Re: my internet problem

2002-04-13 Thread A. Daniel King
In a mixed network, TCP/IP is nearly a must. There is no more commonly spoken network language out there. The key word here is 'mixed'. DHCP is a luxury, but good if you can do it. It's worth the setup time if you've got machines coming and going. You can tell most DHCP servers to allocate a

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread rlf9
Vintage Macs wrote... From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my internet problem At 01:59 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: Yet another reason not to use 7.5 or higher, since VM before 8.1 was awful. How would you characterize VM in 8.1 and later, then? Bob F -- Vintage Macs

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- rlf9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vintage Macs wrote... From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my internet problem At 01:59 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: Yet another reason not to use 7.5 or higher, since VM before 8.1 was awful. How would you characterize VM

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 02:12 AM, the pickle wrote: You shouldn't be running VM if at all possible anyway. Yet another reason not to use 7.5 or higher, since VM before 8.1 was awful. I don't, I was just making the point :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 02:11 AM, the pickle wrote: At 02:55 +0200 on 10/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: System 6 makes a whole lot of difference. You won't believe how much better it is than system 7 at I/O stuff. It is a totally superior server OS. I can't help it. It is

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 03:45 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Sys 6 is all well and good if you have a 1990 or earlier machine. It Aren't those the machines this list is all about? I quote from the FAQ...: Vintage Macs is a forum for users of 68020 and 68030-based Macintosh

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread the pickle
At 02:37 -0400 on 10/04/02, rlf9 wrote: How would you characterize VM in 8.1 and later, then? Not quite as bad. :) It didn't really get *useful* until about 8.5-ish, but 8.1 is where I quit using RAM Doubler and switched to Apple's VM for most stuff. the pickle FAQ

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread the pickle
At 10:52 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: I am trying to provide a solution I can easily hook another OS X machine or a PC too should I have to. I am trying to create a flexible network infrastructure not just a bit of wet string to talk to a few Macs. I apologise again for swearing at you

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 12:49 PM, the pickle wrote: Yes. You didn't say anything like the following before. AppleTalk for file sharing but also use other *internal* TCP/IP services, such as my Intranet server on MY LCIII. If you can make iCab work via AppleTalk without TCP/IP so

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread the pickle
At 13:12 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: I have definitely mentioned needing ahd having internal http somewhere. I'm pretty sure you managed to hide it from Eagle and myself if you did :-p trying to share the internet around this network (the whole point of this thread - see the internet

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 01:18 PM, the pickle wrote: At 13:12 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: I have definitely mentioned needing ahd having internal http somewhere. I'm pretty sure you managed to hide it from Eagle and myself if you did :-p I quote (again) from a previous

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Eagle
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 08:18 , the pickle wrote: At 13:12 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: I have definitely mentioned needing ahd having internal http somewhere. I'm pretty sure you managed to hide it from Eagle and myself if you did :-p trying to share the internet around

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Marten van de Kraats
The thread started by the list nanny began with this text: I'm looking for a 56k modem for my LCIII or IIci. I don't have the IIci yet but it eventually takes over as my server when I get it because 7.1 has less crap in it, which while being a bit limp as a desktop OS makes it ideal for a

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread rlf9
Vintage Macs wrote... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 02:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my internet problem In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- rlf9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vintage Macs wrote... From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my internet

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 03:12 PM, Eagle wrote: However, we were originally saying that *DNS* is not necessary when Internet connectivity is nonexistent. That is indeed true: you can use hosts files on each machine, but it does get tedius. You can set up any machine in your network

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-10 Thread Randy Beaudreault
So got any tips for configuring NAMED? -- Mark Benson Yep, just do some slight mods to the NetBSD files and you're up and running. :) -- Randy OS X - UNIX for the rest of us NetBSD - Catch the Power! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Mark Benson
I'm looking for a 56k modem for my LCIII or IIci. I don't have the IIci yet but it eventually takes over as my server when I get it because 7.1 has less crap in it, which while being a bit limp as a desktop OS makes it ideal for a server. If anyone has one that will work in the UK or knows

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On dinsdag, april 9, 2002, at 10:16 , Mark Benson wrote: I'm looking for a 56k modem for my LCIII or IIci. I don't have the IIci yet but it eventually takes over as my server when I get it because 7.1 has less crap in it, which while being a bit limp as a desktop OS makes it ideal for a

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 12:04 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: 1. I understand you use a LCIII as a server, but you want to replace it with a IIci because, you want to run 7.1. Why don't you install 7.1 on your LCIII? It only needs a tiny enabler to run that. I know that, it

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On woensdag, april 10, 2002, at 01:43 , Mark Benson wrote: BTW 7.1 won't make your server any faster. Yes it will, it frees up lots of RAM by getting rid of stupid unnecessary extensions I have found I can't turn off for one reason or another in 7.6.1. It also uses less RAM itself and

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 01:03 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: That may all be true, but it won't improve the speed of file serving with system 7. Yes but in that case System 6 won't do much for it either because it ultimately depends on the hardware, a you rightly say. A 68k Mac

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread the pickle
At 00:43 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: Yes it will, it frees up lots of RAM by getting rid of stupid unnecessary extensions I have found I can't turn off for one reason or another in 7.6.1. It also uses less RAM itself and has less CPU overhead when running idle. Now you're starting to

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Marten van de Kraats
That may all be true, but it won't improve the speed of file serving with system 7. Yes but in that case System 6 won't do much for it either because it ultimately depends on the hardware, a you rightly say. A 68k Mac struggles to saturate 10baseT anyway (unless it's a late Quadra, that

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 01:45 AM, the pickle wrote: At 00:43 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: Yes it will, it frees up lots of RAM by getting rid of stupid unnecessary extensions I have found I can't turn off for one reason or another in 7.6.1. It also uses less RAM itself

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On woensdag, april 10, 2002, at 02:45 , the pickle wrote: Good luck getting 6 running on an LC III anyway :) You are not going to need luck if you replace the LCIII with a IIci, which was the idea in the first place. -- Check out the

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Mark Benson
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 01:55 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Yes but in that case System 6 won't do much for it either because it ultimately depends on the hardware, a you rightly say. A 68k Mac struggles to saturate 10baseT anyway (unless it's a late Quadra, that can saturate

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread the pickle
At 02:55 +0200 on 10/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: System 6 makes a whole lot of difference. You won't believe how much better it is than system 7 at I/O stuff. It is a totally superior server OS. I can't help it. It is just the truth. System 7 is very inefficient. Marten: open your

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread the pickle
At 01:59 +0100 on 10/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: Of course, simply freeing up RAM won't make file sharing any faster. It does if it means there is RAM free to pass thru out going files. If no RAM is free then the machine has to free it by moving stuff from the RAM to VM and then sending the

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On woensdag, april 10, 2002, at 03:11 , the pickle wrote: Marten: open your freaking eyes already. System 6 doesn't run on any Macs made after about 1991. And since when is the IIci a Mac made after about 1991? -- Check out the

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On woensdag, april 10, 2002, at 03:09 , Mark Benson wrote: System 6 makes a whole lot of difference. You won't believe how much better it is than system 7 at I/O stuff. It is a totally superior server OS. I can't help it. It is just the truth. System 7 is very inefficient. Yes, you could

Re: my internet problem

2002-04-09 Thread rlf9
Subject: Re: my internet problem From: Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My server runs 7.6.1 and goes and goes and goes and.. you get the idea. I have 3 System 7 machines (LC - 7.0.1 from it's original install disks, SE/30 - 7.1, LCIII