Re: Fw: vihuelina

2005-05-21 Thread bill kilpatrick
t; From: Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: bill kilpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:38 AM > Subject: Re: vihuelina > > > > This came up some time ago on Lutenet. This is the > message which a Spanish > > speaking member sent us

Fw: vihuelina

2005-05-21 Thread Monica Hall
Sorry - I forgot to send this message to the list as well as Bill. I'm always doing that. Monica - Original Message - From: Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bill kilpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:38 AM Subject: Re: vihuelina > This c

Re: vihuelina

2005-05-21 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
Dear Monica How do we know about the guitar in re-entrant tuning in 16th c. Spain? There is this one reference in Mudarra: '...a de tener bordon en la quarta'. It may be the only information we have. That's a reason to be cautious with interpretations. Apparently we agree on the notion that the wo

Re: vihuelina

2005-05-20 Thread Monica Hall
- Original Message - From: Lex Eisenhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: vihuela Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: Re: vihuelina > > My question is: can we be sure about the use of the word 'bordon' with > Mudarra

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2005-05-20 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- Lex Eisenhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is this important? Mudarra's remark would be by > far the earliest > reference to a guitar in re-entrant tuning. Bermudo > discusses the high > strings that accompany the usual (?) low ones. > Mudarra would be the first to > do the opposite. pla

Re: vihuelina

2005-05-20 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
My question is: can we be sure about the use of the word 'bordon' with Mudarra? Note that Covarrubias (1611) is so much later than Mudarra. With Agazzari, in 1606, 'bordoni' could mean bass string rather than 'octave that sounds below'. According to The New Grove the word was also in use with bowe

Re: vihuelina

2005-05-19 Thread Monica Hall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: vihuela Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: vihuelina > > > There are a few loose ends in the discussion on 4c guitar tuning. Just my > 0,02 Yuan: > > - Mudarra seems to be the only one from Spain, speaking of the 'bordon'. > Bermudo

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2005-05-18 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
There are a few loose ends in the discussion on 4c guitar tuning. Just my 0,02 Yuan: - Mudarra seems to be the only one from Spain, speaking of the 'bordon'. Bermudo (if I am right) only speaks of 'requintas', courses now tuned in octaves, formerly in fifths (!). The next writer from Spain (???)