Since no one has written about this show yet. This show isn't as funny as
the Family guy but it is the first adult animated show with a mostly black
cast. It has a feeling of being a bit forced, but some of the jokes are
edgy.
Has anyone watched this show yet? What are your thoughts on it?
--
Sadly, his casting of lighter actors works because of the time the
film is set in. I remember New York in the 80s very well. We don't
like to discuss this, but we were a pretty color struck society then.
The popular actors and singers at the time were light. It's one of the
reasons Spike
Mr. Worf,
i like it. although the guy who voices cleveland is white, the show is fun 2
me. especially last night's ep about thanksgiving and his dad doing a man whom
he thought was a woman. it had a nice message bout family and spending time
together. although fox is not my best network,
I think that some areas were a little more skin sensitive than others but
I do remember some of the controversy back then. Especially when Prince, the
Debarges were big.
On a side topic, there was a post that I read a few months ago that asked
the question should black women wear lipstick. The
I thought last night's show was funny and edgy, but I was a little bothered
that the mom didn't object to the father's womanizing. It also reinforces
stereotypes about black men.
I am happy that I can watch black folks on tv. The Proud family was a pretty
good show and had very funny moments in
agree, but remember, mom and dad are not a couple anymore. they showed up
2gether, but that was just 4 the holiday. but i am really enjoying how the
boys are becoming friends with each other. last weeks ep with cleveland jr was
hilarious when he was talking one way and when the guy pushed
Lipstick is a subject that amuses me mightily since lipstick was first worn by
prostitutes to advertise both their expertise and their willingness to perform
oral sex. Add lipstick to the long line of hooker accouterments adopted by
women at large.
~rave?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com,
That, my friend, is a book. Illustrate these hooker inventions in
a setting that's in the not too distant future and it's a GREAT
book.
On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Kelwyn wrote:
Lipstick is a subject that amuses me mightily since lipstick was
first worn by prostitutes to advertise
After decades of girls' fantasy novels featuring empowered, adventurous
heroines, it's perplexing that the Twilight saga, featuring insipid Bella
Swann, has so thoroughly captivated a generation of teenagers.
by Alyssa Rosenberg
A Condemnation of Sparkly Vampires
10 RULES FOR THANKSGIVING DINNER AT MY HOUSE
1. Don't get in line asking questions about the food. Who made the
potato salad? Is it egg in there? Are the greens fresh? Is the meat
in the greens turkey or pork? Who made the macaroni and cheese?
What kind of pie is that? Who made it? Ask
Well, I at least give Daniels credit for acknowledging his own prejudices. We
all have them: the problem is those who don't confront and try to change them.
I try very consciously to ask myself why I feel certain ways and then analyze
the root of those feelings. I'm always struck by the odd
I have only seen one episode of The Cleveland Show and I found it both
quietly subversive and benignly derivative. For instance, Cleveland's stepson
Ralio has Stewie potential but the preternaturally
wise prepubescent is a black sitcom staple (Different Strokes's Arnold,
Webster's Emmanuel
But the point is, the book's author specifically crafted a teacher who wasn't
light skinned. i hear you about the times, but even in thh old days, there
were darker skinned people who made a difference and deserve to be showcased.
This really is about Daniels' prejudices, which will show
I saw this post yesterday but I let my impressions stew for a day because a) I
did not have this particular visceral response to the movie - not having read
the book, I thought all the casting was spot on perfect (b) the light/dark
dichotomy impacted me only vis-a-vis Precious' daydreams (c)
When I was growing up in Texas in the '60s and '70s, there was a lot of talk
about colors applied to black women, be it lipstick, eye shadow, rouge, or even
the color of clothing they wore . It was often felt that darker-skinned black
women had no business wearing really red lipstick, for
Rave,
I've noticed your knowledge of the more...carnal...side of life is rather
extensive, and infuses your angle on culture. Even some of your brilliantly
written reviews sometimes include a slant on the erotica in a flick, often
giving a pass to films I abhor (Catwoman) based on the
This is why you have to love the Internet and groups like this one! You start
out with a sobering conversation on black self-hatred, and ten clicks later,
it's changed to Hookers in Space! I'm reminded of the TV movie and series
Alien Nation, in which they showed the alien hookers standing on
Funny stuff! My wife and I don't have relatives here in Atlanta, so rather than
cook this year or going to some friends', we were thinking of going out. (The
fact that I have to watch my blood sugar now didn't help, as pies and cakes
were my favorite part!). My wife has long been a fan of
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:
Rave,
Do I need to envision you sitting on a pleather orange sofa wearing a smoking
jacket and ascot, sipping brandy while you fondly gaze at blacklight posters
of nubile, nude Sisters sporting afros and big hoop
Vernon Jordan and I have one thing in common: we were both being groomed to be
Penecostal ministers before we discovered sex...and LIKED it!
(Unlike most Penecostal ministers, who have the exact same revelation, be it
with girls or boys, Jordan and I had the good grace NOT to go into the
I disagree. We have to look all horses in the mouth, else, how do we grow? It's
still an issue if a movie puts forth some images that are positive, crushes
other negative ones, yet perpetuates other negative stereotypes. To me, that's
like saying that back in the 80s and 90s when black men
Oh, one more thing about The Cleveland Show - the theme song lyrics
originally included the following words:Happy black-guy face which was
replaced with happy mustached face to make the song more racially sensitive.
I happen to think Happy black-guy face is funnier and having to be racially
well Keith, since i have 2 put up with it with going 2 my brother-in-law's
house in marietta this year (Number One and I hosted last year), i will take
some pic's 4 u. as 4 the cakes and pies, u watch your sugar and if YOUR Number
One is not around, i slip u are one.
--- On Mon, 11/23/09,
i kind of like the wisdom of the bear...but that stays inline with peter having
brian in the house. i am still hopeful that the show picks up the same kind of
audience the family guy has though.
--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
Subject:
Yipes, I ain't touching that Pentecostal minister thing! I don't know from them
and their carnal desires. You can have both you know: a life in the pulpit, and
one of wordly enjoyment--within reason of course! :)
- Original Message -
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
To:
Have fun! I always go home to Texas for Christmas (my fav holiday) so I get the
family thing then. Hard now that both parents are gone, and my two older
brothers don't travel around and visit family like I do. So I usually spend all
day at my older brother's, and it's him, my wife, me, and my
Please don't misconstrue my muddled musing. I specifically waited a day to
respond to your original post because I did not want my post to be construed as
an attack on you, which it is not. I primarily wanted to convey my ongoing
ambivalence about this.
For instance, I created a character
You are right about Brian and his on-going lust for Lois. Now THAT is wrong on
so many levels! - which is the demented genius of Seth MacFarlane.
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@... wrote:
i kind of like the wisdom of the bear...but that stays
Another symptom of the Dumbing-Down of Humanity, IMO.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: sincere1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 23
Knowing that my 10 year old daughter is going to insist on me taking her to
go see this when I get back home this weekend, I'm trying to keep an open
mind. But I must admit: I find myself steering her as much as possible to
other heroines. As in, heroines who do something.
It's been a losing
That sounds sweet!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:07:27 +
I know! Glad it had been awhile since I'd eaten supper before watching, or I
would've been hugging porcelain!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To:
LMNAO! Who said that wearing the pants in the family was all that
and a bag of chips?
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To:
Tracey, I can't really see a downside to it. I've been shot full of crap my
entire life, and it hasn't done me an ounce of harm. I've been hearing from
people who are certain that getting the shot will be worse than passing on it,
and there are several hundred dead people who answer that
I know how you feel, Charles. My fifteen-year-old niece already has tickets for
the Wednesday showing. I didn't even think that she knew about the series until
I took her to Barnes and Noble to get a couple of books for school earlier this
eyar, and she went into a puddle at sight of the
October sales drop 19% in 7th monthly decline, stirring holiday anxiety.
http://apaisoog.notlong.com
Last night's episode was very interesting. Brian was trying to win over
Quagmire's friendship and Quagmire told him off. Not just a little bit but
ripped him a new one. It was such a hardcore rip that it wasn't funny but
serious. I think it took the show to a different level dramatically.
On Mon,
Possibly, but it could have also been worn before that. The history goes so
far back that there is more than one origin.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
Lipstick is a subject that amuses me mightily since lipstick was first worn
by prostitutes to advertise
That show is like the MILF island skit from 30 Rock. Sounds hilarious
- for two episodes. Then you're back to the original show for ideas/
audience.
Daryle Lockhart
On Nov 23, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:
Since no one has written about this show yet. This
A lot of that is self imposed racial thinking. We were keeping ourselves
down by then after years of social programming to hate ourselves. That is
the true danger of racism.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:
When I was growing up in Texas in the
I can relate to the job interfering with trips home. Two years ago the
structure at my old company changed, and I had to stay in Atlanta for
Christmas, rather than go back to Texas. It was rough, especially because my
mom had died recently and I wanted to be with the family. Of course, last
yeah, I really lament the directors nowadays who think all that quick cutting
is necessary. Bad enough they think it's required to amp action scenes, but
when they can't even shoot a conversation without this? Crazy. I saw another
SyFy horror movie where the director was using every trick in
Is she also asking to go see the Disney flick?
- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:13:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] A Condemnation of Sparkly
Sometimes directors purposely do things like that to experiment.
Unfortunately, we end up being their test bunnies.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:
yeah, I really lament the directors nowadays who think all that quick
cutting is necessary. Bad
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnewsid=609
To save our world and all those like it, Superman, Batman and their caped
colleagues must go toe-to-toe with their evil mirror images in Justice League:
Crisis on Two Earths, the seventh entry in the successful ongoing
Yep, you can remove the bars, but the prison cell remains
- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:52:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Skin Color Prejudice in
I'm all for experimentation, but this dizzying method of camera work isn't like
something you'd attribute to the likes of early Scorsese or something. It's an
example of the up and coming new breed of directors and cinematographers raised
on music videos, video games, and the Net, who don't
You have a point. There are some directors that do use too many tricks. For
example, shaky hand-held cameras to add tension to a scene. Oftentimes it is
overused and is distracting more than it helps. (District 9 used it well.
Cloverfield leans a lot more toward distracting.) With Crank 1 2 it
It reminds me of the story about how they train elephants. When they are
young they chain them with big oversize chains. When they become adult
elephants they can easily snap the chains, but they never do.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:
Yep, you
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