Re: Eclipse dependencies

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Marino
/2005 12:42 PM Please respond to tuscany-dev To tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org cc Subject Re: Eclipse dependencies cool - thx Jim Marino wrote: My understanding is that the SDO implementation that is being used by the Java runtime requires EMF. That implementation is in the process

Re: SCA and mbeans

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Marino
Our mechanism is mostly a pluggable reader if I understand you correctly. This is somewhat in a bit of flux at the moment but the best place to start is the model project. There is an SDO implementation currently which can be extended to allow for new component types. I also have a fairly

Re: status update on porting build to maven2

2006-01-13 Thread Jim Marino
This also brings up a couple of more general issues about unit tests and the functioning of the model. For unit tests, I think we should avoid loading of external resources such as side files. This will get around these types of issues as well as maintain a shorter run time for the unit

runtime overview

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Marino
I started to do a very high level write-up of how the runtime and Contexts work in general and checked it into my sandbox. It's intended to be a very broad overview (I wanted to have a series of other more detailed documents on specific aspects). Also, its very,very rough since I just

Re: Setting up SDO2 factories

2006-01-18 Thread Jim Marino
On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Frank Budinsky wrote: Ultimately though it would be good if people could use SDO2 without needed to generate any code at all. Wouldn't it be possible to provide implementations of user interfaces using Java Proxies (perhaps with codegen

Re: build error

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Marino
: I built and ran the unit tests successfully on OS X about a month ago with no problems; not recently though. Can you provide the last 38 lines of the stack trace? Is there any chance that a previous execution of the build had not completed? --Kevin Jim Marino wrote: When I run maven

Re: build error

2006-01-22 Thread Jim Marino
Jeremy's suggestion? Thanks, --Kevin Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: The problem was the issue Jeremy pointed to (http:// issues.apache.org/ jira/browse/DERBY-1). I ran into this problem on two separate OS X machines. A workaround is to set the command line option

Re: m2 POMs for acceptance tests

2006-01-30 Thread Jim Marino
On Jan 28, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: I think that a test suite that simulates an end user interacting with our basic samples and verifies that they behave like expected is extremely valuable. If I'm new to Tuscany and want to understand what it does, the first thing

testing strategy

2006-01-30 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, wanted to continue this in a separate thread based on Sebastien's comments: 3. Start a separate discussion on our test strategy - decide the test suites that we want to have (unit / build verification / function / integration tests) For starters we could have the following: 1. Unit

Re: testing strategy

2006-01-30 Thread Jim Marino
On Jan 30, 2006, at 3:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: 1. Unit tests [snip] 2. Integration tests [snip] 3. Function tests - Exercise end-user scenarios - May access external resources - Includes/organized by deployment platform-specific tests, e.g. J2SE,

Re: testing strategy

2006-01-30 Thread Jim Marino
, --Kevin Jim Marino wrote: Hi, wanted to continue this in a separate thread based on Sebastien's comments: 3. Start a separate discussion on our test strategy - decide the test suites that we want to have (unit / build verification / function / integration tests) For starters we could

Re: m2 POMs for acceptance tests

2006-01-31 Thread Jim Marino
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On Jan 28, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: I think that a test suite that simulates an end user interacting with our basic samples and verifies that they behave like expected is extremely

Re: Roadmap for the next few weeks

2006-02-03 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Sebastien, Nice write-up - thanks a lot for doing this. I'm generally o.k. with these with a few caveats: 1. We'll need to scope because I think there is a lot more here than we can accomplish 2. As a pre-req to do this, I think we need to have the following in place. My view is that

Re: Roadmap for the next few weeks

2006-02-08 Thread Jim Marino
that a scoping effort should take place first. Is the scoping effort currently under way? Jean-Sebastien also mentions a Tuscany/ Java milestone, is there something posted on http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/index.html that speaks to milestones? Lance On 2/3/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: commits

2006-02-09 Thread Jim Marino
Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: I am in the process of making some early changes to the proxy configuration mechanism so that we can switch over to the new context infrastructure. These are early changes that will need a lot of refactoring so I am attempting to do this in parallel

Java runtime unit test infrastructure between projects

2006-02-09 Thread Jim Marino
Cases are coming up where it would be useful to be able to share mock objects or convenience classes between unit tests in different projects, e.g. o.a.t.core and o.a.t.container.java. Do people feel it is appropriate to allow references in the Maven project files between unit test

Re: Java runtime unit test infrastructure between projects

2006-02-09 Thread Jim Marino
Yea I agree on the hell cross-references would introduce. Most of the stuff I had in mind depends on the model project. We probably should just live with cut-and-paste. Jim On Feb 9, 2006, at 8:50 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: Cases are coming up where it would be useful

Re: dynamic invocations

2006-02-11 Thread Jim Marino
One of the key things about a module is that a module defines the boundary of visibility. In other words, components in a module cannot directly reference out and cannot be directly referenced by *components* in other modules. All references go through entry points and external services

Re: Roadmap for the next few weeks

2006-02-11 Thread Jim Marino
. Jim On Feb 9, 2006, at 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Marino wrote: There is some documentation on the design in my sandbox although I realize this needs to be beefed up a lot. We definitely want it to be easy for you to ramp up (my apologies for the project being somewhat in a state

Re: SDOType doesn't implement Type confusion

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Marino
Looks like you need to point to SDO 2.1.0, not 2.0, since the signature is different. This raises a question of which is correct, i.e. which version we are targeting? Could one of the people working on SDO comment and I can change the impl if required? Jim On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:39 AM, ant

Re: SDOType doesn't implement Type confusion

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Marino
/SDOType is based on the SDO 1.0 version of Type, so it would need to be moved up to 2.0 - or replaced with the SDO Type implementation class from the SDO project. Frank. Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/14/2006 11:23:13 AM: Looks like you need to point to SDO 2.1.0, not 2.0, since

Re: Roadmap for the next few weeks

2006-02-16 Thread Jim Marino
Thanks Sebastien. I think this looks good so far. Jim On Feb 15, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: I maybe wasn't clear. I don't think we should force this through Axis2. I was just thinking it would be good to have an additional binding to SOAP/Axis2

cut-over

2006-02-16 Thread Jim Marino
Over the next several days, we are going to begin the cut-over to the new bootstrap and proxy mechanism. I realize the documentation has been lacking and it is difficult for people to get up to speed on the changes. I hope to correct this as soon as possible. In the meantime, a few

Re: dynamic invocation...again

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Hung, I'm not quite sure I follow... On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:09 PM, hung tran wrote: Hi Tuscans, I had previously posted a question regarding dynamic invocation, which i believe i didn't word clearly enough. I would like to build a test tool, with a runtime piece sitting as part of

Re: dynamic invocation...again

2006-02-20 Thread Jim Marino
On Feb 20, 2006, at 8:56 AM, hung tran wrote: Hi Jim, I hope this makes it clearer, otherwise i'll give it another shot :) From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: dynamic invocation...again Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14

Re: cut-over

2006-02-21 Thread Jim Marino
with just say. ...ant On 2/21/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a bunch of changes to the js container to support the proxying infrastructure that is being put in place. Ant, would you want to work together on this? I plan to check in once I get the compile and unit test issues

Build error in model

2006-02-22 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, I just synced to 379874 and am getting the following NPE when I mvn: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.apache.tuscany.sdo.plugin.GeneratorMojo.execute (GeneratorMojo.java:69) at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultPluginManager.executeMojo (DefaultPluginManager.java:432)

Re: Build error in model

2006-02-22 Thread Jim Marino
O.K. the problem was I didn't sync SDO first. It works now after I synced that project and built. Jim On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Jim Marino wrote: Hi, I just synced to 379874 and am getting the following NPE when I mvn: java.lang.NullPointerException

refactorings

2006-02-22 Thread Jim Marino
We've recovered to a state where the build and unit tests are working except for binding.axis in the Java runtime (the samples are still down). Or next steps are to get the new runtime bootstrap in place, which Sebastien and I are going to work on tomorrow. Also, I plan to write some

HelloWorldMC working again

2006-02-24 Thread Jim Marino
Sebastien and I got wiring working so HelloWorldMC is back online. Stepping through the testcase is a good way to see how the runtime is bootrapped and invocation chains work. Various pieces of the runtime are now contributed as system components contained in special aggregate contexts

mock test objects and integration tests

2006-02-25 Thread Jim Marino
We are starting to run into the situation where we are duplicating a lot of test code (e.g. the mock factories that create logical models for testing) between projects. We discussed this in a previous mail and Jeremy mentioned the problem with circular dependencies between projects. Does

Re: Status

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Marino
On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:47 AM, ant elder wrote: Back on the 22nd Jim suggest people may not want to sync up till all the projects are back online after all the latest refactorings, whats the status with that? What should/shouldn't be working? Everything in the main set of projects except

Re: Reference resolution question

2006-02-27 Thread Jim Marino
Yea it appears wrong. The builder should set the parent of the source. Currently, this is set in SystemAggregateContextImpl (line 302). I'm wondering if the new builder component is setting its parent as opposed to the source parent? Jim On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

Re: Quick Start

2006-02-28 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Jason, To build Eclipse .project files, run mvn eclipse:eclipse from the command line. These files will be configured with the proper dependencies and you can import them into you environment. Let us know if you have any further questions. Jim On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Jason

Re: Reference resolution question

2006-02-28 Thread Jim Marino
As a hack would setting the module component implementation to null work? If this worked, I think it should only be temporary and we should do the recursion solution since others will run into this. Jim On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: There is a

Re: Reference resolution question

2006-02-28 Thread Jim Marino
It sounds like we should just fix the visitor. What do you think? On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: As a hack would setting the module component implementation to null work? If this worked, I think it should only be temporary and we should do

Re: Reference resolution question

2006-02-28 Thread Jim Marino
Any luck with converting the visitor stuff? Let me know if you want me to do some of it. Jim On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Jim Marino wrote: It sounds like we should just fix the visitor. What do you think? On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote

Re: Reference resolution question

2006-02-28 Thread Jim Marino
On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:20 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: Any luck with converting the visitor stuff? Let me know if you want me to do some of it. I got distracted looking at the Tomcat stuff again. I ran into a wall with the visitor trying to figure out how to recurse

Re: AggregateContext.getAggregate()

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Marino
Can we open this discussion? My inclination is to agree that most processing flow, as opposed to configuration, code should not rely on model objects (I'm assuming builders are configuration code). It may be useful though to provide a management interface that exposes the model, but this

EntryPointContext change getInstance()

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Marino
After talking with Sebastien the other day, it appears Axis1 uses reflection to make invocations, requiring entry points to return proxies implementing the exposed service (Axis2 appears different). So, I changed getInstance(..) to return a generated proxy - if you don't need a proxy, get

Re: EntryPointContext change getInstance()

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Marino
sense? -- Jeremy Jim Marino wrote: After talking with Sebastien the other day, it appears Axis1 uses reflection to make invocations, requiring entry points to return proxies implementing the exposed service (Axis2 appears different). So, I changed getInstance(..) to return a generated proxy

Re: Stable code - all scenarios including BigBank working on SVN revision 383106

2006-03-04 Thread Jim Marino
This is great Sebastien! On Mar 4, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: After some bring-up work today - and a number of bug fixes :) - I think that we have reached a stable state with all of our end to end scenarios working fine (including the Bigbank scenario) with our new

Re: Axis2 WS binding next steps

2006-03-06 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 6, 2006, at 4:14 AM, ant elder wrote: Now that we have the WS binding going using Axis2 can we come up with a list of what improvements we need to make to it in the nearish future. If we can come up with a list of task, prioritize it, see who volunteers for what, then we'll know

Re: Lifecycle and eventing, was: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-63) ...

2006-03-06 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:09 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-63? page=comments#action_12368832 ] Jim Marino commented on TUSCANY-63: --- We may have to think about a general eventing mechanism

Intra-aggregate wires

2006-03-06 Thread Jim Marino
Jeremy mentioned that intra-aggregate system component wires were not working. I check some test cases in that exercise functionality that was already in place. I'm probably missing something here so can someone let me know? I may be incorrectly generating the model in MockFactory or

Re: How do you register SCDL for a new binding?

2006-03-07 Thread Jim Marino
The error message in the SystemEntryPointBuilder is not the most helpful. I'm fixing wiring to List types now so I'll go in and provide a more descriptive error as well. Jim On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:32 AM, ant elder wrote: Ok, forget this. Brain dead coding in the scdl module loader. On

Jira emails

2006-03-10 Thread Jim Marino
Does anyone know if we can get Jira to generate emails with the sub- project or even component part of the subproject embedded in the subiject so we can filter issues? Jim

Re: svn commit: r384939 - in /incubator/tuscany/java/sca: container.java/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/java/mock/ container.js/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/js/mock/ core/src

2006-03-10 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 10, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: Jeremy, I'm in the process of trying to check in changes for multiplicity but some of the changes you just did impacted me. I need to create references between components and set the multiplicity value. Can you explain

Re: svn commit: r384939 - in /incubator/tuscany/java/sca: container.java/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/java/mock/ container.js/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/js/mock/ core/src

2006-03-10 Thread Jim Marino
since I can't commit any of the changes that fix the broken HelloWorld. Jim On Mar 10, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: Jeremy, I'm in the process of trying to check in changes for multiplicity but some of the changes you just

Re: svn commit: r384939 - in /incubator/tuscany/java/sca: container.java/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/java/mock/ container.js/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/js/mock/ core/src

2006-03-10 Thread Jim Marino
PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: O.K. My stuff is completely broke because I'm assuming there is one configured reference with multiple target configured services and that's how I originally had the mock factories. I think this is correct. Jeremy is that not what you were thinking

Re: [VOTE] Remove old contrib directory?

2006-03-11 Thread Jim Marino
+1 On Mar 11, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: This directory contains the seed code from BEA and IBM. Things have moved on quite a bit since then so I would like to suggest we remove this code from the tree - old versions can still be found in the SVN history if needed. This tree has

autowiring and registering aggregate components

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Marino
I'm currently doing work on allowing arbitrarily deep registration of aggregate contexts. As part of this work, I need to make autowiring complete lazily. So, if you need to make changes in these areas, please coordinate with me so we don't step on one another. Jim

extensive rename change

2006-03-14 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, I made an extensive rename of RuntimeConfiguration to ContextFactory and RuntimeConfigurationBuilder to ContextFactoryBuilder since it is more descriptive of what those classes actually do. This forced a number of renames upstream and hence the rather large commit I just did. Sorry

nested aggregate hierarchies

2006-03-14 Thread Jim Marino
I committed another round of changes to allow registration of arbitrarily deep aggregate hierarchies. Prior to this, we had to do the following: 1. Register a module component with an empty module 2. Register the module component's module 3. Locate the context associated with the module

Re: Creating a new binding

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Marino
I believe they based the integration on what was there prior to the introduction of the new core architecture, including aggregates and builders. If I recall correctly, TuscanyModuleComponentContextImpl was used, which no longer exists. The best place to start may be to look at some of

promotion of projects to the core

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, I wanted to raise the issue of how projects are promoted to the core set of projects in the Java SCA runtime. IMO adding a project to java/sca is a commitment by the community for long-term support. Because of this, I would like to propose that prior to promoting a project to

Re: ModuleScopeContext.start lifecycleState ?

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Marino
Yes, RUNNING is set when the module scope event starts (see onEvent (int type, Object key) ). This may be a bit confusing, in which case we could change the name. Jim On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:04 AM, rick rineholt wrote: Looking through parts of the code and I notice

Re: Data flow on a wire

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: A couple of us had an offline chat about what the format of data would be exchanged on the wire during an interaction between a client and a provider. The spur for this was the JSON binding Ant was working on which has no obvious affinity to

Re: Autowire algorithm

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Marino
Jeremy did you start this or do you want me to do it? Jim On Mar 8, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I'm not quite sure what the autowire algorithm is but the best I've figured out is: * The root RuntimeContext autowires to itself for services it provides and if not found delegates

Re: Project structure

2006-03-21 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 20, 2006, at 11:45 PM, ant elder wrote: On 3/21/06, James F Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ 3. I would like to see a process where contributions first go into a sandbox and are worked on for some time prior to being put in extensions. It would be good to have a discussion (not

Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-21 Thread Jim Marino
thread :-) Yes that's another issue we need to tackle -- Jeremy Jim Marino wrote: I have an additional question. If I have a custom complex type, say Foo (:-)) what steps do I need to take to have that bound into a component property for the StAX and SDO approaches e.g.: public class

Re: json-rpc binding

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
This seems interesting but I have a few questions, which are not really important but arise from curiosity: I'm curious if you thought about making this look more like SCA Client Implementation specs? For example, it may be convenient to have the APIs look more like the Java CI spec such

Re: Data flow on a wire

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 22, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: A couple of us have started to discuss this as well in relation to Celtix...My main concerns, which there appears to be agreement, are: 1. We are not instituting a canonical form model similar to JBI in the runtime. I

Re: Data flow on a wire

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Jim Marino wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: A couple of us have started to discuss this as well in relation to Celtix...My main concerns, which there appears to be agreement, are: 1. We are not instituting

Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
My recollection - Frank let me know if this is incorrect - was that the SDO impl would not necessarily be EMF-free but that it would hide implementation details. For the Java runtime, the goal was to be EMF-free from the perspective that the runtime would not contain direct dependencies on

Re: A release for JavaOne?

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: ant elder wrote: +1 to having a release from me. Having to build Tuscany themselves does put people off trying it - first installing maven and svn and downloading all the dependencies etc - having a binary download would help a

Re: A release for JavaOne?

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
I think having multiple bindings is a good thing for JavaOne and perhaps we will get lucky and be able to show some interop. Let's see how things go next week. Jim On Mar 22, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: Jim, 4. Additional bindings to Axis through integration with Celtix,

Re: json-rpc binding

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
-level interception so I imagine this would be theoretically possible in Java/ECMAScript. ...ant On 3/22/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems interesting but I have a few questions, which are not really important but arise from curiosity: I'm curious if you thought about

Re: A release for JavaOne?

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Marino
That's great. Perhaps we could look at that as part of the Axis cleanup work which needs to be done? Jim On Mar 22, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Jim, Axis2+Sandesha has already been thru WS-Addressing Interop and WS-RM Interop using both SOAP 1.1 and SOAP 1.2 (specifically

Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Ant, I'm having trouble figuring out where you are coming down on this - maybe I'm just brain-dead this morning. You mention at the beginning that you are starting to be persuaded by the SDO approach but then you give the Axis example at the end which seems to say either keep things

Fwd: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Marino
Resending since this didn't go through... Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 23, 2006 11:53:12 AM PST To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading There has been a lot of discussion on this topic and Jeremy's point

Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Marino
There has been a lot of discussion on this topic and Jeremy's point brings up an issue I think needs to be fleshed out. Specifically, what are the requirements and priorities for loading configuration. Could we perhaps take the following approach? 1. Agree on the requirements and their

Re: Requirements for SCA Cconfiguration

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Marino
I had a bunch of additional things and organized slightly differently. Do you think it would make sense to create a set of requirements in absolute priority order and fold these into that? Jim On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I think the loading discussion has been

Fwd: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Marino
I'm forwarding this due to problems with my GMail setup... Jim Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 24, 2006 10:31:20 AM PST To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading I think there may be some issues uncovered

Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Marino
to be a typical example of someone who wants to extend the container and has a bunch of questions :-) We really are just trying to leverage the Tuscany generator to do XML binding here ... our config loader does not need to be a fully compliant SDO application. Thanks, Frank. Jim Marino [EMAIL

Re: How do we handle SCA properties (was: Framework for StAX-based model loading)

2006-03-28 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: [snip] Thanks Frank for answering these questions. I have a few more that maybe you or others could offer opinions on. On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Frank Budinsky wrote: I don't know much about how the sca

Re: How do we handle SCA properties

2006-03-28 Thread Jim Marino
On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: [snip] Thanks Frank for answering these questions. I have a few more that maybe you or others could offer opinions on. On Mar

Re: Too soon for a user mailing list?

2006-03-28 Thread Jim Marino
This sounds like a good idea although we should probably state all of the warnings about not using the Java runtime for anything serious yet :-) BTW, this reminds me, I remember there was a thread on getting WIKI docs up. I don't want to cross threads here, but I thought they were related

Re: Does SDO 2.0 have logging capability such as JSR47?

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Marino
In the SCA Java runtime, we've implemented a logging approach where a class that needs to perform logging requests a monitor that implements a particular interface. This interface has methods for logging that are strongly typed, i.e. serverStartError(InitException e). The runtime is

Re: Framework for StAX-based model loading

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Marino
+1 too On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: I think this this is a really good approach and will give us a great binding/extension story

Re: Exception handling in SCA Java

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Marino
On Apr 5, 2006, at 6:45 PM, rick rineholt wrote: I may have missed it but what is our error and exception handling strategy in java Tuscany? Working on some of the demos I can say that we really need to strive hard to provide the context that these happen. As an end user I think I'd really

Re: import *

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Marino
Yea I think you're right. I didn't even notice it - I'll fix them now. On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim I think you said you recently switched to IDEA and I think that resulted in some import ...*; declarations creeping in during your refactor. I thought this came

Re: Does SDO 2.0 have logging capability such as JSR47?

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Marino
Jim Marino wrote: In the SCA Java runtime, we've implemented a logging approach where a class that needs to perform logging requests a monitor that implements a particular interface. This interface has methods for logging that are strongly typed, i.e. serverStartError(InitException

Fwd: Does SDO 2.0 have logging capability such as JSR47?

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Marino
In case this didn't get through gmail... Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: April 7, 2006 10:02:21 AM PDT To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Does SDO 2.0 have logging capability such as JSR47? I agree we need to add more logging (but not too much imo

Re: Does SDO 2.0 have logging capability such as JSR47?

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Marino
to get that off my chest - sorry for the noise. -- Jeremy Jim Marino wrote: In the SCA Java runtime, we've implemented a logging approach where a class that needs to perform logging requests a monitor that implements a particular interface. This interface has methods for logging

Re: import *

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Marino
Yea for some reason it was set at 5 and it nicely changed things for me. I cleaned the stuff up and gave IntelliJ a good trout-slapping. Jim On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim I think you said you recently switched to IDEA and I think that resulted in some import

Re: How should application components access SDO Helpers?

2006-04-11 Thread Jim Marino
I generally tend to prefer the last option as well. The second is kind of bad in my opinion as it ties an application to the internal implementation of the runtime. The first requires the runtime to have knowledge for every type. As an alternative, what if we supported @Resource from

Re: svn commit: r393402 - /incubator/tuscany/java/sca/model/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/model/scdl/loader/impl/SCDLAssemblyModelLoaderImpl.java

2006-04-12 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, I had a quick question about this class: why does it throw IllegalArgumentException on lines 49 and 52 as opposed to another type of exception? Jim On Apr 12, 2006, at 12:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: antelder Date: Wed Apr 12 00:07:23 2006 New Revision: 393402 URL:

Re: svn commit: r393402 - /incubator/tuscany/java/sca/model/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/model/scdl/loader/impl/SCDLAssemblyModelLoaderImpl.java

2006-04-12 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, I had a quick question about this class: why does it throw IllegalArgumentException on lines 49 and 52 as opposed to another type of exception? Jim On Apr 12, 2006, at 12:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: antelder Date: Wed Apr 12 00:07:23 2006 New Revision: 393402 URL:

Fwd: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-13 Thread Jim Marino
In case this didn't go through again... Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: April 13, 2006 9:47:07 AM PDT To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany? A couple of comments: - I like the demos vs. samples since that kind

Re: Component replacement and random thoughts....

2006-04-13 Thread Jim Marino
The following info may be somewhat related to this discussion For the recursive proposal under consideration in the spec, there is a way to specify a composite property which can be a complex type. Child components may have properties configured using an XPath expression that point to

Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-13 Thread Jim Marino
On the BigBank issue, I don't think we should replace that sample as the spec group will continue to evolve it and I believe it is useful to have the spec define a standard sample app. For people that have not participated in the spec work, it is recognized that the existing version does

Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-13 Thread Jim Marino
On Apr 13, 2006, at 7:18 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: ant elder wrote: Here are some specific ideas to kick around: 1) how about calling business samples 'demos' and technology samples just 'samples' I tend to agree with Simon that there could be a perception that demos are just

Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-14 Thread Jim Marino
yea I do - we had some stuff on a loan approval process. Let me check on the legal issues and perhaps we can post it here. Jim On Apr 13, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On the BigBank issue, I don't think we should replace that sample as the spec group

Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-14 Thread Jim Marino
are didactic in nature. On 4/13/06, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On the BigBank issue, I don't think we should replace that sample as the spec group will continue to evolve it and I believe it is useful to have the spec define a standard sample app. For people

Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-14 Thread Jim Marino
are didactic in nature. On 4/13/06, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On the BigBank issue, I don't think we should replace that sample as the spec group will continue to evolve it and I believe it is useful to have the spec define a standard sample app

Re: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-14 Thread Jim Marino
are didactic in nature. On 4/13/06, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On the BigBank issue, I don't think we should replace that sample as the spec group will continue to evolve it and I believe it is useful to have the spec define a standard sample app

Re: Make default Scope for system components MODULE

2006-04-14 Thread Jim Marino
I believe so. +1 from me too. Jim On Apr 14, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: The default scope for system components currently matches that from the Java CI spec as being INSTANCE All the components we have are MODULE scoped and need to specify

Re: Testing, was: What are some good samples for Tuscany?

2006-04-15 Thread Jim Marino
On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: ant elder wrote: Moving some of the testing discussion out of the samples thread... Its not completely clear to me what the distinction is between 'technology samples' and functional tests. There are some JavaScript samples in the

Re: Proposal to remove CompositeContext.registerModelObjects()

2006-04-16 Thread Jim Marino
I don't think we use this anymore either. I think I originally put this in there as a convenience method when registering a bunch of things. +1 to remove. This reminds me we are going to need to figure out how to dynamically add bunch of things as a unit of work, but I guess we can deal

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