[biofuel] Oil heating techniques

2004-02-17 Thread j_schearer
x-charset ISO-8859-1I have some questions regarding efficient heating of the WVO prior to processing. In regards to Mike Pelly's conical processor and the electric hot water tank that Maria Alovert(Girl Mark) describes-what would be the most efficient way of heating the oil, and still do it

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

2004-02-17 Thread RGMTRUCK
In a message dated 02/16/2004 4:17:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It'll be a lot easier if you use KOH, potassium hydroxide, instead of NaOH, sodium hydroxide. With KOH the by-product won't solidify, makes it a lot easier to work with. We run it through a 1/8 valve

Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA

2004-02-17 Thread Chuck Cole
Thank you! Well said! - Original Message - From: murdoch To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:04:56 -0800, you wrote: It appears that we

Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA

2004-02-17 Thread Chuck Cole
Good start. I will do just that. Thank you! - Original Message - From: mcgeough65 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:43 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA Chuck, Here is some generic advice that I hope will be useful and

[biofuel] Make plans to shut O'Hare down long-term

2004-02-17 Thread npat1
Battle Lines Drawn Over Expanding O'Hare Sat February 14, 2004 08:16 AM ET By Karen Pierog CHICAGO (Reuters) - The world's busiest airport may get even busier -- ... Something has to be done at O'Hare as far as FAA officials are concerned. ... We've got to plan for the long-term future

[biofuel] Tucson Biofuel

2004-02-17 Thread Brian C.
Hello. I'm brand new to the biodiesel world. I am currently buying B-20 from a manufacturer in Tucson, but I would like to make my own. Is there anyone, or does anyone know anyone, in Tucson, AZ who would be willing to help in my learning process? Any info and/or contacts would be greatly

Re: [biofuel] Oil heating techniques

2004-02-17 Thread Ken Provost
on 2/16/04 1:17 PM, j_schearer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions regarding efficient heating of the WVO prior to processing. In regards to Mike Pelly's conical processor and the electric hot water tank that Maria Alovert(Girl Mark) describes-what would be the most efficient

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

2004-02-17 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Philip, Split it from the soap and catalyst using a FFA recovery process found at http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Then pass the glycerol/water/alcohol fraction over an evaporator and distill the alcohol out of it.

Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA

2004-02-17 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Uhhh..., not that I'm overly in love with government heavy handedness, but you have to look at this from a couple of other perspectives. One, the principal problem is in California, an extremely populated state, erego a need to some degree for noticeable regulation. Two,

Re: [biofuel] Oil heating techniques

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
I have some questions regarding efficient heating of the WVO prior to processing. In regards to Mike Pelly's conical processor and the electric hot water tank that Maria Alovert(Girl Mark) describes-what would be the most efficient way of heating the oil, and still do it safely? Some designs

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Rick In a message dated 02/16/2004 4:17:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It'll be a lot easier if you use KOH, potassium hydroxide, instead of NaOH, sodium hydroxide. With KOH the by-product won't solidify, makes it a lot easier to work with. We run it through a

Re: [biofuel] Tucson Biofuel

2004-02-17 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:47:15 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hello. I'm brand new to the biodiesel world. I am currently buying B-20 from a manufacturer in Tucson, but I would like to make my own. Is there anyone, or does anyone know anyone, in Tucson, AZ who would be willing to help in my learning

[biofuel] NOx reduction claim.

2004-02-17 Thread Sid4Salmon
Dear Fellows and Friends: I hope that this is helpful. Best regards, Sid.Clouston BIODIESEL gStudy Shows NOx Reductions in Biodiesel Blends with Additive,h by Biodiesel Bulletin staff. A newly-developed additive has been shown to reduce, by five percent, the one regulated emission that

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

2004-02-17 Thread bob allen
Tom I agree with your post, just the chemist in me must jump in briefly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The quick answer is no. Glycerin is a very viscous liquid, and the solidification point varies with the soap in it, the residual alcohol, and the completeness of the reaction. It is sometimes

Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA

2004-02-17 Thread murdoch
FWIW: I tend to agree with some of the objection(s) you've raised to my reasoning. What I mean is this: After I made my post, I realized that it was a rant and all, I wasn't sure I could stand by all of it. More specifically, it is not as though I am against all government regulation, or that

Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO pickup problems in CA

2004-02-17 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1 Shouldn't there be a balance? Mightn't the fees be lowered to account for the person's more moderate use? If you were to use economic principals as the foundation for variance in fee levels, fees would not be much lower based upon reduction in a plant's size. In

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Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

2004-02-17 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Bob, but is it really a problem? I would be more concerned about carbon monoxide, undetectable, than acrolein, which has a very acrid irritating odor, and hence detectable. I would tend to believe that acrolein is more of an emissions problem at the stack than as an

[biofuel] Re: Make plans to shut O'Hare down long-term

2004-02-17 Thread Tim
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[biofuel] Re: [evworld] Ford attacked on fuel policy

2004-02-17 Thread Tim
x-charset ISO-8859-1Ford, like any business, exists because there is a MARKET for their product. Attacking the businessman for simply practicing capitalism is a huge waste of time and resources, and will accomplish little. A better approach would focus on reducing demand for oversized gas

Re: [biofuel] Tucson Biofuel

2004-02-17 Thread Brian C.
I get the B-20 (20% soy ester, 80% diesel petrol) from Arizona Pertoleum. Today I paid $2.10/gallon. Usually its a bit cheaper than that. They are on Cherry St, just north of 22nd. Phone number 623-4721. A knowledgeable guy to talk to is Jerry. They also sell B-100 (100% soy ester) at a

[biofuel] Re: [evworld] Ford attacked on fuel policy

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tim Ford, like any business, exists because there is a MARKET for their product. Attacking the businessman for simply practicing capitalism is a huge waste of time and resources, and will accomplish little. Practising capitalism is no bad thing, or not necessarily, but I don't think that

[biofuel] Why is gasoline more expensive in Europe than in the UnitedStates?

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2004-02-17/s_12687.asp EarthTalk: Why is gasoline more expensive in Europe than in the United States? Tuesday, February 17, 2004 From the editors of E/The Environmental Magazine Dear EarthTalk: Why is gasoline so much more expensive in Europe than in the United

Re: [biofuel] Tucson Biofuel

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Brian I get the B-20 (20% soy ester, 80% diesel petrol) from Arizona Pertoleum. Today I paid $2.10/gallon. Usually its a bit cheaper than that. They are on Cherry St, just north of 22nd. Phone number 623-4721. A knowledgeable guy to talk to is Jerry. They also sell B-100 (100% soy ester)

[biofuel] Fwd: Fuel Cells: What's In It For Big Oil

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from the Homestead mailing list: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:14:40 -0800 From: Bill Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Homestead mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fuel Cells: What's In It For Big Oil The oil companies are really pouring money into finding ways to strip hydrogen off petroleum

Re: [biofuel] Tucson Biofuel

2004-02-17 Thread hyderan
Hello, I live just below Tucson and would like also to meet and work with someone who is producing BioDiesel. If anyone knows of such a group or persons.. I would like to Know. Thanks, Randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

2004-02-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
It *seems* that the distinction needs to be made between liquid acrolein (dangerous toxic scary, etc.) and the formation of acrolein and its effects as an exhaust emission ...which is not nice stuff, but in comparison to liquid acrolein is not the same sort of risk - as a product of

[biofuel] How Bush reversed regulatory effort on polluting gas additive

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2004-02-17/s_13168.asp How Bush reversed regulatory effort on polluting gas additive Tuesday, February 17, 2004 By Pete Yost, Associated Press WASHINGTON - The Bush administration quietly shelved a proposal to ban a gasoline additive that contaminates drinking water

[biofuel] Largest waste coal plant in world sprouts from Pennsylvania coalregion

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2004-02-17/s_13170.asp Largest waste coal plant in world sprouts from Pennsylvania coal region Tuesday, February 17, 2004 By Marc Levy, Associated Press SEWARD, Pennsylvania - When it began operating in 1921 at the height of Pennsylvania's coal production, the

[biofuel] E.U. wants to cut pollution from car tires

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2004-02-17/s_13162.asp E.U. wants to cut pollution from car tires Tuesday, February 17, 2004 By Reuters BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Commission adopted a proposal on Monday to cut pollution from rubber tires by limiting the presence of toxic chemicals. Oils

Re: [biofuel] Tucson Biofuel

2004-02-17 Thread murdoch
Thanks for writing this out. I'll save this info and stop by there the next time I am up there. On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:56:50 -0800 (PST), you wrote: I get the B-20 (20% soy ester, 80% diesel petrol) from Arizona Pertoleum. Today I paid $2.10/gallon. Usually its a bit cheaper than that. They

[biofuel] Re: Fwd: Fuel Cells: What's In It For Big Oil

2004-02-17 Thread murdoch
I don't know of anything to contradict what Bill Jones is saying as to the desire of Big Oil to reform Petroleum, but I don't think they're that afraid of Hydrogen. Certainly I could be wrong and their apparent recent support for H2 could in a way be a ruse. In the near-term, they would benefit