed, should not chaplains be held to an even higher level of sensitivity to the religious diversity in the population being served?
Steve
On Oct 7, 2005, at 9:18 PM, Gordon James Klingenschmitt wrote:
When fo
A few points to answer questions that were raised...
1) ALL chaplains are evangelists, in the sense that they promote their own faith message from the pulpit (even if liberal, or non-Christian, they're still evangelizing and persuading and teaching to convince people their point of view is the
Sincerely, thanks for your questions, Mr. Finkelman.
1) You ask how this Protestant minister could administer last rites to a dying Catholic Sailor. The answer is simple...we're both Christian, and I'd administer Christian rites. Although I'm an Evangelical Episcopal priest, I was raised,
Good questions Alan, and thanks for narrowing the scope of this inquiry...let's probe the outer limits, as you suggest.
Rigdon v. Perry seems to be the defining case law, and I can live with the federal judge's statement, that short of speech which urges 1) Treason, 2) Violence, 3) Rebellion,
The military cannot regulate the content of worship services,even on base. There's no such thing as an "interdenominational" service, unless the chaplain agrees to conduct one. And ultimately, it's not the judge's perrogative, that belongs to Congress, who already legislated US Code Title 10
Thanks Chip, you're right, I wasn'tthorough in my answers to Alan, soI'll try again here
Alan asked:
* If a Chaplain's comments placed the physical security of militarypersonnel of other faiths atrisk, would such comments justify intervention? That, of course,is the extreme case and it is
To answer the last couple questions I read...
Of course, the statute protects Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist chaplains too, and applies equally to mosques, temples, etc, not just churches.
Conscientious objectors are administratively discharged from service, often based on a chaplain's interview
I'm speechless. No pun intended.
Chaplain Klingenschmitt
"Volokh, Eugene" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got a copy of the Complaint in this lawsuit (Weinstein v.U.S. Air Force), and here's the claim for relief:26. Plaintiff is entitled to the permanent injunctive relief thatthe USAF,
The text of my speech outside the White House yesterday is pasted below...see also today's front-page story in the Washington Times: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051221-121224-6972r.htmGod Bless, Chaplain K.-- CHAPLAIN KLINGENSCHMITT
Chaplain Klingenschmitt faces possible court-martial because he read the "prayer for the Armed Forces" from the Book of Common Prayer, in uniform, at a press conference outside the White House on 30 Mar 06 with Chief Justice Roy Moore.http://persuade.tv/frenzy3/Reprisal26Pyle.pdfCan the
"Agitator" Chaplain Klingenschmitt's comments on the "new" House legislation...1) THE FIRST AMENDMENT ALREADY ALLOWSCHAPLAINS FREEDOM "TO PRAY ACCORDING TO THE DICTATES OF THEIR CONSCIENCE." (Is any phrase more distinctlyAmerican than this? Even Congressman Israel voted for this, he just
I'm grateful for Professor Friedman's blogging, and for Marty Lederman's thoughtful views on "speaking as a government employee." But just to remind everybody, US Code and Case Law both clearly define speechby military chaplains as NOT government speech, rather RELIGIOUS speech representing
personality, woe to us all, for the devil's tyranny will become a heavy yoke upon our necks, and true Christian Liberty will be lost forever.Gordon James Klingenschmitt www.persuade.tv Sanford Levinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:28:48 -0500From: "Sanford Levinso
to pray "in Jesus name" again. 2) Congress orders Secretary of the Navy to rescind "non-sectarian" prayer policy. 3) Congress orders Secretary of the Air Force to rescind "guidelines concerning the exercise of religion."After months of fighting the Navys "n
Perhaps Marty's right about one thing...our modern "enlightened" reading of the Constitution has (sadly) evolved quite a distance from when the founding fathers wrote that beloved document. Here is theorigin ofthatportion of10 USC 6031 (which Marty quoted, but hated) as firstwritten by our
Excellent comment Professor Scarberry, But now that the policy is rescinded, so is any distinction between "public worship at divine services" and "public worship at command ceremonies" and so the law (once again) protects the chaplain at all events whenever he prays...prayer itself is
Of course, selfishness is an abhorrent sinmuch to be despisedplease forgive me if anyone supposes my "zeal" is based in selfishnessI shall certainly self-examine and repent if sobut I only ask,was it selfish or unselfish,when I :1) Gave up an award-winningAir Force career and
Having lost this debate onits intellectual merits, Mr. Finkelman resorts to personal attacks on my character.Yet I agree with him on one point,that pride is a terrible sin, so I shall here endeavor to humblypracticeProverbs 27:2: "Let another praise you,and not your own mouth; someone else,
By Gordon James Klingenschmitt
OK, I admit, Jesus Christ is not running for president this year. He
promised to return soon enough, to assume public office, but meanwhile, where
do the 2008 presidential candidates stand on a military chaplain's right to
pray publicly in Jesus' name? I'm
issue.
Allow me to feel equally deeply about your imposing a Christian prayer
on non-Christians. You don't see a violation of the separation of church
and state here?
Susan
Gordon James Klingenschmitt wrote:
Since Eugene gave us the green light to talk politics
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Judges Overturn Ban on School Board Prayer By Doug Huntington
Christian Post Reporter
Fri, Jul. 27 2007 12:41 PM ET
A Louisiana school district that has been riddled with religious lawsuits
got
also online at:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58464
In Jesus name,
Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt
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to give Christianity the same honor,
speaks volumes about the left's religiously intolerance toward Christianity,
especially in light of the right's religious tolerance of all faiths equally.
--Gordon James Klingenschmitt
(Merry Christmas, in Jesus' name...)
Read the AP version here
HSLDA has a nation-wide petition to depublish the recent California
homeschooling decision, here:
https://www2.hslda.org/Registrations/DepublishingCaliforniaCourtDecision/
Also,
CA home school mom says 'we will have to move'
Jeff Johnson - OneNewsNow - 3/10/2008 9:15:00 AM
In Answer to CA Ruling against Homeschool, Assemblyman Joel Anderson Introduces
New Resolution in Legislature
Karen England (March 12, 2008)
As we move forward with our defense of homeschooling, it is imperative that
we make our voices heard.
Shockwaves continue to reverberate
The California Court of Appeal has vacated their own bad decision and will
rehear the homeschooling case. ADF and PJI press releases below.
In Jesus name,
Chaplain Klingenschmitt
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ALLIANCE DEFENSE FUND NEWS RELEASE
March 26, 2008
and children, by taking Bibles and prayer
OUT of public schools, that...
the result has already been very ugly and very expensive.
In Jesus name,
Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt
Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that much more guidance is
needed (along the lines suggested
information, etc.
By the way, I don't think the divorce rate has doubled. I think it's
dropping, in fact. Anybody got a current statistic?
Ed Darrell
Working in Dallas to get the curriculum planned out for 2008-2009, no thanks
to the State School Board
Gordon James Klingenschmitt [EMAIL
God out of schools to a different (perhaps less
educated) audience.
Ed Brayton
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Klingenschmitt
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:53 PM
To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: RE: Bible class rules
Turner was excluded from participating solely because
of the Christian content of his prayer.
A full text copy of the decision, with added commentary by Chaplain
Klingenschmitt is here: www.PrayInJesusName.org/Frenzy13/AgainstOconnor.pdf
Gordon James Klingenschmitt, the former Navy chaplain
, 2008, at Thu, Jul 24, 2:51 PM, Gordon James
Klingenschmitt wrote:
Professors Lund and Essenberg seek the larger question, which I
believe seems to involve whether a government can pray, at all. We
all agree individuals can pray, and the First Amendment protects
individual speech by private
Professor Lund wrote: Perhaps candidates in local elections would start to
run on prayer-related questions. (It's already happening!)
Professor Volokh wrote: A few people care fairly deeply; most don't. What's
more, the battles happen in relatively few places.
Actually, so many people
If Professor Lund said, someone in the government (whether the courts or
otherwise) will have to decide what gets said and who gets to say it, then if
logically the more powerful half of government gets to dictate and limit the
content of religious speech by the lesser half of the government.
Great win for ACLJ and equal protection!
The size of the jury award also sends a message that there's a hefty price to
pay for those who discriminate against religious organizations. -- Jay Sekulow
This jury understood that it is simply unacceptable for a city to violate the
Equal Protection
Enjoy (or forgive) my personal celebration for the 11th Circuit Court ruling in
Pelphrey v. Cobb County, restoring sanity to the legislative prayer process.
Can't we all just take turns?
I Pray In Jesus Name,
Chaplain Klingenschmitt
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This is a WorldNetDaily
Here's a related victory for evangelicals and good news clubs in public
schools, by Liberty Counsel and Mat Staver
In Jesus name,
Chaplain Klingenschmitt
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LibertyCounsel
December 3, 2008
After-School Christian Club Wins Battle
Christian couple in the UK facing criminal charges of religiously aggravated
public order offence, because they criticized Islam in their own hotel.
http://www.christian.org.uk/news/christians-face-trial-for-criticising-islam/
also here:
Curious what our expert legal list members might say.this case is the first
attempt at enforcing a new residential peace law that prohibits raising your
voice on a public sidewalk outside the home of an abortion doctorthe doctor
had never met the protester until today in court, so the
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