Re: [Talk-hr] Kako koristiti OSM mapu na GPS-u

2009-11-02 Thread Ivan Putnik
Nažalost nisam uspjeo pronaci niti jednu osm kartu za TomTom, odnosno nijedna mapa nepaše hmm Htjeo bi da imam osm mapu na GPS-u jer mi je lakše ucrtavati , mogu vidjeti što fali na licu mjesta, uz to na OSM mapi imam ceste svoje okolice što na drugim komercijalnim mapama nemam... Ako

Re: [Talk-hr] Kako koristiti OSM mapu na GPS-u

2009-11-02 Thread nixa
Pogledaj ovdje, no izgleda da bas nisu neka sretna rijesenja. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tomtom#Using_OSM_maps_with_TomToms Ivan Putnik wrote: Nažalost nisam uspjeo pronaci niti jednu osm kartu za TomTom, odnosno nijedna mapa nepaše hmm Htjeo bi da imam osm mapu na GPS-u jer mi je

Re: [Talk-hr] gt-200

2009-11-02 Thread Željko Filipin
Probao sam instalirati nekoliko aplikacija i svaki put dobijem grešku: The installer has encountered an unexpected error (java.lang.NullPointerException). Kopao sam malo po internetu, čini se da moj mobilel ima nekih problema. Za sad odustajem, ako netko zna kako to riješiti, vrlo rado prihvaćam

Re: [Talk-hr] gt-200

2009-11-02 Thread Marjan Vrban
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:58:58 +0100, Željko Filipin wrote: Može li mi netko preporučiti desktop aplikaciju (Mac, Windows) koja mi može pokazati točnu lokaciju koristeći podatke s gps-a, po mogućnosti koristeći openstreetmap mapu? Uspio sam to dobiti u Google Earth, ali samo na Windowsima i samo

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2009-11-02 Thread Ed Avis
Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@... writes: [http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/] Can the manually located postboxes, based on OSM data and a list of postbox street locations from the Royal Mail, be added to OSM? Yes. I have started work on a tool to sync these (code at

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Extent of share alike?

2009-11-02 Thread Matt Amos
On 11/2/09, David Vaarwerk da...@mineraldata.com.au wrote: I have made a map and business guide from scratch that you can see here http://www.mineraldata.com.au/wp/index.html [1]. I would like to share the map data with OSM and use OSM as a base map for this and other maps/ business guides - I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Extent of share alike?

2009-11-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Matt Amos wrote: However, my question is, how far does the share alike section of the Creative Commons licence go. I want to share the map data with OSM but not the other sections of the work. this lack of clarity is one of the problems with the CC BY-SA license. the short answer

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren wrote: It's not the question about laws in France, Germany or US vs England. It's the question to know if OSM database can survive if it contains data from illegal sources, independently of the country. Richard is convinced that the content of the photos is not protected and I agree

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 02 November 2009 11:52 AM To: t...@openstreetmap.org Cc: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Illegal activity Pieren wrote: It's not the question about laws in France, Germany or US vs England. It's the question to know if OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm not particularly au fait with national copyright law in mainland Europe. Doubtless you can answer on France: I can't see anything in German law that would give protection. I have lost thread of what kind of protection exactly you are talking about, but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Extent of share alike?

2009-11-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Matt Amos wrote: does that mean that no-one can redistribute a screenshot of the application? Yes, that's my reading, unless you invoke some superior right to fair use or citation or whatever applicable in your country; which would of course make any copyright discussion obsolete. - I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Extent of share alike?

2009-11-02 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 2 de Noviembre de 2009, David Vaarwerk escribió: However, my question is, how far does the share alike section of the Creative Commons licence go. I want to share the map data with OSM but not the other sections of the work. Then you double-license the map data: one version goes OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Extent of share alike?

2009-11-02 Thread David Vaarwerk
Thanks for your all the responses, they do help. I think keeping the map and the business data separate with a double license is the best solution as suggested. So I will have a map with only OSM data, obviously anything I put in will become CC. I am happy to share the geographic location (lat.

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nop wrote: It has been suggested several times, that the possibility to do this indirectly be removed from JOSM altogether and having corrected many bad direct uploads I am rather in favour of this. Potlatch enables you to convert a GPS track to a way by clicking Edit beside the track

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Nop
Hi! Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Potlatch enables you to convert a GPS track to a way by clicking Edit beside the track (in the GPS Traces listing), then selecting Convert track to ways when Potlatch loads. There is no option _not_ to simplify the track on import; it runs Douglas-Peucker

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Harris
Why not (a) convert the GPX layer to a data layer and then (b) use the simplify way tool from the JOSM plugin? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 November 2009 06:57 To: Shalabh Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread SLXViper
John Smith wrote: 2009/11/2 Dan Homerick danhomer...@gmail.com: Once the GPX layer is converted to an OSM layer, you can run Simplify Way on it to reduce the number of points to a reasonable number and frequency. It's available via the Tools menu once you have installed the 'utilsplugin'

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nop wrote: It is good that simplification is forced. But of course, it will still stupidly add a large zig-zag caused by bad reception to the map. (I have seen beginners manually add such zig-zags before they learn that GPS isn't perfect, but at least they usually learn) How does it take

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:53 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/2 Anthony o...@inbox.org:  In France you can copyright a building and anyone who takes a picture of the building and uses it for commercial purposes without permission is committing copyright infringement.

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren wrote: It's not the question about laws in France, Germany or US vs England. It's the question to know if OSM database can survive if it contains data from illegal sources, independently of the country. Richard is convinced that the content of the photos is not protected and I agree

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an interval of n seconds. Unlike Potlatch JOSM is a powertool. It shouldn't force you to do anything. Recently I traced

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm not particularly au fait with national copyright law in mainland Europe. Doubtless you can answer on France: I can't see anything in German law that would give protection. I have lost thread of what kind of protection exactly you are talking about, but

[OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Bráulio Bezerra da Silva
With OSM data getting more and more quality, I guess it will be a logical move to Google (and others) to use it for its needs (for example in cities where they have NOTHING mapped). Though, I've never seen anyone discuss that. Thinking about this, some questions arise. Will it ever happen? Will

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an interval of n seconds. Unlike Potlatch JOSM is a powertool. It shouldn't force you

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Bráulio Bezerra da Silva
Hmm, an update: some GSoC OSM projects [1] were already accepted. [1] http://socghop.appspot.com/org/home/google/gsoc2009/openstreetmap 2009/11/2 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com With OSM data getting more and more quality, I guess it will be a logical move to Google (and

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Shalabh
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: I would have a bit more sympathy had I not, once again, spent a good while last night clearing up some ways, badly traced in JOSM with 45-degree angles all over the place. Had the mapper used a good GPX-simplified way

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Domingo, 1 de Noviembre de 2009, Anthony escribió: Yes, a collection of aerial images is a database. But a single aerial image is probably not. Heck, a single aerial image *is* a database of pixels :-D -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet.openstreetmap.org

2009-11-02 Thread Joseph Reeves
Working fine from the UK... 2009/11/2 Jeremy Adams mile...@king-nerd.com: Hello all, The site http://planet.openstreetmap.org seems to be down.  It's returning 403: Forbidden for about the last hour. Can someone have a look? -Jeremy ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet.openstreetmap.org

2009-11-02 Thread Jeremy Adams
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Working fine from the UK... 2009/11/2 Jeremy Adams mile...@king-nerd.com: Hello all, The site http://planet.openstreetmap.org seems to be down. It's returning 403: Forbidden for about the last hour. Can

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/2 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com: Ulf Lamping writes:   Russ Nelson schrieb:   Peteris Krisjanis writes:     Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo     without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are.     E, no.  The USGS Digital

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread David Earl
On 02/11/2009 13:11, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Domingo, 1 de Noviembre de 2009, Anthony escribió: Yes, a collection of aerial images is a database. But a single aerial image is probably not. Heck, a single aerial image *is* a database of pixels :-D By analogy then, so is this email a

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/1 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. Permission from whom, and in what form?  Supposedly the

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com You can do whatever you want, buy it or not. Again, OSM project's consensus is that you can trace Yahoo, but you can't from Google products. Because first one said yes, you can, and second said no. Several times. that's all true AFAIK besides

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 2 de Noviembre de 2009, David Earl escribió: Heck, a single aerial image *is* a database of pixels :-D By analogy then, so is this email a database of words and characters, but that's a perverse interpretation, not what most people would call a database, and certainly not for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/2 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/11/2 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com You can do whatever you want, buy it or not. Again, OSM project's consensus is that you can trace Yahoo, but you can't from Google products. Because first one said yes, you can, and second said

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net  wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an interval of n seconds. Unlike Potlatch JOSM is a powertool.

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com With OSM data getting more and more quality, I guess it will be a logical move to Google (and others) to use it for its needs (for example in cities where they have NOTHING mapped). Though, I've never seen anyone discuss that. on

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: 1-8 should be made easy, but I disagree with you that JOSM should force some simplification process. I've already cited an example where this did more harm than good. Sure - you're spot on there and I can't argue with any of that. Probably provide a strong

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Bráulio Bezerra da Silva wrote: Will it ever happen? Yes. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Celso González
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:59:10PM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I have nothing against good UI design which would make this sort of thing easy. Doing this in JOSM currently is much harder than it should be. What I usually do when I want to do this is: 1. Import the GPX track 2.

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet.openstreetmap.org

2009-11-02 Thread Grant Slater
2009/11/2 Jeremy Adams mile...@king-nerd.com: The site http://planet.openstreetmap.org seems to be down.  It's returning 403: Forbidden for about the last hour. Can someone have a look? Fixed. Thx for the report. We having hardware problems with that machine today so it might be up and

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Pieren writes: Richard is convinced that the content of the photos is not protected and I agree on that point. But he just decides to ignore all the investments spent to rectify and georeference these photos on which his derivative work is based. And this investment and work is

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2009/11/2 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com: Hmm, an update: some GSoC OSM projects [1] were already accepted. [1] http://socghop.appspot.com/org/home/google/gsoc2009/openstreetmap This doesn't mean that Google is plotting to use OSM data in the future, just that someone

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Sam Vekemans
Once the Open Database Licence is sorted out at our end. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License I think that they will :) Cheers, Sam 2009/11/2 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk Bráulio Bezerra da Silva wrote: Will it ever happen? Yes. -- Jonathan

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2009/11/2 Celso González ce...@mitago.net: Instead using this workflow maybe its better to use the editgpx plugin 1. Import the GPX track 2. Use the editgpx plugin to clean it up 3. convert egpx to gpx 4. convert it to OSM and continue in 6. Merge to main datalayer Editgpx is a very bad

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin eTrex Vista Hcx

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Houle
John F. Eldredge wrote: The GPS in my car is a Garmin (I don't recall the exact model at the moment). It appears to be much more accurate when the car is in motion than when the car is stationary. If I power the GPS up with the car stationary, the location given can be inaccurate by 100

Re: [OSM-talk] Mountain Passes - Display Issue

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all, Just to bring to the group's notice. I added a few mountain passes a couple of days ago along with the hiking trails and waypoints When I now check on OSM, while the trails are there along with the waypoints, the passes are missing. However, when I download data from OSM using

[OSM-talk] Fwd: [OAM-talk] The once and future OpenAerialMap

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
For interest - an attempt to restart OpenAerialMap which might chime with various discussions people have been having about aerial imagery in OSM recently. The OAM mailing list is at http://openaerialmap.org/pipermail/talk_openaerialmap.org/ . cheers Richard Original Message

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM: simplify with gpsbabel

2009-11-02 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang
You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results, just right click on the layer, however it can be very tedious to remove points if they are once a second and all points are imported etc. Though i never used a gpx layer directly before (simply forgot about it), i

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:53 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/2 Anthony o...@inbox.org: In France you can copyright a building and anyone who takes a picture of the building and uses it for commercial

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: The public domain satellite imagery available for the places I map is as good or better than the Yahoo imagery provided in Potlatch, though. Satellite - aerial. I'm not sure if it's satellite or not. It's at 0.3 meter resolution.

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Anthony wrote: Unless you have received prior written authorization from Google (or, as applicable, from the provider of particular Content), you must not:  (b) copy, translate, modify, or make derivative works of

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Michael Barabanov
Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. Michael. On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:18:46PM +0530, Shalabh (shalab...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi Nop, thanks for your

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Liz
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Just a pedantic remark: Databases are not copyrightable, 'cause copyright law doesn't apply to databases. *Sui generis database law* applies to databases (such law is based on the EU DB directive). In Australia, the conclusion of one case (Ice Tv

[OSM-talk] traffic lights

2009-11-02 Thread SteveC
Is anyone interested in pushing through this set of ideas for modeling multiple traffic lights? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Set_of_Traffic_Signals The last discussion seems to be about a year ago. Yours c. Steve

[OSM-talk] Turn Restrictions Editor

2009-11-02 Thread Ian Dees
Has anyone attempted to write a turn restriction editor? I suppose it would be best suited as a JOSM plugin, but I suppose it would also work as a web app or something via OAuth. It would be nice to show a GUI where intersecting ways are shown up close with an editor to describe the lanes, where

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Kai Krueger
Sam Vekemans wrote: Once the Open Database Licence is sorted out at our end. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License I think that they will :) Unfortunately I am not so sure and I would interpret Googles recent activity as making it less likely for them to use OSM anytime

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Liz
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Kai Krueger wrote: Google might even turn into a tougher competitor for OSM than Navteq or TeleAtlas, as they are using some of the same advantages as OSM, crowd sourcing and providing mapping data for free, We need competition We should be thrilled that we are also

Re: [OSM-talk] Mountain Passes - Display Issue

2009-11-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Patrick Kilian schrieb: Hi all, Just to bring to the group's notice. I added a few mountain passes a couple of days ago along with the hiking trails and waypoints When I now check on OSM, while the trails are there along with the waypoints, the passes are missing. However, when I

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: Sam Vekemans wrote: Once the Open Database Licence is sorted out at our end. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License I think that they will :) Unfortunately I am not so sure and I would interpret

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread John Smith
2009/11/3 Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com: Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. +1 ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Anthony
2009/11/2 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com: With OSM data getting more and more quality, I guess it will be a logical move to Google (and others) to use it for its needs (for example in cities where they have NOTHING mapped). Though, I've never seen anyone discuss that.

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread John Smith
2009/11/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org: No.  I was going to say not unless OSM abandons CC-BY-SA in favor of public domain, but that's not going to ever happen either, so no. Google has no problem with saying where the data comes from, they already do this by commercial companies. This isn't the

[OSM-talk] fonts feature for josm and potlach

2009-11-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, apart from the supported languages, there is no way at present to see what is entered when using, for example, Indian scripts to enter names of features in JOSM. All we can see is little boxes. I have tried out other java applications, and by selecting the correct font, I am able to see

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread Anthony
2009/11/2 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org: No.  I was going to say not unless OSM abandons CC-BY-SA in favor of public domain, but that's not going to ever happen either, so no. Google has no problem with saying where the data comes from, they already

Re: [OSM-talk] fonts feature for josm and potlach

2009-11-02 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, November 3, 2009 12:38, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi, apart from the supported languages, there is no way at present to see what is entered when using, for example, Indian scripts to enter names of features in JOSM. All we can see is little boxes. I have tried out other java

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-02 Thread John Smith
2009/11/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org: True.  I should have said a non-copyleft license rather than public domain.  CC-BY would probably be easier to implement than public domain, actually. Actually that's a good point, with CC-BY-SA it's obvious where it came from, public domain can take a lot of

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-11-02 Thread Lambertus
Wat is het nou? 21 of 15 november (zoals nu op de wiki te lezen is)? Henk Hoff wrote: Hallo, Het lijkt erop dat zaterdag 21 november voor de meesten goed uitkomt. Kortom, ik wil voorstellen de noordelijke mappingparty op die dag te houden. Verzamelplek en tijdstip zullen nog bekend worden

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bridleway of Track

2009-11-02 Thread Rik de Landloper
Hallo, Sorry beetje late reaktie. Ik reageer even op alle reakties achter elkaar. Lambertus en Maarten Deen over 'highway=unclassified'. Ik ben zelf ook geneigd om zandwegen die een min of meer duidelijke doorgaande weg zijn en/of meerdere huizen ontsluiten als 'highway=unclassified' te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bridleway of Track

2009-11-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:30:12 +0100, Rik de Landloper r...@the-quickest.com wrote: Lambertus en Maarten Deen over 'highway=unclassified'. Ik ben zelf ook geneigd om zandwegen die een min of meer duidelijke doorgaande weg zijn en/of meerdere huizen ontsluiten als 'highway=unclassified' te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bridleway of Track

2009-11-02 Thread Lennard
Rik de Landloper wrote: fiets/wandel/paard) bordjes. Dit is althans de 'enge' uitleg. De 'brede' uitleg is dat alle wegen paden die langer dan 10 jaar (?) zijn opengesteld door de eigenaar zonder dat de eigenaar openstelling bestrijdt (bordjes eigen weg, verboden toegang ed) openbare wegen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-11-02 Thread Henk Hoff
Dat krijg je als je verschillende dingen tegelijkertijd doet. Grrr... Het is de 21e. Zal de wiki aanpassen.. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Netherlands_Mapping_Parties_2009#Noordelijke_mapping_party_-_21_november_2009 Gr, henk Op 2 november 2009 10:57 heeft Lambertus

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Radio 1: Google navigatie bedreiging voor OSM?

2009-11-02 Thread Rob
De Radio-Online uitzending is terug te luisteren op http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=10273578 (windows media) ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-11-02 Thread Lambertus
Ok, aankondiging op het forum is ook gemaakt: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5306 Henk Hoff wrote: Dat krijg je als je verschillende dingen tegelijkertijd doet. Grrr... Het is de 21e. Zal de wiki aanpassen..

[OSM-talk-nl] post to the list

2009-11-02 Thread Frans de Jong
___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bridleway of Track

2009-11-02 Thread Rik de Landloper
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:46 +0100, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Rik de Landloper wrote: fiets/wandel/paard) bordjes. Dit is althans de 'enge' uitleg. De 'brede' uitleg is dat alle wegen paden die langer dan 10 jaar (?) zijn opengesteld door de eigenaar zonder dat de eigenaar openstelling

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Radio 1: Google navigatie bedreiging voor OSM?

2009-11-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
En te downloaden als mp3: http://download.omroep.nl/radio1/tros/radioonline/20091031-13.mp3 Om deze niet meer verloren te laten gaan heb ik er ook een ogg van gemaakt: http://www.opengeo.nl/files/20091031-13.ogg Rob schreef: De Radio-Online uitzending is terug te luisteren op

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Radio 1: Google navigatie bedreiging voor OSM?

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Smits
Mooie publiciteit, ik zat aan de radio gekluisterd. Ik vond echter OSM niet echt bij het onderwerp passen... Op 30 oktober 2009 16:15 schreef Henk Hoff toffeh...@gmail.com het volgende: Even een update over het wanneer: Morgen, radio 1 na 1 uur (radio online). Ik vermoed ergens tussen 13.15

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Radio 1: Google navigatie bedreiging voor OSM?

2009-11-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
;-) Zelfde probleem hier. Mijn splinternieuwe netbook met moblin 2.1 preview (www.moblin.org) linux heeft ook enkel codecs voor ogg en ogv. bas de Lange schreef: Milo, Dank! Probeerde zojuist om de originele omroep.nl (WMA) te beluisteren, maar mijn ZenWalk Linux was niet in staat deze

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-11-02 Thread Rik de Landloper
Ik heb mezelf aangemeld Henk. Ik maak er een wandelweekend van. Ik overnacht vrijdag en zaterdag op een camping in Zuidlaarderveen. Maar als je iets dichterbij Veendam weet hoor ik het graag. Vrijdag start ik vanaf Assen en zondag ga ik mischien richting Groningen. On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:49

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-11-02 Thread Henk Hoff
Rik, Is dit iets? http://www.borgerswoldhoeve.nl/nl/hoofdmenu/camping-2/camping-borgerswoldhoeve (camping in Veendam) Gr, Henk Op 2 november 2009 16:37 heeft Rik de Landloper r...@the-quickest.com het volgende geschreven: Ik heb mezelf aangemeld Henk. Ik maak er een wandelweekend van. Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mikrokopter Aerial photography

2009-11-02 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:24:58 +0100, Milo van der Linden wrote: I know that you are a bit left in the blind as not the entire process is well documented, I will try to see if something can be done about this. Please share any resource you have because I only know how to position aerial images

[talk-au] New to mapping in Perth, WA

2009-11-02 Thread Arie Paap
Hello, I've just discovered osm and would like to introduce myself. I live in Stoneville[1] and work at Edith Cowan University in Joondalup[2] so travel a fair distance every day (by varying routes). It seems that there has been a lot of work getting roads mapped in Perth with a lot of it sourced

[Talk-de] OSM 2 AutoCAD

2009-11-02 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! es gibt zwar jetzt das Tool für den Export nach AI (zum Ausprobieren noch nicht gekommen) - da ich aber ein alter AutoCAD-Hase bin und so das Programm sehr gut kennt stelle ich mir die Frage, ob man die OSM Datei irgendwie struktiert (Layerweise) nach AutoCAD exportieren könnte. Wenn dann

Re: [Talk-de] Ich bin dann mal weg.

2009-11-02 Thread Florian Gross
Am Mo November 2 2009 glaubte Frederik Ramm zu wissen: Nach Recherche bei einschlaegigen IRC-Dauer-Lurkern stellt sich mir die Situation inzwischen so dar: * Englaender fragen auf IRC, ob jemand anders auch diese komische deutsche Mail von TobWen bekommen hat * mindestens zwei Leute

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung (was:Gratulation!)

2009-11-02 Thread qbert biker
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:20:34 +0100 Von: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com An: Christoph Eckert c...@christeck.de CC: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung

[Talk-de] SotM10 in Deutschland (oder Oestenreich / Schweiz)?

2009-11-02 Thread Henk Hoff
Hallo, Die State of the Map in Amsterdam letztem Juli war ein grossen Erfolg. Nun ist es Zeit fuer die Planung des SotM10. Die erste Frage ist naturlich: Wo? Ein viel gehoerter Vorschlag waehrend SotM09 war Berlin (und Karlsruhe und Munchen). Im moment haben wir nur einer Angebot aus Spanien:

Re: [Talk-de] Fragen zu Gemeindegrenzen und coastline

2009-11-02 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin Markus, Eigentlich ist ja die Gemeindegrenze die Küstenlinie Nein. Die Gemeindegrenze ist eine behördliche Festlegung. Sie entspricht der Katastergrenze. Danke. Stimmt, bei der Nennung klingelt was bei mir. Da meine bisherigen Versuche, amtliche Daten zu bekommen, leider an

Re: [Talk-de] gelöschte Nodes?

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 1. November 2009 19:47 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hallo, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Gibt es eigentlich irgendwo eine Funktion, um einzelne gelöschte Nodes (z.B. POIs) zu entdecken? Nein, gibt es derzeit tatsaechlich nicht. Wenn man sehr nahe ranzoomt und dann alle

[Talk-de] Onborad Diagnostic-System 2 und GPS

2009-11-02 Thread Sven Anders
Bin gerade über: http://icculus.org/obdgpslogger/ gestolpert. Jetzt kann man sogar die Öl Temperatur loggen Hintergrund: ODB-2 ist das Onborad Diagnostic-System 2 mit dem man alle Fahrzeuge im Emissionsverhalten überwachen kann, anscheind kann man darüber auch GPS Signale erhalten

Re: [Talk-de] gelöschte Nodes?

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Danke fuer die Antwort, es sind leider sogar 4936 _Seiten_ Changesets :( http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=12.481554%2C41.894252%2C12.487256%2C41.896648 Ups, sorry, es sind doch 4936 Changesets. Da warst Du schon ziemlich nah dran :D Gruss Martin

Re: [Talk-de] Onborad Diagnostic-System 2 und GPS

2009-11-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Sven Anders schrieb: Bin gerade über: http://icculus.org/obdgpslogger/ gestolpert. Jetzt kann man sogar die Öl Temperatur loggen Hintergrund: ODB-2 ist das Onborad Diagnostic-System 2 mit dem man alle Fahrzeuge im Emissionsverhalten überwachen kann, anscheind kann man darüber

Re: [Talk-de] Fragen zu Gemeindegrenzen und coastline

2009-11-02 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin Mark, Außerdem - was ist mit den Seebrücken und Molen oder auch Hafenbereichen (Wasser) an sich, die doch eindeutig zur Gemeinde gehören, dann aber außerhalb lägen? Ist das dort so eindeutig? Zumindest was den Bodensee angeht, gibt es Gerichtsurteile, nach denen die

Re: [Talk-de] Ich bin dann mal weg.

2009-11-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:04:22AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Die positive Lektion, die wir hieraus aber lernen koennten, ist, dass wir eigentlich in der OSM-Anwendung so eine Massenmail-Funktion einbauen sollten, damit Nutzer nicht auf fehleranfaellige Eigenbau- Loesungen zurueckgreifen

Re: [Talk-de] Moor

2009-11-02 Thread Sven Geggus
Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: zum Moor habe ich kein Tag gefunden - kann mir einer weiterhelfen ?? natual=wetland wetland=swamp http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=DE:Tag:natural%3Dwetlanduselang=de Gruss Sven -- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to

Re: [Talk-de] Moor

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: zum Moor habe ich kein Tag gefunden - kann mir einer weiterhelfen ?? natual=wetland wetland=swamp http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=DE:Tag:natural%3Dwetlanduselang=de ist das nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Moor

2009-11-02 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Am Montag 02 November 2009 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: permanente Wassersaettigung. Dann also wetland=bog ? ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Moor

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 RalfGesellensetter r...@gmx.de Am Montag 02 November 2009 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: permanente Wassersaettigung. Dann also wetland=bog ? +1 Gruss Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Ich bin dann mal weg.

2009-11-02 Thread Gehling Marc
Hallo, kann deine Mail nur zustimmen. Am 02.11.2009 um 01:04 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Die positive Lektion, die wir hieraus aber lernen koennten, ist, dass wir eigentlich in der OSM-Anwendung so eine Massenmail-Funktion einbauen sollten, damit Nutzer nicht auf fehleranfaellige Eigenbau-

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