Thanks, Steve...
...and I will beat Terry to the keyboard, and say that RVO is Recovered
Vegetable Oil, I think? We make waste a passe term...turning it into a
resource, like many other things once thought of as wastes that are now
resource foundation of new industries.
The list of terms and
All food for thought
About what ought...
But is not.
Ed
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] a question.
Straight Renewable Oil = SRO
Why I use the term:
- it is
Coffee oil, 386kg/ha (Tickell), greater than hemp or soy...
Mexico, one of the region's coffee powerhouses, has yet to begin official
testing but researchers say local farmers are already selling their
discarded beans to industries as a cheap source of fuel, said Salvador
Dias
Install a 2-tank Straight Renewable Oil (SRO) system. Then you have less
biodiesel to make and lots of flexibility in winter. You can run
biodiesel/SRO blend in winter in your SRO tank to thin it and compensate for
less heat from engine. You can then start up and shut down on winter diesel
in
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It combusts spontaneously due to the high compression of the diesel engine,
the same way that diesel fuel does. Nothing happens in the tank.
Ed B.
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:12 PM
Whatever happened to Alek Kac's determination that 6 or 6.25 was just about
right and as close as it gets...and no titration? Sure saves a lot of bother
with unreliable pH readings...
Ed B.
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One of the largest in the world. How many tanker loads do we wish to order
today, sir?
:-)
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How many are aware of the on and offshore wind farms already built or in
various stages? Massive turbines!!
See http://www.windpower.dk
for example...
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:36 AM
Steve, what are you guys doing for filtering prior to tank and then as
on-board filtering? If I missed this in an earlier post, my apologies.
Ed B.
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From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:27 PM
True...but not in the backyard shed. That's what I was getting at.
Ed B.
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From: David Preskett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Government protections
Yes. Germans do it (as well as from
the earth from our ancestors,
we borrow it from our children.
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No.
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From: Ed Beggs
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: FW: Mercedes Goes East
Subject: Mercedes Goes East
Well, folks, I will be off tomorrow morning on a 2500 mile trip on straight
veg. oil. The system took
Link: http://www.bioxcorp.com/
I spoke with Mr. Haig a while ago. They are/will be talking to the larger
rendering operations, since they can use animal fats. The process uses a
cosolvent (MTBE or other) to speed reaction time. The batch time was reduced
dramatically with this method.
Further
Snip
My second question to the group and to the experts; has anybody solved
the pour point and clouding point of biodiesel without compromising the
emmissions issue. This is very important for the colder climate markets.
End Snip
Still being addressed but there are some additives available
Dear christopher S Weiler -
Not sure which it is you wish to buy in the US. In any case...
The Yanmar is, even though it's made in Japan. The Dymaxion was shunned by
an uncomprehending public. The electric hub motors come from Canada (or at
least one brand will, if they make it past RD stage).
A UP resident, eh?
I could have waved to you from the Mackinac bridge as I drove over it last
week, on my way from BC to Ontario in 77 300D on straight (heated) veg oil.
Results: Left BC with 80 litres of microfiltered used veg oil in main tank
and 25 litres of diesel in aux. tank (in
combustion studies in their
research reports database.
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:12 AM
Subject: Biodiesel article last issue
June 2001 issues report on biodiesel by Bill Siuru mentions
rapeseed
Maybe, but if not soaps, tallow ester, etc and all else seems to be fine,
but still cloudy, it could be simple turbidity. Apparently this can be
corrected as follows
2. Turbidity. Occasionally a batch of washed ester may end up with
turbidity caused by traces of condensed moisture. This
Must be difficult for the football players, having to dodge all those giant
carrot tops and rabbits.
Does it work for algae?
Ed B.
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Put
http://www.nf-2000.org
Agro-Industrial Research
CD-ROM and searchable database
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
Specifically, I was looking at this one (what to do with all your glycerol
and biodiesel, wood waste, etc.)
http://www.nf-2000.org/secure/Air/S1126.htm
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Jerry - See question at end please...
Automobile conversion to solar power comes in more forms than just EV, and
in the SVO case, the plant oils act as an energy-dense, convenient, safe,
renewable, biodegradable, CO2-neutral solar energy capture / carrier that
can be packed into a very
Paul and all -
We have been trying a plastic, hand-operated drum pump the last couple of
weeks that works well for two things:
- it easily pumps viscous vegetable oil
- it comes with an attachment and measuring bottle that allows the bottle
to be fastened directly to the pump via a twist
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...they've also tested biodiesel in their reformer.
Ed B.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Environmental impact of ethanol fuels debate
according to
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=11709
If it smells disgusting and worse than petrodiesel...it's maybe old
stuff..in which case, it might have been collected as WVO and shipped off
somewhere or t'other...maybe better to use it (as fuel) locally?
Ed B.
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...to get back to, ahem, biofuels... and to address safety, let's consider
the high flash point and energy content of biodiesel or SVO.
There is no other fuel that offers the same combination of energy density,
convenience, and safety. Whether you run just a diesel, whether you use it
to reduce
Have we a response for this problem ??. For sure, it«s the question of
the
future of biofuels
Aye. I agree with Pedro. The money will go to the most effective lobbying ,
more dedicated to nuclear means less for renewables research. Nuclear has
had its chance, and share of the public treasury
They plan to sell photovoltaics to an identified 1 billion customers who
currently do not have electricity, want it, and currently pay for kerosene
or diesel at the same monthly price Shell Renewables will charge them for a
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Hi Todd:
Yes, well, come on indeed. I will fight the urge to enter into a
discussion of how much choice we all have about using computers, flying,
(externalized costs, economic and labour force demands) etc. and just say
that, if you recall, I was the first to respond to Pedro's post and point
That's right. It is Ok to use certain vegetable oil products and veg
oil/biodiesel blends for the two stroke lube, to replace the oil, and the
lubricity is going to be better in that case. However, biodiesel as fuel is
not a replacement for gasoline.
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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Any updates on costs from the earlier lipase threads? Are these getting
cheaper over time and are they about to get a lot cheaper with greater use
in industry?
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July
You must unsub using the same email as the one used when you signed up,
right?
Otherwise you'd get a report like that fellow did. Maybe a notice added
would help...using the exact SAME email address, spelled correctly, that
you used when you subscribed
(since some of us have several and people
The Cummins in the Dodge is a direct injection engine and therefore may not
a good candidate for SVO.
I say may not, because I don't think that anyone has yet demonstrated one
way or the other that the technique of using only 70 deg. C+ SVO, and
probably a biodiesel startup and shutdown fuel
Hanns: you presented a great reminder for me that we really need to focus on
getting the point across to consumers that we do not pay the real price of
oil...
You said:
So the industry is subsidised. What would we rather do? Spend the tax
dollar
on something that is good for the
...$16 over and above the market price... or higherdepends on which
study you use. There are plenty of them and they vary, depending on
methodology and contingent valuation placed on the services the
environment provides. Where is the $16 number from?
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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Yah, my current ride is an 84 four door Jetta, gets 55 mpg, carries 4, has a
turbo AND an automatic AND the automatic shifts in and out of neutral when
it senses a slight downslope and coasts. I like that. (works pretty good on
SVO too, BTW, and does not need a 20 minute warm-up time...more like
Claas:
The workshop showed that for many lignocellulosic energy crops the
technical development of the harvesting equipment is at a very advanced
state, not least due to the work done by CLAAS.
http://www.ieabioenergy.com/ben/volume9/no1/ben971b.htm
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From: Edward
Or go diesel, there's always the 3 cylinder Kubota transplant, as done in
the Spitfire drive train (so might work in the B) years ago in a 100 mpg
car article (as I recall). Does anyone remember that article or have a copy
of it?
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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From: John
) It was quite good at separating water from crude oil even
when
cold but it did tend to clog up with sand. Something like this would work
good in Bio-fuel and was quite simple.
Ed Service
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From: Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent
We've been using a new drum pump lately and very happy with it. Manual
operation, very lightweight and simple, 2 year warranty and lifetime free
replacement seals. I posted a picture on the products section, there are
actually two sizes.
These pumps work great for pumping many fluids and really
The biofuels.ca site is having problems at the hosts server (along with
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Thanks!
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Two cents worth...
Canola and additive packages can make a good 2 stroke oil. I do not know
about biodiesel, have never tried it. Much higher proportion than normal
oil, I would think - I would try very rich mixture compared to normal for a
two-stroke (like B20, maybe even B50, and try it on an
Good start, but a few hours does not prove anything. Run it a few hundred
and if it is still going, tear apart and have it checked for wear.
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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From: Martin R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM
Who is CRC?
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From: jerry dycus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Diesel emission passing fuel was, BD 2 stroke oil update
Hi Keith and All,
CRC is selling gallons of diesel
OT, but it would be fun to run alcohol/biodiesel blend in one of those old
2-stroke Saabs...bet they'd really fly and win best smelling Saab in a
rally! Anybody own one?
;-)
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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Tom, what were the specific problems encountered?
Ed B.
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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: [biofuel] bio diesel in lanterns
I have tried biodiesel in a wick type
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Dana, Keith, and all:
This is not an either/or proposition, in other words, we do not have to go
to the poles of industrial farming as currently practiced OR outright
labour intensive organic and/or subsistence farming. Make a recipe that
works for where you are and the type of operation you
But algae need light, and the design of large-scale photobioreactors is not
easy, nor cheap.
Other avenues (oilseeds) are more useful at present, but who knows, there
may be someone in the group that will have a brainstorm on how to reduce
cost of production of algae, and we can change the
Robert - I have a 1983 TDT wagon. I sold my 77 300D to my father. So with
these two in the family, and both running on SVO (and biodiesel for start up
and shutdown in my case), and blends of biodiesel/diesel, etc. I can tell
you the following:
Yes, avoid the ones after 1985. In fact, try to get
Yes.
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From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Mercedes 300D - 1985
I have the option of getting a Mercedes 300D for $500
Model year 1985
No rust
runs good
Is this a
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Trading in Ballard Power shares was halted late Monday on the TSE, as
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Nice, for the RV crowd, but silent power for RV's is already available in
the form of PV panels, so is this application going to go anywhere if it
costs more than those? Anyway, outfitting an RV with a fuel cell will
accomplish nothing in terms of air quality, which is why we're all supposed
to
Did they sell early Hyundai's where you live?
;-)
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From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] 'Old smokey was More Ballard (fuel cell)
I seen one this year. Its been a few years since
Hmm, air and oil cooled, lots of power, diesel...
Will it bolt up to a VW bus?
I mean, if one has the $20,000 or whatever the thing costs...
Seriously, looks like a really nice engine.
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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To: biofuel
No, other way around - solar panels are glorified versions of plants.
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:15 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Green Algae Producing Hydrogen : The 2nd Law of
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Yes, it is true
Burn waste vegetable oil, or tallow biodiesel, blended in with the heavy oil
perhaps.
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 3:53 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Power station particulate emissions
No, other way around - solar panels are glorified versions of plants.
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No, no, solar panels are inefficient, poor imitations of plants. :-) Joe
---
Joe -
Panels are Glorified, nonetheless, (see below)...I'll stick with my
version...even though I agree with yours as well...
www.biodiesel.org (US biodiesel board)
...has articles on their home page now, on the need for standards, and
suggesting that the small (as in backyard) producer is not likely to be
making good biodiesel.
EB
www.biofuels.ca
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Better for many reasons, including at good number of life-cycle analyses. I
just wish someone would tell Volvo this! SVO is better on the LCA's, but
petrodiesel??? That's one LCA I really must read.
;-)
Ed B.
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to trade them in a
another year or two, then put on a two-tank system and get going. If
you plan to run them a long time and a lot of kilometers on vegoil,
maybe look at going further an investigate the idea of blending as well.
Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003
Virtually any oil seed crop can be used to make Biodiesel, including
olive, soya, safflower, sunflower, canola, coconut, and palm oil. The
list is endless. If it burns you can probably make biodiesel from it.
Animal fats or tallow from slaughterhouses can be transformed into
biodiesel and
Some I talk to tell me that with the 4 speed, they are not that bad.
Some also had 5 speeds I think. There were even turbos made in Germany.
But the 240 Automatic, now that's a dog. Pump up the tires and turn up
the pump!
;-)
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