It will be interesting to see how well the stainless steel holds up. I tried a
stainless steel spoon as an electrode and it worked fairly well but eventually
began to rust. Perhaps the quality of steel makes a difference.
I have spend most of the last two days calibrating my system and
After stopping the experiment and watching the temp drop, I see I was
losing more heat than I thought. Taking this into account there appear to
have been times over 100% efficiency (not including losses of energy to
electrolysis). I saw a drop in temp of 2.5F in 60 mins after removing
power.
At 06:28 AM 10/15/2012, Jack Cole wrote:
Input power.
W = ((Amperage at Time 1 + Amperage at Time 2) / 2) * ((Voltage at
Time 1 + Voltage at Time 2) / 2) * (Minutes in interval / 60)
You are going to go nuts if you don't keep your units straight, and
don't keep in mind the difference
Thanks for the clarification. My intention there was to calculate
watt-hours and to convert that to BTU in the next step. Is this good
enough to get a rough estimate?
I know it would be much better to have a data logger and do the
measurements more frequently. I might do that at some point,
Greetings Vortex,
I just received an e-mail from a friend saying Popular Science November
issue was not kind to Rossi,
But I have not seen it yet.
Any Vortex members have seen it?
I will be going out to see it.
Is Popular Science relevant?
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex..will update
How is it possible that anyone can be simply kind to Rossi if he always
shoots his foot?
2012/10/15 Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com
Greetings Vortex,
I just received an e-mail from a friend saying Popular Science November
issue was not kind to Rossi,
But I have not seen it yet.
Any
All of this work is suspect. First of all, an intepretive issue.
First of all, the definition of COP.
COP (Coefficient of Performance): A measurement of the instantaneous
efficiency of heating or cooling equipment. It represents the
steady-state rate of energy output of the equipment divided
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.1854.pdf
This is a provocative paper - especially for those with imagination and
looking for anomalous energy in hydrides.
The 21 cm line could be of major causative interest here - but that is out
of the scope of this paper.
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At 01:04 AM 10/15/2012, David Roberson wrote:
It will be interesting to see how well the stainless steel holds
up. I tried a stainless steel spoon as an electrode and it worked
fairly well but eventually began to rust. Perhaps the quality of
steel makes a difference.
316L stainless steel
Abd,
Thanks for your explanation. That is very helpful.
Here is my raw data if you are interested.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmQQao2qEYIfdE9rTlplRVZ0STI0a1IwaGlXWVNWbGc
I do think chemistry is happening with the Borax.
Jack
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Abd ul-Rahman
Imagine a hydrogen molecule in a 10 nm dia. Casimir cavity.
Inside the cavity, there are a few virtual photon frequencies which are
suppressed due to the geometry. That is standard physics. These are EUV
equivalent frequencies.
If the lack of this background energy, is itself active for
Mr. Krivit (New Energy Times) has also updated his critical comments about
Mr. Rossi, and the result is not paywalled.
FYI.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Andrea-Rossi-Energy-Catalyzer-Investigation-Index.shtml
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
His 1st statement is also the only description of Rossi in the text. He
writes:
Andrea Rossi is a convicted white-collar criminal with a string of failed
energy ventures.
2012/10/15 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
Mr. Krivit (New Energy Times) has also updated his critical comments about
See:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/psi-vid/2012/10/14/the-believers-cold-fusion-at-the-chicago-international-film-festival/
I get a bad feeling about this documentary. I don't like the trailer.
- Jed
Yeah, reading her comments about the movie is a bit scary. She liked it for
putting a human face on the researchers of cold fusion, but not before
calling it a discovery...
2012/10/15 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
See:
Krivit wrote: Andrea Rossi is a convicted white-collar criminal with a
string of failed energy ventures.
This is a serious distortion. It should say that he was convicted of a
white-collar crime but later fully exonerated by the courts.
I do not know about the other failed energy ventures. I
If I remember correctly, Steve Krivit has stated he will ignore Rossi.
Anyway Rossi was not convicted for the E-Cat, just for promising to make
fuel from trash.
Peter
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
His 1st statement is also the only description of
I wrote:
This is a serious distortion. It should say that he was convicted of a
white-collar crime but later fully exonerated by the courts.
Whatever you think of Rossi, the legal facts are clear: he was fully
exonerated. Not pardoned; exonerated. Meaning that in the eyes of the law
he was
My pal Eli will be at the premiere in Chicago on Oct. 20 to check it out.
He's bringing some t-shirts and stickers for promo, perhaps to
counteract the negative slant.
We'll get an honest report from him afterwards.
I contacted the filmmakers about facilitating screenings at universities
Based on my own past associations with Mr. Krivt, he really likes to
bring it on. I think Krivit envisions himself as one of those scrappy
investigators that likes to stick it to his targets - like a festering
thorn. This tactic often seemed to have worked in past investigations.
However, it
See:
http://www.hugnetlab.com/celani2/
These are the people shown in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=26k3Cz3wW-8
- Jed
On 2012-10-15 20:58, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://www.hugnetlab.com/celani2/
Too bad the page loads very slowly when attempting to view more than the
previous 2 minutes of data shown. It looks like they're loading all data
points (1 per second) even when trying to view extended periods
One interesting observation that has come out of Russ’s experimentation so
far is that a large high energy electron charge persists for a long time
after an initiating high powered instantaneous spark discharge occurs.
Russ has seen charge ionization last for a very long time.
The signs that
I had an exciting afternoon. I replaced my control nickel with the 40 plus
hour heat treated one that resembles an old penny now and began electrolysis.
The reading of voltage was a bit unusual after the first hour of operation so I
replenished the water and added a little additional sodium
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Too bad the page loads very slowly when attempting to view more than the
previous 2 minutes of data shown.
I see what you mean. Let's tell them there is a problem.
It is probably a malfunction.
- Jed
Good stuff, couple of comments.
I think Papp used his surrounding coil to help remove the charged particles
to prevent the buildup he is seeing.
Are you sure those are only electrons creating the blue aurora? Many types
of cosmic charged particles should do that.
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097
In this paper:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZhangWSconstructia.pdf
. . . he complains about the Thermonetics calorimeter, which he used in
Dash's lab. See:
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DashSeebeckcloseup.jpg
-
Greetings Vortex-L
I quickly bought a copy of the November issue. The article is entitled:
Anderea Rossi s Black Box by Steven Featherstone.
Being a disciple and close friend of the late Dr Mallove, I must say that
with slow reading- the 7 page article is not to bad.
The intro is positive
Melatonin Research
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15485549
It is pretty well understood that dark matter and energy are striking earth
constantly in the form of Neutrinos and probably WIMPS - they are still
looking for them all pelting us during solar storms. In My research, I
believe have
Zhang also send me one of Ed's paper which he translated into Chinese. I
just corrected the title. It is listed in the most recent list:
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097
- Jed
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Krivit has felt this way with other individuals, including
one particularly vocal Vort member who begged to differ with
the investigative reporter's extensive analysis of McKubre's M4 data.
Who? Me? Krivit is silly about this.
I have an interesting addition to this report. After I cleaned up the deposits
and added water and electrolyte I let my experiment continue electrolysis. The
effect happened again with some interesting differences. I noticed that the
thin layer that coated the electrolyte bath came in the
Jed sez:
Krivit has felt this way with other individuals, including one
particularly vocal Vort member who begged to differ with the
investigative reporter's extensive analysis of McKubre's M4 data.
Who? Me? Krivit is silly about this. McKubre is pretty upset with him
though.
Nope! Not
Jed, I see where Mary YouKnow got her 2 cents in. I actually think
this may be a good documentary, and I stress the may be.
Bob
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
It's possible I'm being harder on Krivit than necessary.Nevertheless,
his handling or Rossi's broken English was the straw that really broke
the back for me.
That was tacky. Also, strangely old-fashioned. People used to do that
While it certainly makes sense that dark matter melatonin tablets would
carve out crop circles in the shape of their constituent molecules, this
only opens up even more enigmatic questions such as: Do the dark matter
melatonin pills come in 3mg or 10mg?
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:45 PM, ChemE
One final note that I want to include. I allowed the experiment to go into the
unusual mode for the third time and made some measurements. The electrolyte
was boiling as in the first two observations and I also noted sparks being
emitted.
Unfortunately, I let the system become too hot and
A. Xaaq -- zq q
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On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
Oustanding work Ruby.
Does anyone know which paper of Roy Stanley he is referring to. Sorry, I am
not very informed about some of the work Ed Storms is referring to.
Jojo
Keep us updated Dave, I never saw sparks in my experiments so you are onto
something new. I do remembers several events though, that are just as you
described, the voltage and current will just swing madly around as the
water boils and it will last as long as electrolyte is available. But
Jed sez:
...
In Japan people are also biased against regional and rural dialects,
which are rapidly disappearing. This may impact my retirement plans
for when I am 90, blind and wheelchair bound. I hope to spend my
remaining days ensconced in the back room of some seedy bar or
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Emeka Okafor emeka.oka...@gmail.com wrote:
A. Xaaq -- zq q
Sent from my iPhone
I guess it's more than the mapping s/w, eh?
5 Mg dosage works best. Why would some dumbass draw a Melatonin molecule
in a field?
I guess I could be boiling quarters or popping air with champion spark
plugs in my garage...
Does everybody realize how weird we all sound?
FYI, update on my Hurricane prediction from 9/25:
The Good:
Some of
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
Kowalski does not believe that the tracks he found were caused by
electrolysis. He considers that one possible explanation. Kowalski is quite
careful. He is looking at clusters. Oriani reported some clusters, but
Wow. Please forgive me if you haven't seen Dr. Edmund Storms video
interview, but that was one the most convincing theoretical arguments for
as type of fracto-fusion cold fusion event I've seen. It makes perfect
sense. I've studied enough electron-micrographs to know that the type of
Good metaphor, but some pioneers are shooting those arrows themselves.
Reasons unknown.
Peter
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Vortex-L
I quickly bought a copy of the November issue. The article is entitled:
Anderea Rossi s Black Box by
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