Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-10 Thread Ray in Atlanta GA
billion dead. Are you advocating a mass extermination of the worthless eaters like they are? JD2005 wrote: Hi; Ive been wondering out in the wilderness of the internet looking into boidiesel and SVO and the like.Alot of the most recent questions may be answered by a vistit to:

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-10 Thread John Wilson
The proportion of displaceable space (where the piston travels) to non-displaceable (everywhere else) has to be very high (20:1 or maybe : 22:1) to get this compression. That doesn't leave much of a: possibility to play with. (Reply) Why does the valve have to go up and down. at all? Why,

RE: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-10 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
This is done on small 4 stroke RC engines all the time. The problem is lubricating the rotary valve and controlling leakage. RC's use lots of lube in the fuel to deal with this issue. Also standard valve has the advantage of self-sealing on compression. Not so with a rotary valve. There is

[Biofuel] Methane to LPG car

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
To liquefy methane you need to take below -200K Degrees. Its called LNG. Methane is Natural Gas. You need to compress it to around 3000Psi To get effective storage in a car/truck/bus. Depended on driving distance. MT On the other hand, people have done it - Harold Bate, Jean Pain, I'm sure

Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
billion dead. Do they? Are you advocating a mass extermination of the worthless eaters like they are? It's all nonsense anyway, there's plenty of room for everyone EXCEPT THE GREEDY (and wasteful), who're quite a small minority. Check it out - eg: 12 Myths About Hunger Myth 1 -- Not

Re: [Biofuel] Methane to LPG car

2005-03-10 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith ; For a SI (Spark Ignition) engine the methane is mixed with air in a special gas/gas carburator, quite easy to make one yourself. For a diesel it is even easier if you can operate in a dual fuel mode. I did a fascinating experiment last month. I took a propane tank with a ordinary

[Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread info
Hi all, I've been playing around with an excellent circuit simulator applet. I had some circuit prototypes from a few years back. I copied the circuits in the java applet and did a bunch of modifications, testing all the way to see if the applet actually duplicated original real time

Re: [Biofuel] Re: JD2005

2005-03-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, I have a big problem with sentences about too many running around in the world. Keith have repeatedly shown that the world can support a good number of more people, if we started to be smarter and less egoistic. It is very symptomatic that the population group that complains most, is the

Re: [Biofuel] What is factory farming?

2005-03-10 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Well said. Thanks. --- Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair? Maybe, Phillip, but is it practical and applicable? Not to overwhelm the natural resources over the generations, something had to keep the human population in check. What where those events and are they something modern

Re: [Biofuel] was: Too many People

2005-03-10 Thread Ken Provost
on 3/9/05 5:23 PM, Hakan Falk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we start to talk about too many people running around, then the next question must be who they are. It then will be sorted out by what is sustainable, at the end it is no other possibility. The alternative is to start to move

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread Ken Provost
on 3/9/05 5:42 AM, Kim Garth Travis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, we are not hypocrites, but totally aware of what it takes to get factory meat to the table..I do not send my animals out to be slaughtered because I do not like the way the local processor treats the animals. I

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread Michael Redler
...not bad. As as student I was exposed to all the mainstream simulators (p-spice, microcap, etc.). But there is one that I've been using for about five years called TINA Pro. It is the most comprehensive simulator package that I've seen so far that doesn't cost thousands of dollars.

[Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People

2005-03-10 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. The way I think .. and why I think that must be understood before I can begin to understand the concept of change. If I can begin to grasp the programming that goes into my thinking, perhaps I can begin to

[Biofuel] W/SVO stove

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Denson
supply of cheap(below $10.00) Kerosene stoves/cookers,both pressurized and non-pressurized. I would like to find information on the possibility of using these stoves with W/SVO. Regards Kaydee. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread info
I know its does not cover everything but it is quite useful and a great teaching tool. On another level it is nothing compared to some of the software that I have seen. Just the same it gets the job done. I copied some breadboarded voltage doublers and triplers I had lying around by drawing

[Biofuel] betacarotene and tocopherol from palm oil

2005-03-10 Thread e1
betacarotene and tocopherol can extracted from palm oil. i think biodiesel price will decrease if biodiesel plant also recovery betacarotene and tocopherol from the oil. i don't know about the other vegetables oil, but i think some vegetables oil have it. Send instant messages to your online

Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People

2005-03-10 Thread Busyditch
This is an excellent book! I recommend it to everyone. It certainly opened up my eyes in the way I think, and the way I live my life. I was going through a divorce at the time and it put a lot into perspective. - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Biofuel, rust and gunk

2005-03-10 Thread Trey McCay
This oft stated fact begs a question: Any aspiring mechanics using B100 as a parts cleaner? How fast does B100 work its magic? I ask because I run a small auto shop as my night job and think this a better, healthier alternative to the petrol stuff. And if it will remove the gunk from bad

[Biofuel] Drying of spent wash

2005-03-10 Thread Prakash Srinivasan
Hello everyone, We have to dry spent wash from distilleries in order to use the solids leftout as a fuel in the boiler. Can we have a sugestion to dry it economically ? S. Prakash ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Re: JD2005

2005-03-10 Thread Anti-Fossil
Hakan, This was quite an interesting post. It is unfortunate that you have, a big problem with sentences about too many running around in the world. however, as long as it is still acceptable for me to choose my own sentences, I would prefer to do so, regardless of your problems. If my

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread Anti-Fossil
thanks for the link, cool simulator! AntiFossil Mike Krafka USA A sign seen recently in a non-smoking area: If we see smoke, we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. Why do people pay to go up tall buildings and then put money in binoculars to look at things on the

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Younker
Hi John, I'm drawing a blank wherever I look, what is a patical dish, please? The valves in engines designed with durability in mind already rotate, but I wouldn't know if they would have the force required to rotate this valve you mention. Thanks... Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Younker
Far out. A time saver for those who can make practical use of it, but a time waster for those of us who will use it to see what if, with no plan in mind. Any it's bookmarked here, thanks for the effort and sharing. Doug - Original Message - From: info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Process debugging help required

2005-03-10 Thread Don Goodeve
I have just started working with making BioDiesel and want to refine my process - there seem to be some bugs to work out. First batch in a used blender from a local thrift store; scary as the blender started to leak everywhere at the Sodium Methoxide stage (tested it with water first; no

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread Appal Energy
CHICKENs' eggs :-)) She's ovo-vegetarian. Lacto-ovo if she also consumes milk. Not vegetarian at all if she eats fish. Kind of a contradictary identifiers altogether though. One would think that vegetarian is pretty straight forward. Guess not. Vegan is no animal products whatsoever,

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator Just as a time saver in trying out new ideas, collecting circuit data, scope shots, it does the job quite well with no fuss and its

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread Guag Meister
Hi All ; AND it doesn't take up any of my demising hard drive space FireFox reported that it needed the Java Runtime Environemnt. That's about 150 MEGA bytes. Are you sure about no hard disk space? Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand __ Do

Re: [Biofuel] W/SVO stove

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
I am in Sri Lanka on an extended holliday and have observed a plentiful supply of cheap(below $10.00) Kerosene stoves/cookers,both pressurized and non-pressurized. I would like to find information on the possibility of using these stoves with W/SVO. Regards Kaydee. The pressurised kero

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel, rust and gunk

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
This oft stated fact begs a question: Any aspiring mechanics using B100 as a parts cleaner? How fast does B100 work its magic? It does work magic - it's better than kerosene for that, IMO. Better than gasolene? Dunno, I haven't used gasolene for that in ages. How fast? Dunno that either,

Re: [Biofuel] Neophyte seeks advice on runing 1983 Mercedes 300SD on BD

2005-03-10 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Thomas. Congratulations to a good car choice. You may have filter clogging problems in the beginning of BD use. Therefore I recommend you to move the feed pump strainer (it is a strainer, not a filter) upwards so it can be easily reached from above for swift and simple exchange. this is

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way

2005-03-10 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hi John. In order to separate water from WVO by using a centrifuge, the most efficient way is to heat the water/WVO mix to 75-90oC and run it as a round circuit until the water content drops to a sufficiently low level. Best rgrds Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way?

2005-03-10 Thread Jan Warnqvist
It is not recommendable with water together with SVO, WVO or BD for that matter. The oils consist from esters which are sensible to hydrolysis. This means that parts of the oil will crack by the influence of water. A water content too high will cause: 1) Severe filter clogging problems since many

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-10 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Keith. The site is in Norwegian and English. Anti-oxidants are used as a reinsurance, since the temperatures of the car fuel tanks can rise to high levels. Anti-oxidants. Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: Keith

Re: [Biofuel] Re: JD2005

2005-03-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Isn't it wonderful with the freedom of raising your opinion and if you think that I in anyway want to take it away from you, it must be a misunderstanding. It is my understanding also, that any posts on a public forum is addressed to the whole forum for evaluation and responses, not for

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way

2005-03-10 Thread Gmail - GaitedRidge
When you say : /heat the water/WVO mix to 75-90oC and run it as a round circuit until the water content drops to a sufficiently low level./ From the above statement I envision a closed system like a hot water tank type heater with an attached pump slowly circulating the WVO. What flow

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Not everyone can stay healthy on a vegan diet. Many of us get very sick when we cut out all meat. Just eating dairy and eggs is not enough. Besides, I do need the manure from my animals to fix my burnt out land. If you read through the small farms section of JTF, you will find all kinds

Re: [Biofuel] Process debugging help required

2005-03-10 Thread Chris
you noted in your description and all should go well. A tropical fish store will have test strips that work in a narrow range that includes 8.5, or a garden store has a ph meter tor quite cheap. Good luck from another beginner! Chris Kueny Cayce, SC 2) Source WVO probably had water in it

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread bob allen
snip I know I read a study, I can't remember where that vegetarians have shorter life spans, on average. It must not have been this one: :) After adjusting for smoking, body mass index, and social class, death rates were lower in non-meat-eaters than in meat eaters for each of the

Re: [Biofuel] off topic ; Annan: Hizb Allah must be factored in

2005-03-10 Thread fox mulder
Annan: Hizb Allah must be factored in The UN must recognise Hizb Allah as an important factor in implementing the resolution calling for Syria's full withdrawal from Lebanon and the disarmament of the country's militias, Secretary-General Kofi Annan has said. The UN chief was responding to a

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Keith. The site is in Norwegian and English. That's www.scanbio.org? But not the subsidiary ESTRA AS site you referred to, and I didn't see anything on methyl esters made with high IV oils, or at least not in English. Do you have a direct url please? Anti-oxidants are used as a

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way?

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
It is not recommendable with water together with SVO, WVO or BD for that matter. The oils consist from esters which are sensible to hydrolysis. This means that parts of the oil will crack by the influence of water. A water content too high will cause: 1) Severe filter clogging problems since

Re: [Biofuel] What is factory farming?

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
I have been thinking about the problems with factory farms vs sustainable farms. I appears, to me at least, that the debate has an erroneous assumption; that all large farms are factory and that most small farms are sustainable. This is totally false. I have seen some small 5 to 7 acre

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
Not everyone can stay healthy on a vegan diet. Many of us get very sick when we cut out all meat. Just eating dairy and eggs is not enough. Besides, I do need the manure from my animals to fix my burnt out land. If you read through the small farms section of JTF, you will find all kinds

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hi, Relax...nothing was personal... you brought up some valid stuff, and basically everyone is agreeing with you...but, also trying to point out some additional nuances to all this. One of my beefs, has been all the waste associated with herd culls in the UK and elsewhere to halt the

Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People

2005-03-10 Thread Joanne Olafson
check this website: www.ishmael.com - the website was started when the book was published. And yes, I also have very high regard for the book Ishmael. I totally agree with Marylynn: and you are interested in this subject...then reading this is a must. Regards, Joanne - Original Message

Re: [Biofuel] Haken Falk and Anti-fossil

2005-03-10 Thread Hakan Falk
JD2005, Sorry if I came on too hard, because I do understand what you mean. That is that it is too many born to this world, not that it is too many running around. Birth control and family planning is very different, from saying that some of us are too many. I do think that it is very important

[Biofuel] Is Methane Production in Urban conditions possible?

2005-03-10 Thread bioteo
Does anyone produce methane in urban conditions? Can i produce enough methane to run my car? How large a processor would i need and what could i feed it with? Old newspapers and food scraps and grass once in a while from the appartments garden... For the car im thinking of large tank that i

Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People

2005-03-10 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
through time. No, Ishmael has nothing to do with any revenge. .. what it did for me was take just about everything I thought I knew and turn it upside down. I've seen it in my local library so it shouldn't be difficult to find .. very easy read and a lot to digest. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn

[Biofuel] Haken Falk and Anti-fossil

2005-03-10 Thread JD2005
May I start by saying I do not wish to have a fallacious exchange with anybody. I maintain, there are too many people.If, because I believe that, that makes me a bad person, well, I will just have to burden that.Yet; ' no see ', it's not the likes of me who are going around killing

Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People

2005-03-10 Thread JD2005
From: Marylynn Schmidt For those of you that have not had the opportunity to read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. Is this the one about mother earth getting her revenge.I can't think of the name they use for mother earth

Re: [Biofuel] Re: the several Billion dead one

2005-03-10 Thread JD2005
Stop, Rewind; I seem to have hit a major nerve ganglion which has triggered a very mixed but passionate response from everybody.I should clarify what I believe. I believe that had we utilised renewables and lived a less urbane (hope this is what I mean, squalid town/city based existence) but

Re: [Biofuel] circuit simulator

2005-03-10 Thread info
tallex wrote, most computers have the java runtime environment installed at least. If you don't have java installed on your computer, you are missing out on significant content on the net. The install space is insignificant on any windows platform running at least 600. The simulator runs

[Biofuel] Re: Biodiesel wash water

2005-03-10 Thread Appal Energy
The following is in response to an off-list inquiry on how to determine when waste wash water has been sufficiently treated to remove soaps prior to release. It's posted here for anyone's benefit. Todd Swearingen ... Ahab, For the initial immediacy, I

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread John Hayes
Kim Garth Travis wrote: snip I know I read a study, I can't remember where that vegetarians have shorter life spans, on average. It must not have been this one: :) After adjusting for smoking, body mass index, and social class, death rates were lower in non-meat-eaters than in