On 31 March 2012 01:54, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Australian Decliners,
As a mapper, contributor and member of the project's sysadmin team I
kindly ask you to please reconsider your declined status. Time is
about to run out.
You and others didn't care about us, told us
On 31 October 2011 14:44, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Are you suggesting that data.gov.au aren't aware of their own license
terms or that they are acting outside of their terms? What evidence
to you provide to support your accusations?
A non-trivial amount of data is listed as
On 31 October 2011 12:30, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
I think that data.gov.au can be taken at their word and that they have
a clear understanding of which rights they may or may not grant.
They're a clearing house, nothing more, and don't own any of the content.
On 31 October 2011 13:10, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
And still, they'd know what they may and may not permit.
You haven't dealt with government plebs much have you?
They are one of the most unpleasant races in the galaxy. Not actually
evil, but bad-tempered, bureaucratic, officious,
On 25 September 2011 15:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Secondly, With the greatest respect to the user concerned, who has been a
great contributor to OSM, I don't think we need necessarily respect his
wishes. We need to look a bit more carefully at this area to see if
anything
On 8 September 2011 10:48, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
Quoting Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com:
I'm sure we are interested in the history of the development of the
road network, but I'm not sure our database is the place for the
information right now.
For those interested, a
On 7 September 2011 16:31, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote:
The Princes Highway is an historical curiosity, and internal name management
name assigned by the NSW roads authority, and the name of a bunch of roads
between Sydney and Adelaide.
It isn't a route any longer.
It's still a
On 7 September 2011 15:49, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote:
I write I just have something against this relation, because it is
arbitrary and confusing
and you write So your entire argument is that we should delete the whole
route because it isn't contiguous?
Most routes are arbitrary
On 7 September 2011 15:19, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote:
Nah, that is all good to me. I've got nothing against relations. Nothing
against routes. Nothing against multiple relations and multiple routes. In
fact, I'd have nothing against a parent relation that linked the sections of
On 7 September 2011 13:09, Christopher Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm in Charleville, Qld for a couple of days with an iPhone, a garmin oregon
GPS and, from tomorrow, a vehicle.
The place is pretty much unsurveyed, but the DCDB has been used to add
streets so the road geometry is
On 6 September 2011 13:26, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Nearmap is no longer an acceptable source for OSM, since they do not allow
traces from their imagery to be re-licensed. I notice at least one of your
edits sourced nearmap, and that isn't allowed any more. If you were using
On 6 September 2011 12:50, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
This document tells which roads are RTA funded, and which are local roads,
and does have a Princes Hwy route for the purposes of funding. However, I
really believe we should stick to mapping what is on the ground, else we are
On 6 September 2011 12:20, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
According to Wikipedia, it should extend all the way from Adelaide to Sydney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_Highway
If memory serves correctly, it changes name through Melbourne.
On 6 September 2011 07:13, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:
In general I think it is common that a highway has a different name when it
goes through a town. Here the route continues, and will often be signposted
with the route number.
I'm not sure if that is the case for every road in
On 7 September 2011 12:27, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Princes Highway is part of route 1.
This isn't helpful. National Route 1 and the Princes Hwy diverge at many
points. National Route 1 follows the Southern Freeway south from Sydney for
a start.
So what, how does that make
On 11 July 2011 19:04, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
they don't have to be the same licence. That unambiguously works with ODbL
(4.5a): whether it works with CC is a moot point because CC is unclear for
data licensing, but it's likely that it does (after all, there are
Well if
On 11 July 2011 19:29, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
It's not using it under a licence other than CC-BY-SA. A Collective
Database or Collective Work means that the ODbL part of it is under ODbL
and the CC-BY-SA part is under CC-BY-SA. This is the very first clause (1a)
of
On 11 July 2011 19:55, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can
upload to OSM.
All we have is SteveC's word that this is what happened, to the best
of my knowledge Bing themselves near released anything definitive on
On 11 July 2011 20:05, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
What he's saying is there is no requirement under Australian Copyright
law (or CC licence) for a whole compilation/database/document to have
the same licence. It's the same way the Government can use Creative
Commons for
On 11 July 2011 20:53, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote:
On 11/07/2011, at 8:47 PM, John Smith wrote:
Then why was there such a big fuss made over Haiti edits should be PD
so that the UN could mix the data with other datasets...
Because they were mixing the datasets. If you do
On 11 July 2011 00:02, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Germany 90.1%
Great Britain 89.1%
France 96.8%
North America 96.4%
Russia 97.2%
Australia 48.4%
You didn't show Albania which has an even low acceptance rate, nor did
you comment
On 11 July 2011 07:54, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Indeed, I was concentrating on the big guys. Albania isn't a big guy. Not
sure what your point is about imports but neither GB nor Germany have
particularly significant numbers of imports - the only major import we've
ever
On 11 July 2011 08:16, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Can we not - both sides - agree to work on building up our own projects, and
making them as attractive as possible to users old and new, rather than
knocking the other one?
But my comment before sets the scene for how OSM-F
On 11 July 2011 11:55, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
We looked around for all the people claiming that we've been ignoring them
and can't actually find any posts by them on the legal lists or to the LWG
for many of the people involved. Of course, with so many fake names being
used
On 11 July 2011 12:30, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
It's not worth my time responding to messages like this.
I wrote a completely rational, neutral and open email outlining the things
we've tried and asking for ideas of how to make it better.
Yes and didn't respond to a single
On 11 July 2011 12:42, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:34 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 11 July 2011 12:30, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
It's not worth my time responding to messages like this.
I wrote a completely rational, neutral and open email outlining
On 11 July 2011 14:53, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
Can we make a list of real issues to be resolved and stick with them. There
are some issues that wont be resolved, such as hurt feelings and lost trust.
But we dont need to have a fight to the death over them.
I'd like
On 11 July 2011 15:09, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark wrote
Out of interest - the greatest contributor to Australia-Oceania
according to http://odbl.de/australia-oceania.html is the accound used
for the suburb boundary / postcode boundary import. Once this is
excluded, does
On 11 July 2011 15:19, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
That takes care of ways, but what about the 1.7million nodes attributed to me?
Sorry, that was total objects, only a pitiful 437k nodes.
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On 8 July 2011 16:18, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
It's been pointed out that I'm not replying to hundreds of messages from
John Smith, Anthony and friends.
I don't see them as they're automatically deleted. I find life is better
without having the trolls fill my inbox.
However
On 8 July 2011 00:55, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote:
We've gone to insanely long lengths to make that the case, including getting
clarifications from Ordnance Survey, Nearmap and many others. As far as I'm
aware there are no remaining issues as to why you can't click 'accept'.
He said
On 8 July 2011 06:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
What particularly turns me off fosm.org is that I am unable to see a map
when I go to the site. Using Firefox on Linux, I click on Maps and get
FOSM based tiles are being uploaded to archive.org:
On 8 July 2011 13:26, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at
What about the 50 odd percent of people that haven't responded?
I don't see how it's reasonable to throw everything away for one guy who
doesn't like his countries laws.
So
On 8 July 2011 13:54, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
I would phrase it that the vast majority aren't lawyers and don't want to
become one, therefore don't know the implications of the problems with cc.
It's a false assumption, the only way it would be geo factual data is
if you copied 1:1
On 8 July 2011 14:06, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Actually, the license process has been known about for a long, long time so
it's not this new turnaround you cast it as. In addition, everyone else
(bing, ordnance survey...) has worked with us very reasonably. In fact it's
hard to say
On 8 July 2011 14:06, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
As for this 'uk mob' thing, that too is unreasonable. As a democratically
elected board, we have members from many countries and you are invited to get
involved or run for election.
Is it true that you had to do a lot of rule fiddling so
On 6 July 2011 22:35, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote:
I'd like to think all this rather dull licence bickering will play out
and OSM will continue and strengthen. It's sad that people with
agendas are talking up the 'possible' deletion of data, and rushing
off to fork. That energy
On 7 July 2011 07:54, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
How could I add CC-BY-SA derived data if I use GPS traces, audio recordings
of names, or imagery like Yahoo or Bing? The only way I could see this
happening would be if I was to deliberately go out of my way to add a
Actually it's
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Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Multiple license declaration
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Hi all,
I wanted to create a way for individual users to
For the longest time it was claimed ODBL would better protect data
than CC-by-SA in some jurisdictions, with the US being one of those.
However the opposite seems true, since the above claim was based on
the premise that creating maps wasn't a creative enterprise.
The ODBL doesn't place a limit
On 19 June 2011 19:32, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
Some of these boundaries have been edited to include highway=* and
waterway=* tags (mainly in areas with (at the time) no good imagery). How
easy is it to get a list of these ways? Now that better imagery is
available, now would
Forgot to mention that SVG files are most likely produced works, even
those they aren't raster images, so converting to SVG and then back to
map data would potentially be pretty trivial.
In other words CC-by-SA protects data better than ODBL.
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On 20 June 2011 00:55, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
If however on the other hand if someone created an SVG file specially
for the purpose of extracted OSM data and tags, it would be extremely
difficult for them to argue that is a produced work and not a
database.
That's
What does it matter since I'm never going to agree to the CT...
On 20 June 2011 02:11, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
JohnSmith your four changesets today are missing descriptive
changeset comments.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JohnSmith/edits
The barrier here
On 20 June 2011 03:12, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
I am sure theortical (and legally risky) loopholes could be found for
example as you describe above. We could have contructed painfully
A simple admission that the previous email is a valid argument would
have sufficed
We
On 20 June 2011 14:49, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
Maybe Richard should have asked him privately first - I was mainly
responding to John's attitude that it didn't matter.
Well, what does it matter now that they're going to start deleting non-CT data?
Obviously there had to be
On 17 June 2011 18:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:42 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
That is the reason why very little effort has been expended mapping
Australia lately, until we know what skeleton of data we'll have left to
work with
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Date: 17 June 2011 07:09
Subject: [OSM-talk] Bing aerial imagery priorities
To: t...@openstreetmap.org
Hi
I'm speaking personally and there are no guarantees here but I'd like
to get input on what areas you would like
On 16 June 2011 15:01, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for all the comments, I think I'll hold off. It does seem
unfortunate that there is no basic work-flow to convert a boundary into
a relation containing the ways that make it up. From what you've said
Nick merging nodes
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Date: 15 June 2011 06:30
Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license
change process
To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org
As per the implementation plan [1],
On 15 June 2011 12:16, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been working on my suburb (Brunswick East), and keep coming across
tangled messes of ways caused by the boundary data effectively floating
above different ways. Roads are being connected to the boundary instead
of the
Earlier this week 4000 academic books were released for free,
apparently there is quite a lot of GIS books in the mix:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/slashgeo/~3/j318KMk-yGU/Hundreds-Free-Geospatial-PDF-Books-National-Academies-Press
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From: Bruce Bannerman b.banner...@bom.gov.au
Date: 26 May 2011 15:26
Subject: [Aust-NZ] Open public sector information principles launched
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
To: OSGeo NZ/AU aust...@lists.osgeo.org
Fyi
CWmike writes As the 2010 U.S. census results arrived, Los Angeles
County's politicians started ramping up for redistricting — the
once-a-decade, computing-intensive, often contentious process of
geographically carving up the populace into discrete parcels of
voters. In the past, such decisions
There is Bing imagery covering Kempsey, but a distinct lack of
mapping, or was before I started adding them, but still plenty to do.
I mentioned Tamworth a few weeks ago and within a day or so it had
been mapped out extensively from Bing imagery.
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Over the past few days I've been documenting the exact steps needed to
setup, run and maintain your own map rendering system. If the area is
small enough you can even do it in a virtual machine, and a vmware
image will be published at some point so all you need to do is
download, run and tell it
An anonymous reader writes So you have a RC model aircraft snapping
digital photos from the air, but how do you organize them all? This
cheap cloud service from a European research giant will upload your
photos and automatically convert them into 3D models you can navigate
like a video game. And
On 21 May 2011 16:08, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote:
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 May 2011 13:52, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Forums (IMO) are much superior to mailing lists for one simple reason
If the forum software is a threaded one
On 21 May 2011 16:11, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
If people want to use a forum like interface, gmane.org does that I believe.
Actually gmane.org does a few different options, include a blog like
interface...
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.au
On 21 May 2011 13:52, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Forums (IMO) are much superior to mailing lists for one simple reason
If the forum software is a threaded one then it is really easy to avoid
reading any drivel from the trolls. You just ignore the whole thread if the
troll
On 18 May 2011 22:56, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my own
wiki page, which I can no longer edit, after I left a note asking
people not to edit my wiki page.
What bollocks. I added a notice to the *discussion
On 18 May 2011 23:12, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
On 18 May 2011 14:02, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 May 2011 22:56, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my own
wiki page, which I
It seems if you are on the wining side of an argument you end up
blocked, so I'm most likely going to start an aussie wiki and not care
about the official wiki
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Sugar coat it all you want, but what action did you take against
anyone else involved?
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On 18 May 2011 06:38, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Set of rules made by one group, complaints handled by same group,
prosecution handled by same group, judgement made by same group,
punishment handled by same group.
Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my
On 13 May 2011 15:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
That's before you consider the resolution, it's so high that railway
lines and switching tracks are mapped so accurately people were
suggesting to those
On 9 May 2011 01:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
These current edits are of value to OSM, newly developed roads in
developing suburbs ('some of which already have people living on them').
How can newly developed roads be mapped from Bing?
On 8 May 2011 17:47, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2011 10:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 21:22 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote:
Unfortunately this has meant that Canberra OSM data is now badly out
of date. I have recently heard
On 5 May 2011 10:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 21:22 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote:
Unfortunately this has meant that Canberra OSM data is now badly out
of date. I have recently heard of a situation where up-to-date
Canberra data could have been *extremely*
On 8 May 2011 21:41, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
As usual - non trolls are welcome to let me know if I've missed anything (or
made some mistakes).
So people asking difficult, but honest questions are labelled trolls
so you don't have to answer?
All this looks like is vandalism
The south bank of the main stream of the Murray River is the NSW/Vic
border, but does anyone know where the NSW border lies with respect
the MacIntyre River?
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On 9 May 2011 13:39, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
I'd say the centre of the main channel as the only sign I've ever seen there
is half way across a bridge.
The bridge at Texas has the sign on the southern side of the bridge,
but the 'Welcome to Qld/NSW' sign is on the northern side.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/08/tom_tom_oz_data_to_cops/
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From: Alister Hood alister.h...@synergine.com
Date: 5 May 2011 11:58
Subject: [Aust-NZ] LINZ survey
To: OSGeo NZ/AU aust...@lists.osgeo.org, nzopen...@googlegroups.com
Hi everyone,
First, apologies if you get this twice because you’re on both lists.
I
It's such a shame that your high regard for diverse opinions only seem
to matter if they match yours.
On 5/4/11, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 May 2011 20:40, Tim Challis tim.chal...@gmail.com wrote:
Sarcasm aside. I am quite happy to go along with Liz' pronunciations to
date.
On 2 May 2011 22:03, Ian Callahan igcalla...@gmail.com wrote:
Those pushing for changes might have expected things to result in a
fork as a result of what's happened but that isn't what has happened,
instead the OSM community are on the verge of splintering into many
various projects
The NSW Dept of Lands seems to have quite a lot of aerial imagery
(http://lite.maps.nsw.gov.au/), in their terms of use all
copyrightable material is for personal or non-comercial use only, but
doesn't seem to cover deriving data from their imagery, and what can
be done with it afterwards.
Does
On 30 April 2011 20:09, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
PS - tomorrow I will find out all the ways in Canberra that I had to fix
using nearmap, and replace them using compliant Bing imagery
So you wiped out perfectly good map data for sub-standard data?
On 23 April 2011 19:43, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
any one have any thoughts on what to tag a location famous for 2
reasons, first it was a spot cobb co got held up by thunderbolt,
secondly because someone did a painting of the event:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailed_Up
On 27 April 2011 14:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
*sarcasm* But it all doesn't matter anyway, John Smith has degreed
that all Australian geodata is PD anyway. See:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2011-April/007829.html
A lot of people do take this issue
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/26/china_street_view_licences/
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On 27 April 2011 04:15, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
But I thought that Nearmap has said that they did not think the CT's were
compatible with the use of their data. As I understood it this had nothing
to do with CC-BY-SA or ODbL.
So the issue as I understand it is the CT's,
On 27 April 2011 07:06, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Bluntly,
CC-by-SA for geodata is fine here. It's good enough for our government,
it's good enough for us. (Au government now is using CC-by for data).
We believe in Share-Alike. Actually, we have been brought up to believe
in
In the last few days people have posted numerous diary entries about
being unaware about the up coming changes.
I am only surprised about how poorly things have been communicated
with mappers, the replies to the posts are typical responses that try
to confuse the issue.
Once upon a time it used to be almost a race to map out new areas from
Nearmap coverage, now whole areas of coverage go untouched for months
or longer...
What was once a source of pride in the community can now only be
described as a 'tragedy of the commons' now that the death knell is
being
On 25 April 2011 08:26, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
Once fosm gets a tile server (even a third party one) I'll probably
switch. In the meantime I thought osm edits were mirrored across to
fosm (though the more fosm gets edited, there will be merge edits,
which I'm not sure
Same thing in the UK with OS data, it becomes free but requires
attribution and OSM-F turns round and says that's great and all, but
we want it with no strings now.
On 4/25/11, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net
On 22 April 2011 18:35, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been rereading the wiki entry. Is it proposing a structure in
which each transponder is first created as a node labeled
man_made=communications_transponder each with all their details. Than
they are grouped as a
On 16 April 2011 15:56, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:21:59 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
An Australian Bureau of Statistics initiative to help drive
collaboration between students, developers and national and
international statistical
An Australian Bureau of Statistics initiative to help drive
collaboration between students, developers and national and
international statistical agencies.
http://data.gov.au/2770/contest-abs-codeplay/
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From: Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
Date: 13 April 2011 04:56
Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement
To: OSM talk t...@openstreetmap.org
This is to let you know the license change process is moving to Phase
3 [1] very
On 16 August 2010 09:30, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Newish TV show, K-9, which seems to be a kids spin off from the K-9
dog that used to be on Doctor Who a couple of decades ago, in any case
a map flashed up and I instantly recognised it as OSM map tiles...
You can see
I thought I'd share something I realised today when I went out for a
Sunday ride.
Having accurate maps isn't just good for navigation purposes, but it's
almost borders on a safety aspect since knowing how sharp and the
location of upcoming bends allows you to be more prepared and at some
points
On 11 April 2011 13:45, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Create a new account, accept the CT's and then
Has the CTs been updated to allow for this, or do they still refer to
a natural person?
Also that doesn't help if someone only wishes to support projects
using share a like
On 9 April 2011 18:22, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to map some named reaches (straight portion of a stream
or river, as from one turn to another;) part of a major river.
To do this I would shift the river specific information to a relation,
which is useful in any
On 9 April 2011 09:09, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 April 2011 20:47, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 April 2011 16:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Despite your attempts to sidetrack this discussion from the your data
import to some wider OSM
On 10 April 2011 15:29, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
At the moment I'm tending to fosm.org as it seems the most compatible with
what I've been doing.
Having said that I'm still watching commonmap.org etc as well.
Well from a license point of view, all commonmap data should be usable
On 8 April 2011 15:57, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 April 2011 15:34, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Please list sources for this comment, because as far as I understand
it there is no further appeals on the matter currently pending.
http://www.smh.com.au/business
On 8 April 2011 16:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
John - if you are going to argue this, please check your references
more carefully.
As I stated before I wasn't aware that the appeal was being appealed,
although your link does suggest they had 30 days to do something, and
were
On 8 April 2011 20:47, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 April 2011 16:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Despite your attempts to sidetrack this discussion from the your data
import to some wider OSM licencing issue, I won't be sidetracked here.
The problem is no one
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