Re: [Vo]:Another attack on the constancy of the speed of light

2014-03-01 Thread John Berry
I have the following argument which responds to your points I believe. Optional:* Argument why rotating frames must experience time distortion under SR:* *Firstly we can observe that if the linear velocity of the rim of a rotating disk would have the observer on that disk see a light clock in a

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Hello Jones: There is an interesting CNT patent mentioned on ECat World. Carbon Nanotube Energy? New Patent Filed by Seldon Technologies Posted on February 28, 2014 by adminhttp://www.e-catworld.com/author/admin/* 30

Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find

2014-03-01 Thread fznidarsic
That's a nice cover. How did you make it? Frank -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find

RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Frank roarty
Jones, Yes, I agree.. the paper from Cornell re catalytic action only occurring at openings and defects in nano tubes would also lend support to your suspicion that he may be legit. He is in the correct industry and may have discovered a way to increase the defects thru self assembly that would

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Kevin, Yes the is the same inventor I posted about yesterday- Christopher Cooper. Everyone interesting in this facet of LENR should look at the patent drawings and the simplicity of the claims. This should be a breeze to replicate - if there is anything to it.

RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Fran, This seems like a simple experiment to replicate, based on the patent disclosure. Go for it! Add magnets and a nearly coherent light source (sodium vapor bulb) and you are almost there. Instead of pure heavy water - 50/50 cost only a small fraction as much, and since it will probably

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
I am sorry, Terry, but some of you're assumptions are incorrect. There is no way to 'fork' a wallet. If you have a private key to a bitcoin address, then the only way to 'fork' that address is to copy it and give it to someone else. Not even the public key to a bitcoin address actually goes on

[Vo]:You've been goxed

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Neologism of the day: goxed It's kinda like madoffed in the large dollar amount, but a bit more sophisticated than the Ponzi con. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Madoffed IOW - when one is goxed, it's a bit like being scammed by an AI, at higher level of sophistication than the

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though applications can be altered and augmented (but one loses priority). Has anyone you know mentioned SPP in a

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Fran and Jones-- Maybe they make a thin substrate ( that H diffuses through, gouge out a line with a laser beam or electron beam, lay in the nanotubes and then make layers of the nanotube filled substrate film, sandwich these between good heat conductors with high magnetic susceptibility and

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though applications can be altered and augmented (but one loses priority).

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
You can fork the wallet if you have total control over the generation of the wallet such as the exchanges did. You then hide the cloned wallet behind a firewall in which you control the gate. I think we will find that MtGox work involved insiders or at least those IT folks who ran their servers.

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Thanks. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Ken Deboer
RE C. Cooper Hi, Found out a little bit about Chris Cooper. He was actually the founder of Seldon Technologies, which is based on his work with CNT's. He was trained in nuclear physics and may have a Ph., D. in it. He ( and maybe his father? William Cooper) have fairly recently written over a

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
Here is Forbes' explanation: http://www.forbes.com/sites/investopedia/2014/02/28/bitcoin-mass-hysteria-the-disaster-that-brought-down-mt-gox/ The thief changed the transaction id and placed it ahead of MtGox's transaction and the thief then claimed the transaction never occurred according to

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Ken-- Is Chris's grandfather Leon Cooper? The following excerpt is from Wikipedia regarding Cooper Pairs. n condensed matter physics, a Cooper pair or BCS pair is two electrons (or other fermions) that are bound together at low temperatures in a certain manner first described in 1956

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Terry-- Sounds like a good idea for the thief--steal the bitcoins, destroy them and increase the worth of the ones you have in another exchange. The ones that remain may be worth a lot more, or maybe nothing. It will be interesting to see what happens to bitcoin mining activity. Bob -

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Forbes article concludes: *The Bottom Line* Mt. Gox is an exchange created in the early days of Bitcoin that is run by inexperienced management. Its likely insolvency and seemingly imminent demise is something that has been long expected by many in the community, and while it is quite a

[Vo]:Big step for next-generation fuel cells and electrolyzers

2014-03-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Big step for next-generation fuel cells and electrolyzers Date: February 27, 2014 Source: DOE/Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Summary: Researchers have discovered a highly promising new class of nanocatalysts for fuel cells and water-alkali electrolyzers that are an order of magnitude

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Brown's 2007 item you refer to below is close to my first impression of what was happening back in 1989 in the P-F experiment. An excerpt from Brown's paper is included below: Enhanced low energy fusion rate in palladium (Pd) due to vibrational deuteron dipole-dipole interactions

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
On 03/01/2014 02:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is the largest bank robbery in history. Countless people must have lost fortunes, perhaps their life savings. These people expect they can move past this event? That's crazy. Bank regulators and police investigators in Japan, the U.S. and all

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, I think you nailed it. However, I should like to add that the way our government handles our dollars (or Euros or . . ) gives incentive for the Bitcoin type ventures. Examples are obvious but bail outs of too large to fail, inflation not counting food, etc. etc. Just like the French

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread James Bowery
If an attempt is made to regulate cryptocurrencies themselves (ie: the proof of work type transmission/public ledger systems upon which all cryptocurrencies are based) in addition to the financial services atop them, it will simply drive more of the economy underground. The main problem with the

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Wouldn't that lend itself to corroborating Ed Storms's theories about cracks the NAE? On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Frank roarty fr...@roarty.biz wrote: Jones, Yes, I agree.. the paper from Cornell re catalytic action only occurring at openings and defects in nano tubes

RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
It's unlikely that many observers have doubted the basic hypothesis of geometrically active zones. There is much agreement on that. The practical problem is that without nanotubes, optimum geometry is very hard to engineer in a stable and consistent form over time. Metals are ductile and nano

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
Mark Karpeles interviewed in a chat, using the handle MagicalTux: [12:01] MagicalTux ... any BTC I own personally were on MtGox [12:02] JonWickedFire How much did you lose yourself? [12:04] MagicalTux Well, technically speaking it's not lost just yet, just temporarily unavailable

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
Mark Karpeles interviewed in a chat, using the handle MagicalTux: [12:01] MagicalTux ... any BTC I own personally were on MtGox [12:02] JonWickedFire How much did you lose yourself? [12:04] MagicalTux Well, technically speaking it's not lost just yet, just temporarily unavailable

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Nice thought Kevin. Chris and I collaborated to see if CNT were nuclear active. They were not, at least when using our methods. I suspect the conditions in the tube are not correct to form the Hydroton. As is typical, the situation in the chemical structure is more complex than expected. No

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: What I expect to happen next is a new cryptocurrency protocol will be put in place that distributes the network effect along with the underlying cryptocurrency protocol. So not only will be it be God-knows-what algorithm, it will be stored God-only-knows

RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms Nice thought Kevin. Chris and I collaborated to see if CNT were nuclear active. They were not, at least when using our methods. I suspect the conditions in the tube are not correct to form the Hydroton. Well, it is good to know that you and Chris collaborated, but

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones and Fran-- Brown in the paper cited does NOT include the effect of magnetic fields. This omission would seem to be relative to one of his conclusions which follows from the paper: The intrinsic complexity of this exact method and the inapplicablity of a per- turbative approach have so

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
Just to be clear... On 03/01/2014 04:19 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com mailto:jabow...@gmail.com wrote: What I expect to happen next is a new cryptocurrency protocol will be put in place that distributes the network effect along with the underlying

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: What I expect to happen next is a new cryptocurrency protocol will be put in place that distributes the network effect along with the underlying cryptocurrency protocol. So not

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Refeerences used in Brown's 2007 paper are as follows: [1] G. Kurizki, A. Kofman, V.Yudson, Phys. Rev. A53 R35-R38 (1996). [2] J.Brown, arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0608292 [3] H.Krimmel, L. Schimmele, C. Els¨asser, M. F¨ahnle, J.Phys. Condens. Matt. 6 7679-7704 (1994). [4]

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Axil Axil
As I have posted repeatedly, the key to developing an active and very strong reaction is to provide a wide range of micro/nanoparticle sizes. This requirement comes from nanoplasmonic doctrine. A single sized particle does not work. For example, in the open source high school reactor (cop = 4)

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Bitcoin is trusted for the same reason that Salk's vaccine is trusted -- because it presents a solution to a problem. It's the open source solution that's trusted; not the man. Ummm . . . You do realize it failed catastrophically? There are 12.5

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: It does seem to be more idiotic than most Ponzi schemes. It has set a new record for bank robbery, as I said. It combines the greater fool theory with amateur, do-it-yourself banking and cybersecurity, and the most

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- We may have to wait for Ed's book. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 1:20 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper From: Edmund Storms Nice thought Kevin. Chris and I collaborated to

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I should have said: What other banking system ASSETS ARE known to be 1/13 controlled by criminals? It is like Las Vegas in the 1970s, or Atlantic City during the Prohibition. The criminals are not officially in control, although in the case of Mt. Gox they sure were. I would not bet that an

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
On 03/01/2014 04:52 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Bitcoin is trusted for the same reason that Salk's vaccine is trusted -- because it presents a solution to a problem. It's the open source solution that's trusted; not

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
BTW - Julian Brown, aka JS Brown, aka J Brown is a top Oxford physicist, who was very interested in LENR before going over the European Patent Office (EPO). All of papers on arXiv are worth rereading. Unlike the USPTO - patents mentioning LENR are allowed in Europe, probably due to Brown's

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Ed-- Regarding your comment copied from below--No amount of discussion about magnetic fields, hidden electrons, particle spin, etc is useful unless it can show exactly what needs to be done to cause the reaction to occur in the first place. --I agree. However, you seem to always take on a

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Borders are opening up as people are now able to trade with each other without the expensive exchange rate tax, which every merchant in every third-world country experiences when he tries to compete with countries which do not want his government's

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt any exchanges were involved in Silk Road assets. The advantage of VCs is that you can make transactions between individuals without any bank or exchange involved. Silk Road held their assets in their own

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Too bad we do not have a similar presence in the US Patent Office. We may have been the leaders in LENR. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- Who makes the 1% or more mark up on foreign currency exchanges anyway? Why is it not an exchange based on the current international rate with no markup for the common trader? It seems there may be a monopoly in that currency exchange business. Bob Cook - Original Message -

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Bitcoin is to the telephone as the burner throw-away cell phones are to regular cell phones: an ideal way to conduct criminal activities. The US government didn't need Bitcoin to turn its population into a href=

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes Bob, LENR is real, it occurs in real materials, and it is caused by a real mechanism controlled by real parameters. It is exactly like hot fusion in this regard. Unlike hot fusion, a new mechanism is operating that is not like what physics has accepted. Rather than suggesting any idea that

[Vo]:Kiev and Cold Fusion

2014-03-01 Thread James Bowery
So the reading of the situation from my diplomatic contact is that Putin will take Crimea and stop, with one exception: There will be a natural gas shortage in Kiev this fall. Ukrainians are known for technical improvisation. Their techies are known for flouting international regimes regarding

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Craig
On 03/01/2014 05:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Borders are opening up as people are now able to trade with each other without the expensive exchange rate tax, which every merchant in every third-world country

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Edmund Storms
I can not go into detail Jones. I can say we subjected various sources of CNT to D2 at various temperatures and pressures and looked for heat and radiation. Unfortunately, LENR is so unreliable, no negative study can be considered the last word. We will not know what is possible or impossible

Re: [Vo]:Kiev and Cold Fusion

2014-03-01 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Yes, James. If it is just the certification process that stands between LENR at market or not, then Kiev is a good idea but for certain many places in China, india, South America. . . .are contenders. IP is just most other agreements worth about as much as the paper it is written on if there

Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find -Radar story

2014-03-01 Thread David L Babcock
I worked on Navy electronic contracts and had several opportunities to watch huge pulsed RF energies sprayed out of big waveguides onto our equipment, testing for radiation susceptibility, out on a rooftop. Huge because I have no clear memory of how much, but it was certainly more that a MW

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Ed-- I would identify a mechanism for overcoming the classical Coulomb barrier you refer to: See JS Browns idea as copied from his paper written in October 2006--its instructive as to possible cause of LENR in the Pd-D system. arXiv:cond-mat/0610403v1 [cond-mat.mtrl-sci] 15 Oct 2006 The

Re: [Vo]:Kiev and Cold Fusion

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
James and others-- The rumor has it that Industrial Heat, Rossi's underwriter, is negotiating with a Chinese Co to produce his reactors. It may or may not be true. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Lennart Thornros To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Ed-- I am not sure how you show that the 2nd and 3rd laws are met. It is not easy to calculate entropy and show how it increases. It would appear that the microstates possible decrease with the reaction since the He has a lower energy, However the rest of the system may have gained

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Silk Road may have had their assets in their own wallet. How the FBI took down the proprietor of Silk Road (they got lucky): http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/how-the-feds-took-down-the-dread-pirate-roberts/

Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find -Radar story

2014-03-01 Thread ChemE Stewart
If you want to see what I think a couple years of 3-5 megawatts of 24/7 pulsed Doppler radiation from 7 radars is doing to biology, click on the link http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/2-8-14-indian-river-lagoon-florida1.png http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/31/the-killing-fields/

[Vo]:NASA Langley Presentation on LENR Aircraft Study

2014-03-01 Thread James Bowery
https://connect.arc.nasa.gov/p1zygzm2h3i/?launcher=falsefcsContent=truepbMode=normal

RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms SPP may be present and important to some phenomenon, but they are very unlikely to have a role in initiating a nuclear reaction. Whatever causes LENR must be able to overcome a significant Coulomb barrier and at the same time dissipate MeV of

Re: [Vo]:NASA Langley Presentation on LENR Aircraft Study

2014-03-01 Thread James Bowery
There is a similar initiative in Lockheed/Martin. Please vote up the submission of this story at slashdot: http://slashdot.org/submission/3377235/nasa-langley-study-on-cold-fusions-potential-in-aviation On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:59 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Ken Deboer Also they form Dirac cones which I gather, although I know nothing about them myself, are interesting. cheers, ken Yes Dirac cone(s) are interesting wrt LENR since they are essentially the representation of vortices with focal points which can influence fusion. In

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Axil Axil
Ed: Rather than suggesting any idea that comes to mind, the effort to identify this mechanism must focus on what is actually observed. Axil: As revealed by DGT, where does the 1.6 tesla magnetic field at 20 centimeters from the nickel powder come from? This field increases in strength as each of