[Talk-transit] Tools for viewing and dealing with the NaPTAN data...

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Miller
I now have lots of great bus stop data in Suffolk and I want to check it and sort out any issues. However I am getting a bit lost re which tools are available to help check and improve the NaPTAN data and NPTG data in OSM. Could someone add brief description and links to the wiki? They

Re: [Talk-transit] Weird stations in the UK (as shown on Google maps)

2009-08-20 Thread Frankie Roberto
Hi Peter, Nice work! Just goes to show some of the advantages of OSM - we can fix the data relatively quickly. Incidentally, according to Wikipedia Bank and Monument tube stations are treated operationally as one complex (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_and_Monument_stations), however on

Re: [Talk-transit] Weird stations in the UK (as shown on Google maps)

2009-08-20 Thread Ed Loach
Peter wrote: Finally, there is a mainline station shown for Newbury Park as well as an underground station on Google and in NaPTAN[6] even though it appears to be on the Central line with no connection to mainline services and the station doesn't appear in a station search on the

Re: [Talk-transit] Weird stations in the UK (as shown on Google maps)

2009-08-20 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote: There are four station in the King's Cross/ St Pancras on Google[5]. Two for St Pancras station, one for King's Cross Station and then one for King's Cross/St Pancras. NaPTAN does have two stations for St Pancras

Re: [Talk-transit] Weird stations in the UK (as shown on Google maps)

2009-08-20 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
Various comments on these: 1. Reading. If Heathrow Rail-air is shown, shouldn't the Reading end be shown? 2. St. Pancras is indeed two stations. Midland Main Line services depart from platforms at the far-end of the main train shed, has separate ticketing etc.. The 'interchange' between this

[Talk-si] Dovoljenje za uvoz meje

2009-08-20 Thread Ales rom
Pozdrav. Kar nekaj pogovorov in prepričevanja je bilo potrebnega, da so nam izdali pisno dovoljenje. Sedaj je tu :-) Ga. Kristina Perko iz GURS je napisala: Spoštovani, Geodetska uprava RS dovoljuje uporabo in objavo podatkov Državne meje, ki je objavljena na spletni strani:

Re: [Talk-si] Dovoljenje za uvoz meje

2009-08-20 Thread Stefan Baebler
Pri toliko dokumenti, kolikor jih imajo objavljenih, lahko res vsak najde sebi najbolj ustreznega :) Na strani s podatki http://www.gu.gov.si/si/delovnapodrocja_gu/podatki_gu/brezplani_podatki/ so izpostavljeni le pogoji, nam ugodnejši cenik pa je precej bolj skrit. Zagovorniki odprte kode bi se

[OSM-legal-talk] Mapmaker Data for Africa Released

2009-08-20 Thread Alexander Menk
Hi! According to [1], G**gle released the dataset for Africa on [2]. They say, non-profit organizations can use it. Does that include OSM? Alex [1] http://google-africa.blogspot.com/ [2] https://services.google.com/fb/forms/mapmakerdatadownload/

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Mapmaker Data for Africa Released

2009-08-20 Thread Ulf Möller
Alexander Menk schrieb: According to [1], G**gle released the dataset for Africa on [2]. They say, non-profit organizations can use it. Does that include OSM? See https://services.google.com/fb/forms/mapmakerdatadownload/ Please don't use the Map Maker Source Data if: [...] (c) you want to

[OSM-legal-talk] Software using open street map data and Licensing model / restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Alex
Hi, I am developing a Location based application that will both be available on mobile devices and on the internet. I plan to use OSM data, convert it and import it into my custom designed database. I also plan to generate my own tiles based on OSM data, certainly aggregated with other

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Software using open street map data and Licensing model / restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Alex wrote: My mobile client will download the tiles that I will have generated and display them with Point of Interest information that will be coming from OSM, commercial data, and user generated content / POIs . What I want to know is if my application itself and my website (that

[OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-20 Thread Alexander Klink
Hi everyone, This weekend, I hacked together a quick twitter bot, which now tweets all changesets in a certain are (in my case, Darmstadt, Germany) - see http://twitter.com/osm_darmstadt I've found it quite useful thus far, on the one hand I write better changeset comments, because I know they

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread James Livingston
On 20/08/2009, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote: If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of shops) this represents several businesses together. If I then put nodes on them and give the nodes names Mapnik won't render the names unless they are amenities. But not all

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Tobias Knerr
Roy Wallace wrote: But I agree with Tobias also - we should first create a good concept for modelling the lanes themselves. Tobias, could you link to the latest/most promising proposal, if there is one? If we already had a superior proposal, this would be a lot easier. What we have so far is:

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Harris
UK - usually black on white. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Erik Johansson [mailto:e...@kth.se] Sent: 19 August 2009 12:26 To: Tijs Zwinkels Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Tijs

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Harris
Nop A very good way of trying to draw some of the thoughts together - although a very challenging project! Full marks for the effort anyway! I have added a few extra bits and pieces to the wiki page to highlight some more existing tags and practices that probably need to be brought into a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] Mijn icoontjes?

2009-08-20 Thread Ben Laenen
filip wolters wrote: Neen, ik begrijp het niet meer. In onderstaande link zie je dat voor bv. een cinema alleen een node kan gebruikt worden. En een plaats om een auto te huren kunnen zowel met node als area gemaakt worden. Waar zit de logica en waar vind ik een plaats waar alles goed

Re: [OSM-talk] Historic Mapping needs help Now!

2009-08-20 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks Roy, I'll look into that. There seems to be plenty of interest so hopefully we'll be able to flesh out something to be approved by the wider community. Cheers, Joseph 2009/8/19 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Joseph Reevesiknowjos...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] Mijn icoontjes?

2009-08-20 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Thursday 20 August 2009 12:28:07 pm Ben Laenen wrote: Ach, dat is inderdaad niet erg consequent gedocumenteerd, maar wat die map features pagina ook zegt, voor alles van shop/amenity/sport/nog_een_paar dat je op een node kan zetten, kan je ook op een polygoon zetten, al dan niet samen met

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Norbäck
From: Erik Johansson [mailto:e...@kth.se] Sent: 19 August 2009 12:26 To: Tijs Zwinkels Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder Since this version can't be trained to handle white background signs, I wonder what color are streetname signs around the world?

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] Mijn icoontjes?

2009-08-20 Thread Ben Laenen
Vincent MEURISSE wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2009 12:28:07 pm Ben Laenen wrote: Ach, dat is inderdaad niet erg consequent gedocumenteerd, maar wat die map features pagina ook zegt, voor alles van shop/amenity/sport/nog_een_paar dat je op een node kan zetten, kan je ook op een polygoon

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] Mijn icoontjes?

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Harris
Interesting discussion - I see the Dutch documentation has the same sort of limitations as the English! ... But shouldn't this be in the Dutch discussion group?! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Ben Laenen [mailto:benlae...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 August 2009 11:28 To: filip wolters;

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Chris Hill
James Livingston wrote: On 20/08/2009, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote: If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of shops) this represents several businesses together. If I then put nodes on them and give the nodes names Mapnik won't render the names unless

[OSM-talk] New Hi Vis Vests available

2009-08-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I'll be in London for the AGM and later for our Anniversary get-together. If anyone would like to purchase a new Hi-Viz OSM Surveyor vest please let me know so that I can bring down the right quantity and size range. They are available in Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large and the design is

Re: [OSM-talk] New Hi Vis Vests available

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 20/8/09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: If anyone would like to purchase a new Hi-Viz OSM Surveyor vest please let What do they look like? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] New Hi Vis Vests available

2009-08-20 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 20 de Agosto de 2009, John Smith escribió: --- On Thu, 20/8/09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: If anyone would like to purchase a new Hi-Viz OSM Surveyor vest please let What do they look like? IIRC, I talked to 80n and Andy about the hi-viz

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread David Earl
On 20/08/2009 04:03, Andrew Ayre wrote: Roy Wallace wrote: If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of shops) this represents several businesses together. If I then put nodes on them and give the nodes names Mapnik won't render the names unless they are amenities. But not all

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-20 Thread Nick Black
A quick reminder, there is a meeting scheduled for next Monday 24th to discuss the Local Chapters. There seems to be a lot of contention here about what the right way to move forward is. For example, many people feel excluded by calls they can't participate in. How about we take the approach

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos

2009-08-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 20 August 2009 1:31 PM To: osm Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos I'd like to be able to refer some people to the Surrey Heath DC presentation (James Rutter) talk at SOTM. Any chance it could be available any time soon? +1 Cheers Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 20/8/09, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: snip Did a mailing list get sorted out? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] New Hi Vis Vests available

2009-08-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:OSM_Hi_Vis_Back.jpg The front just has a very small version of same without the web address Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Iván Sánchez Ortega Sent: 20

[OSM-talk] Proposed features/wilderness mountain buildings

2009-08-20 Thread Dave G
I would be keen to hear any feedback on this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wilderness_mountain_buildings#Proposed_features.2FWilderness_hut cheers...dave ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] SOTM videos

2009-08-20 Thread David Earl
I'd like to be able to refer some people to the Surrey Heath DC presentation (James Rutter) talk at SOTM. Any chance it could be available any time soon? Thanks, David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Weather overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
Has anyone ever made an whether-overlay for openstreetmap using the Google [1] or the Yahoo API [2]? I think this would be possible with mapnik: * load a planet.osm into some kind of db (or process it in-place with a sax-parser) * find the regions with ZIP, PLZ or whatever * fetch the

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
Wmm why can't we say: 1L for the leftmost lane 2L for the second lane from left 1R for the rightmost lane where left and right is seen in driving-direction. So then the 2 rightmode lane seperates you can talk about 1R and 2R. Peter Yann Coupin schrieb: Plus what does inner mean on a oneway

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, 2009/8/20 Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com: Thanks. It's not tagging for the renderer, it's using the renderer to give me a hint that I might be doing things wrong. However, if business names don't appear on the online maps which most people will use, I'm not sure how good an investment

[OSM-talk] San Francisco on The Register

2009-08-20 Thread David Earl
Happened to notice this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/19/san_francisco_datasf_launch/ referring to: http://www.datasf.org/ There's a button to suggest other datasets/apps. Curious thing is, there don't seem to be any maps on the site itself, only data sets. (Maybe they had the same

Re: [OSM-talk] Weather overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Tom Chance
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:05:02 +0200, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Has anyone ever made an whether-overlay for openstreetmap using the Google [1] or the Yahoo API [2]? Probably not exactly what you're after, but you might find this interesting:

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Tobias Knerr
Proposal for tagging the general direction of a way as incline=up/down: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/incline_up_down ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-legal-talk] Summary of Meeting with OSMF Counsel ...

2009-08-20 Thread zerebubuth
I've shared a document with you: Summary of Meeting with OSMF Counsel ... http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZPN91k8AaLAZGM5NW14cHNfMWNoeGc4Y2hrhl=eninvite=CJ-c5YkG It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this document, just click the link above. hi LWG 80n,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Summary of Meeting with OSMF Counsel ...

2009-08-20 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:11 PM, zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: I've shared a document with you: Summary of Meeting with OSMF Counsel ... http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZPN91k8AaLAZGM5NW14cHNfMWNoeGc4Y2hrhl=eninvite=CJ-c5YkG It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
The building tag could be a multiple value tag like building, so: business=yes or business=printer or business=pr_consultant or business=logistics or business=medical_devices or ... If it's a building use building=yes if it's a business-building use building=business if you know

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Dermot McNally
2009/8/20 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com: IN such circumstances I use building=... or landuse=retail to outline the combined structure or area, and then use landuse=retail NODES within them to label each unit (I don't do it for everything, usually just the larger ones, but that's me

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
IN such circumstances I use building=... or landuse=retail to outline the combined structure or area, and then use landuse=retail NODES within them to label each unit How can a node be of any landuse - it's no land, just a 0-dimensional point.. Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread David Earl
On 20/08/2009 15:27, Peter Körner wrote: IN such circumstances I use building=... or landuse=retail to outline the combined structure or area, and then use landuse=retail NODES within them to label each unit How can a node be of any landuse - it's no land, just a 0-dimensional point..

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread David Earl
On 20/08/2009 15:30, David Earl wrote: On 20/08/2009 15:27, Peter Körner wrote: IN such circumstances I use building=... or landuse=retail to outline the combined structure or area, and then use landuse=retail NODES within them to label each unit How can a node be of any landuse - it's no

Re: [OSM-talk] Weather overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Rob
maybe you could skip the complete db and make a dynamic kml layer (by using a php file that outputs xml) in openlayers Rob 2009/8/20 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de Has anyone ever made an whether-overlay for openstreetmap using the Google [1] or the Yahoo API [2]? I think this would be

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-20 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
Mike Harris wrote: UK - usually black on white. Denmark - New signs White on Blue. Old signs red on white. At least in these parts. I don't know if there's regulation in the area. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Weather overlay

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, Rob r...@coolbegin.com wrote: maybe you could skip the complete db and make a dynamic kml layer (by using a php file that outputs xml) in openlayers Any suggestions on exporting admin boundaries from a database to kml format?

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/20 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Proposal for tagging the general direction of a way as incline=up/down: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/incline_up_down I personally use the direction of way for steps in the (architectural) standard way that the way point

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-20 Thread Łukasz Jernaś
Poland, Greater Poland : White on blue and black on white. It can be different even in the same city... Regards, -- Łukasz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/20 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Wmm why can't we say: 1L for the leftmost lane 2L for the second lane from left 1R for the rightmost lane where left and right is seen in driving-direction. So then the 2 rightmode lane seperates you can talk about 1R and 2R. I'm opposing

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos

2009-08-20 Thread Mikel Maron
+1 that presentation was amazing, and could have a huge impact on OSM use in government. From: David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com To: osm talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:30:41 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos I'd like to be able

Re: [OSM-talk] Weather overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
Any suggestions on exporting admin boundaries from a database to kml format? If you have some kind of database anyway (e.g. postgis for mapnik-rendering on cassini, it shouldn't be the problem. You may also try query2map [1]. If none of this works for you, you may consider processing a

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Dermot McNally
2009/8/20 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com: Oh, and one more thing: consider place=locality, a very useful tag. Clearly such nodes refer to areas, often large and substantial areas, yet to represent them as areas might often be very difficult as, depending on the nature of the feature,

[OSM-talk] Fwd: my JOSM 1981 + wmsplugin does not work :(

2009-08-20 Thread PB
Hi, I recently upgraded my JOSM on Mac OS X to version 1981 and the wmsplugin does not work any more. I have not changed nothing in my previous WMS configuration and I only get red tiles=exceptions now. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions (new branch)

2009-08-20 Thread Hillsman, Edward
On 20/08/2009 04:53, David Earl wrote: On 20/08/2009 04:03, Andrew Ayre wrote: Roy Wallace wrote: If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of shops) this represents several businesses together. If I then put nodes on them and give the nodes names Mapnik won't render the names

[OSM-talk] Moving Map Application for eeebuntu

2009-08-20 Thread Marc Coevoet
Hi, I 've a GPS USB dongle from Gisteq, and it works ok with roadnav.sf.net (this app is for navigation in US - you need to give a US state as part of destination ...), http://users.fulladsl.be/~spb13810/research/gisteqLivingRoadnav.png (10 sats in my living room..) I'm looking for a moving

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos

2009-08-20 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: David Earl wrote: Any chance it could be available any time soon? +1 +1 This would als help the people who have not been able to join, to get more information what was going on there. This would provide more transparency about OSM and the

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions (new branch)

2009-08-20 Thread Mike N.
-- Since this has been so helpful, I'd like to ask for advice on another question. In an urban/suburban setting (Tampa, Florida, US), where sidewalks are discontinuous (some blocks have them on both sides, some blocks only on one, some on

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/20 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Wmm why can't we say: 1L for the leftmost lane 2L for the second lane from left 1R for the rightmost lane where left and right is seen in driving-direction. So then the 2 rightmode

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: my JOSM 1981 + wmsplugin does not work :(

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
Hi PB, you're wrong here. Go to josm ticket-system [1] and search for a ticket. If you're unable to find one, describing your problem, ask at the josm-dev list [2] or, if you're really sure that this is a bug (all components up2date and still happening), open a new ticket at [1]. Good luck!

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: my JOSM 1981 + wmsplugin does not work :(

2009-08-20 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
There was a major change. you need to upgrade the plugin and the settings for yahoo. these are my current settings and they work on Mac OS wmsplugin.default.html:http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wmsplugin/ YahooDirect.html?=true wmsplugin.default.http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos

2009-08-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
I've forwarded the request for this video to my colleague who is taking care of the conversion and uploading. martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Michael Kugelmannmichaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Andy Robinson

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/20 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: how could you do this practically? aligning 18 lanes as individual ways is impossible in the current data model and editors. Why? It's very possible: just do it. Btw: I's not 18 lanes, but

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM videos

2009-08-20 Thread David Earl
On 20/08/2009 19:22, Martijn van Exel wrote: I've forwarded the request for this video to my colleague who is taking care of the conversion and uploading. Matt Williams pointed out to me that it actually *is* there, but it wasn't obvious because it's got the wrong title at the start - it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
then we are closer as I thought. still mapping multiple parallel lanes with multiple lines is too difficult. consider a bestcase accuracy of +/- 2-3m with handheld gps and current areal pics. this is the size of a typical car lane. aligning many smaller structures is just magic guessing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: my JOSM 1981 + wmsplugin does not work :(

2009-08-20 Thread hanoj
other easy: Now all WMS address in WMSplugin ends with character ? or . html:http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wmsplugin/YahooDirect.html? http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?request=GetMaplayers=global_mosaicstyles=format=image/jpeg; ha hanoj 2009/8/20 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Tobias Knerr
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'm opposing this approach of just tagging different lanes to one way as this gets too complicated in complex situations (I know situations with more than 18 lanes). I'd prefer to get to a map-all-lanes-and-dividers-as-separate-ways-approach and then recombine them

[OSM-talk] wikipedia - english

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
I'm looking to implant some OSM maps into Wikipedia, but I need some examples of their wiki editing style so I don't get my edits rubbed out by the style police. Could people please advise me of wikipedia pages with OSM maps so I can view the style of the pages? Liz

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:30 AM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 20/08/2009 15:27, Peter Körner wrote: IN such circumstances I use building=... or landuse=retail to outline the combined structure or area, and then use landuse=retail NODES within them to label each unit How

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/20 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Proposal for tagging the general direction of a way as incline=up/down: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/incline_up_down I personally use the

Re: [OSM-talk] Lane turn restrictions

2009-08-20 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:48:18 +1000, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Tobias Knerro...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: I believe it fits the project's general spirit to allow mappers to choose their level of detail (and other mappers to increase it if they are

Re: [OSM-talk] wikipedia - english

2009-08-20 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Liz wrote: I'm looking to implant some OSM maps into Wikipedia, but I need some examples of their wiki editing style so I don't get my edits rubbed out by the style police. Could people please advise me of wikipedia pages with OSM maps so I can view the style of the pages? Liz, See:

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/20 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: I personally use the direction of way for steps ... What about a one-way way that points downhill? For this, incline=* is useful. It's also more explicit. for ways it is indeed a plus. I was referring just to steps. cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:54:23 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/20 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: I personally use the direction of way for steps ... What about a one-way way that points downhill? For this, incline=* is useful. It's also more explicit. for

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: incline should hold a numeric value, to indicate how steep it is, positive value is up, and negative is down, if steepness isn't trivial, leave it out. If you just want to render a steep road sign, why

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/21 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: incline should hold a numeric value, to indicate how steep it is, positive value is up, and negative is down, if steepness isn't trivial, leave it out. If

Re: [OSM-talk] wikipedia - english

2009-08-20 Thread Lars Aronsson
Liz wrote: I'm looking to implant some OSM maps into Wikipedia, but I need some examples You should upload your maps to Wikimedia Commons, from where they can be used in all languages of Wikipedia. Place the uploaded images (PNG or SVG) in the category

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Ayre
Alexander Klink wrote: Hi everyone, This weekend, I hacked together a quick twitter bot, which now tweets all changesets in a certain are (in my case, Darmstadt, Germany) - see http://twitter.com/osm_darmstadt I've found it quite useful thus far, on the one hand I write better changeset

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Google Summer of Code 2009 - signFinder.

2009-08-20 Thread Sebastiaan Lampo
Hoi, klinkt fantastisch. Als volgende projectje Zou dit ook met paaltjes voor bushaltes kunnen? Ik ben bezig om de bushaltes in Gent, Belgie in te voeren in OSM. Telkens in mijn dictafoon inspreken wat de haltenaam is blijft echter omslachtig. Als ik er een foto van kan nemen dan hebben we

[OSM-talk-nl] Tonen plaatsnamen op lagere zoom-levels

2009-08-20 Thread Frank Fesevur
Hallo, Het valt mij op dat er onverwachte plaatsnamen getoond worden als het zoomlevel lager wordt: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/?lon=4.44213lat=52.02897zoom=12 Bij Zoetermeer en Pijnacker staat geen plaatsnaam, maar voor Haagoord of Noukoop worden wel teksten geplaatst. Veel van deze kleine

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Google Summer of Code 2009 - signFinder.

2009-08-20 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sebastiaan Lampo schreef: Zou dit ook met paaltjes voor bushaltes kunnen? Jup. Maar dan komen we weer in het verkeersborden domein. En lezen vanaf bushalte paaltjes lijkt me niet ideaal. ik kan mijn foto's voorzien van GPS coordinaten, maar niet

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Tagging Vuelta wielerronde

2009-08-20 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Dag Henk, Is dat een eenmalig iets? Of wordt die route vaker gebruikt? Een eenmalig wielerronde lijkt me toch niet echt iets voor in de hoofd OSM database. Anders kan ik ook wel al m'n wandeltochten en hardlooprondjes gaan mappen. Groet, Floris Henk Hoff wrote: Ik ben bezig om de verschillende

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Tagging Vuelta wielerronde

2009-08-20 Thread Lambertus
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:03:01 +0200, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: Henk Hoff wrote: Ik ben bezig om de verschillende etappes van de Vuelta die in NL worden gereden volgend weekend, in een relatie weer te geven. Ik vraag me even af hoe ik deze het best kan taggen. Ik heb 'm nu als een

[talk-au] List of route=road relations

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
I did a quick SQL query to find what named route=road relations exist, in the interest of saving people from duplicating things: named routes: http://maps.bigtincan.com/tagwatch/road-relations.php ref routes: http://maps.bigtincan.com/tagwatch/ref-relations.php If a route has a ref and a name

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
I finally figured out that when it's type=route, osm2pgsql changes the field name to route_name so I've updated the database and configs to show route_name. In the example below, the ways are tagged with local street names, but the highway has no name or ref, but instead the highway name and

Re: [talk-au] Question about route numbers

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Mark Pulley wrote: 1. When should I start using Alphanumeric numbers? For an example, the Mid Western Highway between Bathurst and Cowra is currently NH24, but some signs have shown A41 (now coverplated over by NH24). Should I use the new A41 or the current NH24?

Re: [talk-au] OSMF

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 20/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: If you are a member, please vote, it will make life easier for us all if as many potential voters as possible vote or else we will hear for the next three years how the poll was 'fixed. This is one reason I've decided to take an active

[talk-au] Mapping on a phone

2009-08-20 Thread Franc Carter
Hi, My phone is on it's last legs and I'll need a new one soon. Does anybody have a phone that does a good job for mapping. It would be nice to add POIs as I notice them. I don't really need something for the full mapping experience as I have a full setup in the car for that cheers -- Franc

Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
Not sure if this is what others had in mind, but rather than just focus on cycling, I think a general council bugs reporting system would be useful to complain about other things like pot holes :) I've downloaded/used the OpenStreetBugs code to produce the Council Bug Report:

[talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
or wear one? http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6327.jpg http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6328.jpg ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread cam_daw
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 13:58 +, John Smith wrote: Not sure if this is what others had in mind, but rather than just focus on cycling, I think a general council bugs reporting system would be useful to complain about other things like pot holes :) I've downloaded/used the OpenStreetBugs code

Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, cam_...@fastmail.fm cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote: Having a council bug reporting system could also spur other councils / residence to contribute to OSM as well. That's what I am hoping for :) Word of mouth is the best form of advertising, so if you know anyone else in any

[talk-au] 4wd_only=yes now renders

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18lat=-26.191806577279lon=152.62008508749 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=662

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
maps showing us trying to influence the world ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: or wear one? http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6327.jpg http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6328.jpg Definitely unfashionable. Lime green is more appealing I'm sure we would be better off organising our own and not getting theirs.

Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: I do own one - I got one the first time round.  I wear it when cycling at dusk/night - even when I'm not surveying. I've noticed that if I'm wearing that, I get ignored a lot more in some places, but attract more attention in

Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread BOUNDY,Paul
Hi Cam_Daw Thanks for the link to Open Street Bugs I'll add this into the mix of conversations I'm having elsewhere. Who hosts and develops this site? regards Paul Boundy Massbug Marrickville and South Sydney Bicycle User Group The other type of Bug -Original Message- From:

Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread cam_daw
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:36 +, John Smith wrote: or wear one? http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6327.jpg http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6328.jpg I probably would wear something like that vest - during the day while cycling / walking. It'd atleast make some

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