Re: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
The one issue with this I have is 1) Forward full original source to Sniffer with license code. If we could do it without the license code, it would be much easier to automate on our end. I already have a process in place to copy and reroute false positives by rewriting the Q file. I'm

[sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Numeric spam

2006-06-07 Thread Markus Gufler
Today I've noticed that there is a relation between the recipient adresses that was used in the past 36 hours in the numeric spam messages and the following wave of stock-spam messages containing this png-graphic. After checking around 10 Mailboxes there is a correspondence of 100%. Or they

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:31:29 AM, you wrote: The one issue with this I have is   1) Forward full original source to Sniffer with license code. If we could do it without the license code, it would be much easier to automate on our end.  I already have a

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
Hi Pete, Can I interpret this as email address and matching source IP are sufficient if the correct email address is used to submit? If not, do you have any suggestions on how you would like to see us inserting the license ID in the D file? Darin. - Original Message - From: Pete

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 8:44:26 AM, you wrote: Hi Pete, Can I interpret this as email address and matching source IP are sufficient if the correct email address is used to submit? Yes. If not, do you have any suggestions on how you would like to see us inserting the license

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Scott, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 10:08:58 AM, you wrote: For me the pain of false positives submissions is the research that happens when I get a no rule found return.   I then need to find the queue-id of the original message and then find the appropriate Sniffer log

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Matt
Pete, An X-Header would be very, very nice to have. I understand the issues related to waiting to see if something comes through, and because of that, I would maybe suggest moving on your own. Sniffer doesn't need to be run on every single message in a Declude system. Through weight based

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 3:37:36 PM, you wrote: Pete, An X-Header would be very, very nice to have.  I understand the issues related to waiting to see if something comes through, and because of that, I would maybe suggest moving on your own. I've got it on the list to

Re: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
Oh, I assumed the rule had been removed. Are you saying there was a rule in place, but the FP processing somehow failed to find it? If so, I'd say that is a major failing on the part of the FP processing. There's no way thatwe can find time to go through the Sniffer logs after this bounces

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 4:22:05 PM, you wrote: Pete, Since the %WEIGHT% variable is added by Declude, it might make sense to have a qualifier instead of making the values space delimited. I don't want to mix delimiters... everything so far is using spaces, so it makes

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:05:28 PM, you wrote: snip/ Uh, but the D file contains mime segments corresponding to attachments. That's ok. SNF looks inside those, and w/ the FP scanning software inside the rfc822 atachment also. It's not perfect, but the majority of the time it

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:09:27 PM, you wrote: snip/ That would be a bad idea, sorry. After 30 days (heck, after 2) spam is usually long-since filtered, or dead. As a result, looking at 30 day old spam would have a cost, but little benefit. You misinterpreted what I was saying.

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
(sniff) Aw, cut it out, Matt. You're making me all weepy. p.s. Pete, that's pretty darned amazing! From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:58 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: Re: [sniffer]Re[2]:

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
Awesome. Great job, Pete. Darin. - Original Message - From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions Hello Matt,

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
Unfortunately, by the time the message gets to us it is sometimes just different enough that the original pattern cannot be found. There are some folks who consistently have success, and some who occasionally have problems, and a few who always have a problem. Different in what way? Is the mail

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:26:48 PM, you wrote: Unfortunately, by the time the message gets to us it is sometimes just different enough that the original pattern cannot be found. There are some folks who consistently have success, and some who occasionally have problems, and a few

Re: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
Of course I'm sending the full message as an attachment. You can do that with Outlook byattaching and item, then browsing your mail folders for the message to attach. And yes, that's how you do it with Outlook Express as well. I don't use Thunderbird or Netscape mail, but I would assume you

[sniffer][Fwd: Re: [sniffer]FP suggestions]

2006-06-07 Thread Matt
Darin, Thunderbird and Netscape just takes the full original source and attaches it as a message/rfc822 attachment. I forwarded this message back to the list by just pressing Forward. I'm pretty sure that Outlook Express works simply by just pressing Forward As Attachment, or at least it