Steve Bennett wrote:
Interesting. What strikes me about the street names thing is that in
general, there's actually no way to prove it, other than by the
person's own admission. Whereas with copyright breach in general, you
can show a similarity between two expressions of an idea. But
John Smith wrote:
2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads today.
Normally it says "SW on Northern Road to Roundabout", followed by "2nd exit
on roundabout" or similar. but one part came out as ""SW on
One that amuses me often, is between Canberra and Batemans Bay. Theres
a small rural street which is shown as 'Black Sally Lane' on both
google, whereis and my Navman GPS, however OSM shows the name printed on
the street sign, which is 'Black Sallee Lane'.
David
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 23:41
2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
The roundabout was named as The Northern Road in the OSM data - the same
name as the road to the north and south of it.
I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are.
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2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
You're right, Steve, there is no way to prove it. What we need to be sure of
is that our own actions are ethical, and in the spirit of OSM. I do use a
street directory, along with some online sources, to verify street names, or
to check spelling. I
John Smith wrote:
2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
The roundabout was named as "The Northern Road" in the OSM data - the same
name as the road to the north and south of it.
I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are.
It's not
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote:
You're right, Steve, there is no way to prove it. What we need to be sure
of is that our own actions are ethical, and in the spirit of OSM. I *do*use a
street directory, along with some online sources, to verify street
I've created an entry on the default access restrictions wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Australia
Now we can debate each line:
=== Motorway===
I left this as default. In Australia, some freeways allow bikes and farm
machinery, some don't.
2010/1/6 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I've created an entry on the default access restrictions wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Australia
Now we can debate each line:
===Trunk===
Default. Ok?
There are some trunk roads in Perth
David Murn wrote:
One that amuses me often, is between Canberra and Batemans Bay. Theres
a small rural street which is shown as 'Black Sally Lane' on both
google, whereis and my Navman GPS, however OSM shows the name printed on
the street sign, which is 'Black Sallee Lane'.
Both are accepted
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Steve Bennett wrote:
===Footway==
Now, bicycles aren't allowed on footpaths - ie, the path that runs along
the side of the road. But they're generally allowed on most other paths,
like into or through parks, around sports grounds etc. So I propose
foot=designated
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
===Cycleway===
I would say shared use paths vastly outnumber bike-only paths, so I propose
bicycle=designated foot=designated. Horse...no? Paths that allow horses,
like rail trails, aren't too rare, but can be catered
Hi,
Great maps ! Although the Armidale map shows street names and the Carnarvon
one doesn't
regards
Darylr
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:17 AM, James Andrewartha
tr...@student.uwa.edu.auwrote:
===Bridleway===
I would have said we don't have these, except I think I found one on the
outskirts of the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. With the tiny bit of
traffic
they must receive, I can't imagine that
2010/1/7 dar...@tpg.com.au:
Hi,
Great maps ! Although the Armidale map shows street names and the Carnarvon
one doesn't
Carnarvon was only mapped from imagery, and I don't think anyone has
attempted to contact the local council to get names, or driven through
the town to obtain them
2010/1/7 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
===Footway==
Now, bicycles aren't allowed on *footpaths* - ie, the path that runs along
the side of the road. But they're generally allowed on most other paths,
like into or
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote:
Why? Just because you happen to live in a state where that happens to
be the case, doesn't mean I do. If I tagged a footpath, I would expect
bikes ARE allowed by default, because they are here. Setting defaults
for this is going to be
David Murn wrote:
Im fairly sure ACT law doesnt allow riding on footpaths, only designated
bicycle paths.
All footpaths are shared paths (foot and bicycle traffic) in the ACT.
John
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Nope. See this:
http://www.netspeed.com.au/cr/bicycle/features/footpath.htm
in particular:
LEGISLATION
Legal authority to enable cyclists to use all footpaths was provided
in a 1974 amendment of the ACT Traffic Act 1937 (2), which stated
that:
A person shall not - ...drive, ride or wheel a
2010/1/7 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au:
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote:
From a quick skim of the wiki, it seems that 'bicycle=yes' means that
bicycles are allowed on the way, where 'bicycle=designated' means the
bike has right of way. Bikes have right of way on
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
This was my basic understanding as well, which is why I get confused
when I see people talking about marking paths with stuff like
bicycle=designated and foot=designated. They can't both have right of
way.
Are you
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/1/7 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au:
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote:
From a quick skim of the wiki, it seems that 'bicycle=yes' means that
bicycles are allowed on the way, where
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