Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Ian
Following Tims lead on this, this news is disheartening. Can anyone dismiss these findings? - Original Message - From: Tim Zarbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] From the UK: Is this corroborated by any other

Re: [biofuel] Conservation may be a virtue...

2001-05-04 Thread Appal Energy
Sir, You have apparently not taken the trouble to accurately read previous text or context, much less concern yourself with digesting it. Thank you, Appal Energy, for a fiery and lengthy response to my simple statement that conservation of finite resources only changes the timeline, not the

Re: [biofuel] Diesel motorbikes

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi All, I'm very excited about using BioDiesel, and intend to make my own soon. Thanks to Steve and all the other contributors for thir valuable information. I've been reading about it and saving your posts! The Christian science Monitor recently had an article on a gentleman in Pennsylvania who

Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bio-diesel is 10 times more carcinogenic than low sulphur diesel, exhaust fumes smell like oily chips and running costs are inflated, says Volvo. Responding to a report by the British Association of Bio Fuels, which promoted the fuel as the 'fuel of the future' Volvo

Re: [biofuel] washing bio-diesel

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi David Do a search in the archives for lipase. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Hi Folks, Todd brought up something interesting here. Solid catalyst ! Could someone please tell those of us who don`t know. What do

Re: [biofuel] From the UK: Volvo/Chalmers/Study Misrepresented

2001-05-04 Thread Ed Beggs
This link explains some of it. The scientist's work was fine, but was not done in an engine, so the emissions results are not the same as from a diesel engine. Volvo provides some funding for projects at the centre where the thesis originated (Chalmers Institute in Sweden). What their reasoning

[biofuel] Automakers, environmentalists agree on clean vehicle tax credits

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/04/2 4/national1643EDT0692.DTL Automakers, environmentalists agree on clean vehicle tax credits NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, April 24, 2001 Breaking News Sections (04-24) 13:43 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread ian
Thanks Keith :) - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] From the UK: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bio-diesel is 10 times more carcinogenic than low sulphur diesel, exhaust fumes

[biofuel] Re: Stainless Steel Tank Sources

2001-05-04 Thread k5farms
Another source of SS tanks is most dairy farms that no longer produce milk(there are millions of them) most had a bulk tank from 500-5000 gallon capacity, insulated and chillable. Not much of a cash market, so the plate of cookies and ya know. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], david e cruse

Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Keith and all: Disseminate this, from Chalmers, to everyone you ever come across. Cross post it, print it, put it on your web site, link, issue a press release shout it from the rooftops. It'll do more good than ranting about Olsson. Then maybe we can all put this behind us once and for all. And

Re: [biofuel] Volvo/Swedish biodiesel report

2001-05-04 Thread Biofuels
Thanks for the cutting - I will be taking this up with Volvo, as I suggest anybody else in a position to do so does. This is based on a Reuters report last year, which said that Jim Olsson had obtained these results. Fair enough - he did - but by burning biodiesel in air at 550 deg C - vastly

Re: [biofuel] From the UK: Volvo/Chalmers/Study Misrepresented

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ed This link explains some of it. The scientist's work was fine, but was not done in an engine, so the emissions results are not the same as from a diesel engine. The trouble is that he insists they are the same. Volvo provides some funding for projects at the centre where the thesis

Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Keith and all: Disseminate this, from Chalmers, to everyone you ever come across. Cross post it, print it, put it on your web site, link, issue a press release shout it from the rooftops. It'll do more good than ranting about Olsson. Then maybe we can all put this behind us once and for all. And

Re: [biofuel] Volvo/Swedish biodiesel report

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks for the cutting - I will be taking this up with Volvo, as I suggest anybody else in a position to do so does. This is based on a Reuters report last year, which said that Jim Olsson had obtained these results. Fair enough - he did - but by burning biodiesel in air at 550 deg C - vastly

Re: [biofuel] Land Rover 2 1/4 Diesel

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Dave Fellows BD'ers, Anyone with experience of the Land Rover 2 1/4 litre diesel engine with either straight veg oil and/or biodiesel? Failing that, Sherpa 2.5 diesel. Any changes to seals and/or timing required. Any info appreciated. Same as yours Keith, Lightweight 2.25 petrol in need of

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Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bio-diesel is 10 times more carcinogenic than low sulphur diesel, exhaust fumes smell like oily chips and running costs are inflated, says Volvo. Responding to a report by the British Association of Bio Fuels, which promoted the fuel as the 'fuel of the future' Volvo

Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Tim Zarbo
Well Keith, I don't know...DO I want to fry rape oil in a pan? -- Until I found joined this forum, I had never heard of Rape. But from the little info I have found it's in the same family (brassica) as Mustard and Canola-- both of which are edible, and I find quite tasty (especially the German

Re: [biofuel] Nitrated glycerides

2001-05-04 Thread Biofuels
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Re: [biofuel] glycerol

2001-05-04 Thread jmcdan3373
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Re: [biofuel] alternate foggers

2001-05-04 Thread jmcdan3373
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Re: [biofuel] Moderation + topics

2001-05-04 Thread jmcdan3373
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Re: [biofuel] From the UK: Volvo/Chalmers/Study Misrepresented

2001-05-04 Thread David Reid
Thanks Ed, Yeah they are here in the most technologically advanced countries alright but in a lot of countries they dont yet exist. In 5 years they will probably exist almost everywhere but what worries me a little bit is that in the meantime quite a bit of harm can be done to

[biofuel] Re: standards

2001-05-04 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Yes, good point. Need to get the standards out there, as well as handy, inexpensive test procedures for small producers. Ed B. - Original Message - From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

Re: [biofuel] biod mixer pumps

2001-05-04 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
What's say all 600+ members send personal emails to the next person who can't read an unsubscribe instruction (AT THE BOTTOM OF EVERY MESSAGE) and tell them how to do it, eh? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001

Re: [biofuel] Volvo/Swedish biodiesel report

2001-05-04 Thread Ralph Chamberlain
Any listing or posting of the retraction? I emailed and phoned Volvo USA and the main website. - Original Message - From: Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Volvo/Swedish biodiesel report Volvo sent copies

Re: [biofuel] biod mixer pumps

2001-05-04 Thread David Reid
- Original Message - From: NBT - E. Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] biod mixer pumps What's say all 600+ members send personal emails to the next person who can't read an unsubscribe instruction (AT THE

Re: [biofuel] From the UK - natural gas reserves

2001-05-04 Thread Biofuels
Now, here's an interesting one! I have been asked to appear before the Energy Committee of the Northern Ireland Assembly as a sort of expert* witness to comment on the publication - Vision 2010 - Energy Action Plan. I found it full of bull about the benefits of natural gas, which rather got up my

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Distillation

2001-05-04 Thread david e cruse
Craig ( Green Bay ) Yes those units will work for methanol/ethanol recovery when you`re making biodiesel. Cost would be your only consideration. I have seen the same kind of equipment on other websites. David Cruse - Original Message - From: cpech [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] glycerin

2001-05-04 Thread david e cruse
Hi David R., Hey if they are that far away, don`t worry about them. I`ll get around to the Mall, there is a Borders Book store there and it`s not a 40 k hike to the place. Thanks, David Cruse - Original Message - From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Stainless Steel Tank Sources

2001-05-04 Thread david e cruse
Thanks k5, David Cruse - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Stainless Steel Tank Sources Another source of SS tanks is most dairy farms that no longer produce milk(there are millions of

Re: [biofuel] glycerin

2001-05-04 Thread David Reid
David, Normally go into the city once or twice a week anyway to get supplies and other things so no problem. B.r., David Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject

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2001-05-04 Thread Richard Hoard
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Re: [biofuel] Vapour Carburetion

2001-05-04 Thread jerry dycus
Hi David and All, The only way to get better mileage is to convert more heat to mechanical energy, ie eff.. All a carb does is mix fuel. Fuel injection does this almost perfectly now. There's not a chance in h--- that a vapor/ prouge or other types of carbs will do better

Re: [biofuel] I misstated the price of corn

2001-05-04 Thread wljohnson
How would one go about purchasing some of that $1.00 per gallon oil?? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [biofuel] glycerin

2001-05-04 Thread david e cruse
Hi David R. Thanks again. David Cruse - Original Message - From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin David, Normally go into the city once or twice a week anyway to get supplies

Re: [biofuel] I misstated the price of corn

2001-05-04 Thread Tim Zarbo
mee too--mee too!!! ;) -TZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] I misstated the price of corn How would one go about purchasing some of that $1.00 per gallon oil?? Biofuel at Journey to

RE hempRe: [biofuel] JIM Befuddling post

2001-05-04 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Jim and All, --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An explanation: My post was a response (included below) to someone who, in my opinion, was using the US gov'ment and the DEA in specific as scapegoats in his discussion of hemp's reluctance in

Re: [biofuel] Farmers seek boost from veggie fuel

2001-05-04 Thread jgrove5540
Todd, can biodiesel be used unwashed with 50/50 mix of regular no.2 diesel fuel ans can isoprophl alc. be used instead of boilin after final wash? Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To

Re: [biofuel] glycerol

2001-05-04 Thread Matt Schaid
I run a small soap and toiletries business right now. The web site is www.cssoap.com but its not up yet because I downed it for improvements. Anyway, I am just researching biodesiel right now. I would be interested in the glycerin, as I use it in making more enriched soap(melt and pour

Re: [biofuel] Farmers seek boost from veggie fuel

2001-05-04 Thread Appal Energy
Todd, can biodiesel be used unwashed with 50/50 mix of regular no.2 diesel fuel ans can isoprophl alc. be used instead of boilin after final wash? Thanks .. I would not run an unwashed bio-diesel if you are using the standard methods of manufacture - lye or KOH, not at any

Re: [biofuel] question on biodiesel

2001-05-04 Thread wljohnson
I would think that it would depend on the PH level of the biodiesel, also if WVO is used I would definitely wash. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

[biofuel] Re: From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread k5farms
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bio-diesel is 10 times more carcinogenic than low sulphur diesel, exhaust fumes smell like oily chips and running costs are inflated, says Volvo. Responding to a report by the British Association of

Re: [biofuel] Vapour Carburetion

2001-05-04 Thread Benteaches
In a message dated 05/03/2001 6:56:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: stories covered tests conducted by Ford Motor Company of Canada and others in which a 1935 Ford V8 fitted with a Pogue Vaporizer got over 200 mpg. Sounds a bit like overunity.. [Non-text

Re: [biofuel] Fogger data collection

2001-05-04 Thread Benteaches
In a message dated 05/03/2001 9:24:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was interested to hear of these air pumps used in late model emmision control systems. I played with one today. It put out about 2 psi at a fairly lage volume. I have used 12 volt automotive fuel

Re: [biofuel] glycerol

2001-05-04 Thread martin.brook
where r u? - Original Message - From: Matt Schaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerol I run a small soap and toiletries business right now. The web site is www.cssoap.com but its not up yet because I downed

[biofuel] Re: From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Do you have a source for this? It'd be useful to show what we're rebutting. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yes, I

Re: [biofuel] biod mixer pumps

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
NBT - E. Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's say all 600+ members send personal emails to the next person who can't read an unsubscribe instruction (AT THE BOTTOM OF EVERY MESSAGE) and tell them how to do it, eh? Hi Ed - I'll second that!! (and third and fourth it too!) It's also in

Re: [biofuel] From the UK:

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tim Well Keith, I don't know...DO I want to fry rape oil in a pan? -- Until I found joined this forum, I had never heard of Rape. But from the little info I have found it's in the same family (brassica) as Mustard and Canola-- both of which are edible, and I find quite tasty (especially

Re: [biofuel] Volvo/Swedish biodiesel report

2001-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Volvo sent copies of retraction. UK - Norman Thomas and Ray Cattley (UK Environmental Manager) Sweden - Per Olof Ryd (Technical Manager) Well done Good, Terry - now let's see if they change their stance or not. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo

Re: [biofuel] glycerin

2001-05-04 Thread David Reid
Hi David C, Went to town this afternoon and dug out the books on Glyceryn. Couldnt find one of the ones I wanted but found the other which is excellent and I would recommend, Dug out 4 books, 2 on Glycerine, and 2 on Fatty acids or Fatty Alcohols, which are related topics,

[biofuel] Biodesiel/bioethanol

2001-05-04 Thread rgarrod
Hello, I have found this list very interesting - I have been looking at many resources on biofuels for a while now and I noticed that there is a lot of reference to biodesiel, but less to bioethanol. Is biodesiel more environmentally sound? Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[biofuel] Re:Volvo study

2001-05-04 Thread David Preskett
Don't normally get drawn into this BUT: Little bird told me that Volvo have invested loadsa money in road fuel gas (LPG) driven vehicles as enviro-freindly fuel. Is this why they chose to knock an even more enviro-freindly fuel Regards Dave Preskett Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [biofuel] glycerin

2001-05-04 Thread david e cruse
Hi David R. Thank you for taking the time, and I agree on the small plant scenario. I will try to get the first book you mention asap. There is some good info at www.britannica.com . I started out by just entering glycerol, and that is a short entry, three