[Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
It would be nice if *someone or many* on the list would be nice to respond to this. There were other discussions in the past about the RLB, but know one ever responded. I'm hoping that others looking on can gain an education. Thanks, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Don

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread Doug Bade
Typically 2-4 weeks My experience as a buyer and seller using Paypal over their existence, before and after Ebay purchased them, is typically less than 24 hours to clear. In maybe 2-3 cases in over 500 transactions, it was held for 1 week or so and those were echecks.. Maybe they just

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread Larry Horlick
Don, I cannot speak to the Amtronix, but I use an Eagle RLB150 and can say without reservation that it is an excellent product. I use almost daily for tuning various types of cavities. In fact if you buy an Aeroflex (formerly IFR) radio test set, and order the RLB option what you get is an Eagle.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 1:45 AM, Don Kerouac wrote: I have been burned by PayPal several times. The real reason they put the hold on your checks or hold money owed to you has nothing to do with your ratings and little to do with security. Basically, they control billions of dollars in transactions ever

[Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread travis8303
First thing I would say is that if Rick is selling it, assume it works. I run an Eagle unit and would be glad to do comparison testing if someone would like. I have run a number of tests with the Eagle on various pieces of equipment and could repeat some of the same tests with the Amtronix

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
A slight word of caution: there were 3 versions of the Challengers: one that used a DOS PC to program, one that used a Commodore 64 to program, and one that used...I think either a TRS-80 or a Timex-Sinclair to program. If you have one of the last 2, there were special modules for interfacing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Some time ago, someone posted about making their own return loss bridge using an HP directional coupler. I thought that I'd saved the information, but cannot find it. The cost was reported to be less than $50 using a surplus coupler. Chuck WB2EDV - On Wed, Mar 17,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
How about this. I'll ask Rick if he'll send me a demo unit, and I'll compare it to my Eagle, using my VNA as the reference (Agilent E5070B). --- Jeff First thing I would say is that if Rick is selling it, assume it works. I run an Eagle unit and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
That would be ideal. Then everyone would know how the Eagle stands up against a serious piece of test equipment, as well as how Rick's model does. I'm betting that Rick's will hold it's own against the Eagle (which I've always thought was overpriced.) Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio

2010-03-17 Thread Doug
At 07:27 AM 17/03/2010, you wrote: A slight word of caution: there were 3 versions of the Challengers: one that used a DOS PC to program, one that used a Commodore 64 to program, and one that used...I think either a TRS-80 or a Timex-Sinclair to program. If you have one of the last 2, there were

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread DCFluX
Didn't eBay ban this method as they werent getting their double dip through Paypal? I refuse to use paypal due to privacy concerns (they have been known to sell personal information in the past.) This is just more ammo against using them. Frankly, if someone won't take a USPS money order,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater /Crossband Help

2010-03-17 Thread Mark
Don, There is an article on the Repeater-Builder web site (not the Yahoogroup page) about how to disable the always on channel element in the Micor exciter. I think this is what you need to eliminate your problem. It is described in this article:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread Robert Pease
Can someone tell me where the PayPal complaint list is... I have a repeater builder question! J From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DCFluX Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:13 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Paint

2010-03-17 Thread Tim - WD6AWP
I picked up a used Telewave antenna ANT150F6-2. It has a minor case of the fiberglass fuzzies and most of the blue paint is gone as it has been in the elements for 15 years. Should I paint it, apply a cote of resin, or just leave it alone? -- Tim, WD6AWP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Paint

2010-03-17 Thread Scott Overstreet
If you decide to paint it, Rustolium makes a spray can paint specifically for use on plastic (says so on the front of the can) that really works well. It comes in lots of colors. Several years ago, I used some to hide some new fiber glass antennasthe paint is still on---no white showing

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Paint

2010-03-17 Thread Gary Schafer
Marine epoxy paint. 73 Gary K4FMX -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim - WD6AWP Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Paint

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's Why would you want to? Surplus Kenwood TKR-820 units are readily available for $300 and less. I have seen at least 30 sold in last 3 months on eBay. These purposes built units have the power supply, interface, BEEFY heat sinks for the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Gary Schafer
_ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread va2ir
I've been using Paypal since 1999 and have had absolutely no issues with them. Actually on a sale overseas, they credited me the payment, then 10 days later debited me because they could not access the foreign bank, then that was resolved and I was credited - twice! Paypal is part of the Wells

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola GM950 Mobile

2010-03-17 Thread Adam Feuer
Hello All, Would anyone happen to have a service manual to a Motorola GM950 mobile? Band split is not relevant as I'm specifically looking for the part number of that radio's antenna jac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Adam N2ACF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 12:45 PM, va...@securenet.net wrote: I've been using Paypal since 1999 and have had absolutely no issues with them. Actually on a sale overseas, they credited me the payment, then 10 days later debited me because they could not access the foreign bank, then that was resolved and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 12:06 PM, skipp025 wrote: 50 cent plug... When Narrow Banding is officially jammed down our throats... I stock and sell the factory Narrow Band Kits for the TKR-720 and the TKR-820 Repeaters... Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 12:11 PM, Gary Schafer wrote: 5/8 OD gives you 1.96 inches (5/8 x 3.14) of surface area. 1 inch copper strap gives 2 inches of surface area. 2 inch copper strap gives you 4 inches surface area. Copper strap should be less expensive than copper tubing.__,_._,__ Why would you use

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread va2ir
Well anyone who divulges their name and or password thru some phishing email deserves to get caught. HSBC Canada is a Canadian Chartered bank. Yes, it is China based, but in the US - who do you think is financing your government debt? The Arabs and the Chinese. Lets close this topic now.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread kb8stb
Hoping not to sound to dumb I have an MFJ 269 (i know its not a precision instrument...) but at the hobby level is there any reason for me to think about building this thing? What does it do (even the $498 one) that my 269 dose not? (ignoring the precision issue) I ask in hoping to learn

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband, and the FCC has already said that if that's the case, it won't fly. Based on my direct in-person conversations with FCC Agents, simply reducing the transmit deviation to narrow

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Return Loss Bridge

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
Regarding the recent return loss bridge posts and the RLB Kit being offered by Amtronix and other sources. These bridges are all variations on a Wheatstone bridge. In a classic Wheatstone bridge, you can ground two of the three ports. In the Agilent S-parameter test sets, they place the

[Repeater-Builder] Test

2010-03-17 Thread kc8gpd
seems to be a long delay between posting messages and them showing up.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
Rick said he'd send me one. He's in the midst of making some design improvements which he hopes will result in about 5 dB better directivity than the original design. He also said he's probably going to change to a type N connector for the DUT port (a good idea). He's about to ship the last of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Test

2010-03-17 Thread Paul Plack
They're being intercepted and screened by ebay before posting. - Original Message - From: kc8gpd To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Test seems to be a long delay between posting messages and them

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Gary Schafer
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:36 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire On

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Gary Schafer
Here is another place to get copper strap even cheaper: http://www.gacopper.com/ $1.05 per foot for 2 inch strap. (.012 thickness) $1.70 per foot for 2 inch strap. (.022 thickness) 73 Gary K4FMX -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Test

2010-03-17 Thread Chris Curtis
Did you send it via e-check? Sorry, my bad Kb0wlf -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc8gpd Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Test

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Type Acceptance Requirement

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
Re: Type Acceptance Requirement Just one last thing to drone on about... during an in-shop discussion after my last Group post... it was just pointed out to me how there is clear and well established historical precedent for using current Type Accepted Equipment reconfigured for future

[Repeater-Builder] Add removable antenna connector to older motorola DTR's

2010-03-17 Thread kc8gpd
i have an older set of dtr's with the non removable antenna. i would like to add an sma jack to them so they are compatible with motorola 1/4 wave or 1/2 wave ht antenna's. i hate stubby antenna's. ht antenna's are compromised to begin with and stubby antenna's only make things worse.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 2:30 PM, va...@securenet.net wrote: Well anyone who divulges their name and or password thru some phishing email deserves to get caught. No-I was talking about paypal/ebay having that info and selling it. Not p/w's, but names, contact info, and at one point credit card numbers,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 3:47 PM, Gary Schafer wrote: Here is another place to get copper strap even cheaper: http://www.gacopper.com/ $1.05 per foot for 2 inch strap. (.012 thickness) $1.70 per foot for 2 inch strap. (.022 thickness) 73 Gary K4FMX Sorry-I don't have one of their stores in my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 2:45 PM, skipp025 wrote: wd8chlwd8...@... wrote: Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband, and the FCC has already said that if that's the case, it won't fly. Based on my direct in-person conversations with FCC Agents, simply reducing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Kirk Mefford
Not that I think copper pipe is a good alternative to strap, but Gary's math is slightly off. If you are saying 2 inch strap has 4 inches of surface area by counting both sides of the strap, then you need to count both sides of the pipe. Inside and outside surfaces of a pipe equal to 5/8OD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Their store comes up right in my computer room ;-) Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire On 3/17/2010

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Horse dead now. Back to repeaters? Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:58 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Gary Schafer
The math is right. RF will not flow on the inside of a tube. It acts as a “waveguide beyond cutoff”. 73 Gary K4FMX _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kirk Mefford Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:49 PM To:

[Repeater-Builder] R100 TX power Help

2010-03-17 Thread ct3fq
Hi Guys, I'm newbie in this list and I need help... I'm trying to reprogramming a MCR100 (MAL43XXX series ) to a 2m repeater: 1) I Have change all the frequency data with the r100 software with success; 2) I have tune the RX VCO (L201) to a maximum of 4.35 Volts DC (The motorola manual

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-17 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Gary Schafer wrote: The math is right. RF will not flow on the inside of a tube. It acts as a “waveguide beyond cutoff”. And gets even more exciting when the outside is carrying a high current fault but the inside is filled with moisture. Matthew Kaufman

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Type Accepted Legacy Land Mobile Radio Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
I would expect and take the opinion that proper emission operation within legal narrow band standards using legacy type accepted land mobile equipment will not be a legality problem and have had that opinion confirmed more than once by FCC Agents, in fact once again last week at IWCE.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater /Crossband Help

2010-03-17 Thread ka9qjg1
Thanks for the thoughts on My little Cross band/Repeater project , I think I will just quit trying to reinvent the Wheel and take My Old Midland 13-509 220 rig and a Motorola Maxtrac and make My own set up with a Pl on Both . That should solve my problem The Old Midland can be turned

[Repeater-Builder] FS: Return Loss Bridge AND HP8924C service monitor

2010-03-17 Thread Chris Curtis
Speaking of return loss bridges; I'm selling my service monitor. A 60 watt option 8924c with a really nice return loss bridge. Ebay item: 180482592507 There's a ton of other stuff but that's the best buy in the bunch. Thanks for the bandwidth. Kb0wlf