[OSM-talk] Correlated photos on GPS traces - fine adjusted on OSM maps under CC-0?

2010-09-01 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi, One of my sources(source=*) that I use for streets are geotagged photos, which I link to directly at the website where they are hosted. Sometimes when I see that the photo geoposition isn't the way I want it(knowing that the street sign in my city is on the corner of a building usually), I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Jane Smith
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:10 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 1 September 2010 16:04, Jane Smith janesmith...@gmail.com wrote: John Smith and I know the Truth. Frederik's books should be burnt. He is an Apostle of the 'new license'. I would have said apostle of the CT

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Jane Smith
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Aun Yngve Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.orgwrote: I believe if you are the owner of the data, But what is an owner? Ownership is the lash of the bourgoise. What you own is owned by us all. Properety is theft. Therefore those who steel the map from us the mappers

[OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread John Harvey
OSMDoc is great - it's a shame it's a year out of date. I needed a more modern breakdown of tag statistics so I decided to write a report myself - very quick and dirty (no where near as cool as OSMDoc), but functional to get a breakdown of tag usage. I figured someone else might like to

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread paul youlten
Noam, I am curious to know why you don't simply give OSM attribution and carry on using the maps? PY On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Noam, Thank you for taking this as seriously as it needs, and solving the whole issue this fast.

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 09:05:18 paul youlten wrote: I am curious to know why you don't simply give OSM attribution and carry on using the maps? If you read the blog post carefully, you'll find a hint: We are huge fans of OSM and hope to collaborate with OSM through the new license

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
But what a shame that so much crowd generated data had to be erased because of a stupid license ! Nobody of the OSMF board thought of that ? Regards, Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Iván

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Claudius
You seem to be misunderstanding something here. No data has been deleted. Waze is looking forward to use OSM data after the license change, because the current one doesn't allow them to use the OSM data (even including attribution) the way they do. Claudius Am 01.09.2010 11:13, ce-test,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, Richard Weait wrote: Every time OSM contributors have been asked, they have supported ODbL (or license change before ODbL had a name). All the way back to SotM Manchester. And all the way forward through polls and surveys and more SotM conferences. All the time,

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread John Smith
On 1 September 2010 20:33, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: You seem to be misunderstanding something here. No data has been deleted. Waze is looking forward to use OSM data after the license change, because the current one doesn't allow them to use the OSM data (even including attribution)

[OSM-talk] problems with the josm-latest.jar downloads

2010-09-01 Thread maning sambale
Hi, I just downloaded josm-latest.jar and got the following errors: Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:676)

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Niklas Cholmkvist towardsoss at gmail.com writes: Hello, When I map, sometimes I add sources to my contributions. It could be a bus route relation where I may add the GPS trace I took while riding the bus as the source for the route. Other times if I name a street I may use a

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Claudius, You seem to be misunderstanding something here. No data has been deleted. Waze is looking forward to use OSM data after the license change, because the current one doesn't allow them to use the OSM data (even including attribution) the way they do. [GG] Citation:

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread John Smith
On 1 September 2010 21:06, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: OSM: go to shame ourselves. Most OSM software is GPL'd are you telling those authors they should be ashamed of themselves for not publishing under a BSD license instead?

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
This is a direct consequence of OSM not being PD ! From our Homepage: The project (OSM) was started because most maps you think of as free actually have legal or technical restrictions on their use, holding back people from using them in creative, productive, or unexpected ways. This is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/01/2010 10:14 AM, John Smith wrote: On 1 September 2010 19:07, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote: If you don't want the effects of a PD OSM for geodata, ODbL is a better way of ensuring this than BY-SA The devil you know is better than the devil you don't The devil is in the details.

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 01-09-10 13:14, John Smith schreef: On 1 September 2010 21:06, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: OSM: go to shame ourselves. Most OSM software is GPL'd are you telling those authors they should be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread John Smith
On 1 September 2010 21:21, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: The devil is in the details. CT+ODBL has a lot of fine print... But going from these reasonable objections to accusing the actions of the part of the community that you don't agree with of being dishonest, immoral and detrimental

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread John Smith
On 1 September 2010 21:26, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: GPL is not the problem here. None of the software has to be distributed to the end user. No distribution = No license violation. http://svn.openstreetmap.org/LICENSE ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 01-09-10 13:33, John Smith schreef: On 1 September 2010 21:26, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: GPL is not the problem here. None of the software has to be distributed to the end user. No distribution = No license violation.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.com wrote: OSMDoc is great - it's a shame it's a year out of date. I needed a more modern breakdown of tag statistics so I decided to write a report myself - very quick and dirty (no where near as cool as OSMDoc), but functional to get a breakdown of tag

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with the josm-latest.jar downloads

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Since end of July JOSM requires Java 6. Perhaps that's the reason for the exception. I would say: check your Java version ;) regards Peter On 01.09.2010 12:41, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I just downloaded josm-latest.jar and got the following errors: Exception in thread main

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Jörg Ehrichs
John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.com wrote: OSMDoc is great - it's a shame it's a year out of date. ... Am Mittwoch, 1. September 2010, 13:40:23 schrieb Pierre-Alain Dorange: In cas you don't know it, there is tagstat, a little bit slow but more accurate and with updated data :

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with the josm-latest.jar downloads

2010-09-01 Thread maning sambale
Thanks Peter. I switched to JAVA 6. All is fine. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote:  Hi. Since end of July JOSM requires Java 6. Perhaps that's the reason for the exception. I would say: check your Java version ;) regards Peter On

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/09/2010 12:56, Jörg Ehrichs wrote: And just to get a full list. There is also the older, but still working and updated Tagwatch http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagwatch http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/ I maybe missing something, but is there a search facility? Cheers Dave F.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi, take the coordinates from Google Earth/Maps. I will not. That is a non-free source, the same reason I do not look/consider Wikimapia(google maps based) or any other proprietary maps. OSM may currently be the freest data collection that exists (since CC-BY-SA-3.0 is legally invalid for OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Lars Francke
OSMDoc is great - it's a shame it's a year out of date.  I needed a more modern breakdown of tag statistics so I decided to write a report myself - very quick and dirty (no where near as cool as OSMDoc), but functional to get a breakdown of tag usage.  I figured someone else might like to read

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/01/2010 12:30 PM, John Smith wrote: On 1 September 2010 21:21, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote: The devil is in the details. CT+ODBL has a lot of fine print... So does BY-SA. And you should see GNU's GPL/copyright waiver/copyright assignment combination. They are all trying to be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Körner
Am 01.09.2010 15:15, schrieb Lars Francke: OSMDoc is great - it's a shame it's a year out of date. I needed a more modern breakdown of tag statistics so I decided to write a report myself - very quick and dirty (no where near as cool as OSMDoc), but functional to get a breakdown of tag usage.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 80m Manifesto

2010-09-01 Thread Robert Kaiser
Jane Smith schrieb: The longer we keep our secret about BigTinCan John, the longer we can disrupt things! Thanks for stating in a very obvious way what you are here for. And what this community needs is collaboration, not disruption, so either try working together with everyone else or go

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: What is the problem in running the import, that you did once, again, completely replacing the outdated data. he wrote on the German ML that he lost the program which did the import. cheers, Martin ___

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/09/2010 14:15, Lars Francke wrote: Well thank you very much. Cheers, Lars (author of OSMdoc) Hi Lars The search facility appears to only search the key tag not the values tag. Is there a way to overcome this? For instance - parking. It doesn't list amenity=parking or any other

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread Francis Davey
On 1 September 2010 14:42, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Francis Davey schrieb: Agreeing with the person you assign to that they will only use the copyright in certain ways won't protect you against a subsequent assignee of the copyright (eg OSMF assigns to XXX Ltd), subject to certain

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/01/2010 03:05 PM, Francis Davey wrote: Bear in mind that OSMF may cease to exist and its assets be transferred to someone else who you may trust less. I'm not saying it will happen or is even likely to happen, but I'm afraid as a lawyer I'm inclined to be cautious about the far future.

[OSM-talk] ethnio.com javascripts loaded on osm user registration page

2010-09-01 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi, Because I'm curious to read how new users see openstreetmap when they register (and also a curious chance to see the new contributor terms :) ) I went to the registration page of openstreetmap https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new . Why does that page load scripts from ethnio.com? Those

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:44 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to what specifically is stopping them with the current license, because the current license hasn't stopped MS or MapQuest from using OSM's data... It's that pesky ShareAlike part, I'm sure. When looking

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/09/2010 10:22, Andy Allan wrote: ...leading to simply unbelievable volumes of email[3]. Too whinge purely because you can't deal with a few emails is childishness in itself. Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] ethnio.com javascripts loaded on osm user registration page

2010-09-01 Thread Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
I don't know why this script is included and when the target shows up, but it targets (whenever) to https://ethnio.com/remotes/62786/edit? May be anyone knows what's the reason for putting ethnio-recruting service on the page Marco Am 01.09.2010 16:07, schrieb Niklas Cholmkvist: Hi, Because

Re: [OSM-talk] ethnio.com javascripts loaded on osm user registration page

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/09/10 15:07, Niklas Cholmkvist wrote: Because I'm curious to read how new users see openstreetmap when they register (and also a curious chance to see the new contributor terms :) ) I went to the registration page of openstreetmap https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new . Why does that

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: Someone wrote: take the coordinates from Google Earth/Maps. I will not. That is a non-free source, the same reason I do not look/consider Wikimapia(google maps based) or any other proprietary maps. OSM may

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Lars Francke
What is the problem in running the import, that you did once, again, completely replacing the outdated data. he wrote on the German ML that he lost the program which did the import. Thank you Martin. He is correct. I don't have the script anymore that did the import and it didn't work very

[OSM-talk] Voting process

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I just noticed that someone changed some time ago the rules for voting. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_featuresaction=historysubmitdiff=424831oldid=422949 I cannot remember that there was any discussion about this. I believe that RFC and voting-announcements should go to

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting process

2010-09-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/09/2010 17:12, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: I just noticed that someone changed some time ago the rules for voting. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_featuresaction=historysubmitdiff=424831oldid=422949 I cannot remember that there was any discussion about this. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting process

2010-09-01 Thread Ed Loach
Martin wrote: I cannot remember that there was any discussion about this. I believe that RFC and voting-announcements should go to [talk], while [tagging] is for discussions about tags and tagging schemes. Perhaps I'm a bit jaded at the moment, but I think [tagging] is a better choice. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-09-01 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/30/2010 10:41 AM, Graham Jones wrote: I think we might need some finer grained assessment of c, because as my son gets bigger (or I get older!) I am finding I give up on more tracks than I used to... Does anyone know if there is such a scheme in use already, or would we need to invent a

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting process

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com:  On 01/09/2010 17:12, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: I just noticed that someone changed some time ago the rules for voting. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_featuresaction=historysubmitdiff=424831oldid=422949 I cannot remember

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Sock puppetry is not welcome here

2010-09-01 Thread Jim Brown
++ jim From: legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Emilie Laffray Sent: 01 September 2010 10:39 To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Sock puppetry is not welcome here On 1 September 2010 10:36, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Körner
Am 01.09.2010 15:15, schrieb Lars Francke: OSMDoc is great - it's a shame it's a year out of date. I needed a more modern breakdown of tag statistics so I decided to write a report myself - very quick and dirty (no where near as cool as OSMDoc), but functional to get a breakdown of tag usage.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMDoc is awesome!

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Körner
Am 01.09.2010 22:32, schrieb Peter Körner: it took 6m50.329s for the germany/bremen extract [2] which is about 4MB of bz2 compressed xml (imported 65046 nodes, 125824 ways). I just ran it on a much faster server and it took 0m33.193s for the same extract. This sounds reasonable. I won't be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Albertas Agejevas a...@pov.lt wrote: But FlightGear, for instance, currently uses cooked scenery files, distributing OSM data separately is not an option.  So it is not included at all. (I am not associated with FlightGear). would it not be possible to create

[OSM-legal-talk] Noise vs unanswered questions

2010-09-01 Thread Liz
The complete lack of any arguments left in the brains of the pro-ODbL lobby shows in the complete falling apart of any discussion on this list, with previously thoughtful people concentrating on personal attacks on others, mostly claiming that they are making personal attacks. So 1. From where

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:52 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Also I don't see how CC-By-SA 3.0 explicitly does not apply to databases more than 2.0.  It explicitly applies to things like maps however (possibly this only means maps as images though) Well, it explicitly applies to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
Barrier=ditch would be logical for a ditch that is intended to keep people or animals out, but is not intended for drainage. Examples would be a dry moat around a castle, or a ha-ha (a dry trench used as a livestock barrier). ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] Waterway

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
Barrier=ditch would be logical for a ditch that is intended to keep people or animals out, but is not intended for drainage. Examples would be a dry moat around a castle, or a ha-ha (a dry trench used as a livestock barrier). ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] Waterway

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 1 September 2010 17:40, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: Someone wrote: take the coordinates from Google Earth/Maps. I will not. That is a non-free source, the same reason I do not look/consider Wikimapia(google

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:25 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 September 2010 17:40, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: Someone wrote: take the coordinates from Google Earth/Maps. I will not. That is

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Simon Biber
On Thu, 2 September, 2010 11:22:54 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Besides, there's nothing in the Google Terms of Service which says you may not make use of the facts you learn by using this website. That'd just be silly. Not to mention unconscionable, and therefore

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: Uso correto dei landuse

2010-09-01 Thread Stefano Salvador
[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.939lon=13.3026zoom=14layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.68689lon=13.08742zoom=15layers=M la laguna di grado e marano è sempre opera dello stesso mapper, merita anche qui: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.68689lon=13.08742zoom=15layers=M

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: Uso correto dei landuse

2010-09-01 Thread Luca Dorigo
Quello che sto facendo (a molto rilento) su [0] è un test su un'area limitata per vedere fino dove posso spingermi a mappare. E se ciò serve effettivamente... Il 31 agosto 2010 21:12, Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com ha scritto: è un po' quello che sta facendo con infinita pazienza un

Re: [Talk-it] Tag in parco pubblico

2010-09-01 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il 01 settembre 2010 01:29, Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it ha scritto: -Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of G Zamboni Sent: mercoledì 1 settembre 2010 0.38 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Talk-it] Tag in parco pubblico

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/9/1 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Per carità, va tutto bene, i tag sono tag, non importa come li scriviamo e tutto il resto. Ma... bbq?! Perché non barbeque? Per curiosità eh! Niente flame :-) Sospetto perché l'ortografia di barbecue (per gli anglofoni) è incerta tra barbeCue e

[Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Bighi
Magari sara' uscita già questa discussione, ma sul wiki non trovo indicato nulla: Le pizzerie al taglio come le taggo? amenity = fastfood cusine = ? ed gli uffici dove vendono case tipo Tecnocasa? Grazie Alessandro ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Damjan Gerli
Bighi, on 01/09/2010 12.41, wrote: Magari sara' uscita già questa discussione, ma sul wiki non trovo indicato nulla: Le pizzerie al taglio come le taggo? amenity = fastfood cusine = ? amenity = fast_food cusine = pizza ed gli uffici dove vendono case tipo Tecnocasa? direi

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Damjan Gerli
Damjan Gerli, on 01/09/2010 12.49, wrote: amenity = fast_food cusine = pizza attenzione, ho sbagliato a scrivere. Giusto sarebbe cuisine = pizza Ciao Damjan ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 9/1/10, Bighi bi...@ngi.it wrote: Le pizzerie al taglio come le taggo? amenity = fastfood cusine = ? cousine = pizza (poi si dovrebbe ritirar fuori la discussione sul taggare i forni a legna e la qualita` della pizza, ma e` un'altra questione) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage:

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Damjan Gerli
Elena of Valhalla, on 01/09/2010 12.53, wrote: On 9/1/10, Bighibi...@ngi.it wrote: Le pizzerie al taglio come le taggo? amenity = fastfood cusine = ? cousine = pizza cuisine... ;-) (poi si dovrebbe ritirar fuori la discussione sul taggare i forni a legna e la qualita` della pizza, ma e`

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Bighi
Ma in questo caso potrebbe essere nenissimo pizza tonda al trancio. Non e' meglio specificare? Il 01/09/2010 12:50, Damjan Gerli ha scritto: Damjan Gerli, on 01/09/2010 12.49, wrote: amenity = fast_food cusine = pizza attenzione, ho sbagliato a scrivere. Giusto sarebbe cuisine = pizza

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Bighi
Il 01/09/2010 12:59, Damjan Gerli ha scritto: Elena of Valhalla, on 01/09/2010 12.53, wrote: On 9/1/10, Bighibi...@ngi.it wrote: Le pizzerie al taglio come le taggo? amenity = fastfood cusine = ? cousine = pizza cuisine... ;-) Si ho sbagliato anche fast food che va con il _ in mezzo

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 9/1/10, Damjan Gerli dam...@damjan.net wrote: Elena of Valhalla, on 01/09/2010 12.53, wrote: On 9/1/10, Bighibi...@ngi.it wrote: cusine = ? cousine = pizza cuisine... ;-) ehm, si`, fortuna che c'e` il preset di josm, perche' non imparero` mai a scriverlo giusto O:-) -- Elena ``of

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread Damjan Gerli
Bighi, on 01/09/2010 13.01, wrote: Ma in questo caso potrebbe essere nenissimo pizza tonda al trancio. Non e' meglio specificare? Non ho trovato nessun tag nel wiki inerente a questo. Si potrebbe inventarne uno tipo: pizza_type=* Ciao Damjan ___

Re: [Talk-it] Uso correto dei landuse

2010-09-01 Thread Ruggero
Il 30 agosto 2010 17:51, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 30 agosto 2010 17:36, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2010/8/30 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Ho due domande su come vanno usati i landuse. Landuse non è stato pensato per simili

Re: [Talk-it] Uso correto dei landuse

2010-09-01 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il 01 settembre 2010 14:35, Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 30 agosto 2010 17:51, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi è venuta in mente un'altra cosa. Usando il landuse, è possibile colorare l'intera superficie di una città: qui residential, lì commercial, l'area

[Talk-it] Gelaterie - oh no, ancora!

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
Qualcuno mi può spiegare perché dopo un anno di proposte, RFC, sondaggi ecc. qualcuno si sente autorizzato a creare la pagina http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dice_cream Notare che la proposta era per amenity=ice_cream, la pagina è per shop=ice_cream A questo punto mi sento

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: Dubbi su Aree di Servizio in autostrada

2010-09-01 Thread MrFrem82
volendo si potrebe anche indicare sulla strada covered=yes per il pezzo sotto. Cercando sul wiki ho trovato la pagina dove parla della chiave covered[0]. C'è scritto di evitarne l'uso qualora si debba indicare una strada che passa sotto un ponte la cui traiettoria/percorso sia facilmente

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: Dubbi su Aree di Servizio in autostrada

2010-09-01 Thread Fabio
In data 01 settembre 2010 alle ore 15:08:35, MrFrem82 prettyvisit...@gmx.com ha scritto: volendo si potrebe anche indicare sulla strada covered=yes per il pezzo sotto. Cercando sul wiki ho trovato la pagina dove parla della chiave covered[0]. C'è scritto di evitarne l'uso qualora si

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - oh no, ancora!

2010-09-01 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Il giorno 01 settembre 2010 15:03, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: Qualcuno mi può spiegare perché dopo un anno di proposte, RFC, sondaggi ecc. qualcuno si sente autorizzato a creare la pagina http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dice_cream Hai già contattato l'autore

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - oh no, ancora!

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: Qualcuno mi può spiegare perché dopo un anno di proposte, RFC, sondaggi ecc. qualcuno si sente autorizzato a creare la pagina http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dice_cream Notare che la proposta era per amenity=ice_cream, la pagina è per

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - oh no, ancora!

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/9/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Io mi riccordo che erano 2 modi/tipi di gelaterie: amenity=cafe, N per piacere non ri-discutiamo tutto ancora... La proposta era amenity=ice_cream. Forse l'errore è stato di non portarla ancora in votazione. Dovremmo votarla punto e basta.

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - oh no, ancora!

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: propongo il subtag: ice_cream=industrial, ice_cream=artisanal da aggiungere a qualsiasi posto che vende gelato (cafe, shop, amenity(?) ) se non si sa che roba viene venduta: ice_cream=yes da aggiungere a qualsiasi posto che vende (non solo)

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - oh no, ancora!

2010-09-01 Thread Damjan Gerli
Federico Cozzi, on 01/09/2010 16.17, wrote: Forse l'errore è stato di non portarla ancora in votazione. Dovremmo votarla punto e basta. Se passa è passata, altrimenti si ritorna a mappare ognuno come vuole +1 per portarla in votazione ad oggi: amenity=ice_cream475 shop=ice_cream

[Talk-it] Gelaterie - votazione (quasi) aperta

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
Ho inviato il messaggio alla mailing list Tagging (sono in attesa che venga sbloccato) e ho aggiornato lo stato nella pagina wiki. Io ho già messo il mio voto, votate anche voi! E votate sì!!! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ice_cream Ciao, Federico -- Forwarded

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - votazione (quasi) aperta

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: Ho inviato il messaggio alla mailing list Tagging (sono in attesa che venga sbloccato) e ho aggiornato lo stato nella pagina wiki. Io ho già messo il mio voto, votate anche voi! E votate sì!!!

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - votazione (quasi) aperta

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/9/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: di solito si fa prima un RFC (request for comments) in talk, non in tagging, poi aspetti 14 giorni, e poi si va alla votazione. Lo so che Martin, l'RFC è stato aperto il 5 marzo 2010. Ora è proprio il momento di votare. Ciao, Federico

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - votazione (quasi) aperta

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2010/9/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: di solito si fa prima un RFC (request for comments) in talk, non in tagging, poi aspetti 14 giorni, e poi si va alla votazione. Lo so che Martin, l'RFC è stato aperto il 5 marzo 2010. Ora è

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - votazione (quasi) aperta

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/9/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: l'RFC è stato aperto il 5 marzo 2010. Ora è proprio il momento di votare. OK, scusa, ora mi riccordo ;-), allora manda [voting] etc. a t...@osm, non si manda solo a tagg...@osm (se non sbaglio) ;-) Qui non è d'accordo:

Re: [Talk-it] Gelaterie - votazione (quasi) aperta

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2010/9/1 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: l'RFC è stato aperto il 5 marzo 2010. Ora è proprio il momento di votare. OK, scusa, ora mi riccordo ;-), allora manda [voting] etc. a t...@osm, non si manda solo a tagg...@osm (se non sbaglio) ;-)

Re: [Talk-it] Uso correto dei landuse

2010-09-01 Thread Ruggero
Il 01 settembre 2010 15:00, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 01 settembre 2010 14:35, Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 30 agosto 2010 17:51, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi è venuta in mente un'altra cosa. Usando il landuse, è possibile

[Talk-it] Riflessione: gelaterie, amenity e namespace...

2010-09-01 Thread Federico Cozzi
Ciao, tutte le discussioni sul tag giusto per la gelateria mi hanno fatto riflettere... 1. nessuna persona normale, cioè al di fuori di una mailing list di OSM, capirebbe il problema. Una gelateria è una gelateria, punto e basta. Non è uno shop, né una amenity (come si traduce in italiano? Se si

Re: [Talk-it] Pizzerie al taglio e vendita case

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com: On 9/1/10, Bighi bi...@ngi.it wrote: Le pizzerie al taglio come le taggo? amenity = fastfood cusine = ? cousine = pizza (poi si dovrebbe ritirar fuori la discussione sul taggare i forni a legna e la qualita` della pizza, ma e` un'altra

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: Dubbi su Aree di Servizio in autostrada

2010-09-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/1 MrFrem82 prettyvisit...@gmx.com: volendo si potrebe anche indicare sulla strada covered=yes per il pezzo sotto. Cercando sul wiki ho trovato la pagina dove parla della chiave covered[0]. C'è scritto di evitarne l'uso qualora si debba indicare una strada che passa sotto un ponte la

[Talk-it] Uso correto dei landuse

2010-09-01 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
On 01.09.10, 14:35, Ruggero wrote: ciao, visto che ho riempito di giallo la zona di crema rispondo un po'. Innanzitutto vale il solito discorso che non si mappa per il rendering, quindi se il colore non piace si può pensare di cambiarlo, ma questo non è un motivo per non mappare il landuse.

[Talk-it] domande

2010-09-01 Thread Fabri
esistono dei metodi per visualizzare i benzinai di una vasta area che hanno il tag gpl=yes? esistono metodi per modificare (non a mano) il nome di tutti i supermercati di una città (ad esempio da GS a Carrefour)? ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-at] Länger einer Relation bestimmen

2010-09-01 Thread Boris Cornet
Schönen guten Tag! Gestern (Di, 31. August 2010) verlautete Familie Geramb: ich habe den Radweg Schilcher-Tour-Nord und das Verbindungsstück zur Schilcher-Tour-Süd fertig gemappt. Für die Seite http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Austria/Radwege#Genuss.radeln

Re: [Talk-transit] How to map named bus stop platform/positions

2010-09-01 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 31/08/10 19:17, Magnus Bäck wrote: In the Skånetrafiken public transport network in southmost Sweden, bus stops are identified not only by name but also by a capital letter that identifies this particular platform (or stop position, if you will). In most cases you have an A platform for one

Re: [talk-ph] charitable institutions?

2010-09-01 Thread Rally de Leon
maybe these private orgs / foundations / charities can be temporarily classified all under NGO classification (or a more general term). not all foundations / NGO's are charitable. Maybe, charity should just be a sub-category of foundation or NGO(?) Charitable institutions are most likely a

Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-09-01 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hmmm... I guess we can declare this coastline correction task complete? There are still red spots in the webmap but I think these are all residual errors and I'm guessing there are no more SRTM-based coastlines remaining. I think all are now based on Landsat or PGS (which has small sawtooth coasts

[talk-ph] Vigan

2010-09-01 Thread tutubi
hi all! i'm doing a trip pre-planning to Sta. Cruz, Ilocos Sur with a highly-probable side-trip to Vigan and noticed OSM needs some sort of a Vigan mapping party. the tourist place needs lots of mapping works to do; I expected the opposite though. I remember the calesa route merely circled the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Jane Smith
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:12 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 1 September 2010 07:21, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I think that most people would say that's a feature, not a problem. But you aren't asking most people since you don't want to know the true answer.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-09-01 Thread Jane Smith
2010/8/31 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net Am 31.08.2010 12:30, schrieb Liz: I was referring to user-mapped data. Imports have to fit the license, not the other way around. At the time of import the data imported fitted the licence. Perhaps you had better look back at the archives

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 80m Manifesto

2010-09-01 Thread John Smith
You would have had more luck sticking to one alias (Jane Smith), now you're just making it obvious as to your goals. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that some are now stooping to questionable tactics, but it just re-enforces the fact that I no longer have any faith in those that are pushing

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