On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote:
are there any suggestions for making it easier?
--
robin
I suggested a long time ago that adding segment roads in routes relations
was a bad idea.
The alternative is to put the intersection nodes and end-nodes of
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:
are there any suggestions for making it easier?
--
robin
Well you could put in a request to make the boundary between the
taglist and relations list in Potlatch moveable, so you can see more
relations. Having the
There is this proposal
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Route_Segments, which I
like, but it seems it's not worked on anymore and it's not rendered, since
it involves relations containing relations. I don't really mind having many
relations on roads. It doesn't pose a problem
2011/7/6 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
The alternative is to put the intersection nodes and end-nodes of the route.
This has the big advantage that ways are not split any more for some
abstract features like routes (and you don't have to add a 2nd relation to
rebuild the road). But it has the
Cool thing around pictures, as most of twitter clients can upload them
themselves and make a short links in the posts, so, we can try to use that
links and put them into nodes as well!
Also @mentioning - we're adding both ways now - so, you'll be able to use
@osm_it - to hide your mappings from
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:23 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
if you stored only nodes there would be ambiguity problems in cases
where several ways connect the same nodes.
You also have ambiguity problem in the other model e.g. when you have
segments in your relation
By the way, we'v reduced permissions for twitter - just like it should be!
Thanks for mentioning that!
--
RO
2011/7/6 Oleg gel...@gmail.com
Cool thing around pictures, as most of twitter clients can upload them
themselves and make a short links in the posts, so, we can try to use that
links
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Why on earth should we give references to proprietary data projects
like mapmaker in our wiki?
Including it in the list gives us a chance to link to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_map_maker
and explain why people should *not* choose GMM instead of OSM.
--
On 6 July 2011 22:03, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Why on earth should we give references to proprietary data projects
like mapmaker in our wiki?
Including it in the list gives us a chance to link to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_map_maker
On 6 July 2011 18:20, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
[GG] I was not talking about copyright. Copyright laws are of no use
in the digital era,
You were talking about databases, however databases can still store
copyrightable content, in this case it's
Am 06.07.2011 20:17, schrieb John Smith:
On 6 July 2011 22:03, Tobias Knerro...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Why on earth should we give references to proprietary data projects
like mapmaker in our wiki?
Including it in the list gives us a chance to link to
Hi,
Dave F. wrote:
If, by _used_ you mean that it's a part of the way, then *millions* of
nodes have no attributes.
No tags. Yes.
If one of these gets moved then the whole way gets updated,
No.
Bye
Frederik
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On 6 July 2011 22:39, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Detaching intersection nodes is not something usual. At the moment, the
complexity is more on managing ways with an increasing amount of relations
and an increasing amount of segments within the relations for a single
street.
hmm, all
i did a search for new zealand, and was heartened to find we are now
part of australia. at last, we have come to our senses and joined as a
nation!
slightly more seriously, could someone help with the labelling of the
node for nz? apart from somehow being part of australia, if i click on
the
On 07/06/2011 11:35 PM, Robin Paulson wrote:
is there any consensus on shortening of parts of names?
e.g.:
street/st
saint/st
avenue/ave
point/pt
mount/mt
i was under the impression consensus was to type the full word, then
renderers would shorten where necessary? apparently some
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 03:35:07PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
is there any consensus on shortening of parts of names?
e.g.:
street/st
saint/st
avenue/ave
point/pt
mount/mt
i was under the impression consensus was to type the full word, then
renderers would shorten where necessary?
Looking at the details it seems like the Australia being referred to
is the continent, not the country. The New Zealand node has a
is_in:continent=Australia tag and there is a place=continent node
that nominatim is associating it with. So I guess this is correct
but perhaps a little confusing in
I managed to download the LULC layer but when I try to download in JOSM, I
get a message
Sorry! No data available in this scale.
This is for very low zoom levels i.e.1 inch = 1 km
Any idea why?
Shalabh
The imagery is for even lower zoom levels since its on the 1:1million scale.
I
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:
I managed to download the LULC layer but when I try to download in JOSM, I
get a message
Sorry! No data available in this scale.
This is for very low zoom levels i.e.1 inch = 1 km
Any idea why?
Shalabh
The
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:
I managed to download the LULC layer but when I try to download in JOSM,
I get a message
Sorry! No data available in this scale.
This is for
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 01:37:54AM +0200, Gromebar wrote:
E' solo un messasggio di prova, mi sono iscritto ora alla mailing
list, se ho sbagliato qualcosa fatemi sapere, intanto vi porgo un
saluto :)
Messaggio arrivato, benvenuto!
In che zona del mondo mappi?
--
Niccolo Rigacci
Firenze -
Il 06 luglio 2011 08:53, ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it ha scritto:
Buongiorno Luca,
ciao ale
ci sono novità per i rifugi?
Per il venerdì è confermato il panepucci, dobbiamo passare a L'Aquila
a recuperare le chiavi
Il panepucci ha poca disponibilità di acqua ma basta per la cena
Buongiorno a tutti,
ho potuto valutare come i confini Amministrativi ISTAT 2011 uplodati da David
Paleino, almeno nella mia provincia (Salerno), siano molto più precisi degli
attuali presenti nel database di OSM, compaiono anche delle isole prima di oggi
sconosciute a OSM!!.
Quindi ho deciso
2011/7/6 Demon Tage tagede...@gmail.com:
Vorrei procedere inoltre, come è stato fatto in Sicilia e in altre zone
d'Italia, a far coincidere il confine amministrativo dei comuni costieri, con
la linea di costa.
l'ho fatto anch'io, e lo trovo molto utile per creare un render
migliore (uno può
Il 06 luglio 2011 12:44, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
ha scritto:
Il problema è che probabilmente
(non lo so per certo) la linea di costa non è il confine. Invece il
confine (regionale, provinciale, comunale?) dovrebbe essere la linea
di base (vedi anche wikipedia sulle acque
2011/7/6 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com:
La linea di base dovrebbe essere solo rappresentativa del confine di
stato, per delimitare le acque nazionali da quelli internazionali; i
confini degli altri elementi amministrativi dovrebbe essere la linea
di costa
Ottimo, allora il lavoro finora
Il 06/07/2011 9.00, Niccolo Rigacci ha scritto:
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 01:37:54AM +0200, Gromebar wrote:
E' solo un messasggio di prova, mi sono iscritto ora alla mailing
list, se ho sbagliato qualcosa fatemi sapere, intanto vi porgo un
saluto :)
Messaggio arrivato, benvenuto!
In che zona
Il 06/07/2011 9.53, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:
Il 06 luglio 2011 08:53, ale_z...@libero.itale_z...@libero.it ha scritto:
Buongiorno Luca,
ciao ale
ci sono novità per i rifugi?
Per il venerdì è confermato il panepucci, dobbiamo passare a L'Aquila
a recuperare le chiavi
Il panepucci ha
2011/7/6 Gromebar grome...@distruzione.org:
Ah andate in montagna verso l'aquila? se mi fossi un attimo smosso prima
magari partecipavo visto che sono abruzzese!
Uhm, magari la prossima volta, così mi organizzo (tanto che sarei venuto
solo a farvi compagnia non essendo ancora un mapper, però
2011/7/6 Gromebar grome...@distruzione.org:
Vorrei iniziare a mappare in abruzzo, all'interno della provincia di chieti,
ho già guardato un po la zona e non è mappata in modo capillare.
giusto
Le mie intenzioni sono comprare un gps e portarmelo in bici o a piedi per
alcuni posti.
Mi sono
Il 06/07/2011 13.28, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
2011/7/6 Gromebargrome...@distruzione.org:
Ah andate in montagna verso l'aquila? se mi fossi un attimo smosso prima
magari partecipavo visto che sono abruzzese!
Uhm, magari la prossima volta, così mi organizzo (tanto che sarei venuto
solo a
Ciao,
ho sentito il Comune di Forlì per quanto concerne i dati geografici.
Mi hanno esplicitamente detto che i dati possono essere utilizzati
anche in basi dati commerciali. Essi sono dichiarati compatibili sia
con la ODBL che e con la CCBYSA. Conoscono OSM e sono contenti del
fatto che noi li si
Il 06/07/2011 13.34, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
2011/7/6 Gromebargrome...@distruzione.org:
Vorrei iniziare a mappare in abruzzo, all'interno della provincia di chieti,
ho già guardato un po la zona e non è mappata in modo capillare.
giusto
Le mie intenzioni sono comprare un gps e
Il 06 luglio 2011 11:43, Gromebar grome...@distruzione.org ha scritto:
Le informazioni relative le trovo nel archivio delle discussioni oppure
l'evento delle discussioni è stato pubblicato da qualche parte.
Do un occhiata ma penso di non farcela :(
qui [0] trovi qualcosa, da se riesci fai un
Il 06/07/2011 13.57, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:
Il 06 luglio 2011 11:43, Gromebargrome...@distruzione.org ha scritto:
Le informazioni relative le trovo nel archivio delle discussioni oppure
l'evento delle discussioni è stato pubblicato da qualche parte.
Do un occhiata ma penso di non farcela
Questo lo hanno anche formalizzato sul sito?
2011/7/6 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com:
Ciao,
ho sentito il Comune di Forlì per quanto concerne i dati geografici.
Mi hanno esplicitamente detto che i dati possono essere utilizzati
anche in basi dati commerciali. Essi sono dichiarati
Questo lo hanno anche formalizzato sul sito?
ho trovato questo:
http://www.comune.forli.fc.it/cartografiavettoriale/default.asp?sect=informativa
in cui si legge:
--
I dati della cartografia digitale del territorio forlivese sono di
proprietà
Ciao a tutti, sono Michele e sto' mappando un po' di zone del Trentino dove
giro o in bici o a piedi. Mi hanno dato un gps edge 800 e ho un problema.
Scarica la traccia in formato .fit e poi posso convertirla in gpx ma il formato
originale non si porta i wp nel file .fit quindi ora ho tracce ma
2011/7/6 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com:
--
I dati della cartografia digitale del territorio forlivese sono di
proprietà dell'Amministrazione Comunale; di essi è vietata la
commercializzazione diretta. E' autorizzata l'elaborazione e
La linea di base dovrebbe essere solo rappresentativa del confine di
stato, per delimitare le acque nazionali da quelli internazionali; i
confini degli altri elementi amministrativi dovrebbe essere la linea
di costa
Ecco il dubbio in effetti mi era venuto soprattutto per quanto riguarda la
Il 06 luglio 2011 16:22, mima...@tin.it ha scritto:
Ciao a tutti, sono Michele e sto' mappando un po' di zone del Trentino dove
giro o in bici o a piedi.
che zone del trentino?
Mi hanno dato un gps edge 800 e ho un problema. Scarica la traccia in formato
.fit e poi posso convertirla in
2011/7/6 Demon Tage tagede...@gmail.com
Per la mia provincia ho trovato che, visto che i vecchi confini sono molto
imprecisi rispetto agli ISTAT 2011, sia molto più facile e pulito cancellare
le vecchie way (sempre utilizzando il protocollo Paleino) per inserire le
nuove una alla volta,
Alto Garda, Val Rendena. Uso tcx converter
--Messaggio originale--
Da: Luca Delucchi
A: mima...@tin.it
A: openstreetmap list - italiano
Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Problema gps garmin
Inviato: 6 Lug 2011 15:07
Il 06 luglio 2011 16:22, mima...@tin.it ha scritto:
Ciao a tutti, sono Michele e
Il 06 luglio 2011 17:31, mima...@tin.it ha scritto:
Alto Garda, Val Rendena. Uso tcx converter
Bene, quelle zone sono già abbastanza ben mappate, ma un ulteriore
controllo non fa di certo male
qui trovi qualcosa che potrebbe esserti utile per risolvere il tuo problema
http://www.comune.forli.fc.it/cartografiavettoriale/default.asp?sect=informativa
in cui si legge:
--
I dati della cartografia digitale del territorio forlivese sono di
proprietà dell'Amministrazione Comunale; di essi è vietata la
commercializzazione
Ciao,
ho sentito il Comune di Forlì per quanto concerne i dati geografici.
Mi hanno esplicitamente detto che i dati possono essere utilizzati
anche in basi dati commerciali. Essi sono dichiarati compatibili sia
con la ODBL che e con la CCBYSA. Conoscono OSM e sono contenti del
fatto che noi li si
IMHO è meglio non perdere lo storico della vecchia linea, aggiungendo quindi
i nodi interni che mancano e spostando quelli esistenti sulla nuova
posizione. O almeno, questo è quanto ho fatto quando ho ricalcato i confini
dei comuni della mia zona, dopo essermi consultato in lista.
io invece
Messaggio originale
ci sono novità per i rifugi?
Per il venerdì è confermato il panepucci, dobbiamo passare a L'Aquila
a recuperare le chiavi
Il panepucci ha poca disponibilità di acqua ma basta per la cena e la
colazione, ricordarsi di portare o un saccolenzuolo [0] o un sacco a
2011/7/6 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com:
io invece sono dell'idea contraria, non ha senso conservare lo storico
per due import distinti. In Friuli abbiamo fatto così: caricati i
nuovi dati e buttati via quelli vecchi.
Anche io concordo che questo sia il metodo migliore per i motivi
Il 06 luglio 2011 18:03, ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it ha scritto:
Messaggio originale
ci sono novità per i rifugi?
Per il venerdì è confermato il panepucci, dobbiamo passare a L'Aquila
a recuperare le chiavi
Il panepucci ha poca disponibilità di acqua ma basta per la cena e
2011/7/6 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com:
Io per il momento ho preso 3 buste (tot 6 porzioni) di risotto ai funghi e 2
buste (tot 6 porzioni) di crema d'asparagi.
ne prendo anch'io 2?
Se sono quelle dell'esselunga, io consiglio di provarle prima di
considerarle per 2 (anche se c'è scritto)
Il 06 luglio 2011 18:03, ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it ha scritto:
Cose da sapere e da fare:
- Per sapere come organizzarsi coi viveri: Quanti saremo venerdì sera? E
sabato sera?
Io per il momento ho preso 3 buste (tot 6 porzioni) di risotto ai funghi e 2
buste (tot 6 porzioni) di
2011/7/6 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com:
non ha senso conservare lo storico
per due import distinti. In Friuli abbiamo fatto così: caricati i
nuovi dati e buttati via quelli vecchi.
+1, tanto il db non si dimentica niente (rimangono anche i way cancellati).
l'unica cosa da
Ciao a tutti.
Quando tento di convertire files .shp composti da soli nodi il programma mi da
questo messaggio di errore:
Exception in thread main java.nio.BufferUnderflowException
at java.nio.Buffer.nextGetIndex(Unknown Source)
at java.nio.DirectByteBuffer.getDouble(Unknown
2011/7/6 Milani Alessio klava...@gmail.com:
Nessun problema invece con linee e aree.
Qualche idea su come risolvere?
su quali dati lavori?
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In data mercoledì 6 luglio 2011 22:53:24, Simone Cortesi ha scritto:
2011/7/6 Milani Alessio klava...@gmail.com:
Nessun problema invece con linee e aree.
Qualche idea su come risolvere?
su quali dati lavori?
CTR Veneto
Ciao
Alessio
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2011/7/6 Fabio Alessandro Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com:
2011/7/6 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com:
io invece sono dell'idea contraria, non ha senso conservare lo storico
per due import distinti. In Friuli abbiamo fatto così: caricati i
nuovi dati e buttati via quelli vecchi.
Anche
2011/7/6 Davide Giunchi davide.giun...@gmail.com:
Ciao,
ho sentito il Comune di Forlì per quanto concerne i dati geografici.
Mi hanno esplicitamente detto che i dati possono essere utilizzati
anche in basi dati commerciali. Essi sono dichiarati compatibili sia
con la ODBL che e con la CCBYSA.
A typical address should something like this:
addr:housenumber=1 addr:street=Rizal addr:city=Makati #osmit 121.43167, 14.53816
80 characters in all.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote:
Maning, this really good to get Street Address (i.e. House No. Street
Name and
Sorry for replying late but I had to leave for the night shift yesterday.
On 2011-07-05 15:28, John Smith wrote:
On 5 July 2011 23:04, Andreas Perstingerandreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
What do you consider as same result? How far away do I have to place a node?
If I put one additional
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:17 PM
Aan: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes
On 6 July 2011 02:49, ce-test, qualified testing
On 02/07/2011 17:15, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
suppose there's a node that has been created by user A with no tags
on it. Suppose the node has later been moved by user B. A has not
accepted the CT, while B has.
Will the node have to be removed when we go to phase 5 of the license
change?
Hi,
Dave F. wrote:
I must be missing something, because I believe this discussion is a
complete waste of time.
It is good that you have the modesty to assume that you're missing
something rather than 10 others are completely wasting their time ;) in
this case you are indeed missing (or I
Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
On 16 June 2011 09:55, Richard Fairhurst lt;rich...@systemed.netgt;
wrote:
Robert Whittaker wrote:
A major purpose of the CTs is to ensure that all the data
remaining in OSM is suitable for re-licensing under any Free
and Open license without the need for
On 7 July 2011 04:03, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote:
Although it still seems to be controversial how clause 1 and 2 of the CT
interact, with the recent draft intent of the LWG to issue a clarifying
statement[1] that indeed data only has to be compatible with the current
license and
On 6 July 2011 16:46, Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
Then what about the attached alternative versions? For each version I
started JOSM, opened a new layer, added the node (-31.069902030361792,
152.728383561) which is close to the beginning of the road, loaded the
On 7 July 2011 04:20, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 July 2011 16:46, Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
Then what about the attached alternative versions? For each version I
started JOSM, opened a new layer, added the node (-31.069902030361792,
On 06/07/2011 18:29, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Dave F. wrote:
I must be missing something, because I believe this discussion is a
complete waste of time.
It is good that you have the modesty to assume that you're missing
something rather than 10 others are completely wasting their time ;)
On 2011-07-06 20:23, John Smith wrote:
On 7 July 2011 04:20, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 July 2011 16:46, Andreas Perstingerandreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
Then what about the attached alternative versions? For each version I
started JOSM, opened a new layer, added
On 7 July 2011 06:12, Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
But even if I'm just one person the question still remains: Do you consider
any of these 4 versions a violation of your copyright?
Are you planning to try and replace all my work one way at a time like this?
Which is of
On 2011-07-06 22:17, John Smith wrote:
Are you planning to try and replace all my work one way at a time like this?
No, I just wanted to show you that you can't really tell if someone
retraces a removed way by looking at an aerial imagery, by looking at
the current OSM map or by just moving
On 7 July 2011 07:25, Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
No, I just wanted to show you that you can't really tell if someone retraces
a removed way by looking at an aerial imagery, by looking at the current OSM
map or by just moving randomly some nodes.The same goes for
IMHO
On 7 July 2011 08:27, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Google in addition have their ToS.
So one person copies tiles and breaches contract and gives them to
another person who is only bound by copyright ...
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On 06/07/2011 21:04, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Dave F. wrote:
If one of these gets moved then the whole way gets updated,
No.
Substantively, that is what happens, but technically, in the database,
it is not.
In the database, we
Am 06.07.2011 20:31, schrieb John Smith:
On 6 July 2011 18:20, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
[GG] I was not talking about copyright. Copyright laws are of no use
in the digital era,
You were talking about databases, however databases can still store
On 7 July 2011 09:34, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
That does not imply that individual contributors actually hold any rights in
the data they
contributed. As we know, that is a difficult question and depends on
jurisdiction and so
on, and my take on it would be: probably not. For all
Am 06.07.2011 23:25, schrieb Andreas Perstinger:
BTW I've just found some high court decisions which clearly state that
a map (and its content) isn't protected by copyright automatically
here in Austria. You have to prove individual creativity. Just
reproducing geographical facts like
On 7 July 2011 09:47, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Normally none of them lead to a protected work and nobody would confuse it
for creativity
I'm not sure if I'm more amused that you have to try and scale things
down to the size of a brick or the fact that even you state it's the
morally
Am 07.07.2011 01:40, schrieb John Smith:
On 7 July 2011 09:34, Simon Poolesi...@poole.ch wrote:
That does not imply that individual contributors actually hold any rights in
the data they
contributed. As we know, that is a difficult question and depends on
jurisdiction and so
on, and my take
Upps you are really confused about the origins of copyright protection,
which are rather recent
and had nothing to do with morals.
Simon
Am 07.07.2011 01:54, schrieb John Smith:
On 7 July 2011 09:47, Simon Poolesi...@poole.ch wrote:
Normally none of them lead to a protected work and
On 7 July 2011 10:04, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Upps you are really confused about the origins of copyright protection,
which are rather recent
and had nothing to do with morals.
I didn't know the late 1800s was considered rather recent
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Am 07.07.2011 01:56, schrieb Anthony:
...
There certainly is creativity involved in making a brick wall.
Choosing a herringbone bond vs. a stretcher bond, for instance. And in
some cases it can be copyrightable - not if it's just a herringbone or
a stretcher bond, but if the pattern is
In terms of laws, sure.
Am 07.07.2011 02:08, schrieb John Smith:
On 7 July 2011 10:04, Simon Poolesi...@poole.ch wrote:
Upps you are really confused about the origins of copyright protection,
which are rather recent
and had nothing to do with morals.
I didn't know the late 1800s was
Well 300 to 400 years earlier (as in printing press with movable
letters) which doesn't make it recent,
but still twice as old as copyright law.
The main point however is that copyright law has a economic motivation,
not moral as you imply.
Simon
Am 07.07.2011 02:12, schrieb John Smith:
On 7 July 2011 10:20, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Well 300 to 400 years earlier (as in printing press with movable letters)
which doesn't make it recent,
but still twice as old as copyright law.
The main point however is that copyright law has a economic motivation, not
moral as you
Since the ban on all contributors who didn't sign the CTs, and ban on all
new contributors from using NearMap and other CC-BY/CC-BY-SA sources, I'm no
longer actively contributing to the OSM database. Instead I am now actively
contributing to the fosm database. I am interested to hear what other
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.comwrote:
Since the ban on all contributors who didn't sign the CTs, and ban on all
new contributors from using NearMap and other CC-BY/CC-BY-SA sources, I'm no
longer actively contributing to the OSM database. Instead I am now
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.comwrote:
Are you going to stop contributing data altogether? Or are you putting you
efforts on hold at the moment.
My efforts are on hold at the moment. Still disillusioned...
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Hi Andrew,
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 21:29, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Are you moving to the fosm db? If so, great! Less problems with trying to
merge your data into fosm, and we can all get back to mapping. Do you have
any concerns over the switch?
I have concerns. The
This is exactly right.
On 7/6/2011 5:35 AM, Chris Barham wrote:
Hi Andrew,
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 21:29, Andrew Harveyandrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Are you moving to the fosm db? If so, great! Less problems with trying to
merge your data into fosm, and we can all get back to mapping.
On 6 July 2011 22:35, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote:
I'd like to think all this rather dull licence bickering will play out
and OSM will continue and strengthen. It's sad that people with
agendas are talking up the 'possible' deletion of data, and rushing
off to fork. That energy
On 06/07/2011, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote:
because any CC-BY-SA derived data you add may be removed if OSM
abandons CC-BY-SA at some point in the future (or may even be
conflicting with your agreed CTs now...).
How could I add CC-BY-SA derived data if I use GPS traces, audio
On 7 July 2011 07:54, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
How could I add CC-BY-SA derived data if I use GPS traces, audio recordings
of names, or imagery like Yahoo or Bing? The only way I could see this
happening would be if I was to deliberately go out of my way to add a
Actually it's
Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
This is exactly right.
It's only exactly right if you don't have a problem with the new
licence, with the process by which it was implemented, with mass
deletion of data, with the proliferation of incompatible open licences,
with irrevocable and eternal
On 7/6/2011 3:20 PM, Sam Couter wrote:
Steve Coastst...@asklater.com wrote:
This is exactly right.
It's only exactly right if you don't have a problem with the new
licence, with the process by which it was implemented, with mass
deletion of data, with the proliferation of incompatible open
As others have said..
1) Ive moved to fosm since the lockout
2) Im feeling pretty disillusioned at the whole thing, and seriously
wonder if its not worth just paying 5 bucks for a map that I cannot
share, rather than deal with the politics of a staggered mapping project
3) Ive made a couple of
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:29:54 +1000
From: Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com
To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of
CT/license changes
Message-ID:
Hi
Is anybody good at spotting eBay scams? This dude has 64 new Garmin Vista HCx's
on eBay for about $120 less than comparable offers. Apart from zero feedback
and the price, it looks legit to me.
Hmm - any thoughts on a possible GPS bargain? (I was thinking it could be ok as
Canada is awash
The URLs you sent didnt work here, but personally Ive bought a few GPS
receivers from dealextreme.com Theyre a hong kong based business but
have free shipping and low prices. I think my GPS data logger cost
about $15 there. Most of their LCD GPS units simply run windows CE so
you simply have to
Você pode baixar os mapas daqui:
http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/south-america/ (baixe o PBF, o OsmAnd
reconhece). A atualização é semanal, se não me engano.
O OsmAnd permite atualizar nomes de vias e sentido ?
O iOS tem alguma aplicação que permita isso ? Se não tiver, alguém quer me
ajudar a
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