Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com 2009/11/3 Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com: Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. +1

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread John Smith
2009/11/3 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/11/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com 2009/11/3 Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com: Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Gimp lets you plot freehand or if you hold shift will do a straight line, I'm sure there is a number of modifiers that would make a free hand mode useful... Gimp is a bitmap-based-programm. As I pointed out: nearly all vector-based programms

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread John Smith
2009/11/3 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/11/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Gimp lets you plot freehand or if you hold shift will do a straight line, I'm sure there is a number of modifiers that would make a free hand mode useful... Gimp is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. To everyone in this thread:

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:51:38 To: m...@koppenhoefer.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM 2009/11/3 Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-03 Thread Russ Nelson
John Smith writes: If you don't want to use such a features that's your pejorative, there is plenty of features I don't use in JOSM, but other people would like the option of being able to do this. Plugin. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nop wrote: It has been suggested several times, that the possibility to do this indirectly be removed from JOSM altogether and having corrected many bad direct uploads I am rather in favour of this. Potlatch enables you to convert a GPS track to a way by clicking Edit beside the track

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Nop
Hi! Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Potlatch enables you to convert a GPS track to a way by clicking Edit beside the track (in the GPS Traces listing), then selecting Convert track to ways when Potlatch loads. There is no option _not_ to simplify the track on import; it runs Douglas-Peucker

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Harris
-talk] Suggestion for JOSM 2009/11/2 Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com: I will leave this open to discussion but I thought it better to bring this to everybody's notice, so JOSM can be made more user friendly. You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread SLXViper
John Smith wrote: 2009/11/2 Dan Homerick danhomer...@gmail.com: Once the GPX layer is converted to an OSM layer, you can run Simplify Way on it to reduce the number of points to a reasonable number and frequency. It's available via the Tools menu once you have installed the 'utilsplugin'

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nop wrote: It is good that simplification is forced. But of course, it will still stupidly add a large zig-zag caused by bad reception to the map. (I have seen beginners manually add such zig-zags before they learn that GPS isn't perfect, but at least they usually learn) How does it take

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an interval of n seconds. Unlike Potlatch JOSM is a powertool. It shouldn't force you to do anything. Recently I traced

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an interval of n seconds. Unlike Potlatch JOSM is a powertool. It shouldn't force you

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Shalabh
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: I would have a bit more sympathy had I not, once again, spent a good while last night clearing up some ways, badly traced in JOSM with 45-degree angles all over the place. Had the mapper used a good GPX-simplified way

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net  wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I would commend this forced simplification to the JOSM devs. Ways are automatically split after an interval of n seconds. Unlike Potlatch JOSM is a powertool.

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: 1-8 should be made easy, but I disagree with you that JOSM should force some simplification process. I've already cited an example where this did more harm than good. Sure - you're spot on there and I can't argue with any of that. Probably provide a strong

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Celso González
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:59:10PM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I have nothing against good UI design which would make this sort of thing easy. Doing this in JOSM currently is much harder than it should be. What I usually do when I want to do this is: 1. Import the GPX track 2.

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2009/11/2 Celso González ce...@mitago.net: Instead using this workflow maybe its better to use the editgpx plugin 1. Import the GPX track 2. Use the editgpx plugin to clean it up 3. convert egpx to gpx 4. convert it to OSM and continue in 6. Merge to main datalayer Editgpx is a very bad

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM: simplify with gpsbabel

2009-11-02 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang
You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results, just right click on the layer, however it can be very tedious to remove points if they are once a second and all points are imported etc. Though i never used a gpx layer directly before (simply forgot about it), i

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Michael Barabanov
Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. Michael. On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:18:46PM +0530, Shalabh (shalab...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi Nop, thanks for your

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread John Smith
2009/11/3 Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com: Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. +1 ___ talk

[OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread Shalabh
I have been using JOSM for the last 2-3 months for making changes to OSM. A practical issue I see using JOSM is it shows the GPS trails as light red lines and then the user needs to draw nodes on those trails. Drawing these individual nodes, taking care that each curve on the road is taken care of

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com: I will leave this open to discussion but I thought it better to bring this to everybody's notice, so JOSM can be made more user friendly. You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results, just right click on the layer, however

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Dan Homerick danhomer...@gmail.com: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:56 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results, just right click on the layer, however it can be very tedious to remove points if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread Nop
Hi! Shalabh schrieb: Given my limited understanding of mapping and even more limited understanding of computing, I think it would be better if JOSM assumed the trails to be correct and drew nodes on it on its own. This is possible combining several features. However, it is a bad idea,

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread Shalabh
Hi Nop, thanks for your email. I take your point, it would be difficult to delete and then we would be purely depending on the mapper's diligence. So yeah, I think I would rather use the suggestions given by Dan than advocate an auto track feature. Regards, Shalabh On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:15