This just out at PhysOrg... (see at bottom of msg)
What I find funny, in a sad kind of way, is the following statement:
So you have one set of data that tells you the mass-dependence picture doesn't
work and another
that tells you the density-dependence picture doesn't work, Arrington
on Friday, November 20, 2009 2:41:11 AM Mark Iverson said
the discussion about chain reactions in LENR-type experiments...
Not sure if I got the below reference from vortex-l or not, but, in a general
sense, it seems that
it is saying that under certain conditions, normally incoherent
On Nov 19, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Mark Iverson wrote:
This just out at PhysOrg... (see at bottom of msg)
What I find funny, in a sad kind of way, is the following statement:
So you have one set of data that tells you the mass-dependence
picture doesn't work and another
that tells you the
I hope you enjoyed my paper “The Control of the Natural Forces” published
in Infinite Energy in Sept Oct 09. This paper was a story of cold fusion,
technology, and the hydrogen atom. It took what was learned from
experiments in cold fusion and applied it to the structure of the hydrogen
Steven V Johnson wrote:
Mauro sez:
This is a good summary.
Maybe you could publish a version of it somewhere at lenr-canr.org. It
surely will not hurt, and could help first comers with doubts about the
validity of the sources and the information presented.
...
I agree!
Write it up, Jed!
Jed
I agree with all you said. You certainly don't have to be at the
defensive, justifying all your actions. This is specially so when you have
done nothing wrong.
But cold fusion is a controversial field, and sadly with a bad reputation.
This comes for a number of reasons, some of which are
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Personally, I'd probably want to verify in some way that the
document has actually been published. That could have been a leaked
draft, for example.
If it were a leaked draft it would say DRAFT or Do not circulate.
This has a document number assigned, an
Mauro Lacy wrote:
But cold fusion is a controversial field, and sadly with a bad reputation.
That is not the fault of the cold fusion researchers, and there is
nothing they -- or I -- can do about it. Acting defensively as if we
have something to apologize for, or as if we need a extra
Jed sez:
Steven V Johnson wrote:
Mauro sez:
This is a good summary.
Maybe you could publish a version of it somewhere at
lenr-canr.org. It surely will not hurt, and could help
first comers with doubts about the validity of the sources
and the information presented.
...
I agree!
On this point I'm reminded of the Oppenheimer-Phillips effect. Heavy
nuclei, under deuteron bombardment, undergo nuclear transmutation
short of the energy required to overcome the Coulomb barrier. A
deuteron is the most polarized nucleus, being possible to conceive of
as something like a
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre5aj3d3-us-italy-galileo-find/
Apparently body parts and teeth from Galileo were cut from his corpse by
scientists during a burial ceremony held after his death in 1642. End of
story? Don't count on that.
DNA from teeth and hair can be extracted, multiplied and
so basically, london forces inside the protons? rock on.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
This just out at PhysOrg... (see at bottom of msg)
What I find funny, in a sad kind of way, is the following statement:
So you have one set of data that tells
You know, as a writer, I'm tempted to take that final line as a
challenge. The only question, do i make the shroud be actually stains
of christ, or some other dude?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Jones sez:
...
Of course, there is *zero assurance* that the “clone of a genius” will
follow in the footsteps of the progenitor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_from_Brazil_(film)
Speaking of cloning, don't forget Sir Lawrence of Olivier
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Jones Beene wrote:
BTW -- the implications of cloned DNA from the Shroud of Turin has
already been explored in (poorly written) fiction.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
In their book The Second Messiah: Templars, the Turin Shroud and the
Great Secret of Freemasonry,
Of course, there is *zero assurance* that the clone of a genius will
follow in the footsteps of the progenitor, and likewise rise to the same
level of accomplishment
I dare to make a prediction: if human cloning is achieved and done(and we
all know it will be, in some not so distant future)
yeah, i see that from the wikipedia link in another reply. Very
interesting. That could make a better plot. A subgroup of the
illuminati (who are actually the templars, don't ya know) attempt to
clone one of their previous grandmasters, only it turns out that the
shroud actually WAS the image of
Steven V Johnson wrote:
But IMHO, it seems to me that occasionally you DO care what others
think.
I care what some people think. Especially intelligence analysts. My
point is that it would be politically inept to bring up these issues
on LENR-CANR.org. Imagine a contractor shows up at your
This brings up the nature vs nurture debate - BUT - also let's update the
scenario in a modern techno-context ... IOW don't overlook that fact that we
are approaching a future where, due to artificial intelligence and expert
systems, it might be possible to maximize both nature and nurture - at
Jed sez:
But IMHO, it seems to me that occasionally you DO care what
others think.
I care what some people think. Especially intelligence analysts.
My point is that it would be politically inept to bring up
these issueson LENR-CANR.org. Imagine a contractor shows up at
your door to do an
Hey, I like it. Throw in that they also clone his wife Mary Magdeline and
use her to extort Jesus for control of the earth. The Sufi's clone Mohammed
and together he and Jesus rescue Mary and destroy the Illuminati forever.
Terry
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Alexander Hollins
actually if it was the shroud jesus was buried in, it WOULD have
the tears of mary on it somewhere, as well as skin cells where she
grabbed it, twisting it in her hands, her grief so much that she loses
all sense of those around her.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Terry Blanton
I wrote:
This has a document number assigned, an UNCLASSIFIED status
notification, and a release date of 13 November 2009. That means it
is finished.
Also, Bev told me they are finished. Fini. Done. No more changes.
Closed. It was closed before Nov. 1, as I mentioned. I got the
impression
Steven V Johnson wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice to have something already prepared? Like
references? ...as well as why those who are saying I'm a crook
should be discounted?
I guess I could throw this document at 'em, couldn't I? Minus the
hoosegow part. People don't even know what that means
In fiction:
The Bad:
http://tinyurl.com/yl2z5aj
The Ugly:
http://www.armageddonbooks.com/clone.html
Not sure, but probably not good:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Jesus-Thief/J-R-Lankford/e/978097186941
7
In film (all ugly) The site name sez it all:
I was going to say, we've enough evidence of twins , seperated at
birth, brought up in very different environments, being very similar
to each other as adults.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
This brings up the nature vs nurture debate - BUT - also let's
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
Just hit the Drudgereport. Obviously, many remarks may be taken out of context
but it looks to be an embarassment for many Global warming scientists.
I would
Alexander Hollins wrote:
I was going to say, we've enough evidence of twins , seperated at
birth, brought up in very different environments, being very similar
to each other as adults.
I've heard that twins share a numer of startling coincidences in their
lives. Like naming their pets the
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118143211.htm
http://tinyurl.com/yacv5rm
... with overall emissions growing rapidly, the proportion of fossil-
fuel emissions absorbed by the oceans since 2000 may have declined by
as much as 10%.
Some climate models have already predicted
Steven Krivit wrote:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/
Uh ... That page seems to include the work and cell phone numbers of the
person with whom you've been corresponding at ONR. Is that appropriate?
Shouldn't the cell number, at least, be blacked out or something?
Sorry, I know that's
Steve:
I really don't think it was a good idea to post her phone msg transcript!
She must be itchin' to get fired... this will make it back to her superiors.
-Mark
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From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM
To:
Mark Iverson would like to recall the message, [Vo]:ONR Inspector General
Helps New Energy Times
Break Story.
attachment: winmail.dat
She must be one gutsy lady!
And a good moral compass and high degree of integrity...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:21 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times
Sorry for the confusion and concern folks
Adams mobile phone number got
disconnected after I spoke with her on Feb. 17 and stayed that way for some
time afterwards. I thought the number was dead, but it has been re-assigned.
Stephen, you're absolutely right. I failed to realize that I knew her
number had been disconnected the day after I last spoke with her, BUT
there's no way that you all would have known that.
Thank you,
Steve
At 08:20 PM 11/20/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
Steve wrote:
...but it has been re-assigned.
As has she...
Boy, they sure didn't waste any time did they! ;-)
That's whatcha get for tryin to do the right thing nowadays...
How did it get so bad?
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com]
Sent:
In a phone call with Adams in February, she was setting me up to break the
story then and there. She was suggesting that the story was going to break
big and implying to me that she was helping me to be the first to break it
by giving me favored treatment. You'll recall that, in fact, the story
Actually, I did not assume. I called Bev up and spoke with her about
publishing the document before I had done so. She did not have a problem
with me publishing it and she even gave me some suggestions as to how I
could find a copy. Very nice lady.
At 11:09 AM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
Steven
As a followup to this... Here's yet another example of the fact that there are
still many things
that modern science doesn't understand... and this is a weekly happening, if
not daily:
We are interested in seeing how these nanotube quantum dots work, and tracking
what happens in
them.
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