[Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread jfreeman2001
With oil prices at an all-time high and Big Oil reporting record profits this year has been exceptional. Am I missing something? If prices for a raw input go up then the sale price also goes up. However, provided the prices go up at near the same rate of the inputs then profits

Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions

2005-03-31 Thread Ken Dunn
Thanks for the suggestions. I am planning to process on the scale that presents itself (based on whatever every free equipment finds me). However, I have been thinking that spent hot water heaters seem to be the way to go for processors. Thanks again, Ken

[Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread Trey McCay
Mr. Hubbert obviously did not understand Mr. Joseph Newman's Gyroscopic Particle Theory. If he did, he would confirm Big Oil's contention that there is a near infinite supply. ;) T (ducking) On 3/30/05 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 1950s, a petroleum geologist

RE: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, Greg Palast, though definitely left wing, is a great journalist, who follows up his leads and documents his stories before going to print. He«ll throw the occassional low blow but for my money he speaks the truth. Tom Irwin -Original Message- From: Phillip Wolfe To: [EMAIL

RE: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Irwin
Hakan, Please understand and tell your friends that 48% of America voted against George Bush and his policies. That«s a lot of good people. I think that many who voted for Bush did so based on fear or his stand to overturn existing abortion laws. Many of the 48% feel he«s leading the country and

[Biofuel] Blending Pumps

2005-03-31 Thread Jules Veres
Hi Everybody, I am fairly new to this list but I find fascinating all the experience and knowledge of people here! I live in PA but originally from Hungary where we use lot of Diesel engines. I would like to convert my house heater and diesel truck to BD that is why I joined the first place. I

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-31 Thread TLC Orchids and Such
Where can we get the veg-based motor oil? Can better oil filtering help with this problem? Racor has a motor oil filter used in race cars. - Original Message - From: stephan torak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stephan torak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005

RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out

2005-03-31 Thread biodiesel
Hello, all I'm new to the list and am catching up on all the conspiracies so have withheld comment up to this point. However, I felt it necessary to jump in here... Tom, Your logic on the river flows is .. Well.. Not logical. If the rivers drop to 1/3 their current flow once the glaciers

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-31 Thread Rachel Burton
I too have requested a more detailed explanation for the information we learned at last year's Elsbett workshop in North Carolina. I sent off this question : What is the main reason Elsbett suggests not using soybean oil as a fuel- Is it due to its high iodine number? Or is it just due

[Biofuel] Re: A quest to ruin the Earth

2005-03-31 Thread Marc DeGagne
Wow, This information sounds SO drastic. I will imediatly build a time machine and return to a time when there was no offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. The increased harvest of commercial fish that is now happening must be stopped. I will tell the People on their soap boxes that

RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out

2005-03-31 Thread Hakan Falk
Tom, It is much research and many good specialists, I wrote a little bit about it, Fossil energy depletion and emission http://energysavingnow.com/depletion/ Association for the study of peak oil gas http://peakoil.net/ If you know so well where the oil fields are, why do not tell all the

Re: [Biofuel] Re: A quest to ruin the Earth

2005-03-31 Thread Doug Younker
I will also buy a large supply of plugs and go around the world plugging the cracks in the earth that leak the equivalent of TWO Exxon Valdeese tankers of oil into the sea every day. I now see that this is killing the world. Farmer Paul Sorry if I'm taking the above out of context, but the

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-31 Thread DB
polymerzation of the engine. After a careful reading of the australian report WVO as a Diesel replacement fuel it is obvious that they are concerned with it's use as straight veggy oil and Not so much Bio-diesel.( I would be concerned too) Here is a direct quote from that report.

Re: @SPAM+++++++++ RE: [Biofuel] Study predicts growth of HCCI engines

2005-03-31 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Tom. No, quoting:HCCI is a low temperature combustion technology utilizing compression ignition of well-mixed air-fuel mixture.Unlike the conventional diesel engine, HCCI emits ultra low emissions of NOx and PM. On the negative side, it can produce increased HC and CO emissions. This is a

Re: @SPAM+++++++++ Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

2005-03-31 Thread Jan Warnqvist
I agree with you Todd. All chemical reactions of this kind carries a number of side reactions, but the amount or appetence of the glycerol cocktail cannot be used for judging the success of the transesterification(unless it is 10% by mass), but a determination of the content of the glycerol

[Biofuel] biodiesel reactor setup

2005-03-31 Thread cuneytm
Dear Sir/Madam, I would like to make simplest biodiesel reactor. Can any one guide me on this reactor. regards, cuneyt --- Orjinal mesaj --- From: Jules Veres To: Cc: Sent: Thu Mar 31 05:15:01 EEST 2005 Subject: [Biofuel] Blending Pumps Hi Everybody, I am

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-31 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello DB. Quoting :Trans esterifying triglyceride oils and fats with monohydric alcohols to form biodiesel largely eliminates the tendency of the oils and fats to polymerization and auto-oxidation.. I can add that this is the exact scenario with methyl ester from fish oil and linseed oil. Jan Jan

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-31 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello DB. Quoting :Trans esterifying triglyceride oils and fats with monohydric alcohols to form biodiesel largely eliminates the tendency of the oils and fats to polymerization and auto-oxidation.. I can add that this is the exact scenario with methyl ester from fish oil and linseed oil. Jan Jan

[Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-03-31 Thread D. Mindock
This device (see attached pic) is due for release, starting in Australia where Lutec Pty Ltd is located, and then to all countries where licensing is completed. This device can furnish the all the electricity needed by the average home and runs on battery power. It produces 15 times more

[Biofuel] Re: Lutec

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES
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Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread Hakan Falk
Hubbert was not a petroleum geologist, he was a mathematician and university professor in mathematics. He presented mathematical methods to calculate the depletion of any finite resource. In the 70's directly after the 1973 crises, he got the job from the US Parliament to calculate the

[Biofuel] biodiesel vs diesel data request

2005-03-31 Thread Evan Franklin
Folks, I have a statistics project due for class (im a spoh in college) and i need some data. Basically I need to find of biodiesel emits significantly less amounts of something (NOX, CO2 ect) over diesel, or if biodiesel has significantly less power than diesel, or something along the lines

Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

2005-03-31 Thread bob allen
Tom Irwin wrote: snip and anticipate the Department of Defense being renamed the Ministry of Peace. Orwell and Huxley should be read again by everyone. a couple of examples: The healthy Forests Initiatives which is intended to increase clear cutting and the Clear Skies program which

Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

2005-03-31 Thread Scott
Knowing that more than 100 million potential voters didn't bother to go to the polls, that percentage drops to approximately 24.5%. Bush was re-elected by less than a fourth of the country. I suspect that many of that minority were influenced by the two-word memes such as compassionate

Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions

2005-03-31 Thread ROY Washbish
Ken Where do you get a SPENT hot water heater that doesn't leak. For me ... that would be the reason to get rid of it. Thankks Wide open for ideas Roy Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darryl, Thanks for the suggestions. I am planning to process on the scale that presents itself (based on

Re: [Biofuel] A quest to ruin the Earth -- don't buy those plugs Farmer Paul (except for one)

2005-03-31 Thread Michael Redler
Farmer Paul Wrote: “Wow, This information sounds SO drastic. I will imediatly build a time machine and return to a time when there was no offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. The increased harvest of commercial fish that is now happening must be stopped. I will tell the People on

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Lutec

2005-03-31 Thread bob allen
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Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-03-31 Thread Michael Nehring
Hi, I've been on the list for a couple months now, reading happily, but have yet to post anything. So first, hi everyone:-). Internet scams or jokes are among my favorites, just because sometimes they're so funny and sometimes they're just so clever. I have to admit that this is pretty clever.

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel reactor setup

2005-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
I would like to make simplest biodiesel reactor. Can any one guide me on this reactor. regards, cuneyt See: Test-batch mini-processor Simple 5-gallon processor Journey to Forever 90-litre processor The 'Deepthort 100B' Batch Reactor Ian's vacuum biodiesel processor Chuck Ranum's

Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread bob allen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_King_Hubbert Hubbert was born in San Saba, Texas in 1903. He attended the University of Chicago, where he received his B.S. in 1926, his M.S. in 1928, and his Ph.D in 1937, studying geology, mathematics, and physics. He worked as an assistant geologist

Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread Henri Naths
speaks volumes about fair pricing structures. Diesel is cheaper to refine than gasoline! H. PS I think it was shell that said it spent x billions on hydrogen / vehicle research??!! A big tax write off! the hydrogen vehicle has been invented for 60 odd years.( well there's my rant for this

Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions

2005-03-31 Thread Kenny Dunn
Hi Roy, I have thought about that. It seems that I can probably find one that had a burned out element or an older low efficiency model and was replaced with a new fancy one. Also, any leak that isn't causing a deluge is probably weldable. Like I said, I'm keeping my eyes open for the best

RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Irwin
Greetings J, Just as common sense is not common, as long as the fuel cost does not hurt the U.S. consumer much there will be no outcry. The U.S. consumer pays one of the lowest prices for oil products of any nation not producing large volumes of the stuff. The oil companies are committing

Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

2005-03-31 Thread Michael Redler
I'd like to know how well the demographics for voting vs non-voting public match. Were the republican voters more committed? Were the ABB'ers too fragmented? ...anyone with some info on that? Mike R Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knowing that more than 100 million potential voters didn't

Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions

2005-03-31 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Many people are switching from electric hot water to propane, so the electric hot water heaters are available. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:15 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote: Ken Where do you get a SPENT hot water heater that doesn't leak. For me ... that would be the reason to get rid of it.

Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-03-31 Thread Henri Naths
approximately since man first rubbed two sticks together. HE. - Original Message - From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: 31 March, 2005 1:45 AM Subject: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device This device (see attached pic) is due for release, starting in

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel vs diesel data request

2005-03-31 Thread John Hayes
Folks, I have a statistics project due for class (im a spoh in college) and i need some data. Here is the US DOE/USDA biodiesel lifecycle report: http://devafdc.nrel.gov/pdfs/3812.pdf Virtually all the other pamphlets and fact sheets you'll find in the US (and elsewhere?) are based on

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Lutec

2005-03-31 Thread Bruno M.
The date of to day is 31 mars 2005, I beliefe that you're 1 day to early, to tell us the Lutec crap story. 1 April ( April fools day ) is tomorrow. ;-) But ah... do you have financial interest in this so called Lutec company? Or are just naive ? And didn't you noticed that this list is about

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?

2005-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
Anyone making bio-diesel should be concerned with the IV of the oil and the polymerzation of the engine. After a careful reading of the australian report WVO as a Diesel replacement fuel it is obvious that they are concerned with it's use as straight veggy oil and Not so much Bio-diesel.( I

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?

2005-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Keith biofuel list. I too have requested a more detailed explanation for the information we learned at last year's Elsbett workshop in North Carolina. I sent off this question : What is the main reason Elsbett suggests not using soybean oil as a fuel- Is it due to its high iodine

Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread Hakan Falk
Bob, I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an article about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this mistake again, but do not despair, there are many others I will do and

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Lutec

2005-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
There's no need to be so rude. If you really have to insult someone, at least try to be polite about it. :-) Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner Mr Mindock, The date of to day is 31 mars 2005, I beliefe that you're 1 day to

RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out

2005-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
Hakan, I will read what you have sent. However, the oil industry already knows where the oil is. I don't have to tell them. They do not make public their major finds because there is still some competition among the big players. I also have no plans to get rich at the expense of my children

Re: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread jfreeman2001
I wish I understood the currently relative higher price for diesel vs. gasoline in the US (I live in Massachusetts). There are certainly supply and demand factors related to winter use of diesel for home heating, as well as refineries running at high utilization and designed to optimize

RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Irwin
Hakan, I will read what you have sent. However, the oil industry already knows where the oil is. I don't have to tell them. They do not make public their major finds because there is still some competition among the big players. I also have no plans to get rich at the expense of my children and

RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread Phillip Wolfe
I believe today's article aligns with the current discussion. Oil Surges on 'Super-Spike' Prediction LONDON (Reuters) - Oil hurtled back up to $56 a barrel on Thursday as Goldman Sachs bank, the biggest trader of energy derivatives, said prices could ultimately surge all the way above $100.

RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Irwin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/30/05 11:38 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out Hello, all I'm new to the list and am catching up on all the conspiracies so have withheld comment up to this point. However, I felt it necessary to

RE: [Biofuel] Re: Lutec

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Irwin
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[Biofuel] Optimism

2005-03-31 Thread robert luis rabello
lost on the robins that are hopping around in my yard. My neighbors don't seem to notice, but the robins stay on my property and simply don't bother venturing anywhere else. Right now, there are about a dozen of them hunting outside my window. In between the rain storms, my sweetheart,

Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?

2005-03-31 Thread TLC Orchids and Such
What about the veg-based motor oil? Does it still polamerize when you use the veg-based motor oil? - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?

Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-03-31 Thread bob allen
from hearing about his work many years ago) Hakan Falk wrote: Bob, I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an article about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this mistake

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Lutec

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Bennett
Hi All, Some of you real physics guys have to tell me how this thing can possibly work. As near as I know from teaching the subject in school you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in. You can't even get the same energy out that you put in. How in the world can you get 15

Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-03-31 Thread JD2005
I see why they call it down under now.Perpetural motion isn't possible on this planet. I think not in this universe.This guy has slid over into another dimension or what? JD2005 - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005

Re: [Biofuel] when will it run out

2005-03-31 Thread bmolloy
Hi Tom, (snip) If I am wrong about oil, the industry will only shift to coal. It can be transformed to liquid fuel easily. The technology for that was developed in the 1980's by Air Products and Chemicals among many others. It's just waiting for the price of oil or the lack of it to make it