Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-20 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Schoenberger x...@digidragon.de wrote: Not like .IFF, which can also do everything (even maya scene files are actually the .IFF format). MAC and PC save the format differently, RGB + CMYK + YCbCr + CIE Lab, 5 different compressions (lzw required a paid

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-19 Thread Schoenberger
_ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:21 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? yep :) ...i am

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Eric Cosky
in the resulting image or time of rendering? Thanks From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Steven Caron
:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? ** ** tifs are perfectly fine... they support many bit depths, mip mapping, and tiling. i did a comparison to exr as a texture format years ago and OIIO/Arnold liked the tif files better. s ** ** On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:06

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Alan Fregtman
] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? ** ** tifs are perfectly fine... they support many bit depths, mip mapping, and tiling. i did a comparison

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Steven Caron
[mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? ** ** tifs are perfectly fine... they support many bit depths

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Gene Crucean Sent: 15 novembre 2012 23:15 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? The problem, is that they constantly break things or just don't work. If you can get them to work consistently

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Jonathan Laborde
@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? ** ** The problem, is that they constantly break things or just don't work. If you can get them to work consistently on your end... more power to ya. ** ** bmp? xpm? Naa... photos. Analog. Keepin it real over here

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Tiff are indeed fine - unfortunately many apps have not implemented the full API of Tiff and support multiple channels. Does this tiff load in the flipbook or fxtree? I saw an bug report here about the latest mental ray version not being able to load tiff that had more than 4 channels, maybe

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Seeley
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format?  I always thought tiff was the least offensive format but after running into some issues with the byte order

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Caron
-load times down when compositing. Flame/Smoke can't load them of course! Adam -- *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat si...@theembassyvfx.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Caron
no, it says.. 'No file parser to read this image type : c:\temp\7channels.tif' it seems to be just the extra channels throwing the parser off, cause it opens the 4 channels 16bit flavor fine. also, this isn't mental ray unless softimage is somehow using mental ray's image library to load files

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Gene Crucean
-- *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat si...@theembassyvfx.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format? I always thought tiff was the least

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
keeps re-load times down when compositing. Flame/Smoke can't load them of course! Adam -- *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat si...@theembassyvfx.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Caron
...@theembassyvfx.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format? I always thought tiff was the least offensive format but after running into some issues

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format? I

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Gene Crucean Sent: 15 novembre 2012 23:15 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? The problem, is that they constantly

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Seeley
: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? Mental ray on supports 8 bit png, afaik On Nov 16, 2012 1:26 PM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: png is an excellent format regardless of what it was designed for. But yes, it's true they aren't for everything. On Fri

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format? I always thought tiff was the least offensive format but after running

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
XSI really doesn't have a Native format, it just has a default value in the rendering ppg .pic is just a file format like the others; there is no additional conversion when using the other format in Softimage, or loss of meta-data. All the image file formats in softimage have the API. Plus, if

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
But am i incorrect in the assumption that of all those formats Pic is the only format the Softimage developers have full control over? IE they have the ability to modify its structure at will? Doesn't that classify it as native to Softimage? I realize that when the image library .so was made

16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
hey gang am i right on this? i am trying to see a 16bit tif file inside softimage without luck. steven

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering format for arnold during publish. in the mean time when developing an asset this is what my typical settings are when saving from PS. compression = none pixel order = interleaved byte order = ibm pc save image pyramid = off layer

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Chapman
bet you its CMYK and not RGB :) On 15 November 2012 23:06, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering format for arnold during publish. in the mean time when developing an asset this is what my typical settings are when saving from PS.

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
I've had success with 16bpp greyscale tiffs (heightmaps mostly) but generally I use exr if I'm going above 8bpp, just a much more predictable format when extra depth is required. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: no compression... i am converting them to an

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
nope, its RGB On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: bet you its CMYK and not RGB :) On 15 November 2012 23:06, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering format for arnold during publish. in the

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? ** ** nope, its RGB

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Matt Lind
Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? not on purpose... the settings i choose out of photoshop for compression is none and discard layers On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.commailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: It is using LZW compression

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
imf_info.exe C:\temp\blue_chair_color.tif width height comp bits gamma line type format file 2048 20484 16 1 down rgba_16 tif C:\temp\blue_chair_color.tif doesn't say anything about compression, i am pretty sure its not compression... unless photoshop is doing something i

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Matt Lind
Imginfo.exe will tell you compression scheme Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:09 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? ** ** imf_info.exe C:\temp\blue_chair_color.tif width height comp bits gamma line type format file 2048 20484 16 1 down rgba_16

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
Na. Photoshop would NEVER do that. Joey Ponthieux Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. On 11/15/2012 7:08 PM, Steven Caron wrote: .unless

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
What do people here use as a standard format? I always thought tiff was the least offensive format but after running into some issues with the byte order bs we're wondering if png's might be better? On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: .tif's = the

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
oh i should add, tifs are perfectly fine in arnold... they have been a pain in the past with mental ray, but fortunately i dont have to use mental ray much if at all anymore. s On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: tifs are perfectly fine... they support many

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Stephen Davidson
I use PSD files, as textures in Softimage, no problem. It evens sees the transparency (32 bit). I have had issues with TIFF On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: oh i should add, tifs are perfectly fine in arnold... they have been a pain in the past with mental

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
psd files dont render in arnold ;( On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: I use PSD files, as textures in Softimage, no problem. It evens sees the transparency (32 bit). I have had issues with TIFF On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Steven Caron

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
but thats more photoshop's fault... openexr has support for many different compression options... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenEXR#Compression_methods it could save photoshop layers as channels and with proexr plugin i believe you can. now with openexr 2.0 coming out they have support for

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Totally, why on earth would anyone ever want some functionality or versatility?! Down with it! Bring MS' bmp back, I say. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: That's *exactly *why I hate them. Wa too many flavors and options for people to f**k

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Eric Thivierge
Tiffs apparently don't work on Apple machines. :P Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Totally, why on earth would anyone ever want some functionality or

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Alan Fregtman
bmp?! Now you're talking fancy... XPM files all the way! On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Totally, why on earth would anyone ever want some functionality or versatility?! Down with it! Bring MS' bmp back, I say. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Any sort of compression per chance? Not too sure about 16bit, but most compression schemes have been a flat no-go for me before when it comes to tifs and PS. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: hey gang am i right on this? i am trying to see a 16bit tif file

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Gene Crucean
The problem, is that they constantly break things or just don't work. If you can get them to work consistently on your end... more power to ya. bmp? xpm? Naa... photos. Analog. Keepin it real over here. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: