Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-05-01 Thread Paul Gobert
Thanks Ro onya! - Original Message - From: Joe Giacomini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust Not yet I will try some more experiments in the future. I need

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-30 Thread Joe Giacomini
Not yet I will try some more experiments in the future. I need a more controlled environment. I am using a non heated building where the control sample also displayed some separation. Sorry for the delayed response all the ranting and raving turned me off to wading through the emails. Mike

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Motie --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'd think of a better way. Courts, sure, and you're dead right about patents. Patents don't mean much these days, unless you're a big corp, and not even then - the big corps spend a lot of time and

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please forgive my cynicism, but it's also very possible the inventor would be worse than broke, and possibly in jail. As soon as this wonderful machine made it to market, the Big Energy Corps would have their own version, with a slight change made and patented, and would have you in Court for

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hi again m65 Please forgive my cynicism, but it's also very possible the inventor would be worse than broke, and possibly in jail. As soon as this wonderful machine made it to market, the Big Energy Corps would have their own version, with a slight change made and patented, and would have

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What has particularly ticked me off in recent years is to see the Auto companies, which are *not* oil companies though they may have ties, working so needlessly against another big non-fossil-fuel which is electricity. Ridiculous and dramatically anti-patriotic. Patriotic? The auto companies?

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
murdoch65 wrote: I am very interested in the last question of the series. What would you do if it was your invention? First let me mention that as to the article from which this question sprang, it was written by a fairly wide-eyed person who got a number of things wrong and let his

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve decided to take him at his word as to the efficiency of burning hydrogen but I disagree with this, as hydrogen fuel cells are making good progress and can be expected to make some more over the next ten or twenty years. Yes, I think that's right, but I do tend to take issue with the

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi m65 Thanks for an interesting letter. Interesting and interesting. Steve decided to take him at his word as to the efficiency of burning hydrogen but I disagree with this, as hydrogen fuel cells are making good progress and can be expected to make some more over the next ten or twenty

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-27 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'd think of a better way. Courts, sure, and you're dead right about patents. Patents don't mean much these days, unless you're a big corp, and not even then - the big corps spend a lot of time and money

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-21 Thread glenne1949
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Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-21 Thread steve spence
, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
would you do if it was your invention? Thanks, Kirk -Original Message- From: Pepu2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:10 AM To: kirk Subject: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust if the creation of such machine is that simple

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread glenne1949
Kirk, it appears to me that you are asking the wrong question. This is like asking what would happen if there were a free lunch, or if there were a perpetual motion machine. These are but dreams that will never happen. There isn't any such thing, and never can be. Every process has its

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:44 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for answering. I had thought it would stop war in the OPEC countries. THat one isn't clear to me. (snip

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:37:04AM -0600, kirk wrote: I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly evil conduct. Hold on there -- what's evil about witchcraft, the craft of the wise? Wicca is an extremely benevolent and peaceful religion, unlike christianity. I'd

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust Well said Harmon, I don't have your wealth of knowledge on this subject but I certainly

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread steve spence
, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust On Sat

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Kim Garth Travis
kirk wrote: There is a deliberate propaganda effort to demonize Arabic peoples and I loathe propaganda because it always presages violence. There is a plan afoot and it smells of blood. I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly evil conduct. Kindly re-read

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread George Wessel
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for answering. I had thought it would stop war in the OPEC countries. THat one isn't clear to me. (snip) I would offer that as the OPEC nations melt down from the oil barons

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Monty Berg
Goerge, Here are a few things I've put together. Since we had breached the topic and gone into religon and politics I'll post this here. Off topic as all get out but don't think for a second the west is on any high moral ground. January 16, 1991, when then President Bush attacked Baghdad,

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:41 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:37:04AM -0600, kirk wrote: I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
sure they don't block fire egress when you install them. Kirk -Original Message- From: George Wessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:47 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread AOAR Welch B.
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust kirk wrote: There is a deliberate propaganda effort to demonize Arabic peoples and I loathe propaganda because it always presages violence. There is a plan afoot and it smells of blood. I hate deception because

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust Goerge, Here are a few things I've put together. Since we had breached the topic and gone into religon and politics I'll post this here. Off topic as all get out but don't think for a second the west is on any high moral ground. January

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread AOAR Welch B.
Christ is free energy! -Original Message- From: kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 2:09 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust They always convince the peasants they are doing God's work

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
and that evil little retard, George W. Bush. -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:41 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:37

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Mike Frieders
, April 20, 2002 1:44 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for answering. I had thought it would stop war in the OPEC countries. THat one isn't clear to me. (snip) I would offer

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Steven-Lee Craig
Harmon, Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject. Too bad you didn't realize that study of religion is as a potent poison as one can ingest. After all, look what conclusion you came to. You dumped the

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Mike Frieders
Perhaps we could get back to the subject of bio-diesel. Someone was experimenting with electricity in seperating out the glycerin. Did you have any luck? What about temperature, will cold for example cause the glycerin to seperate out of solution? Does glycerin freeze before BD or the other

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread steve spence
/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Monty Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust Goerge, Here are a few things I've put together. Since we had

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:04:24PM -0400, Steven-Lee Craig wrote: Harmon, Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject. That's correct -- I not only have a degree from the Univ. of Wisc. that

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
5:35 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust Kirk, I don't know where you get off knocking witchcraft, the wicken religion was a very peaceful religion and harmonious with nature. The very demonizing you say is being applied

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 07:37:17PM -0600, kirk wrote: I believe the practice of witchcraft involves love potions etc. does it not? So the free will of another is fair game? Hm. . . Manipulation for gain. You see nothing wrong with that? Hoboy! Where do you get that stuff from, Kirk?

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread AOAR Welch B.
I just released some hydrogen sulfide gas.Is this free energy? just trying to get back on subject. -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:37 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 06:10:29AM +0400, AOAR Welch B. wrote: I just released some hydrogen sulfide gas.Is this free energy? Absolutely the most erudite and enlightened statement of the evening. Is your real name Ikkyu? OTOH, how is it free? Mine is produced at a significant cost of

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread robert luis rabello
Harmon Seaver wrote: You see, that's just what the problem is, the concept that christians have that theirs is the only true way, and so that gives them the right to torture, burn heretics and witches at the stake, destroy temples and sacred literature, and imprison or even kill

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:42:07PM -0400, steve spence wrote: Nice fantasy. No truth to it, but what the hell. No truth, eh? Gee, looked exactly like my kid's history books. Did they change them again? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-19 Thread Pepu2
if the creation of such machine is that simple then nobody would succeed to restrain its spread (although there probably would be attempts to do so). further, that would mean the need to re-allocate at least several million people to different businesses as very much of oil and related industries

RE: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-19 Thread kirk
in the last question of the series. What would you do if it was your invention? Thanks, Kirk -Original Message- From: Pepu2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:10 AM To: kirk Subject: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust if the creation

RE: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-19 Thread Keith Addison
fast though, very good coordination. But it could be done. Wow, what a scenario!! Best Keith Thanks, Kirk -Original Message- From: Pepu2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:10 AM To: kirk Subject: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-19 Thread George Wessel
the machine. I am very interested in the last question of the series. What would you do if it was your invention? Thanks, Kirk -Original Message- From: Pepu2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:10 AM To: kirk Subject: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below

[biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-18 Thread greenscitek
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kris Book) : Discovery Suggests Near Limitless Supply of Clean Fuel : ByƊRobert Matthews : Vancouver Sun : Monday, April 15, 2002 : LONDON -- Scientists have discovered vast quantities of hydrogen gas, widely regarded as the most promising alternative to today's dwindling

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-18 Thread steve spence
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