[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building HT antennas

2009-07-12 Thread Albert
Let me first say thanks to everyone for all of their input and information. I am familiar with the NAB6064A/B heliflex antenna but do not actually have one of those. I do actually own one of the Centurion/Antennex model EXL antennas that Milt mentioned. The only down side is I do not have the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: K9TRG Art Housholder Silent Key

2009-07-12 Thread Albert
I am new to the amateur radio community but have been drawn to some of the older Motorola gear since I started. I did not know this man but I am marginally familiar with the portable clinic website because of my interest in Motorola portables. (You can't tell by my last few posts can't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Bi-Level Squelch Circuit

2009-07-12 Thread Adam Feuer
I am a very big fan of the Micor bi-level squelch. It's action is second to none on my 440 and 900 system however, I too am having the exact same problem on my 29.540 receiver in carrier squelch. I just will not take anyone into the noise but rather near quieting signals just pop out and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maratrac as a repeater transmitter -connections

2009-07-12 Thread Brian Poellnitz
Hi Wade, You're correct. Ground the PTT pin to TX. Mic audio would go to the TX audio output on the controller, or else this is gonna be a rally quiet repeater. ;) Brian N4BWP kc0mlt wrote: Am I correct in thinking to ground the PTT connection to get it to key up? Just looking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Joe
I agree with Eric. Unfortunately, new repeater owners sometimes can't resist tweaking the last transmit can for maximum power output. If it is a BP/BR can, there goes your receiver isolation. 73, Joe, K1ike Eric Lemmon wrote: Norm, If the Q202-G duplexer is tuned exactly to spec, you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3/4 wave cavity operation at 1296 MHz

2009-07-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
In your experimentation, were you using 4 diam 450 MHz cans operated at 3/4 wave for 1296 or 4 cans at 1/4 wave (stubbies !) for 1296 ? I used both. I used UHF 4 pass cavities as 3/4 wave resonators, and also took 900 MHz 1/4 wave cavities and cut down the center to shorten them. In both

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Bi-Level Squelch Circuit

2009-07-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
Alex, if memory serves, the component differences for the lowband audio/squelch board are documented in the manual. I don't remember if the station and mobile boards both have different components for lowband, or if it was just the station. I also don't remember if the SpectraTAC audio board

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building HT antennas

2009-07-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
Also, this project is designed to use in a mostly stationary situation, and I was thinking of incorporating a spring or something similar at the base of the antenna to minimize the shock to the antenna connector. Using your idea, how about a small spring at the base, followed by a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
With a preamp, if you're only getting -106 dBm sensitivity, something is wrong. If memory serves, the spec for 12 dB SINAD without the preamp for a highband Mastr II is 0.35 uV (-116 dBm), and with the UHS preamp the sensitivity was 6 dB better (-122 dBm). Looking at the GE isolation curves,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3/4 wave cavity operation at 1296 MHz

2009-07-12 Thread Joe
I wonder what the diameter of the center element, or plunger, was? Joe Jeff DePolo wrote: I used both. I used UHF 4 pass cavities as 3/4 wave resonators, and also took 900 MHz 1/4 wave cavities and cut down the center to shorten them. In both cases they were TX-RX 4 cavities. Also, the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
No, not worried about max power through the cans. I have a db-224 at 270' with about 330' of LDF7-50a feeding it. I figure about 1db feedline loss so most of what comes out of thr cans gets to the antenna anyway. More worried about the repeater being able to repeat eveything it CAN possibly

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jeff, I agree completely with your conclusions. When tuned on my vector network analyzer, I have often been able to achieve 90 dB of isolation on both sides of a Sinclair Q202G duplexer at 2m. The key to getting this kind of performance is not just tuning each can individually for optimum

Re: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
Wow, lots of great info there. I do have the PLL exciter. It is working better after I adjusted the cans yesterday, but I am wondering if I need to spend the time to tweak it more. Thanks for your input... EVEREYBODY! De N5NPO Norm - Original Message - From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
Ok Eric, You just brought up something... My cans are SANS cabinet. Two of the cans at least, have serial numbers and model numbers on them. I am seriously now thinking that this is a frankenstien monster duplexer made from cans from more than 2 set. The tuning rods on the one pair have

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
Norm, The tuning rods on the TX pair of cavities will be at different heights than those on the RX pair, simply because they are tuned to different frequencies. As for the RG-142 jumpers, that's okay because RG-142 is double-shielded. Changing those jumpers to RG-214/U will probably gain you

[Repeater-Builder] Re: About those Trident LTR Controllers

2009-07-12 Thread TRACOMM
We use quite a few Trident controllers (Raiders), they will do LTR conventional. Came across a number of the SEA Trident units several years ago, Trident advised chip sets were all custom, and units would only work with SEA or EFJ ACSB units. They were correct, seriously tried, no luck. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
Ok, It is not the rod lenght sticking up, it is the set screws and adjustment nuts (bolts?) That are different. One side has 2 on each can and the other side has 3 on each can. The RG-142 jumpers are pretty short. I really doubt that they are 12 inches from tip of N male to tip of N male. The T

[Repeater-Builder] complete kenwood vhf base setup

2009-07-12 Thread kc8gpd
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
Norm, Thanks for that clarification. Your duplexer is the later model, just like mine. My harness drawing applies only to the later model. Regarding the jumper length, it is NOT tip-to-tip of the cable; it is the horizontal distance between the centers of each tee, with the jumper cable in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Lightning Protection

2009-07-12 Thread Rich
Mr. Kelsey, I was unable to open or read your attachment. I too am intreested in the subject of proper grounding and lightning protection. Would you please repost that link or the document in some other manner? Thank you and I appreciate many of the contributions you have made to this hobby

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Lightning Protection

2009-07-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Responded with direct email. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rich aquame...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Lightning Protection Mr. Kelsey, I was unable to open or read your attachment. I

[Repeater-Builder] Hamtronics Early Receiver Info Wanted (please)

2009-07-12 Thread skipp025
re: Hamtronics Early Receiver Info Wanted (please) OK, some of you guys stop laughing now... this is a sincere request. Any of you have docs (Manual or circuit diagram) for the following Hamtronics receivers... the manuals of which are not available on their (the Hamtronics) web page. I've

[Repeater-Builder] LDG RVS-8 voter and Pacific Research RI-300 controller (was: for sale: 420 MHz linking radios, voter)

2009-07-12 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Matthew Kaufman wrote: GE: 12+ Mastr Exec low-power full-duplex mobiles, 77 range (SX55FAS77A) with internal mobile duplexer Misc spare control heads, high-power Mastr Exec PAs, etc. All the GE gear is spoken for. LDG: 1 RVS-8 repeater voter This item is now listed on eBay at:

[Repeater-Builder] Hamtronics and Icom 420 MHz gear (was: for sale: 420 MHz linking radios, voter)

2009-07-12 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Matthew Kaufman wrote: 6 R304-2 UHF synthesized receiver, wired and tested, mounted in A89 enclosure Now at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250463620430 3 T304-2 UHF synthesized exciter, wired and tested, mounted in A88 enclosure Now at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building HT antennas

2009-07-12 Thread Milt
The tuning of the Centurion antenna is very simple, tune the trimmer cap for maximum transmitted signal. Use anything that gives an indication; service monitor, field strength meter, whatever. You will only cover at most 1 MHz with ANY antenna on low band other than a couple of specially