Re: [Talk-GB] Naptan Imports

2011-11-24 Thread Andy Allan
On 24 November 2011 00:17, Peter J Stoner stone...@mytraveline.info wrote: I am surprised if you say that in OSM a Custom and Practice (CUS) stop would not be coded as highway=bus_stop, as in public transport terms it is recognised as the location of a bus stop, even though there is not a

[Talk-GB] Beta test of cycling date merge-tool

2011-11-16 Thread Andy Allan
Hi All, I previously discussed[1] what our plans were with regards to the cycling data that is coming out of the DfT. It's now got to the stage where I'm soliciting beta testing and feedback on the approach. The project has its own page on the wiki at

Re: [Talk-GB] Beta test of cycling date merge-tool

2011-11-16 Thread Andy Allan
On 16 November 2011 14:08, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote: Just had a quick look at the Nottingham one - seams to be an even bigger work of fiction than the local cycle maps produced by the council (unless council publications override public footpath signs) - one jumping out straight

Re: [Talk-GB] Beta test of cycling date merge-tool

2011-11-16 Thread Andy Allan
On 16 November 2011 11:52, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, Just some observations from Birmingham that may be useful. I'm assuming that you have been able to look at the dft data to see how relevant it is? I haven't seen any of the data for any place that I'm personally

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-08 Thread Andy Allan
On 7 November 2011 16:58, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: Generally you shouldn't consider any performance implications when creating a tag, because you don't know what will change in the next version of the code. Very true. The

[Talk-GB] New datasets being released by the DfT

2011-10-25 Thread Andy Allan
Some of you might have seen mention of new datasets being released (today, apparently, but I can't find them yet) by the DfT http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8844733/Publishing-road-works-cycle-routes-and-car-parking-data-will-finally-get-Britain-moving.html Obviously my main interest is

Re: [Talk-GB] New datasets being released by the DfT

2011-10-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I'm aware of. From the ones I've seen so far, the geocoding isn't exactly great for them, so I suspect they've been geocoded using the address or postcode. Gah, now that I look at the actual carpark data

Re: [Talk-GB] New datasets being released by the DfT

2011-10-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I'm aware of. From the ones I've seen so far, the geocoding isn't exactly great for them, so I suspect they've been geocoded using

Re: [Talk-GB] New datasets being released by the DfT

2011-10-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I've been working on some features in Potlatch 2 so that we can inspect, consider and merge the cycling data attributes into OSM on a street-by-street basis. I've just been looking at the cycle data. While the dataset is

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] OSM talk at ShropGeek, Shrewsbury, 26 Sept

2011-08-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Hi folks, I'm visiting my friends at ShropGeek, in Shrewsbury, on 26 September to talk about OSM and demonstrate the use of JOSM:    http://osmshrewssep11.eventbrite.com/ While it may not be something for those

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM talk at ShropGeek, Shrewsbury, 26 Sept

2011-08-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Hi folks, I'm visiting my friends at ShropGeek, in Shrewsbury, on 26 September to talk about OSM and demonstrate the use of JOSM:    http://osmshrewssep11.eventbrite.com/ While it may not be something for those

Re: [Talk-GB] More UK transport data being opened up

2011-07-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote: All remaining Government-owned free datsets from Transport Direct, including cycle route data There's already work going on behind-the-scenes with this - there's a lot of interesting data that's been collected that I reckon

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: In order to get  a better level of completeness in the UK what we need are more mappers. Absolutely. Everything we do should be focussed on helping get more mappers, or helping the mappers we have get their

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Different sources are complementary to each other and should not be viewed as alternatives.  Even with 'classic OSM' we had Yahoo tracing combined with foot surveys. Yahoo!? Classic? Get off my lawn! :-) Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Road route relations in the UK

2011-06-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 2) Why the need for even one?  After all, the ref tag on all the component parts of the A1 should identify them without the need for a relation. True. A relation should only be needed if a stretch of road is shared by

Re: [Talk-GB] Help: Conflict not resolving in Potlatch 2

2011-05-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Stewart gra...@dalmuti.net wrote: Please excuse the slight off-topic, but I've spent the morning doing some Bing/OS_OpenData armchair mapping around Amble in Alnwick and Potlatch is refusing to save my changes. I get a message saying:  An item you

Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Pharmacy, OSM Validation

2011-05-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:33 PM, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: Any comments? I think this approach of dealing with external datasets (compare with OSM, matching, and informing mappers of discrepancies) is the right direction - see also the Bike Shop Locator [1] that Shaun and I put

Re: [Talk-GB] New National Cycle Network route 31

2011-05-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Borbus bor...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads up to any cycling mappers in the East of England.  NCN route 31 between Beccles and Southwold has recently been opened and hasn't been mapped yet. See:

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads

2011-05-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: My idea at the moment is that the existing ref tag be unambiguously defined to be a kind of primary key and to have alternative tagging for its apparent value. I expect this may also be the case with road names, and

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads

2011-05-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: That way, renderers and routers could choose not to show refs which aren't helpful for their audience. Something like ref:signed=no would work. Any thoughts? Personally, if it's not signed, known, called or

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Peter Oliver p.d.oli...@mavit.org.uk wrote: It seems like I'm now armed with enough knowledge to get stuck in and start mapping some footpaths, using whichever tagging method I happen to prefer.  However, both Mapnik and Osmarender display these two supposedly

Re: [Talk-GB] National Byway rendering on OpenCycleMap

2011-04-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:22 PM, monxton gm...@jordan-maynard.org wrote: So I hope his sense of humour is robust enough for me to mention that it's 3.5 years since since the schedule for rendering the National Byway was this week. eeek! Let's face it though, in the face of trying to keep

Re: [Talk-GB] National Byway rendering on OpenCycleMap

2011-04-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I think the root (route?) problem is that we're tagging everything as networks even if they're not. I've been as guilty as anyone of this: when I mapped the Four Castles Cycle Route around Abergavenny, I tagged it

[Talk-GB] Things that aren't stations tagged railway=station

2011-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
Hi All, In making my recent transport map[1] I've found there's a (relatively) large number of nodes in the UK tagged railway=station, when they aren't stations (and often aren't any railways there, either). I'm proposing that we don't tag former, disused or fictional stations in a way that

Re: [Talk-GB] Sorting out layering in East Anglia, Essex, London and Kent

2011-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Andy Allan just asked me a question privately about changes I have made to layers in Wandsworth which has prompted me to do a post here saying what I have been up in order to rationalise use of the layers in East

Re: [Talk-GB] Sorting out layering in East Anglia, Essex, London and Kent

2011-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: On 19 April 2011 15:50, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming his map layers view has some logic that layers tags only apply to ways that cross but I don't believe that to be true. Actually, that's

Re: [Talk-GB] [Potlatch-dev] OS 1:25k Layer in Potlatch 2

2011-04-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Steve wrote: Is this working? I just noticed that, for Meopham in Kent, I can view the 1:25k OS map as a background in Potlatch 1, but nothing displays in Potlatch 2. It looks like Potlatch 1 is loading .jpg and Potlatch 2

Re: [Talk-GB] Codepoint duplicates

2011-03-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 20/03/11 22:20, Matt Williams wrote: Ahh, looking at the map [2] it seems that they are all located at the Royal Mail distribution office. My question still stands though: are these just surplus postcodes or some error?

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: You should note that PotLatch2 uses the space version when using the 'simple' interface. (What's with the L?) And anyone who uses PotLatch will be increasing the preponderance of the '30 mph' version. All I ask

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: I really don't understand why you keep arguing against the sequence of a) send some mappers out then b) use OS as a check for the minority of mistakes. Doing it your way leads to vast areas with names filled out

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: It is great to do a ground survey and then use OS Locator to check for mistakes, but it would be equally possible to populate names from OS Locator and then do a ground survey to check for mistakes. Rhhhttt - that's

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: I have been asked by editor of the Cartographic Journal to write a short piece on the effect of the release of OS OpenData on the OpenStreetMap project, and I am just trying to gather my thoughts, and make sure I

Re: [Talk-GB] OS, OSM and field boundaries

2011-03-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Steve Doerr steve.do...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Field boundaries can be traced from Bing? A lot of work though. Depends on how many mappers we have ;-) When we find out how to treble the number of people mapping in the UK, most of our external-dataset-needs would

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Steve Doerr steve.do...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 11/03/2011 13:39, Dave F. wrote: IMO the *vast* majority of problems that came from bulk importing arose due to the incompetence of the importers, *not* the value of the data. If the imports are done in

Re: [Talk-GB] Viability of huge shapefile of LandForm Panorama contours in Mapnik?

2011-03-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Phil Endecott spam_from_os...@chezphil.org wrote: One issue that I would like to look at at some point is how to heal the contours. Why not generate contours from the DTM using e.g. gdal_contour? Or are the contours at a significantly different precision from

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and hopefully more to come) applications written by people all round the world. Country-specific tagging guidelines make it more difficult to share

Re: [Talk-GB] Address information in MapDust bugs

2011-02-24 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: , along with excessive noise, Just for interest's sake, I'll point out that the MapDust API now exposes an is default description flag, allowing them to be filtered out if they don't contain personalised

Re: [Talk-GB] 'Easy' Speciality Map Rendering

2011-02-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: I have put some thoughts on what this system would look like on my OSM user page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Grahamjones#Speciality_Maps). My question is whether many people would find this useful?   Or

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: Even if Mapnik doesn't like semicolons, Urggh, *I* don't like semi-colons, and I'd suggest that any solutions involving them are simply workarounds! Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: ITO have been offering a service to compare osm road names with os locator road names for a while now[1]  which has encouraged a lot of activity - and has even led to Andy to obsession.[2] I have also suffered from a

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: This started over Xmas I decided to experimented using Potlatch 2, OS Open Data and Bing aerial to map a completely unmapped town (Lakenheath) to OSM as far as I could without visting the place. It worked very well

Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land

2011-01-31 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Black andrewdbl...@googlemail.com wrote: On 29 January 2011 17:40, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: Not open, but available at magic.defra.co.uk: http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?dataset=24

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME and incorrect tags

2011-01-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, James Davis jam...@jml.net wrote: I've come across a few combinations recently of ways being tagged 'foo=bar;fixme=foo is wrong, please check'. If you know that the foo tag is definitely incorrect; isn't it better to remove it completely? Not in every case.

[Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap promotional leaflets

2010-11-25 Thread Andy Allan
Hi All, Promotional leaflets! For Free! You don't even need to pay postage! I have here under my desk thousands (~9,450 remaining) of promotional flyers that Frederik has designed and got printed, for use at meetups, conferences and generally handing out to potential new recruits. They are A7

Re: [Talk-GB] natural=tree

2010-11-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Andrew Ainsworth andrew.ainswo...@gmail.com wrote: I've just noticed that every tree has been edited by a bot recently, adding tags such as denotation=cluster and fixme=set better denotation? What a stupid thing to do (and denotation is a stupid word to use

Re: [Talk-GB] County boundaries

2010-11-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: As for the place nodes representing the centre of counties, can these be removed now we have the borders? Yes, please. Such nodes are an abomination! Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Visualising speed limits

2010-11-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 29/10/2010 22:22, thomas van der veen wrote: You might like to take note that nothing is implicit in OSM. There are no defaults as renderers or other consumers of the map data are unconstrained as to how they handle

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Bike Shop dataset obtained: please merge in locations in your area

2010-09-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Graham Stewart gra...@dalmuti.net wrote: For example I'd previously added the Evans Cycles at the Metrocentre (near Newcastle) as a building (closed way). Tags: building=yes, name=Evans Cycles, shop=bicycle

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Opendata amp;amp; the new license/CT

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: So the question is then whether the OS has given 'explicit permission' to 'grant to OSMF a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable licence to do any act that is restricted by copyright over anything

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 27/08/2010 08:50, Ian Spencer wrote: I don't think there is anyone rendering it explicitly at the moment, however, it would be trivial for someone to take the OpenCycleMap code and apply a similar style to an

[Talk-GB] UK Mapping Priorities

2010-06-24 Thread Andy Allan
I just had a look at the UK Mapping Priorities page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Priorities and I noticed that Darlington has gone from unmapped to awesome over the last few months. Who wants to step up and take credit for such immense progress on what was the UK's highest

Re: [Talk-GB] Worrying Edits in Southampton

2010-06-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick_whitel...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Greg, Yes, there are a large number of POIs not in the correct place. Whether these are a genuine mistake or some idiot trying to be funny I don't know, but I think they should be reverted. I think a sysadmin

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the week - trace a village off of OSSV?

2010-06-08 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: [...snip...] Maybe we should also start a campaign to ask them to dual license under ODbL+DbCL as well as CC-By... Right, there's no way we can ever discuss this licensing without getting one thing

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the week - trace a village off of OSSV?

2010-06-08 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: On the contrary, OS have given explicit permission to distribute their data under CC-BY.  I quote: This means that you may mix the information with Creative Commons licensed content to create a derivative work that can be

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath tagging and OS OpenData

2010-06-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Phil Endecott spam_from_os...@chezphil.org wrote: This leads to questions like priority between e.g. foot=no and designation=public_footpath.  Perhaps that one's unlikely to conflict in practice, but I bet someone else has already found the right way to parse

Re: [Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

2010-06-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Roy Jamison xtee...@googlemail.com wrote: then these could probably just be ignored instead of having millions of not:* tags for all the possible permutations that *could* be entered incorrectly by an end user. I think you've misunderstood the issue under

Re: [Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

2010-06-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: On a rainy afternoon I took a look at your overlay and I think it is potentially very useful. The main issue I guess is this new tag. I think not:* is imaginative, but it rankles with me somehow. How about just putting

Re: [Talk-GB] National Byway cycle route

2010-05-08 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: On 08/05/2010 12:08, Sam Vekemans wrote: +101 for rendering it brown, so its different than NCN, RCN, LCN I can use it  promote it for the 'Trans Canada Trail' as a 'exact definition' as a leasure route with

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey air survey

2010-04-30 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:23 AM, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: But it would be worth checking what strings are attached to the data by the licensing. Well, the licensing is pretty clear - it's been given to us under the ODbL. Anyone feel qualified enough to suggest what that

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:46 PM, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: In response to the comment no imports ever, I would point out that building imports is a completely different situation than that of public roads. A glance at OS Street View suggests that about 99% of buildings are

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote: I'd say about 95% of buildings are rectangles. About 99% of buildings are purely orthogonal lines. We need to be careful about extracting shapes from products that are known to be downsampled. A quick look at Street

Re: [Talk-GB] tracing lakes with Potlatch

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Henry Gomersall h...@cantab.net wrote: I've been keen for a while to improve the lake and tarns outlines in the lake district. It seems the current data is a little coarse and could be improved. Awesome. Having top-notch maps in popular outdoor areas is one of

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:57 PM, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: I guess the questions we have to address are: is this data worth having in OSM? Yes are there any better sources of building outline? OS Mastermap. But since we won't get access to that any time soon If we do

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The idea of OSM, as I see it, is to create a free-as-in-speech map of the world. All data which goes into the map must be the same sort of 'free'. Whether that be surveying or copying other people's maps is irrelevant -

Re: [Talk-GB] Opening hours from opening-times.co.uk

2010-03-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I am sitting alongside Julian Burgess (CCd, also @aubergene ) of http://opening-times.co.uk/ which lists opening times for all sorts of shops and public service outlets in the UK. We have just tagged a local

[Talk-GB] Hi-Vis Jackets

2010-03-08 Thread Andy Allan
Hi Everyone, Just to let you know that the OpenStreetMap Surveyors Jackets are now available to buy online. I'm selling them on behalf of the OSMF, who supply me the vests and receive £10 for every sale. Sizes available are Small, Medium, Large or Extra Large. If you’re looking for a bulk order,

Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping

2010-01-21 Thread Andy Allan
Yeah, I'm going too. Cheers, Andy On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: I am definitely going. Anyone else? Beer-up afterwards? I will investigate a possible pub. Cheers STEVE Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Manager of e-Learning Academic

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey response

2010-01-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:33 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Richard's a socialist so I can see him arguing for weird government monopolies on making pinball machines for one-legged immigrants living in wales or whatever, but what are you arguing this for? What product will be nuked

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey response

2010-01-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:41 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Oh don't be so sensitive, Richard and I go back and forth on this all the time. I can understand why he argues for strange monopolies given his politcal ideals. Is that better? It's a bit of a recurring theme on these lists

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey response

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Though custom cartography is the right answer for many applications, it will find it difficult to compete with the free, universally-recognised cartography of the OS. Are you saying you want to prevent these releases to

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Not-properly-Open-but-called-Open

2010-01-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: I think it's high time this was done. IMO, OCM should be removed from the main map options asked persuasively to rename themselves as they're not really open, are they? I'll ask you for one favour - when you are talking

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Not-properly-Open-but-called-Open

2010-01-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: As for the name, it was originally The OpenStreetMap Cycle Map and I pondered long and hard on the use of the word The in the title since that sounded a bit exclusive. Eventually I gave up worrying about it since

Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another trunk road query - A495

2009-12-31 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: brenda cameron wrote: The A495 runs from Oswestry to a junction with the A525 a mile or so west of Whitchurch and is tagged as 'trunk'.Can anyone confirm that this is correct? Surprisingly so:

Re: [Talk-GB] Stratford imagery

2009-12-10 Thread Andy Allan
Hi Peter On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Thanks Andy, your wiki page is very useful and it is also good to see the imagery in Potlatch. Is the location of image encoded in the image somehow, or how else does PotLatch know where to load it? They

Re: [Talk-GB] Stratford imagery

2009-12-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: The thread is here in case you want to get involved:- http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb-westmidlands/2009-December/000398.html I've had a quick read of that, forgive me for not signing up to yet

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Andy Allan wrote: automated imports of sub-standard data It is probably wishful thinking to hope that they will go away. Not really. We could state that imports are not permitted, and enforce it, if we want

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather have a partially complete, high quality map than a bodge of crap data (NAPTAN, anyone?) that just encourages more people to add crap data and get the community to fix it. I've been mulling over this point

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Tom Taylor t...@tomtaylor.co.uk wrote: On 9 Nov 2009, at 16:06, Andy Allan wrote: Please don't. Imports are a real, real annoyance. There's no indication that anyone using the dracos site has located these with any accuracy or personal knowledge - I wouldn't

[Talk-GB] Stratford imagery

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
Hi All, Where did we end up with the Stratford imagery in the end? When I left things, I'd made a layer containing about 7 images, made tiles from them, and stuck them online. You can see them in action in potlatch at one of these URLs (both are the same): http://bit.ly/8yJhG

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Mike osm-talk...@... writes: I've been looking at the Dracos postbox list http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/ I have recently started work on importing this, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dracos_import.

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com wrote: I believe it should be possible to use this in Potlatch somehow but haven't figured it out. Some of the link from Warper result in errors. I tried using some of these links:

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frankie Roberto wrote: Have copied chippy and RichardF in, in the hope that they can help us connect things up. Potlatch doesn't do WMS, it only does 900913 tiles (like OSM itself). You specify them in this

Re: [Talk-GB] NOVAM viewer

2009-09-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Christoph Boehme christ...@b3e.net wrote: Robert Naylor wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:27:16 +0100, Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi everyone Shelter = yes/no I think is essential to leave in as a requirement as to whether a bus stop is

Re: [Talk-GB] Export Cyclemap

2009-08-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Bob Kerropenstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, Is there any legal or other reason that there is not an option to export Opencyclemap tiles. In the 'format to export' opencyclemap is not there. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1049 It's not

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Nick Blacknickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Focus.  OSM-F focuses on global issues, OSMF-GB focusses on local / national issues. That sounds like the need for a working group, not a separate legal entity. OSM-F Local * Local community building and outreach *

Re: [Talk-GB] 3 more changesets from Liam123 for reversion

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:21 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Peter Miller wrote: 3 more changesets today from Liam123 for reversion. I have added them to the revert page and have copied this email the Andy. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GB_revert_request_log You got

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Nick Barnesn...@thebarnesfamily.eu wrote: To my mind, nobody ought to be able to edit live map data unless: No, no, no - completely wrong approach. Think using Dettol continuously to keep your house clean - most people now realise that healthy immune systems come

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Christopher Osbornechris.gai...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to hear from the DWG on how they handle the edit wars in Cyprus. Must be some kind of precedent? Handled, past tense, I believe. I've heard that it's now resolved. Anyway, that was a dispute, not

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 alert!

2009-08-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Can I suggest that you (David) immediately add this to the GB Revert Request log (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ GB_revert_request_log) , send Liam123 asking him to stop and forward the revert request to Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding unofficial cycle routes

2009-07-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Richard Mannrichard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: While a signposted route on the ground is the best criterion for a reactive mapper, I think you can proactively identify cycle routes unambiguously prior to that (at least well enough that there won't be

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding unofficial cycle routes

2009-07-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John McKerrellj...@mckerrell.net wrote: How about a bus route? Though there's bus stops along the way there's no arrows or anything like that saying bus route goes this way. Not trying to be difficult, just wondering. I can verify which way the number 37 bus

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Steve Hillst...@nexusuk.org wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Nicholas Barnes wrote: Should, for example, the component ways making up the roundabout be grouped in their own I'm a roundabout relationship? Do we need to be able to tell which ways are part of a

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I have create a wiki page for reversion requests for GB data and have added all Liam123s recent changesets to it with a reference to the discussions of the nature of his edits. I believe that this will be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Nicholas Barnesn...@thebarnesfamily.eu wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: I have seen many roundabouts split up so that the bridges can be added properly, so started doing it myself some time ago. Which begs the question what is the point of tagging as way as a

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Lennard wrote: Brian Prangle wrote: Most public transport route maps do show the whole roundabout as part of the route - perhaps we should follow their example? If the return trip takes the same roads, eventually

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartford Crossings

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Allan
I should clarify - I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion, just your stated reasoning ;-) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com wrote: What? That page says nothing like that - it says you can use your bicycle for free, and someone will drive you and it across the

Re: [Talk-GB] Freemap (OSM for walkers) - increased coverage

2009-06-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Jonathan Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: Ed Loach wrote: Have you a wiki page to say how to tag for things to render under each category? Tag...  Render... BURN HIM! BURN! :-) Gah, the common misconception rears up again. Repeat after me: It

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:13 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: you may well find that someone else goes round systematically changing them to km/h and puts in maxspeed:mph - that's what's happened to most of the ones I've done. Call them out publicly. This kind of thing is a

[Talk-GB] Reminder - London Hack Weekend this weekend

2009-05-26 Thread Andy Allan
Hi Everyone, As a reminder, the London Hack Weekend kicks off on Friday evening with a planning meeting (heh) in the pub, and coding on both Saturday and Sunday. Full details and sign-up on the wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London_Hack_Weekend If you can't make it in person - IRC

Re: [Talk-GB] MK Redways

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I notice from the rerendered cycle map layer, that some of these have been tagged as a local cycle network Redway http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.0473lon=-0.7524zoom=13layers=00B0FTF Should we do this with all the

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