I have noticed that when I try “match all transforms” on an object to
something parented to it(a child), it tends to fail quite a bit. It looks
like the rotation gets evaluated first and set, before the position. So the
final position is not the original position where the child was, but where
it
hi Jack,
Do you have a quick repro steps in 2013?
I have noticed that when I try “match all transforms” on an object to something
parented to it(a child), it tends to fail quite a bit. It looks like the
rotation gets evaluated first and set, before the position. So the final
position is not
Like!
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On 19/12/2012, at 14:19, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard that ICE and Naid are going to Maya..This rumor is coming from
one of the latest events .I am not
Can you elaborate this? I'm afraid that it might make unnecessary panic.
When do you think this move is going to happen? How reliable your source
is in that question? (I mean he must be very close to Autodesk)
I personally trust in the developers (not in Autodesk), but if that is
true...
Would you care to elaborate, when you say this is coming from the latest
events? Because to the best of my knowledge we haven't announced anything
publicly and this isn't something that we would really mention at an event.
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
If you are so happy with your other software, why even bother coming here?
You like Softimage, don't you. Here we all do, for a reason, and will
continue so until the end - which always comes (yet not in 2 days).
The developers are doing a good job, even with their limited resources,
and they
If it was publicly it won't be rumor and everyone will know.As I said this
is something I 've heard recently and I really hope isn't true.I like
Softimage XSI and what is happening with it lately, and these rumors really
hurts long XSI users.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Graham Bell
LOL
Rob Wuijster
E r...@casema.nl
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On 19-12-2012 15:49, Nic Groot Bluemink wrote:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Tim
Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've heard
Haven't we been hearing this for like 4 years? If it happens it happens.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Sebastien Sterling
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote:
I always thought the reason ice works so well was its in-depth
integration, surely if they want to achieve such results in maya
The world will end in a couple of days, so who cares...
On 19 December 2012 15:19, Ciaran Moloney moloney.cia...@gmail.com wrote:
Haven't we been hearing this for like 4 years? If it happens it happens.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Sebastien Sterling
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
If this really happens they are not going to remove the ICE from Softimage
but Softimage will fade out slowly from Autodesk.ICE is the only reason
Softimage is still around.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Francois Lord flordli...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you surprised to hear that the best tool in
If you think Softimage will die when Maya gets an equivalent to ICE, you
should have begun switching to another software some time ago.
It was inevitable.
On 19/12/2012 11:52, Tim Marinov wrote:
If this really happens they are not going to remove the ICE from
Softimage but Softimage will fade
And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if
doesn't make enough money from it.
But who cares as someone said the world will end in a couple of days :)
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
If this really happens they are not
It would be a shame if Softimage disappears. It's not just ICE what makes
XSI an amazing product, but its whole workflow.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if
doesn't make enough
my tuppence worth
I don't think maya will ever get ice as we, softimage users, know it.
They'll get some nasty half arsed cludge that lacks the simplicity of
softimage that will make using it a pain rather than the pleasure we
enjoy.
There will always be a tool for people like us and
I'm sorry... but how exactly does it hurt the user? If what you are
hearing happens to be true... doesn't that just mean good news for
Maya? I don't see any bad news for Softimage here. Softimage ain't
loosing anything. It's Maya whose gaining.
Even if Softimage ends up loosing some user base
Good thoughts. The irritating thing to me is that the Maya/Max world
doesn't understand the workflow strengths of Softimage. If those tools
elsewhere turn out to be better, that's great. But lately it just feels
like momentum is the driving force, not quality of software.
Dave G
On
and if Maya does adopt ICE, well, then we users who are familiar with ICE
stand to gain, as it would make learning maya a little less painful.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Gallagher
davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote:
Good thoughts. The irritating thing to me is that the Maya/Max
Plus the ICE TDs will become more hireable . . . :)
Sent from my iPhone
On 2012-12-20, at 12:18 AM, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:
and if Maya does adopt ICE, well, then we users who are familiar with ICE
stand to gain, as it would make learning maya a little less painful.
On
Softimage is better than its ever been and yet every year we still have to
go through the death rumors... tradition I guess. Ultimately the software
is owned by AD and they have the option to nurture it or destroy it as they
please. If AD robs the best bits and innovation from Softimage, then I'm
Well, that's the cycle of life. In the end, ain't that the beauty of our
industry? Things are evolving rapidly. There are always new softwares, new
technologies to learn and adopt. Old non evolving technologies slowly die
to make way to new better technologies.
There are schools that teach
Its like an oil company suppressing the pursuit of alternative fuels, by
artificially balancing out any innovation AD has succeeded in keeping the
industry stagnant for the past decade
On 19 December 2012 19:05, Doeke Wartena clankil...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, that's the cycle of life. In the
exactly, why are you surprised?
they hired the talent (whats left of it that is!) that made ICE and the
talent that made Naiad. if that wasn't good enough indication about what
was going to happen then i dont know what is!
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Francois Lord flordli...@gmail.com
Don't iterate. Instead:
Get Point ID -- Select in Array -- Set Particle Position
gray
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Nuno Conceicao
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 02:44 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who can actually do something
about it, we don't have the proper context to know what is happening and
what is coming.
We've been through this, not again!
Wish The Foundry had bought Softimage...
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of César Sáez
Sent: 19 décembre 2012 14:56
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who
lets not go there... autodesk isn't the only company raising prices and
gobbling up tech/talent/software.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau
marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com wrote:
Wish The Foundry had bought Softimage…
** **
*From:*
Hehehe, I hope The Foundry buys SideFX and gives us Modini! ;)
I'd contact the Solid Angle guys and beg them to write MOtoA!
Cheers
Steffen
2012/12/19 Marc-Andre Carbonneau marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com
Wish The Foundry had bought Softimage…
** **
*From:*
People love to freak out over legalese they only partially understand;
makes for a nice sensationalist headline, like when Dropbox changed its
terms a bit and everyone's like omg! they claim ownership over my files to
derive variations as they please?!.
Anyway, back to Instagram:
Thanks Grahame, it works...now I remember, ICE does an iteration for all
the points of the cloud every frame, am I correct?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Grahame Fuller grahame.ful...@autodesk.com
wrote:
Don't iterate. Instead:
Get Point ID -- Select in Array -- Set Particle Position
It divides them into buckets and multi-threads them. Same thing in the end, but
you get there faster.
gray
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Nuno Conceicao
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 03:26 PM
To:
I agree.
'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all
doubt.'
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
Sent: 19 December 2012 20:44
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject:
+1
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Bystrom
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:58 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
that would be a good idea yes
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Eric
I'd boot all people mentioning the two M-products from Ad on this list! ;)
2012/12/19 Andreas Bystrom andreas.byst...@gmail.com
that would be a good idea yes
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote:
Can we boot people from the list for starting or
Can we boot people
I think you are taking this way to seriously, who would make that decision
anyway.. you?
On 19 December 2012 20:58, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.comwrote:
+1
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*From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
Still less hacky-ish than what I was talking above q:
Great solution, thanks for sharing (:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Aloys Baillet aloys.bail...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
We have worked around this by taking the libssl and libcrypto from a
CentOS 5.3 machine and put it in the
A Rumor will have been around the whole world before the Truth has its
shoes on.
If only the Truth stopped being such a precious F'in princess and started
running barefoot...
ICE was evolutionary, fresh, new, well thought, much needed, and an
inspiration to many when it came out. It is, however,
ya, lets not overreact...
in this case it isn't a rumor, we know autodesk bought both softimage and
naiad... we know they re-tasked our developers... we know maya fears the
houdini fx dominance... so of course they are going to make new fx tools in
maya. and besides, node graphs and
+1
On 19 December 2012 17:12, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote:
ya, lets not overreact...
in this case it isn't a rumor, we know autodesk bought both softimage and
naiad... we know they re-tasked our developers... we know maya fears the
houdini fx dominance... so of course they are going
Tim and others should feel free to post here, and as one of the admin
of this list I will make sure he continues to have the rights to, as
per Autodesk social media policy, and plain common sense. I fought
for this mailing list to stay up; it exists for users to talk to each
other.
On Wed, Dec
Am I the only one on this list that ever risked a ban by you back then? ;)
But yeah, I can't say I liked the post much, or found it particularly
useful, but it's hardly inflamatory and doesn't feel malicious. I'll take
the occasional post like that over the police state feeling of an overly
Come on, it's almost fun in the end :)
And, in 40 years when THEY will stop Softimage, people will say :
- Ah, I told you so !
Le 19/12/2012 21:43, Eric Thivierge a écrit :
Can we boot people from the list for starting or spreading rumors?
Please? Especially with no solid backup of what they
Hi Tim,
ICE will not move to Maya but Maya may integrate a system similar to ICE. This
move should actually benefit all Softimage users... Think about it, wouldn't
all Softimage ICE users benefit this new system first with our prior knowledge
of ICE compared to the newbies...
As for whether
The value is understanding how things work under the hood so you know how to
construct the graphs efficiently to accomplish goals. Having a graph interface
is just that, an interface. In that regard, ICE knowledge will probably be not
very useful as Softimage's internal guts are very
Hi Chris,
Here are the quick repro steps demonstrating what I was saying...
Turn off child compensate.
Create two nulls, parent one(child) to the other(parent).
Set the global transforms of the child null to something like posy = 1,
rotx = 3.
Run match all transforms on the parent null to the
I should add - the fear is once the Maya equivalent of ICE goes live, many
current Maya users now using ICE will likely revert back to Maya's built in
system because it's a lot more convenient than shipping stuff back n' forth
between Maya and Softimage and learning two different softwares.
I'd guess 90% of ICE users don't know what goes on under the hood. They do
OK.
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.comwrote:
The value is understanding how things work under the hood so you know how
to construct the graphs efficiently to accomplish goals. Having a
The point isn't whether people would be functional, it's about whether the
knowledge is portable. To be portable requires some degree of semblance. A ui
alone won't do that.
Matt
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
pretty much depends on if there is to be a Softimage keyboard layout
and ICE terminology toggle in Maya FX :)
oh and hide all garish 80's style icons would be great to!
best
Rob
On 20 December 2012 01:10, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
The point isn’t whether people would be
There's always been rumor and silliness on this list. Personally I like hearing
the rumors - if its traveling around word-of-mouth I'd just as soon hear it
here too, where it can be refuted (or not.) Sure some people get worked up (me?
Never!) and bandwidth is used, but the more free-flowing
Modini… LOL
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andy Moorer
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:14 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
There's always been rumor
Sorry for the reduced quote, but how many of those do you actually know or
hear about?
I can count exactly zero. I have yet to hear about ANYBODY using Soft just
for ICE and going back and forth, unless they already had licenses and
reason to have it around.
Those who would use Soft solely for
As you may remember I owned and operated a Softimage training center in
Chicago. I still get calls from former clients and colleagues who work in
post-production creating special effects for commercials and corporate video.
They are primarily Maya users but need to do stuff that Maya isn't
Nah, wasn't even remotely implying you would be making BS up. It was an
actual question, possibly poorly worded if it came across otherwise though.
Thanks for answering it, it must be a sector of the market, users or
geography wise, I simply don't know or interact with at all, as I had never
But I feel bad when I tell my riggers not to use a native command of
Softimage as simple as the MatchTransform.
Hey Jeremie,
As a temporary workaround you may edit the 'uixsiscrips.vbs' located in
Softimage \Application\DSScripts.
The MatchPoseProc( in_sel, io_pick, in_Type, in_Local
Come on, it's almost fun in the end :)
And, in 40 years when THEY will stop Softimage, people will say :
- Ah, I told you so !
Le 19/12/2012 21:43, Eric Thivierge a écrit :
Can we boot people from the list for starting or spreading rumors?
Please? Especially with no solid backup of what they
OK my take on this - whatever AD is doing is pretty pointless worrying about or
complaining about, it only winds you up - so all I want to add is this -
I have found that it is very difficult to find work as a Softimage veteran now,
pretty much 99% of listings are for Maya users, and unlike the
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