Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I believe there has been numerous attempts on TT. You say you do not get it but at least it has been attempted. Seems to me that OTOH there is NO ATTEMPT to explain LDS Trinities!Father Son and Michael versus Father Son and Holy GhostGreat Granpa, Granpa and Grandson (Father Son and

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Apparently it is no harder to EXPLAIN than the two different Trinities of LDS gods.Could you explain Father Son MICHAEL to us?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE?DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it using the

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-21 Thread Dave Hansen
I believe there has been numerous attempts on TT. DAVEH: The keyword is attempts. And when you use the term numerous, just how many times does mean numerous, Kevin? You say you do not get it but at least it has been attempted. DAVEH: When did I say that I do not get it? Care to quote me on

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I have numerous times would you like the posts reposted to refresh your memory? What is up with all the various LDS TRINITIES? I am real interested in the CREATORS of this planet Why is Adam a creator of Earth? Why are you to follow adam to become a God? ELohim Jehovah Michael/Adam Why is Adam

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-21 Thread Dave Hansen
I have numerous times would you like the posts reposted to refresh your memory? DAVEH: Yes Kevin, please do. Kevin Deegan wrote: I have numerous times would you like the posts reposted to refresh your memory? What is up with all the various LDS TRINITIES? I am real interested in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
of anyone who has read that new biography on Joseph Smith? 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling - Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 11:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I was wondering how you would answer. Is this that difficult to answer

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
I'm reading it now, Dave. - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 17:17 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? I'd recommend the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone RollingDAVEH: Have you read it, Lance?Lance Muir

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
'muddle in his own puddle', I like it. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 01:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? DAVEH: ??? Why do you say that, Kevin? Just because I don't always respond quickly

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 03:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Do YOU know of anyone who has read that new biography on Joseph Smith? 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone RollingDAVEH: I'm not aware of anybody locally

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?As everyone here alread y knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
recommend the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
, as it is with anyone, that he might believe wrongly for the right reasons. L - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 07:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Because you took opportunity again to avoid the question

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
: [TruthTalk] Who is God?Because you took opportunity again to avoid the question, AGAIN One God or Three which is it? Why is that so hard???Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: ??? Why do you say that, Kevin? Just because I don't always respond quickly or as often as you do hardly means

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 07:15 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? You left out It is also possible that anything is possibleLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. You, Kevin, could tell him what his sect teaches. 2. It is just possible that that which he

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
r better than he does. Are you attempting to teach or embarrass him?ONCE AGAIN, I'd recommend the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthT

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Judy Taylor
vin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? As everyone here alread y knows,

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Why would he call himself a Mormon or for that matter identify with any 'ism in which he did not believe Lance? I go to a Reformed Church but I will not join and I do not identify myself with or tell others that I am Presbyterian. It is possible

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
necessarily, the case that IFF JS were a fraud then the balance of the LDS superstructure collapses? - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 03:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Do YOU know

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Do I know LDS theology as well as you do? DAVEH: You certainly seem to know a lot about it, Kevin. However, it is obvious that you don't understand it. Kevin Deegan wrote: Do you agree with Lance DH? Do I know LDS

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread knpraise
2006 01:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? DAVEH: ??? Why do you say that, Kevin? Just because I don't always respond quickly or as often as you do hardly means that I am not willing to defend that which I believe to be true. Nor am I compelled to respond to every post aimed at deriding that which

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Lance Muir
DH:IFF that position you claim to understand is, in reality, true THEN you don't actually understand it, do you? - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 10:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? We're saying

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sent: March 20, 2006 07:28 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? If Elohim is the ONE God why did Jehovah Michael take part in organizing the earth? It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael . . . Journal

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
mailto:TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org *Sent:* March 20, 2006 03:10 *Subject:* Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? *Do YOU know of anyone who has read that new biography on Joseph Smith? 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling* DAVEH: I'm not aware of anybody locally who has

RE: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Why would he call himself a Mormon or for that matter identify with any 'ism in which he did not believe Lance? I go to a Reformed Church but I will not join and I do not identify myself with or tell others that I am Presbyterian. It is possible

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 10:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? We're saying 'if you really understood then, you'd agree with me/us'. DAVEH: I don't see it that way at all, Lance. One can understand something and still disagree. For instance, I

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Another typo, Kevin? Were you intending to send a subtle message to the Bishop GRIDDLE me that, Matman! Kevin Deegan wrote: RIDDLE me that Batman! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
How do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE? DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it using the Trinity? Kevin Deegan wrote: If you do not believe that God is expressesed as a Trinity How do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE? --

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
How do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE? DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it using the Trinity? DAVEH: Ohhh.Kevin, I forgot to add.If you don't want to answer my question, I understand your reluctance todefend the mormon faith Trinity!

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I was wondering how you would answer. Is this that difficult to answer?Who do you, believe to be God? Father Son Holy Ghost Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: For a guy who knows so much about LDS

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Lance Muir
- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I was wondering how you would answer. Is this that difficult

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I was wondering how you would answer. Is this that difficult to answer?Who do you, believe to be God? Father Son Holy Ghost Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: For a guy

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Lance Muir
? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? Do you agree with Lance DH? Do I know LDS theology as well as you do? Or is Lance putting words in your mouth? I seem

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I was wondering how you would answer. Is this that difficult to answer?Who do you, believe to be God? Father Son Holy Ghost Dave [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Lance Muir
Nuff said. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 08:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? What is so difficult about a simple question? Are you attempting to imply that his religion is secretive

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Dave
I was wondering how you would answer. DAVEH: Thank you for your below succinct answer, Kevin. I will reciprocate. Contrasted to the man-made doctrine of the Trinity, I believe in the Biblical version of the Godhead where each person (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) of the Godhead is referred

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Lance Muir
Smith - Rough Stone Rolling - Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 11:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God? I was wondering how you would answer.DAVEH: Thank you for your below succinct answer

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thanks DH Since Jesus is called the FULLNESS of the Godhead Bodily how does that fit into your theology?I read your reply. I am not trying to mock here but...You say the Trinity is confusing? You left the question unanswered in my mind. Is there one God or Three?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Dave
AGAIN, I'd recommend the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Dave
? ONCE AGAIN, I'd recommend the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
- Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?As everyone here already knows, I believe God is a Trinity that is exactly why I was wondering how you

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
. Are you attempting to teach or embarrass him?ONCE AGAIN, I'd recommend the book 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Dave Hansen
Smith - Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-19 Thread Dave Hansen
- Rough Stone Rolling' Richard Lyman Bushman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 07:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-18 Thread Dave
DAVEH: For a guy who knows so much about LDS theology, Kevinrather than me answering this, why don't you tell me how you believe about the Father, Son and Holy Ghost? Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you can help me out here Dave H? Who do you, believe to be God? Father Son Holy

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
Maybe you can help me out here Dave H?Who do you, believe to be God?Father Son Holy Ghost Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.