Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. I think, the problem is, that Locus MAY BE used in a bad way by bulk downloading. As long as it's used like a browser it would not be a problem and the lock could be removed (I'm pretty sure then that would not be a problem even for the admins). But as it's not distinguishable currently

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 29.11.2011 12:30, schrieb Parveen Arora: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Janko Mihelićjan...@gmail.com wrote: Your question is the same as if someone asked why isn't there an official Linux; not Ubuntu, not Mint, not Debian, but simply official Linux distribution. No doubt this is a good

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Change View on OSM Inspector

2011-12-13 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 13.12.2011 20:59, schrieb Nathan Edgars II: On 12/13/2011 2:57 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 12/13/2011 08:47 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I have done many edits of this sort over the years. It has been standard practice for a long time. Any tainting has already happened. I am not

Re: [OSM-talk] Branding question, OSM logo with .ai

2011-12-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Frans. There simply is no right logo. The osm logo is like a general idea, that can be changed slightly. There is the logo used on the website and the wiki, but even that changed in the past, because somebody proposed a new version that others liked. About your suggestion about AI: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-30 Thread Peter Wendorff
I would like to see a combination (yes, I could work on that myself, but neither I'm a rails coder, nor do I have the time - sorry ;) ) of a map and the data. Observing Kothic.js as a client side rendering engine and some approaches and ideas towards tile based data delivery I wish we could

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-30 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 30.12.2011 17:22, schrieb Thomas Davie: You've not been misled, you've misread. I don't think he has. I think, we have to find a way in between. I already mentioned my vision to provide a VIEW on the DATA, that the user can define himself. In that vision, OSM is not about maps. OSM is

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-30 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 30.12.2011 17:22, schrieb Thomas Davie: You've not been misled, you've misread. I don't think he has. I think, we have to find a way in between. I already mentioned my vision to provide a VIEW on the DATA, that the user can define himself. In that vision, OSM is not about maps. OSM is

Re: [OSM-talk] How I got here - was Geocaching.com moved to OSM (partly)

2012-01-19 Thread Peter Wendorff
You see? Again the multi-layer and merging-data problem... I'm pretty sure, that problem is one of the most important problems to solve in or around osm. A few years ago I thought about writing an application to manage a graveyard. As my father had to manage one (who is in which grave? in

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

2012-02-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Brian. I would simply pull these information from Wikipedia, where the Country-Template includes the official language. Therefore it should be straight forward to fetch them - automatically or manually. Nevertheless the question is: What about countries with more than one official

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 03.03.2012 15:15, schrieb John F. Eldredge: Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? In Germany these signs exist, but the distances refer to different locations. The sign located at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Separate lane tagging

2012-03-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 05.03.2012 12:51, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: For instance some time ago some mappers started to use highway=footway, footway=sidewalk to map sidewalks with dedicated osm-ways. This will in many cases actually lead to worse routing results, as a destination just on the other side of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-16 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 16.03.2012 08:31, schrieb Kai Krueger: Kai Krueger wrote This imho shows that the publicity of Apple and Foursquare using OSM directly resulted in new mappers for OSM. Although it isn't the complete record, that was around the 13th of September 2009 (anyone know if there was a special

Re: [OSM-talk] Lightning fast car routing built on OpenStreetMap data, with draggable routes

2012-03-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 17.03.2012 13:46, schrieb Markus Lindholm: Had fun testing different routes, and it is fast. I also came across a situation that it couldn't find a route for, from Wallingatan 11 to Wallingatan 5. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.336906lon=18.057388zoom=18 Wallingatan is a oneway street

Re: [OSM-talk] Group relation proposal

2012-03-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. I think, the name of the relation is far from optimal, but the basic idea is not the worst, and we already use a similar approach in nested Multipolygon-relations. But: 1) type=group is far too unspecific and misleading, as it's NOT intended to group similar items together (like a

[OSM-talk] Map key on osm.org

2012-03-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. How is the map key (german: Legende) generated on osm.org? It looks like it is out of sync for the mapnik rendering (viewing from Germany, description texts are in german). - some items are not matching between map key and map - many items rendered in the map are not reflected in the map

Re: [OSM-talk] Map key on osm.org

2012-03-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
/ -Original Message- From: Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] Sent: 22 March 2012 13:37 To: Peter Wendorff Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Map key on osm.org On 22/03/12 13:23, Peter Wendorff wrote: How is the map key (german: Legende) generated on osm.org? It looks like it is out

Re: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012

2012-03-24 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 24.03.2012 16:42, schrieb Russ Nelson: Sorry to keep pushing so hard on this, but why delete map data unnecessarily? Why delete MY data unnecessarily? The first question you ask here I can take as serious: good one, and IMHO you're right, I cannot say, why the OSMF don't want to count data

Re: [OSM-talk] An example photo/video mapping trip

2012-04-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Nikhil. Sounds great, but please be careful at the user interface design. Changes to the map IMHO should be proposed by the plugin, but not applied without dedicated decision of the user. There may (and I fear, will) be too much errors even if your image recognition is good to add street

Re: [OSM-talk] License change/redaction affecting objects geometry

2012-04-12 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 12.04.2012 13:15, schrieb Jacek Konieczny: Then, I think that the best option would be to add a specific tag which could facilitate the remapping process for the crowd. The tag sounds like a good idea, but it has one problem: untouched tags would stay forever even if there is no real problem

Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and internationalization in place names

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 16.04.2012 09:54, schrieb Maarten Deen: Wouldn't it be an idea to tag the name in the characterset of the country and have the renderer decide whether or not to render a name:en tag with the name tag? I don't think it's a simple task to decide from the unicode representation of osm tags

Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and internationalization in place names

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 16.04.2012 17:58, schrieb Janko Mihelic': Hello, this is a great topic! There is one more issue with internalization and names. Users tend to add more than just names in name=* tags. For example Lago di Garda http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/8569. If a machine tried to turn

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap

2012-05-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
Frans, I fear, you still don't understand many things around the OSM universe. No, OpenSeaMap is not part of the OSM project. Yes, OpenSeaMap is part of the OSM ecosystem, that is build of very few core components/services and tons of tools around, that are independent of OSM. Core services

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N

2012-05-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. While I think, that this kind of building number should go to the ref tag I agree, that it might often be tagged as name in osm and that the import therefore should be extra careful with it. regards Peter Am 20.05.2012 19:12, schrieb Werner Hoch: Hi, Am Sonntag, den 20.05.2012, 19:46

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 30.05.2012 02:40, schrieb Russ Nelson: Frederik Ramm writes: 2. I don't think you should continue to make mass edits under the username WorstFixer because that implies that before you fixed things they were among the worst which has the potential to offend people. I always

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Import guidelines review

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 06.06.2012 12:16, schrieb Worst Fixer: It ist not importing, but it ist a large part of it. It should be not on import guide lines. Import guide lines should only cover actual imports. You're right: that's not in the current written version of the import guidelines. But the current written

[OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. While developing the look-and-listen map I currently do some research about tagging and tag combinations as I have to build some kind of decision tree to determine how to describe a given osm object as text. I thought about first level tags in the osm database and looked into the most

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-14 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Stephen. If the combination amenity=bus_stop, parking=yes really is a park-and-ride station, you're right. But is that a correct interpretation for it? In Germany p+r spaces are signed as such, and I'm not sure wether they are legally restricted to people who use the bus or train afterwards

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-16 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 13.06.2012 14:19, schrieb john whelan: I wonder about lumping things together sometimes. Locally we have gas stations amenity=fuel that have a convenience store and a ABM or ATM in OSM language. I'm tempted to have three separate POIs in much the same way as a bank with an ATM have two

Re: [OSM-talk] Icons

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 28.06.2012 11:12, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: +1, as other have pointed out: the standard depends heavily on the map style. Instead of one standard set maybe it would be nice to have at least 2 or 3 standard sets Would it be possible to categorize these standard sets? Looking at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction progress

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 15.07.2012 16:47, schrieb Malcolm Herring: But maybe the RF was suggesting that we swap our GPS sets for shovels and all get out there to dig rectangular continents? This may sound a daunting task, but it is nothing compared to getting all OSM members to agree to a change in the DB

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map with Bing background

2012-07-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Alan. As far as I remember we are allowed to use Bing imagery for tracing inside the osm community, but we are not allowed to use the imagery publicly on the web unconnected to tracing issues. If I'm right, it is not allowed what you want - and I think, if it would be okay, some would have

Re: [OSM-talk] Very not happy

2012-07-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 22.07.2012 00:42, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: On 21 July 2012 15:07, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: That's quite incorrect, millions of objects that were not flagged in those tools have been removed, Can both of you give us the object IDs of a couple of these objects to

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 25.07.2012 14:54, schrieb Miloš Komarčević: Which brings us back to the point Peteris Krisjanis made: name= without the context of a language is somewhat useless from the database point of view, apart from quick and dirty rendering of what is on the ground. +1 But it is useful for quick and

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 27.07.2012 10:02, schrieb Lester Caine: Frederik Ramm wrote: So, my questions to you are I think there is a broad concensus 1. The concrete question: Should all name tag in the Crimea be in Russian (with appropriate name:uk tags of course), even though the official language in Ukraine

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 27.07.2012 17:46, schrieb john whelan: Locally we have English and French. Unfortunately on one local street has the following physical signs on it Prestone, Prestone Drive, Prom Prestone Dr depending which sign you look at. Personally I prefer the name:en etc it makes it easier to

Re: [OSM-talk] Lost tags

2012-07-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 29.07.2012 08:37, schrieb Arun Ganesh: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org mailto:frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:39:56 +0530 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: It is quite

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 03.08.2012 02:19, schrieb Eugene Sandulenko: Moreover, having unpredictable mix in 'name' will degrade quality of any navigational maps or geocoding. While I cannot say anything regarding your other points, and, to be clear, I don't oppose you in general, I would like to disagree with this

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 03.08.2012 12:55, schrieb Eugene Sandulenko: On 3 August 2012 11:07, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Moreover, having unpredictable mix in 'name' will degrade quality of any navigational maps or geocoding. While I cannot say anything regarding your other points

Re: [OSM-talk] shameless copying: still going on !!

2012-08-09 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 09.08.2012 15:10, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: I declare the new map still to be CC-BY-SA and not ODBL Well... Your examples have to be investigated and fixed, I'm sure, but here you're completely right: OSM is still licensed as CC-BY-SA currently as far as I

Re: [OSM-talk] Extended tagging schema - my thoughts

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 09.08.2012 17:51, schrieb Rob Nickerson: Hi all, One of the issues raised with the extended conditions tag schema was the use of variable values in the key part of the tag. For example maxspeed:wet = 80 is in the form constant:variable=variable. This has been deemed to break the basic

Re: [OSM-talk] Extended tagging schema - my thoughts

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 10.08.2012 12:29, schrieb Andrew: Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de writes: one open question would be how to deal with units in this combination: mph, m/h, km/h, and the usual errors mp/h, kmh, and so on, but I think even that should be relatively easy to do, as the numbers

Re: [OSM-talk] average speed as opposed to speed limit in calculating routes

2012-08-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Renato. I think we had a similar discussions some time ago on one of the mailing lists, but I don't find it currently. Some thoughts about it: 1) possibilities to do sth. like that in OSM: Waze uses recorded data collections from real users. Provided that these are real users and real

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 26.09.2012 10:30, schrieb THEVENON Julien: * De :* Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk Hi Lester * *I do get the impression that the Cadastre import has it's own rules on how to use it, and those are only available in French, which irritates. You mean you would appreciate a translation of

Re: [OSM-talk] Who is a good mapper? Who isn't?

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 11.10.2012 10:20, schrieb Kevin Peat: On 10 October 2012 21:22, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What are the results? ... The most common comment quality is 18. Half of all accounts have comment quality from 13 to 36. Bots usually have comment quality under one. Equating changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Stream (a.k.a. social OSM) - demo instance

2012-10-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Sounds promising, looks - well... unfortunately less promising ;) (Might be because of my settings). Error messages: - missing localization (well... okay, should ignore that, I think; but where can we submit missing ones? - Error: data is undefined. at the side pane as well as on the user

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Stream (a.k.a. social OSM) - demo instance

2012-10-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 15.10.2012 18:17, schrieb Paweł Paprota: When you zoom in to a small area there is indeed no activities in many places - there is only ~8000 activities in the database at this point, replication is still in progress. As for the translation - I have added an English one but for some reason it

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 13:45, schrieb sly (sylvain letuffe): Hi martin, please also see the other side's motivation: there is good reason not to put meta data into the main database but on a changeset level, You have to prove such a claim and then compare it to the bad reasons not to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 14:08, schrieb sly (sylvain letuffe): Hi Peter, To set these in josm use the corresponding tab in the upload dialog of JOSM. Sorry for beeing unclear, yes I know that, I was refering to the other way round. A way to automatically add changeset tags in JOSM, without I forgot, too

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 23:34, schrieb Jérome Armau: Keep in mind that we're trying to make the openstreetmap project accessible to a larger share of the population. In every single country, that means appealing to a non-computer-geek crowd. For example, the usage of -Djosm.home=dir is dark magic to

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators

2012-10-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
It's not directly against policy to store all of these in the OSM DB (without F), but it's kind of bad practice. You should ask yourself the following questions: - is the data more or less static (stays the same for a while)? - is it possible to describe species data as nodes, linestrings and

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [Mikel], Write a book micro on Google Map Maker for Packt Publishing

2012-10-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Unfortunately Packt Publishing already has one OSM book in their portfolio, else I would have suggested to offer them to do that as an alternative ;) No idea... IMHO that has to be your very own decision. regards Peter Am 26.10.2012 15:05, schrieb Mikel Maron: So gang, any suggestions

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI - OpenTripPlanner instance

2012-10-31 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Mike. Is it possible to add one of the public transport maps as a layer? I did not have much time now to test, but obviously I missed useful locations and got no trips planned because my end points aren't safe (only connected to highway or sth. like that). the public transport layer would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Abu Musa alignment

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Floris. The data is correct, but the outline of the island is part of the coastline and therefore updated only on manual request by someone in the admin team. Use the edit/show data (or sth. like that; I only have the German website here) on the website to check that. Usually this should

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 05.11.2012 16:42, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, I haven't read this thread in full but it has come to my attention that people in this thread have argued that it would be acceptable to use Google StreetView pictures when mapping. It is not. The legal situation may be debatable and

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
The difference is that for the satellite images we use we have a statement from the corresponding companies that allows us to do so. Yes, that's nothing 100 Lawyers looked over, but it's a permission we got, be it from microsoft and bing, from yahoo or from others. There is not yet anything

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. While I can see that there's the change from highway=bus_stop to public_transport=platform documented in the wiki, I did not follow that process when it happened, I think, but: How is the fact tagged that any particular platform is a bus stop, and not e.g. a tram platform? Do we really

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug fixes multilingual map

2012-12-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
...which does not interfere with the problem of delimiter chars being used in Jochens demo, your own map that uses the languages may use arbitrary delimiters, and in the existing demo there's no shortened name to be used - as name should contain the full, unshortened name. regards Peter Am

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 06.01.2013 16:11, schrieb Janko Mihelić: What about addr:interpolation? Do you count all the housenumbers in between, or only the ones on the ends? I think all should be counted. And not because I use those a lot :) -1 address interpolations are exactly that: interpolations. Often you find

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

2013-01-09 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 09.01.2013 10:42, schrieb Paweł Paprota: On 01/09/2013 03:05 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: My idea of dealing with this complex situation is to: This all sounds nice but has it been done on a scale that OSM needs it to work? Are there large projects that have this kind of organization that you

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

2013-01-09 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 09.01.2013 11:53, schrieb Paweł Paprota: On 01/09/2013 11:17 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote: OpenOffice, now part of Apache, is well known, sure - but I think, still more people know Microsoft Office than OpenOffice. I don't think ASF would be happy with you reducing them to OpenOffice

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Some remarks: 1) zooming in by double click should IMHO not trigger the bubble zoom in to... 2) the bubble with the pois is too high sometimes. It looks like it's size may be restricted to 100% of the window height, but that's too much as it requires panning the map to read everything

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Damn... Forgot to mention: great effort of course - but I tested first, wrote my results down and forgot to add the congratulation stuff before sending. regards Peter Am 21.01.2013 09:37, schrieb Roland Olbricht: Dear all, have you ever been annoyed that Mapnik doesn't render a name for a

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.01.2013 14:49, schrieb Roland Olbricht: Hello Peter, thank you for the feedback. I've moved all but 4) to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/POI_display to not loose the suggestions. 4) especially for POIs not displayed on the map it might be useful to show an additional icon, as

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.01.2013 14:44, schrieb Kevin Peat: As an extra feature, if an element has a tag value starting withhttp://;, the headline of the element gets a hyperlink to the URL written in this tag value. Would it be possible for the website tag to always be written as a link addinghttp:// if

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
. Nevertheless: great to know that something exists. regards Peter Am 21.01.2013 16:44, schrieb Paweł Paprota: On 01/21/2013 03:17 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote: A perfect solution here might be to extend Mapnik to report as additional meta data to a tile the objects rendered (and/or skipped) Mapnik has a grid

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.01.2013 22:42, schrieb Rovastar: What a great addition to the growing new tools/features to the OSM homepage. Fantastic work. In fact I am using the beta as my main map now. A couple of things. A)I having problems when selecting any (large) area. For example a stadium, park, shopping

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map mountain pass in Poltach 2

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 22.01.2013 07:34, schrieb Clifford Snow: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Tanveer Singh tanveer1...@gmail.com mailto:tanveer1...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking at some roads in the himalayas which pass through high mountain passes(marked by signboard). I want to select a

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 05.02.2013 08:15, schrieb Clifford Snow: Third parties bring unique value to OSM. However, is it inconceivable that we might be able to offer something more than just a database? For example funded Software development has been done by companies like CloudMade, MapQuest on a

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-13 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 13.02.2013 14:44, schrieb Hans Schmidt: Concerning tagging: I don’t think that there should be some special tag. The node which intersects both roads should just get a name property. JOSM displays the name there, and I think this is how it should be displayed on osm.org, too. Agreed for

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 15.02.2013 00:24, schrieb Andrew Errington: junction=crossroads would be fine, but it doesn't add any information. -1 Following the general approach to handle *=yes as kind of a fallback for cases where more detailled information is missing junction=crossroads in fact would add

Re: [OSM-talk] Revival: Multilingual Country-List

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.02.2013 12:20, schrieb Hans Schmidt: Am 21.02.2013 11:43, schrieb moltonel 3x Combo: So instead of saying that one may delete the name:xx tag if it is identical to the name tag (to reduce bloat, presumably), the multilingual-country-list should encourage to add the name:xx tag in all

Re: [OSM-talk] Revival: Multilingual Country-List

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.02.2013 13:01, schrieb Hans Schmidt: Am 21.02.2013 12:36, schrieb Peter Wendorff: Well... if there's no localized name tag, then you may omit the name:xx tag for that language, as there's no alternative. On the other hand name:de might be useful even then, as it's possible to translate

Re: [OSM-talk] Revival: Multilingual Country-List

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.02.2013 17:47, schrieb moltonel 3x Combo: [...] Besides, I actually think that adding the redundant name:XX tag is actually simpler than modifying the code of many renderers to take something completely new into account. On the other hand, it should be very easy to check that if a place

Re: [OSM-talk] Android routing application - With some level of OFFLINE address search

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 22.02.2013 11:17, schrieb Tanveer Singh: I have taken a look at ZaNavi OSMAND etc., on android. Most of these in offline mode offer only POI search. If I want to search for an address(need not be house numbers) and enter a road name, it usually does not work. Anybody has any success for

Re: [OSM-talk] Revival: Multilingual Country-List

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 22.02.2013 14:22, schrieb moltonel 3x Combo: On 22 February 2013 09:51, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Am 21.02.2013 17:47, schrieb moltonel 3x Combo: [...] Besides, I actually think that adding the redundant name:XX tag is actually simpler than modifying the code of many

Re: [OSM-talk] Comments On New Tile Layer Guideline Process

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
What about enhancing the layer list by a more... option. Showing the main map layers as usual by default, but adding a e.g. git or wiki based list of layers dynamically added if the user wants. this could be a drop down box (probably enhanced by some autocomplete functionality or sth. like

Re: [OSM-talk] MasterCity: Play with OpenStreetMap

2013-02-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Mario. I'm going to try it out, but during installation there are some remarks. Google Play shows ODBL as the privacy policy - which is wrong, I think. The German description sounds like it's not written by a native German speaker, it's bad German ;) I don't see the license of your

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

2013-02-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 25.02.2013 16:17, schrieb Markus Lindholm: On 25 February 2013 12:13, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think separating rock music venues and concert halls is a good idea. They are basically the same thing, a big room where music is played. I don't agree. For the same reason we

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

2013-02-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 26.02.2013 13:17, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/2/25 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Some stadiums nowadays are built with multiple usages in mind, e.g. the arena Auf Schalke of the German soccer club Schalke 04. Mainly a soccer stadium there have been events like Sensation

Re: [OSM-talk] Crossroad names

2013-03-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 24.03.2013 18:38, schrieb Hans Schmidt: Am 24.03.2013 17:59, schrieb Kevin Peat: On 24 March 2013 16:38, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: What makes you think money is the problem? Money could help to speed up the process by buying time which people may not be able to give as a

Re: [OSM-talk] Crossroad names

2013-03-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
I would propose to draw the intersection as an area in these cases, as the whole area, and not only the nodes of intersecting streets is named, I guess. regards Peter Am 26.03.2013 11:30, schrieb Vladimir Vyskocil: That's how it is I'm afraid, and that is a good example. I'd suggest that

[OSM-talk] GeoJSON and TileMill

2013-04-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. I want to do some maps in TileMill and have a question. As a data source for now I use GeoJSON exports from overpass-turbo, which looks fine so far. I can style that as long as I style everything (e.g. I exported all highway=* in my target area and I'm able to draw lines for all highways),

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Robert. Am 26.04.2013 09:44, schrieb Robert Banick: As a cartographic project, isn't the whole point of OSM visual? It seems a big contradictory to assert that a visual identifier for a mapping project is a poor idea. But OSM is not (only) a cartoGRAPHIC project, it's a geoDATA project. One

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoJSON and TileMill

2013-04-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Martin. Yes, thanks. Tried it out already (after getting similar information from your github comment, I think), and it works. great. Thanks Peter Am 29.04.2013 09:46, schrieb Martin Raifer: Peter Wendorff wrote: I want to do some maps in TileMill and have a question. As a data source

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
Do they have something like a persistent ID in wikidata, yet? Do you want to add dozens of wikidata-tags (or a comma separated value or something like that), if more than one wikidata-element matches the osm element. Let's see this example: A building that was a merchants kontor a few hundret

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 06.05.2013 20:26, schrieb Tobias Knerr: On 06.05.2013 18:54, Peter Wendorff wrote: [...] Let's see this example: A building that was a merchants kontor a few hundret years ago, and now contains a museum and a restaurant, while in between it was - let's say - a hospital). That's

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 06.05.2013 23:07, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: Hi, On 6 May 2013 21:20, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Am 06.05.2013 20:26, schrieb Tobias Knerr: On 06.05.2013 18:54, Peter Wendorff wrote: [...] Let's see this example: A building that was a merchants kontor a few

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
which is completely redundant to uid (which in turn needs another simple API to find out the current users display name). Yours, Stefan 2013/5/6 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Am 06.05.2013 23:07, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: Hi, On 6 May 2013 21:20, Peter Wendorff wendo

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 07.05.2013 00:47, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 06.05.2013 23:55, schrieb Peter Wendorff: Am 06.05.2013 23:07, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: If you're not adding those historical entities to OSM (or a similar database like that historical osm once discussed) then there's no issue with linking

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 07.05.2013 09:43, schrieb Stefan Keller: Hi, All use cases you describe are valid. It's up to the users of OSM permanent id to keep track of changing OSM ids - it's an offer of OSM. The only constraint I would propose is to avoid to delete and recreate a new id only because of a tool

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 07.05.2013 09:58, schrieb Stefan Keller: Hi, You wrote: - it's roughly in that bounding box (e.g. the city or a given part of A soon as you use the word roughly - the id approach is doomed to fail. According to OO and database technology an id is a well-defined surrogate with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Still need for spam protection and if yes, what about OSM-based CATPCHA?

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Stefan. OSM is not a graphics oriented project, it's a data oriented project. The graphics use case is the most common and therefore the first one widely used, but navigation is not graphics based, statistics are not graphics based, address search is not graphics based, and even maps exist

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
not delete the whole object and add a new object with the building tag alone, right? regards Peter Am 07.05.2013 10:25, schrieb Stefan Keller: 2013/5/7 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Look what happens in OSM all the time: POIs are moved slightly to match aerial images - following your

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 07.05.2013 12:56, schrieb Stefan Keller: 2013/5/7 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: you would not delete the whole object and add a new object with the building tag alone, right? I said that it's up to the mapper to decide - as its common in OSM. External services which link

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Wendorff
A fallback to flash is not the best option for mobiles without flash support, for operating systems without non-free software (like... flash). And: Flash often is a performance killer itself. Less for the single flash movie inside the browser, but for the overall operating system. This it not in

Re: [OSM-talk] source=Google

2013-05-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.05.2013 13:30, schrieb Richard Fairhurst: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: What do you propose to do with source tags found on an object when you modify this object based on a different source? OSM has full object history. :) ...which is an argument that the source may fit well on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Videos of State of the Map US are up!

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, video takes from conferences are great, thanks for that. Is it possible for anyone to fix bugs according the video editing? In Frederiks talk ( http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68087540 ) sometimes only the slides are shown, and whenever that's the case,

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on the OSM Wiki

2013-06-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 25.06.2013 19:57, schrieb Mulone Moligiangi: On 25/06/2013 17:22, Jonathan Bennett wrote: * What are you hoping to show with this survey? What use do you see this information being to the OSM community, and will they see the results? I'm working on the tagging process, trying to understand

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 20.07.2013 01:38, schrieb Dave F.: On 20/07/2013 00:22, Toby Murray wrote: You aren't in the #osm IRC channel, are you :) No. I can't stand the cliquey, unilateral time zone defined exclusion of that. I prefer to discuss with *all* in *all* timezones. A while back a decision was made to

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 20.07.2013 11:53, schrieb Maarten Deen: On 2013-07-20 10:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote: James Mast wrote: I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the long/short links to the map location behind buttons. Instead of just one click to get the map location, now it's two clicks and

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