On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Wayne wrote:
Did some searching, and it looks like splices would run maybe twice
or
more the cost of one male and one female.
Yup. This probably falls into the category of you get what you pay
for when compared to regular connectors.
As it is, I have 4
Must be that because splices were/are very seldom used, the prices are
astronomical.
I will wait, for now, till I see what the future will bring me.
By splicing only where the cable can be well supported on both sides of
the splice, I would anticipate no problems using what I have.
And
: Ron Wrightmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wayne,
One issue on the connectors for reconnecting coax.
Many make back
applications needing a spice.
Would have lower loss and cost less than two connectors. More reliable also.
73, ron, nn9ee/r
From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Thanks, I had no way
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Wayne,
One issue on the connectors for reconnecting coax.
Many make back to back type connectors for this. They are essentially the
back end of 2 connectors joined as one piece/connector. Mostly used where a
long feedline cannot be placed on one spool
splice.
Andrew part numbers are L45R
Ralph
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From: Ron Wrightmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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less than two connectors. More reliable
also.
73, ron, nn9ee/r
From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors
Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the RG214
jumper.
Connectors are evidently not Amphenol, unless they didn't mark them as
such. The cable says RG214/U. Connectors marked 74868 UG-1185/U Seems to
be good quality.
No leakage that I can tell, and zero
Nice install. The guys need some work, but the RF gear looked good.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/22 Tue PM 07:58:31 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Alexandre Souza wrote:
p.s: I've
At 4/23/2008 23:30, you wrote:
Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the RG214
jumper.
You can scrape a tiny piece of the outer jacket off at the connector take
a peek. If the jumper is going to be outside, that area will need to be
weatherproofed anyway.
I have that on my site:
http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
Send me the photos and I'll put there :o)
I just got back from a visit to the 'Gambiarras where I fell out of
my chair laffing so hard... LOL is putting it TOO mildly
Take a look around, there
Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors are good
parts.
The 4 Heliax connectors I bought with the cable are Andrew connectors.
I'm wondering when the Andrew web site will be back up. Is it based in
taiwan? I know they had problems there due to a major quake that
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM
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Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to
think
he could get away
For the record, the Andrews web site seems to still be down. Means all
info I fiond is from other web sites, vendors, etc...
Also, it seems that Andrews has discontinued a couple of types of Heliax,
including what I have. One person came up with them only making it with
aluminum outer
have you use high quality connectors.
The worst Connectors are 90 degree connectors. they use a Cheap spring inside.
that heats up and opens like a Fuse over time.
Neal-ka2caf
--- On Tue, 4/22/08, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Okay, at this point, I have the following:
100 feet of LD5-50A
1 Female 'N' connector for same
3 male 'N' connectors for same, plus an additional male 'N' from another
source. All for the LDF5050A cable
At antenna, a 3 or 4 foot 1/2 Heliax jumper, as the connectors for the
7/8 Heliax
, ron, n9ee/r
From: Larry Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 06:08:47 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut
At 06:22 AM 4/22/2008, you wrote:
Larry,
I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240 V...a good
old TV transformer with about 800V would do. Also if you stand
inside the building looking for smoke it would lead to the user of
the feedline. Bet they would not do it again.
This was
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Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:22 AM
Larry,
I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240
V...a good old TV transformer with about 800V would do.
Also if you stand inside
/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
On a quick Note Ron
If the repeater was for emergency services( Police,fire,ems or during a
storm) ,and was a Must Get on the air at any cost that would save lives
At 4/23/2008 00:45, you wrote:
Okay, at this point, I have the following:
100 feet of LD5-50A
1 Female 'N' connector for same
3 male 'N' connectors for same, plus an additional male 'N' from another
source. All for the LDF5050A cable
At antenna, a 3 or 4 foot 1/2 Heliax jumper, as
p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
I have that on my site:
http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
Send me the photos and I'll put there :o)
to get something important on the air.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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On a quick Note Ron
If the repeater
Neal,
Sure send me the control and I'll take a look.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 10:53:07 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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YEP...
BTW RON I have an Older 1000
Use of the antenna could be considered theft of services IMO.
Theft of services covers a number of things.
Not sure what the 240 volts would do, maybe burn out loops in the
duplexers being used, if it managed that before kicking the circuit
breaker. Possible melt some of that teeny coax
At 03:35 AM 04/22/08, you wrote:
p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
I have that on my site:
http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
Send me the photos and I'll
Wayne wrote:
I also have a bulkhead mount Polyphaser which I could, for the time
being, install at the repeater itself and use a jumper there that is
Others may disagree, but the Polyphaser is only perfect if tied to a
properly planned single-point or halo/ring grounding system.
It'll
Alexandre Souza wrote:
p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
I have that on my site:
http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
Send me the photos and I'll put there
I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a
repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and
jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me
this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a
At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial?
What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges.
What was done was criminal damage to property - and if that is a significant
length of hardline - it could be FELONY criminal
I was really glad I had a new camera from eBay with me for testing.
It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that
and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future.
Cameras are so cheap nowadays you can always have a disposable
2mpixels camera on your
, ron, n9ee/r
From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a
repeater that has been out
Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to
wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax.
Second, looks
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Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
he could get away
Wayne wrote:
Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to
wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the
Jeff,
I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 04:54:19 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
The site manager had doped out which
At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it.
Or at the very least is responsible - given that that person's
equipment is connected.
One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point ...
And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is the criminal
call this AMATEUR radio, sometimes we've got to accept the next best
thing.
YMMV,
Mike
WM4B
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Hopefully whoever was connected to the RG-58 is no longer a tenant.
Ed Yoho
WA6RQD
That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot
who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I
not seen the Pic
Happy Repeater Building
Don KA9QJG
Over the years I thought I had seen it all. That one takes the prize.
Harry, W0OZL
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Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someone
has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of
RG-58 to it.
While investigating a problem with a Low-Band (46 MHz) repeater, we
determined that the antenna harness on a DB 212-4 was bad. It turned out
that two UHF female T connectors were bad. The center pin of the T was,
instead of screwing into the center of the through pin, making contact with
the aid
Not only did he follow it, he wired it to 120VAC after he repaired his
Heliax...
Seriously -- I hope he followed it, if only to find out who the moron was
that did that! (And then reported it to the tower/site manager.)
Mark - N9WYS
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