Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

Robin, I agree that the field strength originating from the central tiny charge would be the same as without the presence of the external ring once the alpha breaches that ring. The main idea is that the alpha would only require an incoming amount of energy associated with passage from that

[Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

What is being discussed seems to reflect what might happen in a small system with a new particle being introduced to that system with significant kinetic energy. What happens in a coherent system (with many particles with their mass, charge and spin) that hosts the introduction of a new

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Axil, where did you see a description of the tiger? I do not recall any reference to the use of one module to drive the other 15. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2015 10:40 pm Subject: Re:

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

OK Jed, No, I do not think the government does anything for progress. The problem is that we give them all the resources. The result is that we fail to make changes at a pace we otherwise could. I am the first to agree that many people in the government are good and provide a service well within

[Vo]:[OT]: Toward a More Scientifically Literate Public

FYI: I think this opinion is crying out for a well written and thought out response. Are you up to the task? Not sure if replies get posted or they are just submitted to the web master: http://today.ucf.edu/toward-a-more-scientifically-literate-public/

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Jed, you should follow that link and might conclude that a further look at other sources is in order. I once assumed that global warming was an important issue until I began looking into the data that is available to the public. The reference that 97% of scientists believe that man is

Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:24 AM, David Roberson wrote: Robin, are you aware of any direct correlation between the energy emitted > by a particle and its decay rate? This is a well-established finding. Alpha decays in nature are between 4 and 9 MeV (approx.). The more

[Vo]:LENR NEWS FOR Dec2, 2015

For today, my friends http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/12/02-dec-2015-lenr-newsnot-bad-not-really.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Jed, first of all thanks for the many advices you give. I will try to get hold of a book at some point in time. I understand that what I think does not change the world. However, facts like government (or any organization cannot achieve result is true. That does not mean that organization is

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Lennart Thornros wrote: > Let us leave the dispute about organizations. > I actually started to address the topic in the headline by saying: > The debate about global warming is far from conclusive. I do not know the > answer. > You do not know the answer, but experts in

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

1. Hank Mills December 29th, 2013 at 2:34 PM Dear Andrea, The information you are sharing is facinating. While we wait for the full reports, it gives us something to think upon. 1 – If the mouse over

RE: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David: I typically enjoy your posts but I find the “Global Warming Hoax” material utterly ridiculous. It is being driven by strong nonscientific motives. Please examine your motives for embracing it. Then answer this question, “If there is even a minimal chance that WE (humanity)

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David Roberson wrote: > The reference that 97% of scientists believe that man is responsible for > 90% of the problem has been proven wildly wrong (<1% actually agree) but > keeps being stated over and over. That's nonsense. You sound like the editors at Scientific

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Jed, I can not force you to look into the data yourself. That is your decision. You sound much like the established Physics community in assuming that LENR is not real because most physicists believe that. Have you actually taken the time to look at how that 97% figure was determined? If

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

The YouTube reference is dead on! Jed, you can research the global warming discussion and become more informed. No one should assume that the guys making the global climate computer models are great experts, which is what is happening at the world's peril. If you take the time to look into

Re: [Vo]:[OT]: Toward a More Scientifically Literate Public

I wrote this comment to the piece but I see it disappeared... Pity you used such a bad example for pathological science.LENR aka cold fusion is alive and well, so you are completely wrong about that. Industrial Heat LLC has built a commercial 1 MW LENR thermal plant that according to

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Roland Bob • 17 hours ago

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Jed, Let us leave the dispute about organizations. I actually started to address the topic in the headline by saying: The debate about global warming is far from conclusive. I do not know the answer. I do know that it is not a question we can control (i.e. I doubt anyone created the ice- age(s)).

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Rossi has provided a comprehensive explanation of the Cat and Mouse reactor clustering method in bits and pieces throughout his Q blog. One of them explains how the shutdown of power from the Mouse causes the Cat to be stimulated. I now take this to mean that when Rossi shuts off a magnetic

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David Roberson wrote: Jed, I can not force you to look into the data yourself. That is your > decision. > I have looked at the paper you referenced. I do not understand it well enough to comment. I never offer an opinion on a scientific paper I cannot understand in depth.

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Lennart Thornros wrote: > No, I do not think the government does anything for progress. > What you think is irrelevant. Read any history of technology and you will see that you are wrong. Your opinions cannot change facts or rewrite history books. I have given you many

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

I have also seen the reference to the 16 reactors. The question is whether or not 1 is the driver with 15 following devices. Where did you see anything about a special type of driver device among the other 15? Did Rossi state this or is it entirely your assumption? Dave -Original

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Lennart Thornros wrote: > You claim researchers outside the government have replicated. I asked for > their names. You have not given a single one. > ​ Can be found here;​ has been given in general form and supported with a > couple of examples. > No, you have not listed

RE: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 3:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments As for the Ph.D’s gained studying climate and all their expertise and experience, it means about as to public

RE: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David: Countries like the US are already throttling their economies even as the cost of energy has been cut in half.Energy will not be a limiter under the system currently in place regardless of carbon limits. Hence, you are imaging a PERIL that doesn’t exist because you don’t

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Hank Mills December 29th, 2013 at 2:34 PM Dear Andrea, The information you are sharing is facinating. While we wait for the full reports, it gives us something to think upon. 1 – If the mouse over stimulates the cat so it runs around in circles continually, not going back to sleep, does the cat

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David Roberson wrote: > Jed, you can research the global warming discussion and become more > informed. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. > No one should assume that the guys making the global climate computer > models are great experts, which is what is

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

That was 2 years ago before the patent was granted. Do you see anything within the patent that fits into this form? Rossi is required to supply information that is adequate to construct one of his systems if his patent is to have value. It is quite clear that his patented device has nothing

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Dave-- The number 16 may come from the Artists rendition of a reactor. I could find no specific Rossi statement regarding the picture included in the E-Cat World item identified by Axil as the basis for his comment. Axil’s interpretations of what he reads and sees in various items can make

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Rossi has said that he has 64 more patents to submit. The patent that he how has is relevant to the Hot Cat which is not capable of SSM. The 1 MW E-Cat is where SSM applies, It has yet to be patented in whole or in part. Rossi has said that the E-Cat X which is the updated Hot Cat might be

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Chris Zell wrote: > As for the Ph.D’s gained studying climate and all their expertise and > experience, it means about as to public interest as the history of > collecting porcelain Hummel figures..EXCEPT for their ability to make > unambiguous, practical, truthful

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

The peril is that countries such as the USA will throttle their economies by making energy too expensive. The end result is that millions will find their standard of living much reduced for a cause that is beyond mankind's control. The wealthy people of the world will not suffer too

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

I wrote: > Especially when you take into account the 20,000 people year who die from > coal smoke . . . > 20,000 people in the U.S. that is. In China roughly 1.5 million people die per year from coal smoke. The cost of all these deaths is not included in the total cost of energy because

RE: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David: You said: “No one should assume that the guys making the global climate computer models are great experts, which is what is happening at the world's peril.” What PERIL? Ransom From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 2:58 PM

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David Roberson wrote: The peril is that countries such as the USA will throttle their economies > by making energy too expensive. That's hardly likely! It is getting cheaper by the day. The cost of wind and solar energy will soon be less than fossil fuel. Especially when

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Ransom, Perhaps you are right that it is not important to become too upset about the global warming issue. It is certainly beyond my control and even though I detect plenty of dishonest behavior on behalf of the scientists that are being used as pawns by political operatives, it is best to

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Axil, Do you see any reference in this group of postings to a single mouse driving 15 cats? I looked at it briefly and can not find it. There is plenty of speculation on the part of Hank and others but I do not see where Rossi confirms a configuration like we are discussing. Much of this

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David Roberson wrote: Jed, maybe I feel differently about some issues that others. I honestly, > strongly dislike the appearance of the large wind turbines . . . I don't care for the looks of them either. A British politician called them "toilet scrub brushes in the sky."

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

That is what the Rossi says I have found that Rossi doen not make misstatements when it comes to egineering details. When his product are finally revailed, this pre release statements are consistent with the product. Also, synthsys of all available experimental data lends insight to what Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Why are Rossi's intentions important, in the context of validating his CMNS claims? What the world is waiting for is a protocol which allows reputable scientists to replicate his results, and to obtain nearly identical (+/- 30%) results. That would be a tremendous contribution, much more

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

I assume that your concepts include the various particles such as the polyneutron, Erzion, etc. but Rossi has never mentioned any of these. They may be involved in the LENR process, but I suspect that Rossi has never used those terms within his postings. I too have found that he is careful to

Re: [Vo]:[OT]: Toward a More Scientifically Literate Public

Regarding: Toward a More Scientifically Literate Public http://today.ucf.edu/toward-a-more-scientifically-literate-public/ Michael Bass, What would happen if the cause of Cold fusion was based on Photonics, your specialty? lf the experts that the public trusts whose scientific specialties

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

That is what the Rossi says! Unfortunately, we do not have any of the other patents to review at this time to determine how his new device is structured. Until that happens it is wise for us to make it clear that we are speculating on a particular issue so that everyone understands that that

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Rossi's patents are misleading. For example he states in his patent that his fuel must be preprocessed involving high heat but he does not say how he preprocesses that fuel. IMHO, this lack of preprocessing detail in replication attemps produces failure to replicate. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:43

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Why are Rossi's patents and intentions important, in the context of validating his CMNS claims? What the world is waiting for is a protocol which allows reputable scientists to replicate his results, and to obtain similar (+/- 30%) results. That would be a tremendous contribution, much more

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM, David Roberson wrote: > I assume that your concepts include the various particles such as the > polyneutron, Erzion, etc. but Rossi has never mentioned any of these. They > may be involved in the LENR process, but I suspect that Rossi has

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

1) Thank you for the links to your articles, Axil. I will read them tomorrow. 2) Are you saying that Lugano scientists followed Rossi's published protocol, and that their quantitative results were approximately the same as his? My recollection is that this did not happen. Otherwise, ;-). 3)

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Rossi supported two thrid party tests of his units as follows: http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/105322688-Penon4-1.pdf HIGH TEMPERATURE E-CAT MODULE Test of July 16th, 2012 E-Cat Certification: Fabio Penon , M.Eng. (Nuclear Engineer, Product Certification Specialist) E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Ransom, Thanks for the positive things you have stated about my previous postings. I realize that this particular issue is very polarized and hesitated to become involved in the discussion, but one should not stand by and let bad science be used without pointing it out. I once accepted the

RE: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Coincidentally – speaking of the real cost of coal… http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/12/01/chinas-smog-closes-schools-and-highways/76611310/ From: Jed Rothwell Especially when you take into account the 20,000 people year who die from coal smoke . . . 20,000 people

RE: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

David: Just to clarify my point, I have no idea, personally, if man is a main contributor to issues regarding climate change or an insignificant contributor. My point is simply that I would rather error on the side of caution since doing so is harmless. So to me, man MAY be

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Obviously the effects of human carbon pollution of our atmosphere is a very contentious topic. There are plenty of reasons to make a concerted effort to reduce carbon contribution in our atmosphere, not just warming - real or otherwise. The normal CO2 level in the 200-300 ppm level is compatible

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Have you actually taken the time to look at how that 97% figure was determined? If you did, you would have seen that it was proven false and that the university for which the scientist worked could not be forced to release the procedure used to reach that figure. A hacker finally obtained

Re: [Vo]:Story on climate crisis would need some comments

Jed, maybe I feel differently about some issues that others. I honestly, strongly dislike the appearance of the large wind turbines and also find the solar plants to be using far too much land and currently as unattractive as the wind farms. Perhaps one day it will be possible to use much of

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

But Axil, Rossi's patent does not show any such cat and mouse structure. He has answered a question of mine about the structure of the new CAT by telling me that the patent is where to look. I suspect that you are attempting to make the design fall into a pattern that you believe is required

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

1. Joseph November 5th, 2015 at 12:20 PM Dr Andrea Rossi, Congratulations for US Patent and for the 146 patents pending and in the making. The story of your life can explain why you are able to do this and

Re: [Vo]:Steorn: Orbo 28th October 2015 Transcript from Webinar

Hey Esa, I see that you, like me, are interested in the Cube. I am planning on buying one later in the day if possible. My christmass present for myself. Shall we keep in touch and exchange thoughts and experiences? Marcus Winckers Utrecht Netherlands. Op 29 okt. 2015 07:38 schreef "Esa

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

Rossi has revealed his Hot Cat technology in the Lugano test. Using this report, multiple experimenters SAY that they have replicated the Hot Cat. The patent submitted by the Industrial Heat is filed with quotes pulled directly from the Lugano report. I have drawn important insights from the

Re: [Vo]:LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

On Dec 2, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Ludwik Kowalski wrote: > Why are Rossi's patents and intentions important, in the context of > validating his CMNS claims? What the world is waiting for is a protocol which > allows reputable scientists to replicate at least one of his setups, and to > obtain