[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-10 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: Note that you had to select two things here: Subscript and Automatic. But if you select text and want to make it a subscript, you right-click on it and select only Subscript. One thing. If you want to create a new character style that only subscripts things, you need

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-10 Thread Scott Meyers
Joe Smith wrote: On the style definition dialog, at the bottom, there is a button labeled Standard. Clicking that button will remove the style properties set by that tab of the dialog. I knew that I had run some experiments on the behavior of the standard and reset buttons and had seen the

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-10 Thread Joe Smith
Scott Meyers wrote: ... I really do try to consult the documentation before posting, but I rarely find what I am looking for. Even now that I better understand what the Standard button on the paragraph and character style dialogs does, I can't find a description of it in the online help, the

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-10 Thread Scott Meyers
Joe Smith wrote: The best resource I know of is the one you're using right now: user-to-user QA, either here, or one of the web forums: UCF: http://user.services.openoffice.org OOoForum: http://www.oooforum.org I read this list via the Gmane newsgroup interface, which I find vastly

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-10 Thread Michele Zarri
I really do try to consult the documentation before posting, but I rarely find what I am looking for. Even now that I better understand what the Standard button on the paragraph and character style dialogs does, I can't find a description of it in the online help, the OO Writer Guide,

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-10 Thread Joe Smith
Scott Meyers wrote: Joe Smith wrote: The best resource I know of is the one you're using right now: user-to-user QA, either here, or one of the web forums: UCF: http://user.services.openoffice.org OOoForum: http://www.oooforum.org I read this list via the Gmane newsgroup interface, which I

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: I went to delete my Subscript character style, which I did not think I was using. OO warned me: You are deleting an applied style! Okay, I'll have to find where I'm using it. I went to Font Effects for the style and added Blinking, then scrolled through the document.

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: I went to delete my Subscript character style, which I did not think I was using. OO warned me: You are deleting an applied style! Okay, I'll have to find where I'm using it. I went to Font Effects for the style and added Blinking, then scrolled through the document.

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Scott Meyers
Jim Allan wrote: You must also check “including styles” in the “Find and Replace” dialog box. That makes no difference for me -- I still find nothing. Does it work for you? Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: Jim Allan wrote: You must also check “including styles” in the “Find and Replace” dialog box. That makes no difference for me -- I still find nothing. Does it work for you? I created some text. I selected the character style “Strong Emphasis”. I applied the style to

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Scott Meyers
Jim Allan wrote: Try doing exactly the same thing. If it works, then go from there and see if you can discover why your previous test didn’t work. Please try your test again, this time using subscripting instead of blinking. I find that I can search and find blinking text when I do what you

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: Please try your test again, this time using subscripting instead of blinking. I find that I can search and find blinking text when I do what you do, but I can't find subscripted text. I created a character style from “Default” and named it “Subscript”. I applied it to

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Scott Meyers
Jim Allan wrote: Everything is working just as I expect on my system. Unfortunately, there’s not much more I can do. At least you can be assured that this all does work. Thanks you for your extremely detailed instructions. I believe that things work now. But I also believe that they are

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-09 Thread Joe Smith
Scott Meyers wrote: Jim Allan wrote: My technique depends on the fact that, at least for me, this normally doesn’t matter. I can normally change a style to red color from automatic color, and then change it back to automatic My point is that you can't do this. Once you've selected

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:54:22 -0700 Scott Meyers wrote: Naomi Kramer wrote: Yes, but... it's a pain in the bum. It is possible to go into the xml behind a document, open the styles information and modify (insert screams of horror from readers). In my experience, best bet is to delete the

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Uwe Fischer
Hi, Scott Meyers wrote: ... and replace it with a different character style. My sense is that the best you can do if you want to modify character style X that's been applied is: 1. Create a new style Y that you want to use to replace X. 2. Manually go through your document looking

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Scott Meyers
Uwe Fischer wrote: you can search and replace styles in the Find Replace dialog. Click More Options, then check Search for Styles checkbox. Unfortunately, that works only for paragraph styles. I sent the following post on April 3, but now I can't find it, so maybe it got lost somewhere

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: I know how to search for paragraph styles, but how can I search for character styles? For example, I have a character style called Publication Title, and I want to find all text in my document where that style is applied. How can I do that? From Googling around, I get

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Scott Meyers
Jim Allan wrote: Once you’ve found whatever you were searching for, or fixed whatever you wanted to fix, then change the style back again. The problem is that the only way (I know of) to change the style back again is to edit the XML file describing the style. As has been discussed here

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Jim Allan
Scott Meyers wrote: The problem is that the only way (I know of) to change the style back again is to edit the XML file describing the style. As has been discussed here already, OO has no mechanism within the program to remove characteristics from a character style. Once you've added a

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Scott Meyers
Jim Allan wrote: My technique depends on the fact that, at least for me, this normally doesn’t matter. I can normally change a style to red color from automatic color, and then change it back to automatic My point is that you can't do this. Once you've selected something, there's no way

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Michele Zarri
Hello, A collection of issues related to this discussion: Switching automatically to the character style page in the styles and formatting when text is highlighted http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=15332 Strange behaviour when creating a new character style from selection

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-08 Thread Scott Meyers
Jim Allan wrote: You would creating very unusual documents if there is no searchable feature that you know you would never use in your text (such as “blinking” perhaps?) All you need is one searchable feature that you won't use otherwise than for searching styles. I went to delete my

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-07 Thread Naomi Kramer
Scott Meyers wrote: Is there a way to remove character characteristics from a character style? For example, given the character style I created from a selection above (Light Red + Georgia + 11pt), is there a way for me to remove the 11pt specification so that the resulting style is Light Red

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-07 Thread Scott Meyers
Naomi Kramer wrote: Yes, but... it's a pain in the bum. It is possible to go into the xml behind a document, open the styles information and modify (insert screams of horror from readers). In my experience, best bet is to delete the character style and recreate it, taking extreme care to NOT

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-07 Thread Naomi Kramer
Scott Meyers wrote: Thanks for the information, I didn't know about the hack the XML option. Regarding deleting character styles, the problem with this approach is that once the style is deleted, any text to which that style was applied reverts to the default. Combined with the fact that

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-04 Thread Michele
When I try to set the Linked with filed of a character style to Default, I'm told This Style cannot be used as a base Style, because it would result in a recursive reference. I don't know how that can be, since it would require that the Default style refer to the styles linked to it, but

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-04 Thread Scott Meyers
Michele wrote: I was thinking of character styles, but clearly I am mistaken. Please accept my apologies. No worries, you've always been very helpful :-) Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Michele Zarri
Well, this is what I see. I select some text, change it to red, and create a Red character style from the selected text. I then select text in a footnote and apply the Red character style. The text size changes in addition to its color. I then select text which already has the First

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Michele Zarri
Well, this is what I see. I select some text, change it to red, and create a Red character style from the selected text. I then select text in a footnote and apply the Red character style. The text size changes in addition to its color. I then select text which already has the First

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Meyers
Michele Zarri wrote: In order to achieve your desired result (e.g. change only one property) and still being able to create styles from selection, you will need to make the change you want to a section of text formatted with default character. In this case it will all work. This does not seem

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:08:37 -0700 Scott Meyers wrote: Michele Zarri wrote: In order to achieve your desired result (e.g. change only one property) and still being able to create styles from selection, you will need to make the change you want to a section of text formatted with default

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Meyers
Michael Adams wrote: IS Georgia + 11pt an earlier change you made to the default character style? I do not know this as the default. (Times New Roman + 12pt is what i'd expect to see here). OO says my default font is 12 pt Georgia. Scott

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Michele
[snip] Is there a way to remove character characteristics from a character style? For example, given the character style I created from a selection above (Light Red + Georgia + 11pt), is there a way for me to remove the 11pt specification so that the resulting style is Light Red + Georgia? I

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Meyers
Michele wrote: Basically to remove Georgia (if this is your default character style), in the organizer tab link the custom style to the default style. When I try to set the Linked with filed of a character style to Default, I'm told This Style cannot be used as a base Style, because it would

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-02 Thread Scott Meyers
Michele wrote: Just guessing (actually it would be much more useful if I spent time trying rather than typing this email (-: ): have you tried putting 100% in the font size box? I just tried. It doesn't seem to exhibit the behavior I want, e.g., applying the resulting style to footnote text

Re: [users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-02 Thread Michele
Just guessing (actually it would be much more useful if I spent time trying rather than typing this email (-: ): have you tried putting 100% in the font size box? I just tried. It doesn't seem to exhibit the behavior I want, e.g., applying the resulting style to footnote text

[users] Re: Writer: Character Style Questions

2008-04-02 Thread Scott Meyers
Michele wrote: I also tried reproduce the problem and I will make another guess: When applying a character style OOo only applies those settings that are *in the character style definition* different compared to the default character. Well, this is what I see. I select some text, change it to